Al Qaeda In Iraq Far Stronger Than Bush Administration Admitting

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ROBERT BURNS | March 15, 2008 03:41 AM EST | AP

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Iraqi soldier stand guard after a mini bus exploded in central district of Karrada in Baghdad, Iraq, in this April 15, 2007 file photo. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File )

WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five years ago to develop into a major killer.

The militants are weakened, battered, perhaps even desperate, by most U.S. accounts. But far from being "routed," as Defense Secretary Robert Gates claimed last month, they're still there, still deadly active and likely to remain far into the future, military and other officials told The Associated Press.

Commanders and the other officials commented in a series of interviews and assessments discussing persistent violence in Iraq and intelligence judgments there and in the U.S.

Putting the squeeze on al-Qaida in Iraq was a primary objective of the revised U.S. military strategy that Gen. David Petraeus inherited when he became the top commander in Baghdad 13 months ago. The goal _ largely achieved _ was to minimize the group's ability to inflame sectarian violence, which at the time was so intense that some characterized Iraq as trapped in a civil war.

However, the militants are proving they can survive even the most suffocating U.S. military pressure.

"They are not to be underestimated. That's one thing I've seen over and over," said Col. John Charlton, commander of the Army's 1st Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division. His unit has fought al-Qaida for the past 14 months in a portion of Anbar province that includes the provincial capital of Ramadi.

"I'm always very amazed at their ability to adapt and find new vulnerabilities," Charlton said in a telephone interview this week from his headquarters outside of Ramadi. "They are very good at that," even though they have largely lost the support of local citizens.

The U.S. and Iraqi government intent is to chip away at al-Qaida until it is reduced to "almost a nonentity," Army Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno said March 4 shortly after finishing his tour as the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq. "Unfortunately with these terrorist organizations, they will always be there at some level."

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Demonstrating anew their remarkable staying power, the militants are thought to be behind attacks in recent days in Baghdad and beyond, including bombings in the capital March 7 that killed at least 68 people.

Now that U.S. troop reinforcements are beginning to go home, Petraeus and the Bush administration will be watching closely to see if American-trained Iraqi forces can keep up the pressure on al-Qaida.

Al-Qaida in Iraq, which did not exist as a coherent group before U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, probably now numbers no more than 6,000, according to U.S. intelligence estimates. It may have been closer to 10,000-strong before the severe pummeling it took last year, when it lost its main bases of Sunni Arab support. It controls no cities but is still active in pockets through much of central and northern Iraq.

Charlton, whose unit is leaving Iraq shortly and will not be replaced by another U.S. brigade in Anbar, said he is confident of the Iraqis' determination not to allow al-Qaida back into their communities.

But resilience has been a hallmark of al-Qaida in Iraq, which emerged only after its leader, the Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, pledged his allegiance to Osama bin Laden, leader of the global al-Qaida network, in October 2004. It has survived innumerable reverses in recent years, including al-Zarqawi's death in a June 2006 U.S. airstrike

The successor to al-Zarqawi is Abu Ayub al-Masri, an Egyptian who keeps a lower public profile.

The group's other leadership figures also are foreigners from Arab nations including Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Yemen, Syria, Morocco and Libya, according to two defense officials who discussed details of the organization on condition of anonymity. The rank-and-file membership is largely Iraqi.

Hardly a day goes by that the U.S. military command in Baghdad doesn't announce the capture or killing of an al-Qaida figure. On Thursday, for example, the military said troops detained four suspected terrorists northwest of Samarra while targeting an alleged foreign terrorist facilitator and associates of a media cell leader involved in al-Qaida's network in Anbar province.

Brian Fishman, an al-Qaida watcher at the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy, said that although al-Qaida in Iraq lost some of its "strategic focus" after al-Zarqawi's death, it remains a threat.

"It's way too soon to count these guys out," he said.

In a report to Congress this week, the Pentagon said elements of al-Qaida in Iraq are "highly lethal" in parts of the Tigris River valley north of Baghdad and in Ninevah province in northern Iraq. And it said the group, though less effective overall, is capable of striking "across Iraq."

That doesn't seem to fit the description offered by Army Lt. Col. John A. Nagl, a battalion commander in the 1st Infantry Division, who wrote in an opinion article in The Washington Post on March 9 that al-Qaida in Iraq was "largely defeated."

Certainly the group's stated goal of establishing an Islamic fundamentalist state in Iraq has been blocked. And there is no sign that al-Qaida is anywhere near being in position to regain momentum.

Charlton, the Army commander in Ramadi, said propaganda material from local al-Qaida members or supporters has changed markedly in tone in recent months.

"Back in early 2007 and in 2006 you would typically see propaganda that was very boastful, very aggressive and very confident," Charlton said. "It would say things like, `We're coming to get the sheiks, we're going to kill them all,' that type of stuff. Lately, the propaganda is very different. It's appealing on an ideological basis to the population _ as if they realize they've lost the support of the people."

But al-Qaida isn't going away.

Marine Maj. Gen. John Kelly, the top U.S. commander in Anbar province, told reporters at the Pentagon by teleconference this week that al-Qaida in Iraq has the wherewithal, when squeezed, to shift to other places. After being pushed out of Anbar in early 2007, the militants reasserted themselves in Baghdad. After getting hammered in the capital they slipped north, first to Diyala and more recently to the northern province of Ninevah, whose capital, Mosul, is now the scene of heavy fighting.

"Our sense is they'll come back to where they know best," Kelly said, referring to Anbar.

WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five ye...
WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five ye...
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- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 260 fans permalink

Poor Junior... so misunderestimated. What he meant is that, in HIS alternate universe, al Qaeda has been "routed"..­. and 'DJ' Karl is "funny"... and the economy is "robust"..­. and Jeebus speaks to him through the bedroom wall... and he's a real president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 03/19/2008

It's all about the military-complex and oil machine.

You created a mythical War on Terror in a country that has nothing to do with it. By the time the rest of the country finds out, you are stuck in a no-win situation that guarantees constant dollar flow to our military contractors and oil companies.

Republicans leave office and a Democrat is stuck with the problem.

- If you stay, you spend trillions of dollars trying to help a country that was helping us keep Iran in check and that had not terrorist.

- If you leave, you allow Iran to be the super power in the region and it allows the genocide to take place.

The real answer is to fire the Republicans for the initial mistakes and creating the problem. Investigate all the military deals and no-bid contracts and hold Bush/Cheney and other accontable - including jail time if needed to regain respect from the International community.

Hire a Democrat that is willing to allow Iraq to stabilize and grow it's government and assure that its oil revenue goes to Iraq and not the US oil complex. Clean up all military deals and contracts and ask for NATO and UN support in Iraq to help rebuild our relationships. "Sorry for what Bush/Cheney did, please work with us to make it better."

Where is the help Iraq stabilize Democratic nominee? McCain is just Bush even if he tries to sound a little different.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 03/16/2008
- gcallaghan I'm a Fan of gcallaghan 52 fans permalink
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Republicans = Military Failure

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 03/16/2008
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No Defeat, No Surrender!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 03/16/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

Our military leaders say al-Qaida has lost the support of the people. I wonder if we have the support of the people. I doubt it. Gates came into the Bush administration as a truth teller, as a refreshing refrain from Rumsfield. Now he says things like al-Qaida is "routed." He is now a liar, as are all those who get involved with this illegal, immoral administration. Bush corrupts everyone who comes near him. All become his enablers. It is a shame that otherwise decent people fall under the spell that is Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 AM on 03/16/2008
- VPN I'm a Fan of VPN 107 fans permalink
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Al-Qaida stronger in Iraq shouldn't come as any surprise to anyone, after all, team Bu$h/Cheney has been the best recruiting tool for al-Qaida that they have ever had. OBL, probably couldn't be happier, Bu$h has made his goal of crippling the USA through a slow bleed of lives and treasure a possibility and as an added possible bonus, Bu$hCo being followed by a John "100 yr War" McCain Presidency, icing on his cake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/16/2008
- tumblewind I'm a Fan of tumblewind 2 fans permalink

Well, Bush has finally succeeded at what he started out to do. He accused Saddam Hussein of masterminding 9/11 and harboring terrorist's. Wallah! Now they have terrorist's where there were none before. Thanks a whole lot Georgie you are a real gem! I read this article with a whole lot of skepticism. It seems like our government always calls them Al Qaeda or terrorist's regardless of who they are. It's sad that no one is being kept informed about the progress that may or may not being made. We have no clue what to believe in the news. All we have is a Bush Robot appearing before Congress to tell us how much progress they have made???????? So the mess goes on!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 03/16/2008

How do you get that headline out of that story?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 03/16/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

Ghost, do you even read the article or just look at the headline?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:57 AM on 03/17/2008
- JohnKemp I'm a Fan of JohnKemp 26 fans permalink

Something wrong with this headline.

Obama said there was no al qaeda in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 AM on 03/16/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

Politicians avoid answering hypothetical questions for just this reason: because the premise will be twisted and taken out of context, and even posited as the politicain's own position, as John Kemp has demonstrated with this comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/16/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

John, you are being very arrogant and misleading. Don't you think Obama knows there are fighters who have aligned themselves with al-Qaida in Iraq. He was asked a hypothetical question suggesting that if our forces left Iraq and al-Qaida established a base there, how would we respond. He then said, I believe, we would return and take them out.

Al-Qaida was no where near Iraq until your hero, Bush, invaded. The group became active in Iraq when al-Zarqawi declared allegiance to bin Laden in October 2004, almost a year and a half after our initial invasion. Before this date, the group was fighting there under a different name.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 03/17/2008

w can't be bothered, he's busy practicing his tap dancing and singing. He has his priorities, you know. As to al Qaeda, if they're dead, they're al Qaeda. This is IraqNam.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:46 AM on 03/16/2008

Oil's up to $110 a barrel, mortgages are failing right and the left, the dollar is worth less than a Canadian..­.and I should care about al Qaeda? What can THEY do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:31 AM on 03/16/2008

Just amazing. Last week they were saying the surge all but wiped out al Qaeda and the Sunni insurgents are now on our side. Now they want to keep troop levels high, so al Qaeda is a real force in Iraq (since last week?). They just make this crap up to short circuit the only intelligent, legal, sensible action on the part of the U.S. -- safe, immediate withdrawal of all US troops and contractors. There will be no calamity of biblical proportions if we leave, as those in the region can't afford it. Certainly nothing as devastating as the Iran/Iraq war will occur. And there is no outcome in Iraq worth the trillions the war will cost (devastating our economy) either under the McCain scenario or under the Clinton or Obama scenario.

As Ahmahdinejad gets a hero's welcome when he goes to Bagdad now -- possibly propelling his allies to win elections we have been told over the past several months they were going to lose -- and al Sadr's militia is basically upholding a ceasefire, but would fight al Qaeda, the Administration, and soon the media and Democrats, will refrain from pushing for safe, immediate withdrawal in order to fight a resurgent Iraqi al Qaeda, that the surge supposedly all but destroyed while it was making Ahmahdinejad a hero in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 AM on 03/16/2008
- thirteen13 I'm a Fan of thirteen13 3 fans permalink

I bet Iran and a US free Iraq could eject al Qaeda. Remember we fight al Qaeda in Iraq so we don't have to fight them on US soil. Fewer than ten thousand criminals in Iraq have the USA military hostage. At any time of their choosing, al Qaeda will exploit the mindset of the war mongers. All they have to do is make it look like Iran is at fault so Chaney-Bush can invade Iran so that there could be "al Qaeda in Iran".
The USA invation of Iraq created al "Qaeda in Iraq". The same thing will happen if we invade Iran.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:02 AM on 03/16/2008
- Rule Of Law I'm a Fan of Rule Of Law 146 fans permalink

OH fuck this! America leaves Iraq. Iraqis slaughter Al Qaeda. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 03/16/2008
- Novista I'm a Fan of Novista 8 fans permalink

Hmmm, 2003 - al Qaeda in Iraq, nil. Five years on, disregarding every casualty must be AQI, we have a growth industry that Wall St would be proud of. What a business model!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 03/16/2008
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