Obama\'s Church Accuses Media Of Character Assassination

Obama's Church Accuses Media Of Character Assassination

Politico   |   March 16, 2008 03:02 PM


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The Chicago church attended by Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) issued a statement Sunday contending that coverage of his pastor's inflammatory statements amounted to character assassination and "an attack on ... the history of the African American church."

Obama condemned inflammatory statements by the church's retiring pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., after they circulated on YouTube last week and were played repeatedly by cable news channels.

Wright, condemning society as racists, said, "God [expletive] America" and referred to the "U.S. of KKK-A."

The statement begins: "Nearly three weeks before the 40th commemorative anniversary of the murder of the Reverend Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the Reverend Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr.'s character is being assassinated in the public sphere because he has preached a social gospel on behalf of oppressed women, children and men in America and around the globe."


 
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- TWOSHORT I'm a Fan of TWOSHORT 3 fans permalink

Distraction-Let's turn the other cheek and get on with making those who are elected by Americans get us the hell out of the trouble i and other American i don't know are in like. Foreclosers of home across this nation destroying millions of American's Credit Rating and there ability to buy in the furture[DI­STRACTION]­]- We americans in some part's of this nation are having to let our childern drink water contamied with drug that us american piss into the water system of America everyday[D­ISTRACTION­]- We are at war on two front costing us the taxpayer how much a month to keep these wars going while our money is turning bad around the world[DISTRACTION]. When are we going to start talking about the DRAFT? We can't keep up this pace if War is to be won by never giving leave to our Troops who are on how many rotation to Iraq and Affganistan- without replacment­s[DISTRACT­ION] And how many American Children have gone into a life of poverty because of foreclosers around this nation and who of us cares[DISTRACTION] Hillary i no well do anything to kill Hope as we see in the conversation we are having about a BLACK MAN- Now Mc Cain on the other hand hasn't come out swinging he seem to be siting back watching what Hillary is throwing at Obama[DISTRACTION]

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:15 PM on 03/16/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 53 fans permalink

I challenge anyone who reads this who happens to be living or visiting Chicago to check out Trinity United Church of Christ of 95th Street on the south side. You will find that what these monstrous poltical operatives and shallow pundits have done is a shameful thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 03/16/2008

I'm a 40+ year old white male from Mississippi and I can say without hesitation that what Rev. Wright said, though infammatory and uncomfortable to hear, was absolutely RIGHT ON THE MONEY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 03/16/2008

Muqtada Al-Sadr has done some wonderful things for his shites in the deep deep poverty stricken / slums of Sadr city,Iraq .

Maybe you could lend a support and your utmost respect for him too?

he too feels ' america's chickens have come home to roost at 911'
he too feels ' his god should damn america'
he too feels ' whites/eur­opeans/wes­t works towards annhilation of his people'
he too feels ' AIDS was spread by the west'
he too feels ' 911 was justified'

Could you please---pay your utmost respect for him too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 03/16/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

Who did Rev Wright kill or spur to violence ? Your analogy is revolting

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 03/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1607 fans permalink
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Well! Not everything. But, I do agree that Reverend Wright many things which are both true and powerful.

I didn't quite understand what he said about AIDS, but the rest of it is actually fact-based, if not entirely factual. And I loved the line about Hillary not ever being called a "ni**er" - a very true, and a very powerful statement. I also liked his "Goddamn America" line. It sort of wakes you up and makes you think. It is like burning the flag to shock people into thinking.

People who are bothered by it are no different than those Muslim nuts who were bent out of shape over cartoons of their prophet. No difference.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:10 PM on 03/16/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 15 fans permalink

If you can't understand the AIDS thing, remember you are dealing with people who lost family from the Tuskeegee experiment .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 PM on 03/16/2008
- awb I'm a Fan of awb 10 fans permalink

http://blog.beliefnet.com/jwalking/

Above is a link to David Kuo blog Beliefnet.
He offers some very good insight - and praise - for Sen. Obama's ability to separate the "sin" from the "sinner"

Anyone who bothers to research Sen. Obama's writings, read any of his books understands that when he went to Chicago as a community organizer at 27 years of age - not a as a child -- he was advised to join the Church to understand the plight of the black man. That this would help him do a better job in the community.

Obama came to Chicago with a black face but as a white man.

The multiple culture and as Obama says "little bits of America" in him are what makes him truly unique. He stayed at the Church for the good works they did for the community. This is not in dispute.

That over the course of 20 years Rev Wright said some deplorable things is also not in dispute.

What is most upsetting about this whole episode is that if thinking people are willing to abandon a cause and a movement based on a few minutes of targeted, isolated video - how commited were they in the first place?

Obama is the same man he was before FOX and co started incessantly replaying the same clips over and over again.

Was what Wright said about 9/11 vile? Yes but I hate to tell you what my Rabbi said at the service after 9/11 and am glad for his sake no one videotaped it

Obama is to be commended -not derided- for being able to separate the messenger from the message --
Maybe if we had people in government who could do this we would not be having the fifth anniversary of a pointless war this week

If we allow ourselves to be manipulated by YOU TUBE then shame on us all

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:54 PM on 03/16/2008

We have some fringe groups that praise Hitler.

I'd like you to join that group and yet be hailed as BRILLANT when I say you can seperate the sin from the sinnner.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 03/16/2008
- mcfried I'm a Fan of mcfried 15 fans permalink

You are a mental case are you paid to be this nasty or do you do it for free ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:39 PM on 03/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1607 fans permalink
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Joining a fringe group that praises Hitler is not the same as joining a Church, as stupid as it is to join a Church. Reverend Wright is talking about injustice done to Blacks in the past, and continues today. A better analogy would be to join a group against anti-semitism, not pro-Hitler.

I'm afraid that you are very confused about this whole thing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 03/16/2008

I am so sick of people taking all the advantages that America has to offer, and then turning around and spewing a bunch of ungrateful hatred against the very country that has given them a chance to succeed. Ungrateful hypocrites. Name a country that has offered more freedoms than America. Where is this country of Perfection, hmmm? PLEASE LET US KNOW! If you are so determined to hate America, and you think this country is the Ameri -KKK- of A as Rev. racist Wright likes to call it. Then why in Gods name do you stay here. And why do so many people of color from all over the world want so desperately to come here? Because America is a GREAT country, thats why. DEAL WITH IT, SHOW SOME PRIDE, OR GET OUT! FIND ANOTHER COUNTRY THAT'S BETTER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:50 PM on 03/16/2008

Hey Wayne are you the same bigot that posted your garbage on NYT Cacus Blog

"83.March 16th,
2008
1:59 pm LET’S PLAY A GAME CALLED “NAME OBAMA’S BIGOT PASTORS”

Who was the Anti-Gay Bigot Pastor Obama put on his homophobic tour through South Carolina (Hint: It’s the Pastor and “Ex-Gay” gospel singer that preaches that gay people are a disease and that gay people are all child molesters. And the one that Obama refused to fire even after he was made well aware of the Pastor’s long history of gay hatred)? __________­__________­___

Who is the Anti-White, Anti-American Bigot Pastor who Obama says is his spiritual leader and mentor (Hint: It’s the same Racist Rev. who preaches that the evil White man created AIDS to destroy African Americans, and he says people should change God Bless America into GOD DAMN AMERICA)? __________­__________­______

Who is the Anti-Semite Muslim Bigot Pastor that consistently sings Obama’s praises (Hint: He preaches that Jewish people are an evil stain on humanity )? __________­__________­____

Who is the homophobic bigot Pastor that most recently endorsed Obama (Hint: He runs an Ex-Gay mental torture and “conversion” ministry - you know the kind that has left several gay kids dead or near suicidal)? _________________

Thanks for Playing, and tune in again soon because Obama’s list of Bigot Pastors continues to grow!!!!! There’s enough HATRED to go around for everyone!

answers) Donnie McClurkin, Jeremiah Wright, Louis Farrakhan, Kirbyjon Caldwell.

— Posted by Wayne "

I knew I read racist writing some where.....­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 03/16/2008

justwaitandsee) but what part of this posting did you disgaree w/? are these not his pastors obama has touted to the country??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:04 PM on 03/16/2008

where is the racism? Hell, where is one untrue statement in what I posted? Name it, prove me wrong.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 03/16/2008

And it's sad to no that you are GAY and is still willing to spread hate...

You of all people should know how this feel but it’s easier for you to join in with the very same people who would never accept you in the first place…WOW!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!

You are truly a Hypocrite

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 03/16/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 15 fans permalink

Dear Justwaitandsee,

And the gay community should be standing up for Rev. Wright because he is one of the few black pastors who believes in gay marriage and marries gay couples despite what many of his colleagues say.

By the way, have you read lately and seen how Obama has gotten pastor Rivers to begin to rethink his views? Or have you been too busy spewing venom?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 PM on 03/16/2008
- HumeSkeptic I'm a Fan of HumeSkeptic 1607 fans permalink
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AguynamedWayne,

Your patriotism is misguided. Patriotism doesn't mean that you blindly support whatever our country does and has done in the past, and to just sit there and praise it.

Real patriotism is to try and improve our country. And that improvement can come only after one recognizes and acknowledges what the problems are with our country.

The fact that the Reverend has chosen to stay in America and fight injustice is proof positive that he would like to see a better America. I consider him a much bigger patriot than someone like you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 PM on 03/16/2008

By asking God to DAMN this country. To have God Damn America, that is indeed a change. Not for the better, though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:34 PM on 03/16/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 15 fans permalink

I beg your pardon? Black Americans came here as slaves and built this country with their blood, sweat and tears with not benefit but the whip. They have contributed in every way. They have worked and they have served. Even Rev. Wright has served in the military. They have every right to be here and to say how they feel about it. How dare you somehow think that it is more yours than theirs? Free speech still exits in this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 03/16/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

A Caucasian woman's relationship with Trinity United Church Of Christ:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioaChVw_pUw&feature=related
I don't see/hear any hate. Only Love with a capital L.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:42 PM on 03/16/2008

I can find you some jews who praise the IRANIAN pesident..­.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 03/16/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

She''s a minister, and you can spin it all you want. Fact is that what the media did was WRONG. PERIOD.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 PM on 03/16/2008
- andyg I'm a Fan of andyg 5 fans permalink

she paid to attened church's for obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 03/16/2008
- HRH I'm a Fan of HRH 8 fans permalink

What the Rev said makes pretty good sense to me, a middle-aged white male. As a matter of fact, he hit the nail squarely on the head. So there. We caucasians may not like to have the truth shoved up our nose, but there it is. Deal with it. Or just do the American thing: go into denial and scream foul.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:28 PM on 03/16/2008

Muqtada Al-Sadr has done some wonderful things for his shites in the deep deep povert stricken / slums of Sadr city,Iraq .

Maybe you could lend a support and your utmost respect for him too?

he too feels ' america's chickens have come home to roost at 911'
he too feels ' his god should damn america'
he too feels ' whites/eur­opeans/wes­t works towards annhilation of his people'
he too feels ' AIDS was spread by the west'
he too feels ' 911 was justified'

Could you please---pay your utmost respect for him too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 03/16/2008

And I guess you believe the War was justified

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 03/16/2008

If you are going focus on one church you need to focus on them all

Where was Joe Scarborough of MSNBC outrage on Ferraro's comments..­.He basically endorsed those comments

Where was Joe Scarborough of MSNBC outrage on the Republican IOWA Congress Person?

Where was Joe Scarborough of MSNBC outrage on the Bigots that support John McCain

Hey Joe is your outrage only for the Black Candidate

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:37 PM on 03/16/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

Bingo! And speaking of Joe Scarborough, "....Death of Lori Klausutis

On July 20, 2001, Lori Klausutis, a 28-year-old aide to Scarborough, was found dead in his Fort Walton Beach office by a couple who had an appointment with the Congressman that morning, arranged by Klausutis. According to Scarborough, soon after her death, allegations "spread all over the Internet" that he had been involved.[­16] Controversy regarding the medical examiner and his reports, and Scarborough's announcement two months earlier that he would be resigning his newly-won Congressional seat in mid-term, contributed to the speculatio­n...."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Scarborough

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 PM on 03/16/2008
- gomonkeygo I'm a Fan of gomonkeygo 4 fans permalink

I too have no problems with what he said, speaking as another middle-aged white male. It's really hard to explain to anyone who has no knowledge of the civil rights movement or of the intellectual origins of Afro-centric Christian churches in America what Wright's style of preaching is about. There's a couple centuries of oppression and hatred here that are being worked out in a peaceful if provocative manner. (I haven't seen all of the viral videos around, I'll admit and if there is one as derogatory to homosexuals as some of the sermons and statements issued by WHITE preachers after 9/11 and Katrina, I'd have to say that such are inexcusable and definitely non-Christian, though sadly very Christian Right. I've only seen the "Goddamn America" video). It's a hard pill to swallow for a lot of people who think Amerika has never done wrong. I know lots of highly intelligent and well-educated people that let their patriotism equal blindness in this and similar matters, never allowing that this country can commit errors. Well, we do. And the sooner we are able to face up to our mistakes, the sooner we can begin to correct them. That whole "silly rights" movement was kind of all about that, folks. America is a better and stronger country when it recognizes its errors and commits to doing better by them. Hiding them, turning away from them, blinding ourselves to them only prolongs the difficulties and makes the eventual backlash even worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 03/16/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

You better watch the one where he says about Bill Clinton, "Bill Clinton did us just like he did Monica Lewinski" as he humped on the stage to entertain the children in the crowd, just sickening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/16/2008
- YellerDawg I'm a Fan of YellerDawg 29 fans permalink

Senator Obama, for your own sake, tell your church to shut up. It's not the media's fault that Reverend Wright is crazy. The new pastor has thrown down the gauntlet. Now, it's on. Don't they remember what happened to Gary Hart when he challenged the media? Not a good plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 03/16/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

Ummm, Obama is not challenging the media, Yeller. The church is, and rightfully so. What Reverend Wright says is true on many counts. THAT'S what the media should be discussing. Instead they try to knee jerk the masses because they want McCain/Clinton (same thing, as far as I'm concerned).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 03/16/2008

And I hope the Churches protest strongly against all Media involved

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 PM on 03/16/2008

Honestly, I watched the news shows this morning and I saw questioning about Wright but I saw no condemnation of the church or the congregation, just questions about Wright, how often were these kinds of things spoken. I just didn't see any attacks... There was certainly a bit of being disturbed but again the disturbance seemed to be about Obama's participation or ideology in this not whether the church or Wright has a right to speak out on these things.

I've been associated with the UCC for many years. It is an open and affirming denominations and pretty much is set up so that congregations choose their own ministries and outreach and how they interpret the gospel. the "good news" and how they do the work of being "the body of Christ in the world."

I have a hard time believing that if someone who was a spiritual mentor of a rethug would not receive the same amount of questionin­g... and certainly if this was someone Hillary Clinton had a strong tie too there would be an outcry from the Progressives, blogs and Republicans alike for her to step down.

Well, what am I saying, there already is from the blogs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 03/16/2008

"YellerDaw­g"...that says it ALL!

Yellow Dog Democrats used to call themselves Dixiecrats.

Any questions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 03/16/2008
- YellerDawg I'm a Fan of YellerDawg 29 fans permalink

Just one. Are you really that stupid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 03/16/2008
- FdeBear I'm a Fan of FdeBear 53 fans permalink

"Tell your Church to shut up"? What are you doing on this blog? Why are you taking advantage of this opportunity to express your views? What makes you think you deserve to have a voice more than others? Why are you afraid of what Reverend Wright has to say? Come on with it! But be aware, you are talking to a person who knows that church and knows that pastor and knows that what these pundits and political operatives have done is a shameful thing....a­nd another thing - the "media" is not some sacred cow -beyond critique? And what has the slander perpretrated agains Trinity UC got to do with Gary Hart? If you're looking for some frame of reference (which I doubt) buy a book and if you can't read, watch a movie on the vital role the black church (when we were allowed to worship) has played in AFrican-American history- which is YOUR history too, Shut your mouth long enough to learn something.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/16/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

The Rev. spoke for himself. Quite firmly and without any press "spin."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 PM on 03/16/2008
- DMSmith I'm a Fan of DMSmith 17 fans permalink

In all the coverage of Rev. Wright's statements, I've not ONCE heard anyone discuss whether what he says is true - they only categorize it as anti-American.

Everything I've heard him say, although controversial, has been essentially true. America HAS committed war crimes. We have killed innocent people in unjustified wars, etc.

Is this Anti-American or is it PRO-American - hoping and praying that American can and must be even better?

Look at what this church and this pastor have done to improve the lives of it's community and I then dare you to say they are anti-American. They do what they preach - attempt to make America, and their community, a better place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:26 PM on 03/16/2008

I'm asking all obama supporters who beleive in Dr wright and his preaching to please join in this lead.

I apologize if you see multiple messages from me on this. I want to make sure everyone who posts their wonderful encourgement for Dr wright , also joins this new world order passion...

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Muqtada Al-Sadr has done some wonderful things for his shites in the deep deep povert stricken / slums of Sadr city,Iraq .

Maybe you could lend a support and your utmost respect for him too?

he too feels ' america's chickens have come home to roost at 911'
he too feels ' his god should damn america'
he too feels ' whites/eur­opeans/wes­t works towards annhilation of his people'
he too feels ' AIDS was spread by the west'
he too feels ' 911 was justified'

Could you please---pay your utmost respect for him too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 PM on 03/16/2008

You go ahead and continue to be an Arrogant American..­..

It's your idiocy thinking along with your President is the reason why this country here in America and abroad is in the state that it's in

So go ahead and continue your American Arrogance

We have done right by it so far

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 03/16/2008

You are now trolling IndependentJunkie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:09 PM on 03/16/2008
- tililek I'm a Fan of tililek 3 fans permalink

How could you listen to the Rev. over a twenty year period and not have heard any of these remarks? Was he caught the only time he ever made such comments?

He has a right to say what he believes, and I have the right to think I find it disagreeable and wrong.

Don't know what he's done on any venue, only just heard what he said. Why not tell me more?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 PM on 03/16/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

AIDS was invented to kill Blacks, I don't think that is true

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:56 PM on 03/16/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 15 fans permalink

Probably not, but when people talked about the Tuskeegee experiment they were called crazy too. President Clinton after decades had to apologise.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 03/16/2008
- MichelleB I'm a Fan of MichelleB 7 fans permalink

After reading the Newsweek piece, I have the utmost respect for Dr. Wright who made it his life long passion to fight against social injustice, including for gay and lesbians. It is sad such a person is being crucified by the democratic party, a sad day!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 03/16/2008
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Being crucified by the democratic party, did I miss something, I thought it's the reporting of Rev. Wright by the MSM.

Democratic victory in November!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 03/16/2008

Muqtada Al-Sadr has done some wonderful things for his shites in the deep deep povert stricken / slums of Sadr city,Iraq .

Maybe you could lend a support and your utmost respect for him too?

he too feels ' america's chickens have to roost at 911'
he too feels ' his god should damn america'
he too feels ' whites/eur­opeans/wes­t works towards annhilation of his people'
he too feels ' AIDS was spread by the west'
he too feels ' 911 was justified'

Could you please---pay your utmost respect for him too?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 03/16/2008
- SLone08 I'm a Fan of SLone08 5 fans permalink

Wright's comments have some truth behind them (except for the AIDS thing). America isn't perfect. Instead of screaming about how un-American they are, we would do better to try and understand where he is coming from.

The refusal of people like you to do so is a perfect example of the type of knee-jerk reaction to any criticism of America that has become so common these days. What's so wrong in trying to examine what we may have done to cause such hatred for us in other countries? You don't really think they hate us just because we are a democracy do you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:48 PM on 03/16/2008

excuse me but lets step back and take a breath?
How is Dr. Wright being crucified by the Democratic Party?
Please point out one instance where the Democratic Party is going after Dr. Wright?

the Democratic party didn't put these video's together. ABC purchased them from what I understand.
Where is the Democratic entereing into this.
Please explain.
This is a ridiculous statement.

There have been many instances of the Dem's eating their own, particularly Progressive Dem's but this is not one of those instances.

However keep it up I'm sure you can enflame enough people for it to happen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/16/2008
- tubette I'm a Fan of tubette 8 fans permalink
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Senator Obama is running such a dignified race and this stuff is just going to get worse. Now that Rove is helping McCain, well we might as well brace ourselves for much worse sound bites if Obama wins the nomination.

I agree with Manx.... we are being played by the media as usual.....

Does anyone know when he gave this sermon?? Was is right after Katrina when emotions were very high???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 PM on 03/16/2008
- uglybetty I'm a Fan of uglybetty 6 fans permalink

Dec 25/07

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 03/16/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

tubette --- it was a few seconds taken out of context from a few sermons sliced and diced and played endlessly on the msm -- ALL channels!!!! Shame on them!! To think that I'm actually paying for propaganda, I'm very seriously considering canceling my cable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 03/16/2008

what has been playing on the media is i think parts of three different sermons. ONe the week after 9/11, one in Dec 2007, and another that I don't know the date of. But, I believe you can find more ofthem on YouTube. Because I have not yet seen his remarks about AIDS played on TV yet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 03/16/2008
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I read the coments to the original article and was disheartened. People are so relieved that they can now express their anxiety about Obama's African father. They finally have some socially appropriate things to say. Not a lot of reflection going on about why Rev. Wright would say what he says.

Does anyone know the name of the churches McCain and Clinton are members of? No, I did not think so.

I'm so distressed. The bigots are coming out of the woodwork.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 03/16/2008

Obama's church defends itself:

WE'RE NOT RACIST - WE JUST HATE AMERICA (oh yeah, and WHITE people)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:50 PM on 03/16/2008

Ferraro...­Case Closed nothing else needs to be said

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 03/16/2008
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Anybody buying this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 03/16/2008
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According to some people, in order to be patriotic you have to believe that America is always pure in motive and action; how dare anyone point out otherwise. The essence of the one sermon was that America's hands aren't as clean as we like to delude ourselves into believing. And that God doesn't necessarily look upon our actions as favorably as we'd like to think. For some people, a notion like this is the height of unpatriotic, anti-american thought. Of course, Rev. Wright doesn't have to sugar coat this message for his congregation, so he expresses his point by saying "God Damn America for...", and people go, "Oh my , he wants God to damn America! That's anti-american. That's hateful". Over the past few days, the totality his quote is completely missed or distorted.

"God Damn America for killing inocent people"; is there anyone so delude to claim that America hasn't killed any innocent people. And as many justifications as we can come up with for why this is necessary, Rev. Wright's point is that those justification probably mean nothing to God.

"God Damn America for treating citizens as less than human"; again, is there anyone who can truthfully claim that American hasn't done this. We live in a country that views black life as less valuable, deserving of harsher treatment, and deserving of less consideration. This isn't something that went on in this country decades ago, this is the way it is now. Think not? Ask yourself, over the past twelve months, how many reports have you seen in the national news media concerning missing black women(or any woman darker than a pair of chinos)? I can't remember a single one. I've seen plenty concerning missing white women, though. Why is that? Black women don't go missing? I don't think so. These are business decisions by the media outlets that know that most of mainstream(code for white) America doesn't give a crap about missing black women. Therefore black women are view as less valuable, worthy of less consideration than white women. This notion about blacks in general, is ingrained in American society, even to the point that some black people buy into it. That's a fact of life here in American, and there are many excuses and "justifications" for why this is. Again, Rev. Wright's point is that God doesn't look favorably upon this type of notion, and doesn't care about our justifications.

I want to hear the entire sermon; I'm tired of people with agendas and video editing software trying to shape my perception of the man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 03/16/2008
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Very well expressed.

I recall one missing Black woman, Stepha Henry. You can google her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 03/16/2008

Right On Gogetter!

Look at the way America is treating tax paying, America loving, civic minded gay citizens, gay families and gay couples right now. We are treated as "threats" and "cancers" and "aliens" EVEN by legislative Representatives like Sally Kern who are supposed to represent US.

The rightwing and religious right has made us and our families ENEMY ONE in this country, blaming us for everything from failed straight marriages to Hurricanes and Earthquakes. Somehow though, it's OK to snuggle up to religious leaders who make THESE inflammatory, outrageous and COMPLETELY basely claims.

I COMPLETELY understand and relate to Rev. Wright's frustration and indignation. I share it. Not because I HATE America but because I LOVE America and expect my country to live up to it's creed, it's promise, it's constitution and it's vision.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 PM on 03/16/2008
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