Obama\'s Church Accuses Media Of Character Assassination

Obama's Church Accuses Media Of Character Assassination

Politico   |   March 16, 2008 03:02 PM


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The Chicago church attended by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) issued a statement Sunday contending that coverage of his pastor's inflammatory statements amounted to character assassination and "an attack on ... the history of the African American church."

Obama condemned inflammatory statements by the church's retiring pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., after they circulated on YouTube last week and were played repeatedly by cable news channels.

Wright, condemning society as racists, said, "God [expletive] America" and referred to the "U.S. of KKK-A."

The statement begins: "Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.'s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe."


 
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I don't know if people remember that the KKK burn many black churches and Kill many blacks, these blacks happens to be our grandparents. Lets don't forget that we still face racism even till this day In America. What Jeremiah A. Wright Jr was saying is just the truth, and sometimes the truth hurt and is painful even for many blacks who remember these sad days in America, maybe was a good thing that this video came out. It may open up some type dialog between black and whites.
The reality is this one, its hard to forget the past specially when people have done terrible thing to your ancestors. Look at Middle East for Example Palestinian have never forgiven the Israelis or the Sunnis the Shia.
This is why I believe Obama can Unite all Americans, because we can't continue this way.
I do Believe that the Bush administration have done some harm to race relations in this country.
I'm really glad that Bush term is almost over. we will be able to start a new chapter in American History

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/16/2008
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Well said. And I agree. It is precisely because there is a lot of truth in what the Reverend says that many are upset and offended by it. And, sometimes, truth needs to be presented in a manner that shocks people, to wake them up, and to make them think.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 03/16/2008
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Yes, there is plenty of truth in what Reverend Wright has said, even though he spoke out somewhat intemperately. But, that is his prerogative, is it not?
If you want to hear truly hateful and inflammatory sermons check out some white preachers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 PM on 03/16/2008

Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. preached the Christian tenet, “love thy neighbor as thyself.”

before I even start reading the spin that Hillary haters are going to put on this I'll just post that quote from the article and make a comment or two.
1. The UCC is not an African American Church. It is a Church. It is a Protestant Christian denomination and it was founded in the whitest part of the country, New England, in the 1700's I believe. (Read Johathon Edwards if you want to know more about the views of early UCC) Having attended a UCC seminary I have a tiny bit of understanding about it.

That being said the UCC is probably the most liberal denomination within the Protestant umbrella of Christianity. In seminary other denominations would joke that UCC's were Unitarians Considering Christ. (all in good fun) There are many who don't even think UCC is Christian, not enough sinning condemnation being done maybe. They are now open and affirming and have a history of social justice even if sometimes misplaced as in the early days with Native Americans.

So, to call the UCC an African American church is not accurate. The AME is an African American denomination though anyone can attend and join, it is inclusive though far more conservative than the UCC.

The second point is that since HuffPo has been "on the air" I have read incredible amounts of ugliness and hostility towards religion in general and Chrstianity in particular, and Christians specifically. There has been a consistent thread of these attacks at any and every opportunity to vent, in particular from many that I see commenting and supportive of Obama. These are the same people who I have seen damning the media (rightly so) on every occasion as the corporate whores and liars and whatever other creative invective they can come up with.

I find it interesting that there has been very little talk against the media until very recently when Barack started being questioned about this and that. (mildly I might add) I have seen little or no criticism or hatred being spit out about the church, God, or Christians now.
Why is that?

Did the media all of a sudden become credible? Did Christianity become logical and understandable to all of those who were so vociferous in their condemnation?

This kind of hypocrisy is what splits the party, what is divisive, what will lose us the election.

My suggestion is to look at ourselves if we lose. Not the Rethugs, Not Rev. Wright , Not Obama, and Not Hillary Clinton.

"Let it start with me." is a great suggestion for becoming a change agent and for taking responsibility for one's own actions and attitudes for good or ill.

I find it disturbing how many people are signing up to be agents of change yet continue hateful rhetoric. Stop the scapegoating and start changing what you can. Let it begin with me. or you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 03/16/2008
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I read a blip that suggested they may investigate this church for tax fraud due to the poltical nature. I'd say the Church's statement pretty much says it all.

Nobody seems to be too concerned in that group about the remarks he made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 03/16/2008
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Link for the blip?

Actually, I am not part of that Church, or any Church for that matter, and I find nothing offensive or racist in the remarks of Reverend Wright. I do question his assertion about AIDS, but the rest of what he says is pretty factual.

I particularly liked his powerful statement using that "Goddamn America" line. Obama has denounced that, but I find nothing wrong with that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 03/16/2008
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OK by me if you like that kind of preaching.

I wouldn't ever sit for a minute with anyone with that type of anger talk. No thanks.

My only concern as far as politics go is that I do not believe him for a heartbeat that he didn't know exactly what the good rev. preached about.

He lied. He does that on a fairly regular basis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 03/16/2008
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Ann, it's impossible to get anyone in this echo chamber to realize how offensive this America-hating is to most of the voters. As an American Indian, I understand a thing or two about historical injustice, but most of us live in the now. Very few Indian people would agree with the hateful rhetoric spewed out by Rev. Wright. My tribe's Black Leggings Society is made up of Native American Veterans like my late uncles and late father. This country has a long way to go to live up to its promise, but "God damn America" is the kiss of death for Obama's chances in the general election. Even though I have never voted for a Republican (My first vote was for McGovern.,) this makes me question Obama's judgement. I read your comments and the endless attacks you garner with great interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 03/16/2008
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There was nothing hateful in what Reverend Wright said. And I particularly liked the message conveyed by "Goddamn America". To me, that is like burning the flag to make a strong political statement. Not only that I don't object to it, I think it is the right way to wake people up and pay attention.

Oh! since you brought up veterans, Reverend Wright is also a veteran - not that that is particularly relevant.

People who are offended by "Goddamn America" must have very low self esteem, and very shallow sense of patriotism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 PM on 03/16/2008
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So you're not a Dixiecrat? :) I read yours, too.

The judgment issue is pretty well settled. So is the unity message. Ditto for Hope. All he's got left is attacking Bill Clinton, and there's a problem with that one, too.

Voters really do not care about the papers from aids giving the background on people requesting pardons. *haha I don't know about where you live, but where I live, we're a lot more worried about the price of gas.

He'll get slaughtered by McCain if he's the nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 03/16/2008
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Yeller...

I suggest you go and read the post by Frank Schaffer..His father was an evangelical preacher revered by Republicans.. go read it and then see what you think..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 03/16/2008

Yeller, you can speak for yourself. I know tons of American Indians who feel shafted by what's happened here in America. It's a good thing that you've been able to transcend the negative experience and believe for a better tomorrow, just like Obama. But the notion that "most of us live in the now" is not 100% accurate. All American Indians don't spend every single day reflecting on the injustice, but they're aware of it. For those who've been able to get into the mainstream, they're less likely to feel bitter, but for those who unfortunately are still in the reservations, not all of them feel the way you feel.

Having said that most African Americans don't go around saying God damn America, but they're aware of the injustices of slavery and Jim crow along with the lingering impact of today. Most don't say or believe the God should damn America, but for the ones that are bitter, it's more prudent to reach out to them and show empathy. People deal with diferent situations differently. Don't blame the victim, help them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 03/17/2008

YellerDawg, your echo chamber point is a very real and valid one. That being said, it would be impressive, if the MSM/bloggers and the long tail actually received or cared to seek out a balanced view of Wright and his Church. Instead we drink what the right-wing, and money-hungry media serve us-- like a milkshake. Watch this for some balance: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/15/203242/685/352/477632

and read more about the Church before you take a position.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/123604

Furthermore, 30 seconds out of 30 year history of sermons serving the downtrodden is a criminal and grotesquely unfair way to portray Wright and his Church (which by the way is Protestant in foundation and has members of many, many, many races)

Finally, Barack Obama is not Jeremiah Wright -- and 30 seconds of Jeremiah Wright do not the Candidate Make -- I agree with your basic point about the reactions that are not Huffpo or Kos, but we also need the lazy media to do its job and offer some balance

Furthermore, we need to wake up.

BUSH-CLINTON-CLINTON-BUSH-BUSH-?-?

20 years of abject failure/deadlock on numerous issues and we're focusing on this? Name 5 people you know, who, living within their means, are comfortably surviving and saving for their children's education on one salary?

We re drinking Kool Aid propaganda instead of voting our true interests economic, security, etc.

We all out to read more actively, view more critically, get beyond the pablum the press, including the blogs, feed us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 03/17/2008
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This investigation stems from Obama addressing the UCC's 50th anniversary General Synod in Hartford, Conn., on June 23, 2007, as one of 60 diverse speakers representing the arts, media, academia, science, technology, business and government. Each was asked to reflect on the intersection of their faith and their respective vocations or fields of expertise. The invitation to Obama was extended a year before he became a Democratic presidential candidate. This resulted in the IRS initiating a church tax inquiry "because reasonable belief exists that the United Church of Christ(not Trinity United Church of Christ) has engaged in political activities that could jeopardize its tax-exempt status."

Sitting presidents and presidential candidates have a long history of speaking before non-profit, faith-based bodies.

In January of this year, both Obama and Sen. Hillary Clinton spoke separately to the national gathering of the National Baptist Convention of America. In April 1996, when her husband, Bill Clinton, was seeking re-election, then-First Lady Hillary Clinton, who is United Methodist, spoke before her denomination's quadrennial General Conference.

In March 1983, President Ronald Reagan gave his famous "Evil Empire" speech before the National Association of Evangelicals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/16/2008
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Interesting......thanks. I trust your account better than my memory.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/16/2008
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How come there's so much cacophony from the trolls on this Reverend Wright thing? Are you just as upset about McCain and Rev. Hagee?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/16/2008
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Lousy comparison. Hagee is a religious nutjob who happened to endorse McCain. Wright is a leftwing nut job who has been Obama's minister for the last 20 years

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 03/16/2008

Why is Wright a nut job? cause he called out America's history of racism, or the unfortunate incident of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, or that America didn't stand up to the Aparthied regime of SA or that it's turned a blind eye while the right wing likud party has pushed the mid east agenda, with victims on the palestinian side? All those things are true unfortunately. The only outrageous thing on the message is that he said God damn America, which I think is very unfortunate. He's saying Hillary has never been called the N word and doesn't know what it is to be in the shoes of a black man is true. Now that doesn't mean Hillary can't empatize with black folks. It just mean she really can't comprehend fully that concept.

Overall, it seems egragious when the tape is looked at in isolation, but once context is put around it, then it starts to make sense. Sense not to accept those statements, but diasavow and at the same time understand where whoever is making those comments is coming from. Black people have been subject to prejudice for several centuries in America. you can understand why someone who's black can make a statement like that based on their experience. But Hagee and Parsley's comments are the more insidious stuff, because there's absolutely no basis for such comments...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 03/17/2008
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Have you heard Obama make any racists statements? Has he acted like a racists? Can you prove Obama has done anything that proves he is anti-american? And don't use that flag lapel pin garbage.

Hagee is a religious nutjob that has thousands of people in his church each week listening to his hate, so I guess they should never be allowed to run for any public office either. McCain was on stage with him for the endorsement, so he is guilty by association.

I grew up in the Catholic church during the time so I guess I better not run for office because I set through mass for years and listened to the sermons of someone who might have abused children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 AM on 03/17/2008
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I which they were but the hate speech that comes from Hagee is okay, I guess. I have this right-win republican friend who sends me some of the most hateful emails from the different groups she belongs to. She feels that if you don't think like she does than you are anti-american, anti-god. In her mind all muslims are terriorists, end of discussion.

I just wish we would take religion out of politics, but that will never happen. It looks to me that Freedom of Speech only applies to the right-wing.

I am a veteran and I am also tired of hearing about Patroitism. I see people with those Support our Troops magnets on their cars and when asked what they have done to support the troops, their answer is NOTHING.

We really need to stop all this hate or this country is in serious trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 03/16/2008
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I just wish we would take religion out of politics
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I think we should take religion out of everything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 03/17/2008
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I'm glad the church is pushing back against MSM. I only hope that Obama doesn't throw his church under the bus for this. He should continue what he's been saying, but remain a member of the church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:24 PM on 03/16/2008
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Read a piece at the Chicago Sun-Times called "The Wright Move". It tells about Obama sitting in the Pews of the Church while Rev Wright gave his sermon called "The Audacity of Hope". Obama was listening to Rev. Wright tell about looking at a painting of someone on the mountain top, looking down into the valley below and all the terrible things he was seeing, Greedy white people, the bombing of Hiroshima, the bad State and national gov'ts, all the stuff you saw him talk about in the videos. All of Rev Wright's sermons are the same, complaining about the country and white people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 03/16/2008
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The Chicago Sun-Times is still pissed about the fact that they couldn't get an interview re Rezko.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/16/2008
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And,in that respect, Reverend Wright is spot on. There are greedy White people, too many of them, and we did bomb Hiroshima, and there are problems, big problems, with our government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:07 PM on 03/16/2008

Let's not forget that white men like you and me have had our boot on the throat of the black man for four hundred years.

Not you and me personally, but white people in general. Today

Strangely enough, there are a few black people who resent being held in bondage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/16/2008
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Also you need to remember that Obama was raised by his white mother and grandparents so I think it is pretty safe to say he doesn't hate white people and wouldn't stay in a church that hates his family and by extension himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 03/16/2008
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Well, I saw the serman. I see he stayed.

I conclude you're wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 03/16/2008
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Hank
I'm sure everyone Knows Obama was present when all the Ranting Racist remarks were spoken...in the context of a ( Sermon ???)
Why would anyone think such talk from a pulpit was okay ??? I can't even imagine that Obamans are saying it's fine !!! If thats what is *preached* in their church, with little children and teens in the audience , please tell me what *Change* could you possibly expect , when all you do is spew Hate on and on into the future ????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 03/16/2008
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It's a mixed race congregation maybe you should ask the white people about the racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 03/16/2008
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Please tell me what was racist about what the reverend said? It seems like you'd rather rant and rave about Obama and the church as opposed to considering what validity Wright's statements may have.

This country has a long history of injustice towards many ethnic groups, that is a fact. Instead of simply branding someone that criticizes America as being "racist" (which is a tradional Repub tactic) you should take the time to look at what the comments mean and why many people feel that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 03/16/2008
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Why would anyone think such talk from a pulpit was okay ???
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I don't know about Obama or others, but I have no problem with it, other than all the God and Jesus stuff.

For all the political stuff, I would insist that my children be present. There was some powerful stuff said in that Church. And I sensed no hate in it whatsoever.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 03/16/2008
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How does everyone know that Obama was present for those specific comments. Sources, otherwise it's just race baiting!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 03/16/2008
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And? There is nothing to complain about? Why? Because we passed the civil rights act and some have made it to the middle class? MLK was assassinated before we got to the mountaintop. Let's remember, the black churches is where black people go to be lifted up and to get an opportunity to face the next week with all of its weights.

Let's get back to work so that we can improve race relations instead of being shocked and indignant that African Americans just 40 years after Jim Crow officially ended and 5 years after the KKK decided to get a legit face and 4 years after Katrina are not yet feeling fully part of the whole American dream.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/16/2008

I am as outraged anddisgusted with the way this country has been thrown off track for the last 40 yrs as the Rev.
Unfortunatley there is a great disparity between what is America and Who are Americans.
The corps ahve stolen our identiy and our symbols and have bastardized them throughout the World.
They should not be allowed to fly our flag outside their headquarters unless they adhere to our Principles and ethics. otherwise they can fly the flags of the countries who are their Sponsors (UAE/ China).
they are Not US- they are wolves in sheeps clothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 03/16/2008
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I like Reverend Wright. He makes me think.

The only problem I have with the Rev is that he is too religious for my taste. But, the others are not much better. The only thing I hold against him is that he took a perfectly sane man called Obama and "helped" him find Christ. What a waste!

I kind of like what the Reverend says. I didn't quite understand what he said about AIDS, but the rest of it is actually fact-based, if not entirely factual. And I loved the line about Hillary not ever being called a "ni**er" - a very true, and a very powerful statement. I also liked his "Goddamn America" line. It sort of wakes you up and makes you think. It is like burning the flag to shock people into thinking.

People who are bothered by it are no different than those Muslim nuts who were bent out of shape over cartoons of their prophet. No difference.

For some, patriotism starts and ends at putting a "Bless the Troops" bumper sticker or just saying how great America is. True patriots take action to make America better. And the first step toward making America better is an acknowledgement that there are problems in America and with America.

What is so wrong about what he said about 9/11? Of course it was partly a result of what America has done in the past. After all, al Qaeda is an offshoot of the Mujahedin in Afghanistan that U.S. supported. Osama bin Laden used to be our ally and his operation was partly funded by the CIA. These are facts. We helped create al Qaeda.

It is also a fact that a lot of rage against the U.S. is because of our policies in the Middle East, made particularly acute by the first Gulf War and stationing of U.S. troops in Saudi Arabia. Our continued unconditional support of Israel to the detriment and suffering of Palestinians is another reason.

Of course the whole thing is connected. Reverend Wright is right. And this current Iraq war is bound to create more animosity around the world against us. And this will result in more 9/11 type attacks. It is inevitable.

And unless we talk about these things and take action to fix things, our children will pay the price. Patriotism is to leave a better America for our children, not just sit around and say how great we are.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 03/16/2008
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Study this from Dr. Boyd D. Graves. Google him to find more information.

http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/theworld/graves.htm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/16/2008

Martin Luther King was thought provoking in this speech in 1960
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOOL3BYaIEQ&feature
so was JFK in this speech
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x2Jr03ADQmk&feature=related

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 03/17/2008

Hume, people who respond to a sneeze with "God bless you" are too religious for you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 AM on 03/17/2008
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 03/16/2008
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Just heard Richard Stengler from Time on Chris Matthews say that Edwards is going to endorse Clinton before N.Carolina.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 PM on 03/16/2008
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what why?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 PM on 03/16/2008
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no why given. it was at end of show and he said he heard that it would happen either before NC or PA. It's being talked about at Kos amd someone heard Andrea Mitchell repeat it on NBC, Could be rumour but it came from R. Stengel from Time. Not sure if he does gossip. people are starting to buzz http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/3/16/105413/603/101/477891 I think it would be very hypocritical of him considering his platform and her ethics and lobbying ties etc

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/16/2008
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Interesting news. Maybe the rev. was a bit over-the-top for the Dems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 PM on 03/16/2008
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Don't be ashamed you didn't say them the Rev did. The Rev is speaking from his perspective not yours or for that matter Sen Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/16/2008
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Senators Obama is black and white,his preacher is black--his wife is black and so are his church members---theses are facts and if the media or any person stated these things they would be called racist--well call it want you want but remember it is the truth!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 03/16/2008

Give me black liberation theology any day if the alternative is the insane, rabid crap coming out of Republican churches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 03/16/2008

I am black and I am ashamed to hear these horrible things. But one question I have to that church is this: what happens to the part of the gospel that said "love your ennemy".
The problem with us is we spend to much time complaining or whining about the past. Yeah! bad things have happened but let's look forward.
Personally, I don't see a white man as the source of my own problem. I have to take responsibility of my own life.
The pastor is wrong. It is wrong to hate his own country no matter. If you don't agree with the policies that is fine but don't hate your country that gave you so much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 03/16/2008
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Don't be ashamed you didn't say them the Rev did. The Rev is speaking from his perspective not yours or for that matter Sen Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/16/2008
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He chose that church and put that man on his own committee.

Strange judgment call. But, in any case, it's very strange for someone purporting to run for president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/16/2008
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I disagree with you. Bad things didn't only happen in the past, many bad things are happening today. Besides, it is wrong to forget the past. We should keep the past alive and learn from it. Isn't that the reason we have Holocaust museums arounf the world?

We must be courageous enough and honest enough to acknowledge that we have problems. Unless we do that, no problems will get solved.

You might not agree with the way Reverend Wright presents the truth, but there is a lot of truth in what he says.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 03/16/2008

Wright actually did say that the was grateful that Jesus taught him not to hate but to love his enemies in that sermon. You just have to listen to it for more than 30 seconds. But the MSM doesn't include that part.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 03/17/2008

It is very unlikely that Sen. Obama has had no knowledge of what the Pastor was preaching in the past several decades. As a voter/cictizen I want to be treated as an adult and not a as child who takes all the 'fairy-tale twist and turns' without thinking.
Please, don't do this Mr. Obama! It's not suitable (to say the least!) for a man with charisma and ambition who has targeted the position of the President of the U.S.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:16 PM on 03/16/2008
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