AP's Fournier Excoriates Obama For 'Arrogance'

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First Posted: 03-17-08 03:42 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his "On Deadline" column, fires a double-barreled shot squarely at Senator Barack Obama, labeling him "arrogant," "cocky," and "ooz[ing] a sense of entitlement."

...there's a line smart politicians don't cross -- somewhere between "I'm qualified to be president" and "I'm born to be president." Wherever it lies, Barack Obama better watch his step.


He's bordering on arrogance.

The grist for Fournier's mill seems to stem from an assortment of quotes the candidate has made on the stump: such as "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there" and "It will light upon you...You will experience an epiphany. And you will say to yourself, I have to vote for Barack. I have to do it." And, indeed, it should be said, a line gets crossed once you refer to yourself in the third person. As a general rule, that's the province of Brazilian soccer players and Saturday Night Live impersonations of Bob Dole.

Fournier, being minimally charitable, notes that Obama's statements involve "a certain amount of tongue-in-cheekiness to such remarks -- almost as if Obama doesn't want to take his adoring crowds and political ascent too seriously." Some of the original reporting done on those quotes bear that out: Newsweek's Andrew Romano, for example, assessed Obama's "epiphany" remark at the time of its utterance as an attempt to "both [lampoon] and slyly [encourage] the perception." Similarly, one commenter on MSNBC's First Read offered:

Just to add context because you guys will not. This part in Fournier's article, a few months later, he said, "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there." referred to a Nightline interview when he was joking with the reporter.

Still, Fournier out to lower a boom or two:

Privately, aides and associates of Obama tell stories about a boss who can be aloof and ungracious. He holds firmly to views and doesn't like to be challenged, traits that President Bush packaged and sold under the "resolute" brand in the 2004 election. For Bush, those qualities proved to be dangerous in a time of war and in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.


If arrogance is a display of self-importance and superiority, Obama earns the pejorative every time he calls his pre-invasion opposition to the war in Iraq an act of courage.

Still, don't expect the Clinton camp to cite Fournier's analysis too widely, because he takes the time to brutalize Clinton, as well:

That may seem unfair to a candidate who's running against Clinton, the former first lady who is the model of overbearing pride. This is a woman, after all, who claims experience from her eight years as first lady but won't release her White House records; who trails Obama in delegates but deigned to suggest he'd be her running mate; and who has more baggage than Samsonite yet says Obama lacks "vetting."

"But voters expect arrogance from Clinton and her husband, Bill," Fournier says, "It's part of the package. It's a 90s-thing."

In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his...
In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his...
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I think Ron is absolutely correct. Especially about Obama "oozing, a sense of entitlement." Ron was the founder of a great discussion site called Hot Soup. It is no longer up, but it was a great site. Ron dropped it for the upcoming elections.

If you are reading this Ron, how's it going over at AP??? I used to post on Hot Soup, under the name emersonssoul. Take care Ron and never mind the bollocks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 03/18/2008

Huh? What you see as arrogance is more properly identified as chutzpah, which both Obama and Clinton have in abundance, otherwise they wouldn't undertake to compete to lead a country that has been so royally screwed by years of Republican rule. It's gonna take chutzpah and a whole lot more to get America back on track. Thank God for the chutzpah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/18/2008

My view on Obama: When he first made the speech that catapulted him into the national spotlight, I got chills (good vibes) and saw great promise and had hope that he truly would transcend the divisive issues and I had been his supporter until the last few months and especially the last few weeks when all of the Rev. Wright hubub erupted. Unfortunately, what has been coming out of Obama's mouth recently does sound naive to me and it has nothing to do with his past experience or professional qualifications. It has to do with him sounding like a spin-meister who is trying to whitewash his poor judgment with the excuse that he never heard or wasn't aware of repeated sermons with anti-American inflammatory rhetoric from his pastor of 20 years.

That is what I am calling naive because it makes me ask myself, "If he was so clueless about that personal issue, why should I trust his judgment about more presidential issues? If he was so naive to think that this kind of stuff wouldn't come out or wouldn't matter and didn't take steps to prevent this from blowing up in the media as it has, then how can I trust him to handle foreign governments and people from other places that hate us?"

Honestly, I gave the guy more credit. I thought he was smarter than this. I am truly disappointed. I wish he had turned out to be the candidate who could represent all of America, not just a minority population. Skin color is not important to me. It is obvious to me now that perhaps he only joined the church and kept connected to it so as to use the congregation and Wright's influence to further his political gain. Otherwise, why would he stay friends with and attend a church if he doesn't share the same views and support what is being preached?

To me, this is very sad and could have been avoided. Oprah left the church. He should have done the same a long time ago.

Gandhi said "be the change you want to see in the world." I wish Obama had done that.

That's all, I don't mean to offend anyone. I am very saddened by this whole mess and I feel it is extremely naive of a man who seeks the most powerful position in the world to think he is ready when he can't even influence or control his own back yard! I agree that it smells like "entitlement" and is highly suspect and arrogant.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 03/18/2008
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Sure. That's why you have no history of supporting Obama on this site, you just suddenly appear today with your cut and paste spam, professing disappointment and distrust. What a crock.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 03/18/2008
- batspaul I'm a Fan of batspaul 19 fans permalink

Mlcruz has taken the bait, swallowed it hook, line, and sinker. So the pastor of Obama's church on occasion was guilty of "inflammatory, anti-American" rhetoric? The key word is there is rhetoric. Now Obama's opponents, unable to fault the candidate, go after his pastor.

Many of us, most in this country, perhaps, do not hold with everything that our churches or their individual preachers espouse. If every Catholic who doesn't believe the use of contraception is a sin stopped attending Mass this Sunday, you'd see some pretty empty Easter services.

And again, there's that tired "judgment" argument, generally lobbed by people who don't have real issues to argue. You can't say that Obama holds the views you find objectionable, so it's about his "judgment," in not quitting his church because he didn't agree with everything the pastor said.

FInally, MLCruz says, "Honestly, I gave the guy more credit." I don't believe a word of that. If you caved so easily on this non-issue, you've just ben waiting to have your excuse to follow other leanings. Which is fine. Just don't start with "Honestly..."

In the words of Ghandi that you quote, Obama IS the the change we want to see in the world. With a little more faith, intellectual honesty, and loyalty, you could be part of that change by supporting him, instead of collapsing at the first bit of guilt-by-association mud-slinging.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 AM on 03/18/2008
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i find it problematic that you believe a man running for president "IS the change we want to see in the world."
WE are the ones who define change, not a man, not a presidential candidate. very few presidents have seized and delivered the change we want to see in the world.
he is a politician, he is not Ghandi, MLK or Mandela, he is a candidate for a high office, political to the soles of his feet, calculating, smart, aggresive as are all of them.
he is not leading a movement, he is running for office. you can not compare him to those individuals who have sacrificed their lives to achieve a goal. you belittle the achievements of such brave individuals.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 03/18/2008

Isn't Obama the one who talks about how "words matter," and so forth? As you rightly pointed out, the key word is "rhetoric." Either we accept it or we don't. Are words all of a sudden meaningless, harmless and forgivable when they're not so favorable to Obama?

Those against Clinton are happy to guilt her by association to anybody and everybody. Ferraro's words are her words. Bill's words are her words. But Wright - oh, heaven's no! He doesn't speak for Obama. He's only his pastor and mentor who until fairly recently had an official position in the campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 03/18/2008
- lawyeredup I'm a Fan of lawyeredup 6 fans permalink

Before the New Hamphaire primary, Bill Clinton use the word "fairy Tale" in referring to how the media have giving Barack Obama a free ride; his word was twisted to mean he was referring to the Obama candidatcy -- which he was not but, he was label a racist, ( this for a man that was once call the first black president of our time), I guess time do change.

Hillary said exactly the same thing Obama said in his speech today -- that, Dr. King himself, in the hey days of the civil right movement, realizes the needs for alliances between white and blacks i.e. Johnson -- whom Dr King rode to the mountain top; she was accuse of minimazing the accomplishment of Dr. King, therefore, she must be a racist!.

But here we are today in the most obvious case of black racism; Obama could not bring himself to take a stand. If I recall, today speech was prompted by the anti-Americanism of Obama's pastor (Pastor Wright), on the surface and no thought, it was a great speech -- but did he really took a stand? NO!

He blames his pastor for he's views, he blames society for making him that way; then, he blames America -- he told us the reason why he couldn't brought himself to disavowing his pastor -- and this was doing so will mean disavowing his own white grandmother who so loved him but was affraid of the blackman who walked pass her on the street and whom have use words of racial epithet that makes him cringe...... isn't that sweet!. Okay! so he excusses his white grandmother so now, he must excusses his black pastor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:51 PM on 03/18/2008

Hey mlcruz, how much did that bottle blonde from New York via Arkansas, pay you to talk your trash? Unfounded trash, at that? Man, has she got inside your head -or WHAT? Rememberrrrrr, mlcruz, the Mind is like a parachute: It only works when it's open!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 PM on 03/18/2008

This opinion is down right silly. The measure of a man is not determined by his contacts, if that were the case McCain would have been banned from politics since the Keating Affair, and poor Hillary would have been deemed undesirable by any one of at least ten missteps.

Obama is the smartest, most modest, and sensitive person to run for the presidency in the last fifty years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:08 PM on 03/18/2008
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Yes. I agree. The obvious should prevail. Obama is a genuine opportunity that American's sorely need. I will be sad beyond measure if we lose this chance at greatness. Our country is dying and we must do everything we can to avoid that end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:21 AM on 03/19/2008

Simple--when did We slam a man for honesty! When has any person in America have the Odasity to talk about race or color or gender? Do we want a lier or someone who tells you how it is? Ms clinton has changed her view, speechs and etc. to please the people of states an cultures. mr. Obama says what he means, and is transparent--------when has Hillary done that for any one?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 03/18/2008
- CjAzure I'm a Fan of CjAzure 4 fans permalink

Fournier obviously has no sense of humor. I have met Obama on several occasions and he could not have been more gracious and self-effacing. He went out of his way to thank his volunteers, take pictures with us, and have a chat. He is the most natural of people. Fournier seems a bit, well..... arrogant!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 03/18/2008
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Exactly. I love it when preening media personalities get paranoid by self-effacing behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 03/18/2008

Fournier? Pronounced in French: Foney, as in Phoney, as in Hack, as in misguided relative of someone that got him his job and isn't sincere enough to deal with facts. No, the arrogance is not a 90's thing but it is a Clinton thing. Or, don't you remember Janet Reno? Now, that was arrogance at its highest level dictated by guess who? Yes, Bill, Im a Faubus Fan, and Hillary, I used to be a Republican not too long ago..... Fournier, you DO belong in the paper business -as in recycling center, somewhere. least there, your racism and signifying won't matter -as much.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:15 PM on 03/18/2008
- rojo7449 I'm a Fan of rojo7449 9 fans permalink

I hear the exact same thing from those who have met every one of the candidates (those still in the race, and those already eliminated). What else could you possibly expect when they are out with their supporters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:41 PM on 03/18/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

I heard stories where Obama had promised to met with his volunteers then he blew them off. They heard him drive off and never a thank you. What a great guy. NOT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 AM on 03/19/2008

Says more about Fournier than Obama. My guess is that he's playing the role of the contrarian in order to get some attention. Attacking Obama is a cheap, lowdown way to go about getting attention, but when you've got little else going for you I guess you'll try anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 03/18/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Telling the truth about Obama is a cheap??????

Yah right!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:57 AM on 03/19/2008

Doesn't matter how you spin it....Obama's balloon is quickly deflating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:23 AM on 03/18/2008

You wish. I just saw a recent CNN poll that shows Obama over the fifty percent mark for the first time. Obama 52, Hillary 45.

The only people who see Rev Wright as a problem are bigots who don't want to see things from the perspective of the black church. And those people were never going to support Obama anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:56 AM on 03/18/2008
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bossjimgettys and PhyloSeFiser....
"Guess you missed this from the same Huff Page this Blog is on...
Pastor Jeremiah Wright, who has become part of the national political dialogue in recent days, is viewed favorably by 8% of voters nationwide. A Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey found that 58% have an unfavorable view of the Pastor whose controversial comments have created new challenges for Barack Obama's Presidential campaign....

Most voters, 56%, said Wright's comments made them less likely to vote for Obama. That figure includes 44% of Democrats. Just 11% of voters say they are more likely to vote for Obama because of Wright's comments."
Ooooooooooopsies! Maybe the tide is turning....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 AM on 03/18/2008

what the FUCK does the "black church" have to do with GOVERNMENT?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 03/18/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

So everyone who thinks Wrights remarks were racists and anti-american are bigots?

And you wonder why milllions upon millions of people are not voting for Obama.

You Obama people lie day and night about Clinton and her supporters. Sick, sick lies.

And Wright has only 8% approval rating. 8%..... So your speaking a load.

And that CNN poll is only one poll. And it is way off.

NBC/WSJ 47 HILLARY OBAMA 43

How do you like those numbers!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:04 AM on 03/19/2008

Yup, ahead in popular vote, number of states won and pledged delegates, and picking up dozens of superdelegates since February while Hillary is at a standstill... yeah, he's imploding alright.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 03/18/2008

Not to mention record breaking fund raising by his supporters.

But I guess all of what we just said = deflating because the TV tells him so. Aw to be delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 AM on 03/18/2008
- swanky I'm a Fan of swanky 6 fans permalink

Barry Dunham has got a lot of work ahead of him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 03/18/2008

Flyguy, isn't that another name for, WINGNUT? Meantime, it's NOT O'BAMA'S Balloon but perhaps you should try beano, and Get over Yourself, Wingnut!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:24 PM on 03/18/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Obama is going down in flames. As a reporter on CNN ( of all places said tonight) Obama hasn't had the big M since before Texas, Ohio, RI and Vermont. Can you say president Hillary Clinton!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 AM on 03/19/2008
- rubicon101 I'm a Fan of rubicon101 7 fans permalink

"yes Hillary, you're likable enough!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 AM on 03/18/2008
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 101 fans permalink
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That was hilarious, as well as apt.

Likeability matters in US presidential politics, because unlikeable candidates lose elections.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 03/18/2008
- MrWinky I'm a Fan of MrWinky 8 fans permalink

Lol. No wonder why the press sucks. Two comments made in jest, and Fournier thinks this is arrogance.

I think the word he was looking for was "uppity."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 AM on 03/18/2008
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Yeah, it's funny how these racists are projecting. They just can't help themselves. They see arrogance and entitlement in dry humor.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 AM on 03/18/2008
- kirafa I'm a Fan of kirafa 3 fans permalink

So, once again a journalist says something against Obama and against Hillary, as well, and what is your response? He must be a racist. Tell me, is he a sexist also, since he doesn't like Hillary either? If you chose, because of the issues, to vote for someone other than Obama, does that make you an instant racist? This is becoming ridiculous at best, if someone says anything negative, they are racist. I am one-half American Indian and I don't blame anyone for anything, I don't hate the white man, even though I used to go visit my grandparents on a reservation. It was up to me to do something with my life and I worked my ass off and got through college without any assistance from anyone.

I campaigned for Obama for six months and become disenchanted with him after looking hard at the issues we face.

We are in a mess in the US and I chose experience over brilliant oratory skills. Now it appears, we are also going to have to add civil unrest into the bag of tricks that face our incoming president, just great.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 AM on 03/18/2008
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Is a white male journalist, exclusively racist, or exclusively misogynistic? Couldn't the journalist be both? Your logic is flawed. You want to believe what this journalist says about Obama and discount what he says about Clinton. Do you even know if the journalist is a conservative? That would make him despise both candidates equally, and make his words meaningless. The fact is, people are making assumptions about Obama's character - using the word arrogant - when he is nothing more than humorous. It's a dry humor that not everybody gets, but he's not the least bit arrogant. Clinton supporters love to call Obama arrogant, because they are angry at him. They feel he is messing up Clinton's chances to win the nomination. Well, you should look at it this way: He may be messing up her chances to win the nomination, but that's going to be a good thing, because there is no way that more than half the voters in the country are ever going to cast their vote for Hillary Clinton. So unless you want McCain, in the end, you'll be glad if Obama is the nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/18/2008
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"We are in a mess in the US and I chose experience over brilliant oratory skills."

You are not choosing experience. You are settling for security.

Hillary has been on a single-minded mission to ridicule our trust in Barack's abilities as a leader and an organizer. And many people are insecure enough to give in to ridicule. It's not so much that they distrust Barack Obama as they distrust themselves.

We need a true agent of change in the White House. Hillary and McCain are owned. If we settle for either, they are going to take our insecurity straight to the bank.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 03/18/2008
- swanky I'm a Fan of swanky 6 fans permalink

How about snide, condescending, effete, snobbish, patronizing, and sophomoric. Are those words more to your liking?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:45 PM on 03/18/2008
- Beowoof I'm a Fan of Beowoof 10 fans permalink

Great article. Obama's just a jerk! Arrogant too. You've got to judge him by the one's closest to him. Now I've got to look up all of Fournier's in depth pieces.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 AM on 03/18/2008

... and HRC has nothing to hide regarding her sources of income or earmarks, either... as far as I know :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 03/18/2008
- rojo7449 I'm a Fan of rojo7449 9 fans permalink

What was it that caused you to think earmarks were such a big deal? Something you just knew, or were you influenced and led by the media on that? First you should investigate the entire history of the earmarks, and how by NOT utilizing that technique, yours will be the state that is left out of the funding chain. Illinois residents should be demanding an explanation for why Obama didn't take better care of them. Until this particular practice is deemed illegal, it's pretty much a non-issue. I've never seen it as one of the Top 10 issues the people want their candidate to speak to. Well, not until the Obama campaign decided it might work to further blemish Hillary Clinton, and they could no longer pin the race card on her camp.

BTW, Hillary's list of earmarks was all over this site on Sunday. Not just the earmarks, but the contributions the companies who benefitted by them gave to her campaign. Of course, that, too, was out of focus because those companies also gave to every other campaign, and probably even more, but as long as we can use a little slice of the truth to defame our opponent, why not?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 03/18/2008

Ron's a pretty cool guy. He used to run a political forum called Hot Soup. It was a great site, where you could create your own, "subjects," for a thread. Friday nights where internet DJ time. Lots of fun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:03 PM on 03/18/2008

That's the best you've got? He's arrogant?

And this is based on information from former aides, but not on anything we have witnessed?

He is running against Hillary "only the states I've won count" Clinton and potentially John "My friend" McCain and of that group Obama is the arrogant one?

I need to get a job at AP. Apparently you can just write anything and get paid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 AM on 03/18/2008

Actually you can do that right here on PuffPost!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 03/18/2008
- swanky I'm a Fan of swanky 6 fans permalink

Actually, only the states she HAS won count. Who gives a flying S%^&*T about the flyover or southern states? They exist to suck up my tax dollars and remind me why I believe in evolution and reality. I laughed my ass off when Kerry and Kennedy and Patrick got pummeled by HRC in their own state. Every state he's won, with the exception of Illinois, Vermont, Minnesota, and DC is a Red State. He's done in the GE. Hillary's imperfect, and might lose, but at least she'll get dirty and fight. Barry Dunham is punching above his weight. The sad thing is that I think in 12 or 16 years, when we really need him, he'd be seasoned and ready. He's going to go down as the biggest loser since Mondale. Then, maybe, we can get rid of you crazies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 03/18/2008

I see...

So now Obama, who ISN'T the candidate that started his campaign as the "Inevitable" Presidency, is too arrogant?

While the candidate who CERTAINLY DID kick off the campaign with that line, is being, what? Humble Hillary?

I don't see Obama as being too arrogant, but I certainly think that there are those who would like to "Cut him down to size" or believe he is "Too big for his britches."
But I don't think that Obama has ever presented himself as the "inevitable candidate." I think this yet another case of projection.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 03/18/2008
- JABean I'm a Fan of JABean 3 fans permalink

Finally, someone brave enough to discuss Sen Obama's many flaws. His followers have drank so much of the Kool-Aid that they can see nothing. Whenever someone has the audacity to make a critical statement about Obama, they simply attack and trash in robotic unison like a bunch of storm troopers. The majority of the posted comments make that abundantly clear.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:04 AM on 03/18/2008

Too true. The default response is to attack with expletives and perjorative terms rather than facts. Where are the sound, compelling arguments?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 03/18/2008

Yeah, Hillary supporters to seem to be allergic to facts. They have that cult like blindness that prevents them from seeing her flaws or her opponents strengths. especially on the issues of ethical transparency, regarding tax returns, WH papers and schedules, etc. back ing up those 35 years should be easy as pie with all that evidence lying around.

I don't know why their only recourse is to demean and insult Obama supporters. But you both are not like that, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 03/18/2008
- radlib1 I'm a Fan of radlib1 6 fans permalink

It's not about racism. It's about jealousy and frustration and envy for Mr. Fournier. You see, despite being white (I assume), he only managed to get a degree from the University of Detroit, which hardly happens to be a bastion of intellectual excellence. Meanwile , Barack Obama, despite being poor and black, graduated from Columbia University and was President of the Harvard Law Review.
Freudian envy for your intellectual superiors, Mr. Fournier? If your brain is smaller and your intellectual achievements less fruitful, will you always be jealous? Why call it "arrogance" when Mr. Obama clearly has superior intellectual and educational bona fides than you?
You are a nothing, a nobody. Barack Obama is running for President and is clearly intellectually qualified (unlike our current bozo, the Yale "legacy" Bush).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 AM on 03/18/2008

please don't call us Kool-Aid drinkers. it's just rude and tiresome. i have read both his books, and was still not behind him at all - until Hillary lost my vote.

yes, i was a staunch Hillary supporter until fairly recently.

btw, anyone who has the nerve to stand up and say, "i want to be president" is someone with more than an average sense of self, with more than a goodly portion of confidence in themselves.

almost as much confidence as it takes to call a 35-year marriage "thirty-five years of experience" and to assert that she brought peace to Northern Ireland but couldn't get a comprehensive healthcare plan in motion or even on track.

i am not an "Obamabot" or a Kool-Aid drinker, or a prius-driver or any of the other pejoratives which people have used to refer to Obama supporters.

please don't be so cruel and unseemly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 AM on 03/18/2008
- radlib1 I'm a Fan of radlib1 6 fans permalink

It's not about racism. It's about jealousy and frustration and envy for Mr. Fournier. You see, despite being white (I assume), he only managed to get a degree from the University of Detroit, which hardly happens to be a bastion of intellectual excellence. Meanwile , Barack Obama, despite being poor and black, graduated from Columbia University and was President of the Harvard Law Review.

Freudian envy for your intellectual superiors, Mr. Fournier? If your brain is smaller and your intellectual achievements less fruitful, will you always be jealous? Why call it "arrogance" when Mr. Obama clearly has superior intellectual and educational bona fides than you?

You are a nothing, a nobody. Barack Obama is running for President and is clearly intellectually qualified (unlike our current bozo, the Yale "legacy" C-minus student Bush). THE UNIVERSITY OF DETROIT?! And you expect us take you seriously? How about the Community College of the Small Finger Lakes?

Talk about ignorance and arrogance!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 03/18/2008

"Many" flaws? I see "He's arrogant, like the time he said...when he was joking..." Yeah, bring it on! /endsarcasm

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:20 AM on 03/18/2008
- larstein I'm a Fan of larstein 15 fans permalink
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All these comments prove that McCain will probably win. Democrats own their hate and hate their own. Hysteria beats reason everytime, French revolution wot...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 AM on 03/18/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

Its the economy stupid! McCain doesn't understand economics. Hysteria is wall street. You won't see a republican controlled congress or president for the next 30 years, maybe more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 AM on 03/18/2008
- sparkandy I'm a Fan of sparkandy 29 fans permalink
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Unless McCain seriously screws up, you're right. The Dems are positively addicted to shooting themselves in the foot. And here they go again. I'm an Independent and I'd never vote for Obama. I'm not too sure about Clinton either. And McCain sucks. What's the country coming to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 03/18/2008

Uh, what are you doing to help matters? A couple of cynical remarks about the Dems two remaining candidates is supposed to uplift the party?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:02 AM on 03/18/2008

if obama gets the nod, you can vote nader for irony with me! our vote's wasted anyway.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 03/18/2008
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"own their hate"? Eh? They own their hate... I'll take some time today and try to figure that one out.

Trust me, if the Republicans of this country had anything resembling free choice in their candidates, there would be tumult on their side too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 03/18/2008
- kittyma I'm a Fan of kittyma 16 fans permalink

The Republicans goal is to spread their hate throughout the country and throughout the world. Isn't it amazing how Reps see anything resembling free speech and discussion as a no-no!??? It has reached the point where free speech and discussion to them is "hate"!!!

Give me free speech, and open discussion any day, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 03/19/2008
- JDWPS I'm a Fan of JDWPS 2 fans permalink

It seems that an article like this by Fournier is only to express his personal issues with a candidate, not to examine policy issues. This appears to be a desperate attempt to make something out of nothing for his own gain - attention. In this period of nothingness with this election because Hillary is defeated if the thing plays out fairly, media people are inane if not insane in their efforts to say something that will sell.
It really stinks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 AM on 03/18/2008
- fignozzle I'm a Fan of fignozzle 15 fans permalink
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what an arrogant attempt to make us think that it is OBAMA that is the arrogant one.

he is just trying to be a leader.
to lead US,

trying to compare him to bush??????????????????

ru kidding me????

i think you will see, once he is sworn in, that we are a nation, that must unite.

what are you reading????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 AM on 03/18/2008
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