Al Qaeda In Iraq Far Stronger Than Bush Administration Admitting

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ROBERT BURNS | March 15, 2008 03:41 AM EST | AP

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Iraqi soldier stand guard after a mini bus exploded in central district of Karrada in Baghdad, Iraq, in this April 15, 2007 file photo. (AP Photo/Khalid Mohammed, File )

WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five years ago to develop into a major killer.

The militants are weakened, battered, perhaps even desperate, by most U.S. accounts. But far from being "routed," as Defense Secretary Robert Gates claimed last month, they're still there, still deadly active and likely to remain far into the future, military and other officials told The Associated Press.

Commanders and the other officials commented in a series of interviews and assessments discussing persistent violence in Iraq and intelligence judgments there and in the U.S.

Putting the squeeze on al-Qaida in Iraq was a primary objective of the revised U.S. military strategy that Gen. David Petraeus inherited when he became the top commander in Baghdad 13 months ago. The goal _ largely achieved _ was to minimize the group's ability to inflame sectarian violence, which at the time was so intense that some characterized Iraq as trapped in a civil war.

However, the militants are proving they can survive even the most suffocating U.S. military pressure.

"They are not to be underestimated. That's one thing I've seen over and over," said Col. John Charlton, commander of the Army's 1st Brigade, 3rd Infantry Division. His unit has fought al-Qaida for the past 14 months in a portion of Anbar province that includes the provincial capital of Ramadi.

"I'm always very amazed at their ability to adapt and find new vulnerabilities," Charlton said in a telephone interview this week from his headquarters outside of Ramadi. "They are very good at that," even though they have largely lost the support of local citizens.

The U.S. and Iraqi government intent is to chip away at al-Qaida until it is reduced to "almost a nonentity," Army Lt. Gen. Ray Odierno said March 4 shortly after finishing his tour as the No. 2 U.S. commander in Iraq. "Unfortunately with these terrorist organizations, they will always be there at some level."

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Demonstrating anew their remarkable staying power, the militants are thought to be behind attacks in recent days in Baghdad and beyond, including bombings in the capital March 7 that killed at least 68 people.

Now that U.S. troop reinforcements are beginning to go home, Petraeus and the Bush administration will be watching closely to see if American-trained Iraqi forces can keep up the pressure on al-Qaida.

Al-Qaida in Iraq, which did not exist as a coherent group before U.S. troops invaded in March 2003, probably now numbers no more than 6,000, according to U.S. intelligence estimates. It may have been closer to 10,000-strong before the severe pummeling it took last year, when it lost its main bases of Sunni Arab support. It controls no cities but is still active in pockets through much of central and northern Iraq.

Charlton, whose unit is leaving Iraq shortly and will not be replaced by another U.S. brigade in Anbar, said he is confident of the Iraqis' determination not to allow al-Qaida back into their communities.

But resilience has been a hallmark of al-Qaida in Iraq, which emerged only after its leader, the Jordanian terrorist Abu Musab al-Zarqawi, pledged his allegiance to Osama bin Laden, leader of the global al-Qaida network, in October 2004. It has survived innumerable reverses in recent years, including al-Zarqawi's death in a June 2006 U.S. airstrike

The successor to al-Zarqawi is Abu Ayub al-Masri, an Egyptian who keeps a lower public profile.

The group's other leadership figures also are foreigners from Arab nations including Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Yemen, Syria, Morocco and Libya, according to two defense officials who discussed details of the organization on condition of anonymity. The rank-and-file membership is largely Iraqi.

Hardly a day goes by that the U.S. military command in Baghdad doesn't announce the capture or killing of an al-Qaida figure. On Thursday, for example, the military said troops detained four suspected terrorists northwest of Samarra while targeting an alleged foreign terrorist facilitator and associates of a media cell leader involved in al-Qaida's network in Anbar province.

Brian Fishman, an al-Qaida watcher at the Combating Terrorism Center at the U.S. Military Academy, said that although al-Qaida in Iraq lost some of its "strategic focus" after al-Zarqawi's death, it remains a threat.

"It's way too soon to count these guys out," he said.

In a report to Congress this week, the Pentagon said elements of al-Qaida in Iraq are "highly lethal" in parts of the Tigris River valley north of Baghdad and in Ninevah province in northern Iraq. And it said the group, though less effective overall, is capable of striking "across Iraq."

That doesn't seem to fit the description offered by Army Lt. Col. John A. Nagl, a battalion commander in the 1st Infantry Division, who wrote in an opinion article in The Washington Post on March 9 that al-Qaida in Iraq was "largely defeated."

Certainly the group's stated goal of establishing an Islamic fundamentalist state in Iraq has been blocked. And there is no sign that al-Qaida is anywhere near being in position to regain momentum.

Charlton, the Army commander in Ramadi, said propaganda material from local al-Qaida members or supporters has changed markedly in tone in recent months.

"Back in early 2007 and in 2006 you would typically see propaganda that was very boastful, very aggressive and very confident," Charlton said. "It would say things like, `We're coming to get the sheiks, we're going to kill them all,' that type of stuff. Lately, the propaganda is very different. It's appealing on an ideological basis to the population _ as if they realize they've lost the support of the people."

But al-Qaida isn't going away.

Marine Maj. Gen. John Kelly, the top U.S. commander in Anbar province, told reporters at the Pentagon by teleconference this week that al-Qaida in Iraq has the wherewithal, when squeezed, to shift to other places. After being pushed out of Anbar in early 2007, the militants reasserted themselves in Baghdad. After getting hammered in the capital they slipped north, first to Diyala and more recently to the northern province of Ninevah, whose capital, Mosul, is now the scene of heavy fighting.

"Our sense is they'll come back to where they know best," Kelly said, referring to Anbar.

WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five ye...
WASHINGTON — Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much when denouncing the shadowy group, known as al-Qaida in Iraq, that used the U.S. invasion five ye...
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- tompoe I'm a Fan of tompoe 25 fans permalink

Pure slop! Straight from the Bush/Cheney script book. Where's the truth? One more effort from a guy who wants to make sure he gets another paycheck. What we need is journalism that doesn't reek of slimy revisionism to justify invasion/occupation at the expense of millions of Iraqi citizens.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 03/15/2008
- laocoon I'm a Fan of laocoon 30 fans permalink

I posted a comment which was reasonably on topic and had no offensive language. It disappeared. I am about to stop commenting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 03/15/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

so this was the defeatocrat article that was decided on at today's Huffobama breakfast meeting..." lets fabricate an antiamerica column on Iraq"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 03/15/2008
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It seems so dumb to identify as your main enemy an organization when that organization is nothing but the organizing PRINCIPLE of avenging the destruction of Arab lives and homelands.

The article states "Hardly a day goes by that the U.S. military command in Baghdad doesn't announce the capture or killing of an al-Qaida figure.". Hardly a day goes by, then, that a new crop of likely recruits is generated by American-sponsored violence against somebody who is Muslim, Arab and in Iraq.

MAYBE if you could cut off all supplies of weapons and bombstuff from everybody who's not under tight US control you could stop Al-Quaea; but trying to kill them off as if they were a species of distinctive bad guy is just stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 03/15/2008

It doesn't say much for Huffington when the words used in their headline for a piece are found only in the headline.

Oh well. Another comment that won't make it past the comment nazis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:36 PM on 03/15/2008
- Dem02020 I'm a Fan of Dem02020 13 fans permalink
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Is this a joke?

The Associated Press Robert Burns item begins:

"Al-Qaida is in Iraq to stay. It's not a conclusion the White House talks about much..."

The White House (the Bush administration) doesn't talk much about "al-qaida in Iraq"?

Are you kidding me?
Is that a joke?

According to the Bush administration, not only is "al-qaida in Iraq", but they're everywhere in Iraq; and not only are they there now, they're going to be there INDEFINITELY...

...for as long as the Bush administration can convince the American People that "al-qaida is in Iraq", is how long U.S. Troops will be in Iraq.


Before you all jump up and down, and cheer and repeat what you think is something the Bush administration is reluctant to "talk about", you should consider it a little bit...

"al-qaida is in Iraq" is their talking point, not yours... and that "al-qaida is in Iraq" for years to come (a hundred years, according to Sen. McCain), for an INDEFINITE period, that's exactly what the Bush administration wants you to believe, and is a talking point they want you to repeat for them, thank you very much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 PM on 03/15/2008

Thanks to the Republicans and their boneheaded invasion we now have Islamic terror in Iraq. But the good news is that we can now have an excuse to stay in their country until the OIL is no longer important. Way to go Team R--Mission Accomplished! 100 years of war is win-win for you guys, just not so great for the people who wil end up dying

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 03/15/2008

Just amazing. Last week they were saying the surge all but wiped out al Qaeda and the Sunni insurgents are now on our side. Now they want to keep troop levels high, so al Qaeda is a real force in Iraq (since last week?). They just make this crap up to short circuit the only intelligent, legal, sensible action on the part of the U.S. -- safe, immediate withdrawal of all US troops and contractors. There will be no calamity of biblical proportions if we leave, as those in the region can't afford it. Certainly nothing as devastating as the Iran/Iraq war will occur. And there is no outcome in Iraq worth the trillions the war will cost (devastating our economy) either under the McCain scenario or under the Clinton or Obama scenario.

As Ahmahdinejad gets a hero's welcome when he goes to Bagdad now -- possibly propelling his allies to win elections we have been told over the past several months they were going to lose -- and al Sadr's militia is basically upholding a ceasefire, but would fight al Qaeda, the Administration, and soon the media and Democrats, will refrain from pushing for safe, immediate withdrawal in order to fight a resurgent Iraqi al Qaeda, that the surge supposedly all but destroyed while it was making Ahmahdinejad a hero in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 PM on 03/15/2008

So,al Qaida-members in Iraq com from Aegypt, Saudi Arabia, Tunisia, Yemen, Syria, Morocco and Libya - But none comes from IRAN? Come on, american intelligence community - you can do better than that. You OWE GWB an Iranian in iraqi al Qaida - at least ONE! He wants SO MUCH to link iraqi al Qaida with Iran!!! No one? PLEEEEEASE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:56 PM on 03/15/2008
- souris I'm a Fan of souris 11 fans permalink
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......what? The Bush Administration has lied to us??? I'm shocked I tell you, just shocked!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:55 PM on 03/15/2008
- fourex I'm a Fan of fourex 17 fans permalink
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Al Qaeda in NY should not be taken lightly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:29 PM on 03/15/2008

And the beat goes on and on and on......Yes sir, American voters....put either a McCain or a Clinton in the White House and the "dumb war" that Bush/Cheney started will go on and on and on and on.
McCain talks about his fear that al-Qaida might attack before the election to sway the outcome is unbelievable.....Bin Laden came out with a "video" right before the 2004 election and swayed the vote to Bush. McCain, wake up, they no longer have to bother attacking inside this country....they send out a video on cue when needed and sit back and watch the implosion of this country....the are winning by higher gas prices, higher food costs, our financial markets fall, Katrina victims 3 years later with no homes, deficits for the next 2 generations to deal with, corruption in Washington, and yes - al-Qaida win with a Clinton - McCain ticket in 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 PM on 03/15/2008
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The main impetus for al Qaeda in Iraq is US. Once we leave,

they will be rejected by the government that will evolve there.

By staying until the oil is gone, we only incite more terrorism.

All the neocon's arguments & lies are based on remaining,

for all the profiteering and all the oil under Iraq's sand/land.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 03/15/2008
- laocoon I'm a Fan of laocoon 30 fans permalink

It is amazing what inconsistent themes the right buys and sells. On the one hand we hear how degraded Al Qaida is. On the other hand we hear how much Bush needs the extraordinary tools and powers to defeat it. Such powers were not needed by FDR against the Axis powers, by Wilson against the Central powers, by Ike against the north koreans and chinese, etc. But Bush absolutely must be allowed to suspend the bill of rights and have star chamber powers to defeat the already all but defeated. Why???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 03/15/2008
- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 271 fans permalink

Poor Junior... so misunderestimated. What he meant is that, in HIS alternate universe, al Qaeda has been "routed"... and 'DJ' Karl is "funny"... and the economy is "robust"... and Jeebus speaks to him through the bedroom wall... and he's a real president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 03/15/2008
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