Al Qaeda In Iraq Far Stronger Than Bush Administration Admitting

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ROBERT BURNS | March 15, 2008 03:41 AM EST | AP

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Iraqi soldier stand guard after a mini bus exploded in central district of Karrada in Baghdad, Iraq, in this April 15, 2007 file photo. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File )

WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five years ago to develop into a major killer.

The militants are weakened, battered, perhaps even desperate, by most U.S. accounts. But far from being "routed," as Defense Secretary Robert Gates claimed last month, they're still there, still deadly active and likely to remain far into the future, military and other officials told The Associated Press.

Commanders and the other officials commented in a series of interviews and assessments discussing persistent violence in Iraq and intelligence judgments there and in the U.S.

Putting the squeeze on al-Qaida in Iraq was a primary objective of the revised U.S. military strategy that Gen. David Petraeus inherited when he became the top commander in Baghdad 13 months ago. The goal _ largely achieved _ was to minimize the group's ability to inflame sectarian violence, which at the time was so intense that some characterized Iraq as trapped in a civil war.

However, the militants are proving they can survive even the most suffocating U.S. military pressure.

"They are not to be underestimated. That's one thing I've seen over and over," said Col. John Charlton, commander of the Army's 1st Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division. His unit has fought al-Qaida for the past 14 months in a portion of Anbar province that includes the provincial capital of Ramadi.

"I'm always very amazed at their ability to adapt and find new vulnerabilities," Charlton said in a telephone interview this week from his headquarters outside of Ramadi. "They are very good at that," even though they have largely lost the support of local citizens.

The U.S. and Iraqi government intent is to chip away at al-Qaida until it is reduced to "almost a nonentity," Army Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno said March 4 shortly after finishing his tour as the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq. "Unfortunately with these terrorist organizations, they will always be there at some level."

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Demonstrating anew their remarkable staying power, the militants are thought to be behind attacks in recent days in Baghdad and beyond, including bombings in the capital March 7 that killed at least 68 people.

Now that U.S. troop reinforcements are beginning to go home, Petraeus and the Bush administration will be watching closely to see if American-trained Iraqi forces can keep up the pressure on al-Qaida.

Al-Qaida in Iraq, which did not exist as a coherent group before U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, probably now numbers no more than 6,000, according to U.S. intelligence estimates. It may have been closer to 10,000-strong before the severe pummeling it took last year, when it lost its main bases of Sunni Arab support. It controls no cities but is still active in pockets through much of central and northern Iraq.

Charlton, whose unit is leaving Iraq shortly and will not be replaced by another U.S. brigade in Anbar, said he is confident of the Iraqis' determination not to allow al-Qaida back into their communities.

But resilience has been a hallmark of al-Qaida in Iraq, which emerged only after its leader, the Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, pledged his allegiance to Osama bin Laden, leader of the global al-Qaida network, in October 2004. It has survived innumerable reverses in recent years, including al-Zarqawi's death in a June 2006 U.S. airstrike

The successor to al-Zarqawi is Abu Ayub al-Masri, an Egyptian who keeps a lower public profile.

The group's other leadership figures also are foreigners from Arab nations including Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Yemen, Syria, Morocco and Libya, according to two defense officials who discussed details of the organization on condition of anonymity. The rank-and-file membership is largely Iraqi.

Hardly a day goes by that the U.S. military command in Baghdad doesn't announce the capture or killing of an al-Qaida figure. On Thursday, for example, the military said troops detained four suspected terrorists northwest of Samarra while targeting an alleged foreign terrorist facilitator and associates of a media cell leader involved in al-Qaida's network in Anbar province.

Brian Fishman, an al-Qaida watcher at the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy, said that although al-Qaida in Iraq lost some of its "strategic focus" after al-Zarqawi's death, it remains a threat.

"It's way too soon to count these guys out," he said.

In a report to Congress this week, the Pentagon said elements of al-Qaida in Iraq are "highly lethal" in parts of the Tigris River valley north of Baghdad and in Ninevah province in northern Iraq. And it said the group, though less effective overall, is capable of striking "across Iraq."

That doesn't seem to fit the description offered by Army Lt. Col. John A. Nagl, a battalion commander in the 1st Infantry Division, who wrote in an opinion article in The Washington Post on March 9 that al-Qaida in Iraq was "largely defeated."

Certainly the group's stated goal of establishing an Islamic fundamentalist state in Iraq has been blocked. And there is no sign that al-Qaida is anywhere near being in position to regain momentum.

Charlton, the Army commander in Ramadi, said propaganda material from local al-Qaida members or supporters has changed markedly in tone in recent months.

"Back in early 2007 and in 2006 you would typically see propaganda that was very boastful, very aggressive and very confident," Charlton said. "It would say things like, `We're coming to get the sheiks, we're going to kill them all,' that type of stuff. Lately, the propaganda is very different. It's appealing on an ideological basis to the population _ as if they realize they've lost the support of the people."

But al-Qaida isn't going away.

Marine Maj. Gen. John Kelly, the top U.S. commander in Anbar province, told reporters at the Pentagon by teleconference this week that al-Qaida in Iraq has the wherewithal, when squeezed, to shift to other places. After being pushed out of Anbar in early 2007, the militants reasserted themselves in Baghdad. After getting hammered in the capital they slipped north, first to Diyala and more recently to the northern province of Ninevah, whose capital, Mosul, is now the scene of heavy fighting.

"Our sense is they'll come back to where they know best," Kelly said, referring to Anbar.

WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five ye...
WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five ye...
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- PADDYWHACK I'm a Fan of PADDYWHACK 6 fans permalink

The problem with all these groups is that there is no guarantee that if you suppress or make a deal with one the others are free to continue hostilities.We can keep the lid on with a huge eternal occupation force.The Middle East will bleed us dry in less than the century McBomb estimates it will take.We look like the French in Indochina,another lesson we failed to learn.Come to think of it we heard the same pronouncements from there before we left.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 03/15/2008
- peterg76 I'm a Fan of peterg76 30 fans permalink
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Now, is "Al Qaeda in Iraq" the terrorist group, a label for patriotic Iraqis attempting to expel the occupation army, or is it Al Qaeda in Iraq the myth?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 03/15/2008
- Fathoms I'm a Fan of Fathoms 4 fans permalink

Originally written to my elected federal representatives 20070719, It's still relevant: "Regarding the Undressed Emperor's Latest Machinations" I've been analyzing the latest act in a pathetic performance by a desperate Duhbya. What an incompetent liar. He'll say anything he thinks will buy him more time. Clearly he's angling for another, "Pearl Harbor Event." If you aren't careful he's going to get it. Here's why: Fact: Al Qaeda means, "The Base," in Arabic. Fact: "The Base," was constructed by the CIA who armed and trained Osama bin Laden and his cohort. Fact: The violent overthrow of the duly elected Iraqi government in 1958 was orchestrated to put the Baathists in power as a CIA client entity. Fact: We armed and educated Saddam Hussein and outfitted him with a coercive intelligence agency. Fact: We pulled the same stunt in Iran as we pulled in Iraq. Fact: We constructed permanent military bases in Saudi Arabia. Fact: We're constructing permanent military bases in Iraq. Fact: All this is causal in the fomentation the Islamic Fundamentalist Revolution. Fact: We're losing our grip on Pakistan and Musharraf isn't long for leadership there. The ISI is going into ascent, imagine their finger on the Islamic nuclear trigger. Fact: We're losing our grip on Afghanistan. Welcome back the Taliban. Fact: The Neo-Cons stated the following for the record regarding their agenda: "Dov Zakheim, called for a 'Pearl Harbor' type of incident being necessary to foster the frame of mind needed for the American public to support a war in the Middle East that would politically and culturally reshape the region." Fact: Bush's imperialist adventure in Iraq opened the floodgates and invited Al Qaeda into the fray in Iraq where they had had a zero-footprint previously. Fact: The philosophy known as, "The enemy of my enemy is my friend," will prevent the Iraqis from dispatching the Al Qaeda problem in their country until the, "Infidel Occupiers," have left their territory. Fact: The longer we delay our departure from Iraq the more organized and entrenched Al Qaeda will become in Iraq. Fact: The more entrenched and organized Al Qaeda becomes the more likely they will execute their next attack on the continental United States. Fact: The Neo-Cons backs are presently against the wall. Fact: The Neo-Cons would welcome another, "Pearl Harbor," event as it would allow them to redirect the American public back down the path of Jingoism to another ill considered invasion. Fact: The administration has their Iran attack plans fully formulated and are itching to put their fingers on the trigger and launch that offensive. Fact: The administration is rapidly formulating a plan to intercede in Pakistan. Fact: The United States military is already dangerously overextended and spent, most poorly. Fact: We have foreign mercenaries; with boots on the ground in America, acting without legal constraint on behalf of the Department of Defense. Fact: If you don't do something about all this soon it will once again be too late and you will have failed through inaction just as you have failed through inaction very consistently since the 2000 election. Fact: When the Neo-Cons get their, "Pearl Harbor," event, they are going to bury you along with what little is left of the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. Fact: We didn't win the Cold War by scaring or outspending the Soviets. We won the Cold War by being the kind of a country our opponent's cadre decided they would prefer to live in. Fact: We aren't that country anymore! Do me a favor; Wake Up and face your only logical choice: Be Statesmen; Do It Right; DO IT NOW! Put the Neo-Con animal to sleep. I DO MEAN euthanize it immediately. It's cancerous; it's traitorous; it's Un-American. To Do List: -Get us OUT of Iraq NOW! -Impeach Cheney. -Impeach Duhbya. -Repeal the Patriot Act. -Staunch the bleeding from our free-trade wounds; Free Trade is poorly disguised corporate fascism, a manifestation of the race to the bottom and unworthy of America. -Disassemble Homeland Security and redistribute the various agencies that were uprooted to comprise it back to their respective parent entities -Roll back the FCC's rulings for the past 30-years and legislate replacement regulations that disallow concentration of ownership while breaking up the media monopolies. -Regulate how much gross profit a News organization may make in a year. Two point five percent is probably about right. -Require that television act in the Public Interest; provide News a minimum of Two hours per day. -Provide block-time free of charge to balloted candidates at election time along with equal time provisions to ensure a level playing field. -Cut off lobbying at the knees to tear 'Big Money' out of politics. -Entrench Net Neutrality; an Amendment to the Constitution is in order, as the Net Neutral Internet is the only Free Marketplace of Ideas left in this nation. -Repair the damage done to our educational system over the past 35 years so that we are once again educating generations of independent thinking problem solvers and adventurers. Note: Mankind is a dangerous phenomenon that requires drama and conflict to excel. Herein lies our primary dilemma: what to do about it? Fortunately the answer is simple! 1. Conquer Outer Space: We have to get some of our genetic material off this planet before we lose that capacity; So, Do It! 2. Conquer Renewable Energy/Global Warming: The phenomenon most likely to derail human progress is our pathetic insistence on clinging to a technology that is dangerously obsolete. Obliterate it in favor of the future. When you've completed these tasks pat yourselves on the back and take a well-deserved Two-week vacation. Then, GET BACK TO WORK! I'm not paying you to lounge around destroying our Nation through inattention to detail. There's much to be done. Now that you're statesmen I expect you to put your shoulders to the wheel and make the right decisions on behalf of the Citizens you represent. Remember: The business of America is, "Life, Liberty and the Pursuit of Happiness." Business comes in a very distant second for consideration on this scale. P.S. Britain's reallocation of the legitimate Palestinian State's territory to Israel in collusion with the United States created an open wound that must be equitably redressed before a legitimate peace can ever be reached in the Middle East.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:34 PM on 03/15/2008

Saddam Hussein, as bad as he may have been, at least provided stability for the region. Then Little George and the Big Dick went in, and look at the mess now, contrary to what they say. They are either liars or delusional. Either way, they don't deserve to be in Washington, and they don't deserve to be getting a paycheck from us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 03/15/2008
- AdamWykle I'm a Fan of AdamWykle 8 fans permalink

We need to stop this I L L E G A L O C C U P A T I O N !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:18 PM on 03/15/2008

What? I thought a-Qaida wasn't In Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/15/2008
- realpolitic I'm a Fan of realpolitic 149 fans permalink

They are, but in small numbers relative to the overall fighting there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 03/17/2008
- rroy I'm a Fan of rroy 8 fans permalink

Here we go again,the American public continues to be brainwashed with buzz words,and jingoist propaganda.

Does any member of the press or any American ask questions about our constantly being inundated with bullshit?

Here are a few:
How are people determined to be Al Quaeda?
Is there an Al Quaeda Uniform they wear?
Are there Card Carrying Al Quaeda members?
Do they carry an Al Quaeda badge?

We are expected to be filled with anger and assume the attitude,if thety're Al Quaeda and fighting us in Iraq,then this admiinistration must be right!

Why do we assume people of Iraq who are fighting our ilegal occupation,brought about by a phoney preemptive action,are,ipso facto Al Quada?

This is so remeniscent of Vietnam,when we were fed terms like.Body Count,Free Fire Zone,Charlie,
viet Cong,North Vietnamese oposed to South Vietnames,and all kinds of jingoistic bullshit when in the long run what was happening was a country was trying to get Colonial Bastards off their back.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 03/15/2008
- fantagor I'm a Fan of fantagor 18 fans permalink

For the last time, al-Qaida in Iraq isn’t the same al-Qaida that engineered 9/11, or even directly affiliated with that group. It’s a militant organization that adopted the handle al-Qaida for instant street crede.

It would be like opening up a hamburger stand and calling it McDonald’s. Does calling your hamburger stand McDonald’s make it a McDonald’s?

What if I wrote a book and put Stephen King on the cover. Did Stephen King therefore author it?

So keep in mind that when some says “al-Qaida in Iraq” they mean “militant group who ripped off a franchise name to scare Americans, and, indirectly, help George Bush scare Americans, too”.

Randy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 03/15/2008
- DumbDad I'm a Fan of DumbDad 32 fans permalink
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Friend of mine says she posted a comment a half hour ago. You guys still there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/15/2008
- nofltwlt I'm a Fan of nofltwlt 4 fans permalink

Bush brought Al Qaeda to Iraq and now he is totally helpless to deal with it.

Bush is a Bozo and we need to jettison our nation of is disastrous rule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/15/2008
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WTFWJD?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 03/15/2008
- davedave I'm a Fan of davedave 7 fans permalink

2 trillion to put al-Qaida in iraq.

and bush will call this his success.

....and mccain will agree!

d

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 03/15/2008
- dogstar7 I'm a Fan of dogstar7 4 fans permalink
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Let's make up our minds, shall we?
Is AQII "largely defeated" or are they still "highly lethal"???

Given all the lies, half-truths, propaganda and misinformation,
who exactly are we to trust any more? This incredible suppression
of accurate information is literally maddening and leads to paranoia.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 03/15/2008
- landmine I'm a Fan of landmine 4 fans permalink

If our dumbed down populace would just crack open a simple world history book once in awhile, they wouldn't need anyone to tell them this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:37 PM on 03/15/2008
- desmirl I'm a Fan of desmirl 9 fans permalink

US involvement with WWII lasted from December 1941 through September 1945. The industrial and military might of Germany and Japan were crushed by the forces of Freedom. We had President Roosevelt and President Truman leading our efforts, and their leadership was exeplary. We've been in Iraq 5 years and still, under the leadership of George W. Bush, a rag-tag bunch of insurgents armed with RPGs are AK-47s are making us look like idiots to the rest of the world. Of course, if we hadn't bought the lies that took us into Iraq.... Oh, my....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/15/2008
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