AP's Fournier Excoriates Obama For 'Arrogance'

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First Posted: 03-17-08 03:42 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his "On Deadline" column, fires a double-barreled shot squarely at Senator Barack Obama, labeling him "arrogant," "cocky," and "ooz[ing] a sense of entitlement."

...there's a line smart politicians don't cross -- somewhere between "I'm qualified to be president" and "I'm born to be president." Wherever it lies, Barack Obama better watch his step.


He's bordering on arrogance.

The grist for Fournier's mill seems to stem from an assortment of quotes the candidate has made on the stump: such as "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there" and "It will light upon you...You will experience an epiphany. And you will say to yourself, I have to vote for Barack. I have to do it." And, indeed, it should be said, a line gets crossed once you refer to yourself in the third person. As a general rule, that's the province of Brazilian soccer players and Saturday Night Live impersonations of Bob Dole.

Fournier, being minimally charitable, notes that Obama's statements involve "a certain amount of tongue-in-cheekiness to such remarks -- almost as if Obama doesn't want to take his adoring crowds and political ascent too seriously." Some of the original reporting done on those quotes bear that out: Newsweek's Andrew Romano, for example, assessed Obama's "epiphany" remark at the time of its utterance as an attempt to "both [lampoon] and slyly [encourage] the perception." Similarly, one commenter on MSNBC's First Read offered:

Just to add context because you guys will not. This part in Fournier's article, a few months later, he said, "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there." referred to a Nightline interview when he was joking with the reporter.

Still, Fournier out to lower a boom or two:

Privately, aides and associates of Obama tell stories about a boss who can be aloof and ungracious. He holds firmly to views and doesn't like to be challenged, traits that President Bush packaged and sold under the "resolute" brand in the 2004 election. For Bush, those qualities proved to be dangerous in a time of war and in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.


If arrogance is a display of self-importance and superiority, Obama earns the pejorative every time he calls his pre-invasion opposition to the war in Iraq an act of courage.

Still, don't expect the Clinton camp to cite Fournier's analysis too widely, because he takes the time to brutalize Clinton, as well:

That may seem unfair to a candidate who's running against Clinton, the former first lady who is the model of overbearing pride. This is a woman, after all, who claims experience from her eight years as first lady but won't release her White House records; who trails Obama in delegates but deigned to suggest he'd be her running mate; and who has more baggage than Samsonite yet says Obama lacks "vetting."

"But voters expect arrogance from Clinton and her husband, Bill," Fournier says, "It's part of the package. It's a 90s-thing."

In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his...
In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his...
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But he's not really joking, is he? I've heard some call Obama's campaign the campaign of identity (African -Americans) and the campaign of the lucky (someone close to me calls in the "revenge of the Lucky" ), that is people who don't have to worry about taking care of their parents, their kids, etc. (I'm talking about the WAY OVER $50K crowd that supports Obama over Clinton for, well, no real good reason.

His campaign has been a little to smarmy, a lttile too ironic, a little to rigid and tense to me for a long, long time. And now I have to deal with the company he keeps . . . it's not easy being a Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:32 AM on 03/18/2008

I just can't help but think McCain will be our next president..Right or wrong~~~It's looking as tho Obama/Clinton will not be able to keep all their past or even their present, acquaintances
from loosing their campaign for them. Obama's preacher nailed him! what an asshole! Clinton,she's
so very unappealing and can't help it. She's such a smart woman however.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:17 AM on 03/18/2008

I don't see Obama being able to say or do anything that gets many many Americans past what his minister said. They were not his words but he just lost the support of many independants & bordeline Republicans with that most unfortuanate outing. And the way Obama KNEW this could happen bothers me .... like he himself was not offended by the ministers remarks but he knew that others would be. NOT GOOD OBAMA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 AM on 03/18/2008

If you knew anything about Zen, you would know how foolish it is to run away with ideas based on very limited information.

Is it possible that the Rev, while making a few sensational statements, actually has done far more good for his community than you realize? Is it possible that Obama excused those few outrageous statements in order to join in on all the good the church was doing?

Your foolish comments bring shame to the name of Zen.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 03/18/2008
- Jey I'm a Fan of Jey 7 fans permalink

Your post sounds like your elated that the preacher 'NAILED HIM!' Rev. Wright was speaking of Blacks on welfare. Read the entire sermon lady. Someone has taken what he said out of context...imagine that! But here's what I love about Americans...we believe anything, and I mean anything that Fox News, CNN, MSNBC tells them. My gosh God gave you a brain use it for crying out loud. What a stupid America we are. I'm not saying what Rev. Wright said was okay but for God's sake they were just words. What about BushCo and the many criminal acts he's been involved in for the last seven and half years? Nothing? Almost 4,000 dead U.S. SOLDIERS and your okay with that but get bent out of shape about a black preacher? What a bunch of hypocrites we are. I'm white. I'm female. And I'm voting for Barack! Even better would be a Barack/Hillary ticket. That would really piss the republiCONS off wouldn't it? Poor Marylee someday you too will get the bigger picture. Your lightbulb will go off...maybe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 03/18/2008
- LAcarlito I'm a Fan of LAcarlito 7 fans permalink

My guess is that Mr Fournier know from what he speaks. I'll guess he is a very arrogant person. To waste time writing an article about this? I hope he can provide better insight on the candidates next time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:06 AM on 03/18/2008

My question is how long did he sit around thinking about it? Writing this article I mean. Or well, not so much writing THIS article in particuluar, just an article that would have lots of comments flying around it.

And well, playing devil's advocate entices readers. Just ask Ann Coulter. She's built an entire career out of figuring out what to say to piss off the most people.

Better tell her to watch her step now that this guy is on the scene:)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 03/18/2008
- Mrrar I'm a Fan of Mrrar 3 fans permalink

I find it funny that man even has a job, when he so obviously doesn't understand.. Well, his job.

"We" verus "Me."

Every speech Obama gives is about "We." Every speech Clinton gives is about "me."

She openly mocked this, "Yes She Can" her supporters chanted after the texas loss. "Yes She can."

That kind of cult-figure mindset that the Clintons encourage is difficult for me to understand, and that it's not obvious to Fournier illustrates the man needs to reconsider careers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/18/2008
- fignozzle I'm a Fan of fignozzle 15 fans permalink
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thank you mrrar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 AM on 03/18/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

He's just jealous Barrack can use words better than he can.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 03/18/2008

Did anyone hear Fournier just call Obama an "UPPITY NIGGER?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 03/18/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

You just made Hannity, O'Reilly, Coulter, and Limbaugh smile from ear to ear. That's their favorite expression.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:20 AM on 03/18/2008

This article made me think of Blazing Saddles

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 AM on 03/18/2008

hear, here! yes i did hear that!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 03/18/2008

LOL OMG! Yep, basically the entire article boiled down to Fournier saying 'Who the hell do you think you are, Obama?!?!?' and 'Politics belongs in the hands of the rich white folks.' Then finishing up with 'now go behind that McDonald's counter and take my order, boy!'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 03/18/2008
- jazzence I'm a Fan of jazzence 2 fans permalink

NOW his words matter?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 AM on 03/18/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 195 fans permalink
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I think he just called both Senators Clinton and Obama, REPUBLICANS!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 03/18/2008

I am so pleased we have a candidate with the intelligence and potential that Barack Obama offers and when I first read this article I was immediately defensive. But as I thought about I found there is some truth to the assesment....of course I point out that all politicians are egotistical to greater or lesser degree...John McCain has made the pursuit of the Presidency a lifelong endeavor; and Hillary Clinton has been eyeing it and jockeying her political career and positions with the same intent.

I would say this; I hope that Barack changes his campaign strategy a bit to work smaller groups; towns; cities, more personal opportunities to speak to the public and fewer large stadium rallys. I was drawn in as others were with his small venue stops and speeches and question and answer opportunities in Iowa before the "rock star" arena tour. I am so pleased with Barack Obama's candidacy but I think a return to the roots of his campaign would be wise. Back to the People; after all this is a bottom - up campaign and as he says this is OUR movement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 03/18/2008
- fignozzle I'm a Fan of fignozzle 15 fans permalink
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i totally appreciate what you have just stated here, however, i must say, that i want him back in arenas, where folks faint n'stuff, i want him in the face of as many people he can possibly be in the next while.... it is a strength he has.....
i think, i hope, that it is about

WE THE PEOPLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/18/2008

The worst thing on God's good earth is for a black man to be arrogant. It is OK for even dumb-ass white men to be arrogant but a black man? A Harvard educated black man? Oh no! I am getting so sick and tired of this. My soul is weary. I am beginning ot feel as if I am eighty years of age. I am beginning to wish that Obama had never started this process. It doesn't matter what he does, or how he does it, there will always be some hater around the corner waiting to tear him down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 03/18/2008

Such is the nature of politics. When he has had it done to him for the length of time the Clintons have had it done to them, then I will feel sympathetic. He's only just begun.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:38 PM on 03/18/2008

MariaHopeful, one must remember God, never gives us more than we can handle.......At times it may feel that way, but no, it isn't so. Keep on keepin on: Keep the faith.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 PM on 03/18/2008
- JakeEasy I'm a Fan of JakeEasy 13 fans permalink

Fournier seems to have committed the standard crime against the Obama followers. Not enough praise. In a recent Salon tech article, Farhad Manjoo cites the problems that tech reviewers have with writing about Apple computers. They can praise the machine for 8 pages, then list two small caveats in the last two paragraphs and they receive thousands of pieces of hate mail accusing them of being in the pocket of Bill Gates. The have committed the sin of insufficient praise. Sounds like what goes on here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 03/17/2008

Exqueeze me? I didn't see anything in Fournier's article about followers. Feeling a bit pissy, are we?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:25 AM on 03/18/2008
- ammitusen I'm a Fan of ammitusen 4 fans permalink

well, at least Fournier didn't use the word "uppity".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 03/17/2008
- PennP I'm a Fan of PennP 26 fans permalink
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"Arrogance" is the new "uppity."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 03/17/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

Arrogance is the old arrogance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 03/18/2008
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 104 fans permalink
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You win the prize for the wittiest "uppity" comment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 03/18/2008

No, arrogance is arrogance, and uppity is a slang, which does not mean the same thing. Stop trying to redefine the English language.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/18/2008
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Arrogance is the new uppity. Ever heard of Codespeak? Dog whistle racism at it's finest!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 AM on 03/18/2008

Dog whistle racism????? Oh puleeeeeaassee!!!!! Please point out the racism in Ron's article. You can't, because it's just not there.
Once again, Obama tries to have it both ways. For months, he has telling us this is not about race, then he says race issues in America are very important. WHICH IS IT OBAMA???????
I'm sick of Obama playing the victim. It won't do him a damn bit of good in the general. The GOP is racist, and really doesn't care who knows it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 03/18/2008
- mutatio I'm a Fan of mutatio 3 fans permalink

I don't think excoriation is quite right. Scrutiny? Yes. It happens to be quite useful when identity and personality politics are the measure of a campaign season (all around). :\

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 03/17/2008

How about, "Slow week, need newscopy."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:26 AM on 03/18/2008

If you're white its righteousness, if you're black its arrogance. Well just what is it ...since he’s both Black & White…? Give me a break!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 03/17/2008
- wndrwrthg I'm a Fan of wndrwrthg 43 fans permalink
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Righteous arrogance?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 03/17/2008

It's becoming obvious he's whatever you want to make him. Makes me wish other mixed race people would post their stories. I know, from speaking with some, that their inability to fit into the defined roles of identity politics is an issue with some.

With Obama, the fact is he's biracial. But depending on the point someone is trying to make, the author assigns him a race.

1) Want to tear him away from the black experience, i.e., show he's a spoiled privledged child of the white elite like everyone else, emphasize his white half.

2) Want to tear him away from the white experience, i.e., show he's a big scary black man who wants revenge on white people for everything they did to his ancestors, ephasize his black half. (Well, seeing as how his father is straight from Africa, America didn't do anything to his ancestors, per se, but that's okay. You can just see the anger in him anyways, no?)

It is a bit obscene, how his race changes from minute to minute depending on who's trying to score a point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 PM on 03/17/2008

well said. Excellent points!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:11 AM on 03/18/2008

Sounds like he just doesn't like democrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/17/2008

Why? I think Ron is a democrat. He's just not a starry-eyed kid, walking around with rose colored glasses.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 03/18/2008
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