AP's Fournier Excoriates Obama For 'Arrogance'

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First Posted: 03-17-08 03:42 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his "On Deadline" column, fires a double-barreled shot squarely at Senator Barack Obama, labeling him "arrogant," "cocky," and "ooz[ing] a sense of entitlement."

...there's a line smart politicians don't cross -- somewhere between "I'm qualified to be president" and "I'm born to be president." Wherever it lies, Barack Obama better watch his step.


He's bordering on arrogance.

The grist for Fournier's mill seems to stem from an assortment of quotes the candidate has made on the stump: such as "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there" and "It will light upon you...You will experience an epiphany. And you will say to yourself, I have to vote for Barack. I have to do it." And, indeed, it should be said, a line gets crossed once you refer to yourself in the third person. As a general rule, that's the province of Brazilian soccer players and Saturday Night Live impersonations of Bob Dole.

Fournier, being minimally charitable, notes that Obama's statements involve "a certain amount of tongue-in-cheekiness to such remarks -- almost as if Obama doesn't want to take his adoring crowds and political ascent too seriously." Some of the original reporting done on those quotes bear that out: Newsweek's Andrew Romano, for example, assessed Obama's "epiphany" remark at the time of its utterance as an attempt to "both [lampoon] and slyly [encourage] the perception." Similarly, one commenter on MSNBC's First Read offered:

Just to add context because you guys will not. This part in Fournier's article, a few months later, he said, "Every place is Barack Obama country once Barack Obama's been there." referred to a Nightline interview when he was joking with the reporter.

Still, Fournier out to lower a boom or two:

Privately, aides and associates of Obama tell stories about a boss who can be aloof and ungracious. He holds firmly to views and doesn't like to be challenged, traits that President Bush packaged and sold under the "resolute" brand in the 2004 election. For Bush, those qualities proved to be dangerous in a time of war and in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.


If arrogance is a display of self-importance and superiority, Obama earns the pejorative every time he calls his pre-invasion opposition to the war in Iraq an act of courage.

Still, don't expect the Clinton camp to cite Fournier's analysis too widely, because he takes the time to brutalize Clinton, as well:

That may seem unfair to a candidate who's running against Clinton, the former first lady who is the model of overbearing pride. This is a woman, after all, who claims experience from her eight years as first lady but won't release her White House records; who trails Obama in delegates but deigned to suggest he'd be her running mate; and who has more baggage than Samsonite yet says Obama lacks "vetting."

"But voters expect arrogance from Clinton and her husband, Bill," Fournier says, "It's part of the package. It's a 90s-thing."

In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his...
In one of the most aggressive broadsides leveled against any of the presidential candidates since...well, since Keith Olbermann's "Special Comment" of last week, the AP's Ron Fournier, writing for his...
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- BrickSykes I'm a Fan of BrickSykes 40 fans permalink

I guess that's all we can expect from "journalists" like Fournier. After all, they spend their entire careers observing and writing about Real people and the way Real people do things; they have no time to do Real things on their own. Professional Watchers, I call them. It has to be frustrating.

That is still no reason for bitterness from the cadre that's supposed to be reporting factually to the American People. Seems like some of them forget that from time to time.

Brick

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 03/17/2008

Ron works for the Associated Press, and has had his own political site called Hot Soup. It was a great site.
Please point out the, "bitternes­s."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 03/18/2008
- MizJ I'm a Fan of MizJ 8 fans permalink

Obama needs to get over himself. He is just another politician like they all are. Saying things like "we are who we have been waiting for" was standard fare. He surrounds himself with the likes of Jesse Jackson, Jr., Rev. Wright and Tony Rezko and then expects to be treated differently because he tells us he is different is arrogant. If these so called friends and advisors are who he will appoint upon election is kind of frightening. And his judgment is in serious doubt. We now find out that the $50-$60,000 contribution made to his campaigns has now become $250,000 from Rezko. Oops! Either somebody over there cannot count or this is just another "boneheaded" error. Obama supporters are quick to label Hillary as deceitful and willing to do anything to get elected but I don't think his hands are all that clean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 03/17/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

Amen MizJ
HE is the worst . . .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 03/17/2008

And HIllary is God's gift.

Yeah, right.

Tailcoat rider.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 03/18/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Guess you don't see in Obama what many of us do. Perhaps you should read what some Presidential Historians think.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-pollack/yes-obama-has-substance-_b_87126.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:56 AM on 03/18/2008

This is all based on speculation, and has nothing to do with "history." What history, he's a junior senator from Illinois. He's still a rookie, so how can "historians," see anything in him, that we haven't??? One does not have to be a history major to recognize bullshit!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 03/18/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Guess you don't see what many of us do in Obama. Perhaps you'd like to read what Historians think:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/harold-pollack/yes-obama-has-substance-_b_87126.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 AM on 03/18/2008

HISTORIANS?????? He hasn't been around long enough to even be considered "history."
I don't see what all the hype is about either. Obama is no different, in many aspects, than any other politician. No different at all.
Ms.J, I don't think his hands are clean at all. He has blood on his hands, just like Hillary does. Anybody who votes in any way to sustain this occupation in Iraq has blood on their hands. I have noticed, that Obama tries to have things both ways. He says his candidacy is not about race, then turns around and says racial issues in America are very important. He can't have it both ways. Just like his Iraq funding votes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 03/18/2008

You are absolutely correct. He paints himself as an outsider, above the fray, not marred by the trappings of politics. It's a sales pitch, pure and simple, and he is being deceitful in order to become POTUS.

He has relatively ZERO experience, and it shows, now that he is finally under fire over Rezko and Wright. Funny how "WORDS COUNT", until the words are coming out of Reverend Wright's mouth. Then, one must assume that Obama only cherry-picks the politically correct gems every Sunday, and leaves the majority of the hate-speech in the gutter where it belongs.

Obama has atrocious judgment, and he is not prepared for the office. He plans to meet hostile leaders without precondition, gets involved in real estate deals that are unethical at best, and worships under a pastor that fixates on the advancement of black people only rather than humankind as a whole. Impeccable judgment. Michelle Obama makes it clear what their agenda is. He disguises it with a little more finesse, but it's all smoke and mirrors.

I cannot believe that the Democratic Party is even considering a nominee who is so ill-prepared. Did he figure out who Putin's successor is yet? (crickets) So many reasons to say no at this juncture. NOT ready on DAY 1365 as opposed to ready on day one...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 AM on 03/18/2008
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are you kidding? LMAO!! Sybillary is "vetted" yet she's on trial for campaign fraud via Peter Paul and Norman Hsu, lack of transparency with tax records (corporate donations, Dubai), white house records (foreign policy "experience" debunked by Irish Nobel peace prize". And it's reported in the court documents that Rezko does in fact have ties to the Clinton via campaign donations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 AM on 03/18/2008

As an Obama Supporter I in fact like this piece which intends to keep him sane with all the movement and have a level headiness to keep things in perspective. What RON FOURNIER is saying is don't lose your ways that has gotten you this far. Keep it up and stay humble Senator Obama. It is all yours in the end.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 03/17/2008

Even the articles supposedly critical of Obama are underhanded swipes at Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 03/17/2008
- ltfcrazy I'm a Fan of ltfcrazy 8 fans permalink

Can't talk about Hillary without saying something negative for more than one sentence. Her being president has very little up side.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 PM on 03/17/2008
- mutatio I'm a Fan of mutatio 3 fans permalink

Well that's the Huffpo filter in effect. i.e.-someo­ne telling you it was a an anti-Obama article. The criticisms were largely of Obama with a smattering for Clinton. Not unreasonable IMO and certainly didn't come across as an underhanded swipe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 03/17/2008
- suzyku I'm a Fan of suzyku 6 fans permalink

Who cares what he says?! Who is he to judge these people, talk about arrogance and self entitlement!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 PM on 03/17/2008

Where is the "self entitlement?" Please explain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 03/18/2008
- Marioth I'm a Fan of Marioth 32 fans permalink
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Not the AP, Jeremiah Wright, nor Tony Rezko can undo Clinton's poor judgement.

The AP is sifting for anything, aiming to pile on because suddenly it's fashionable. Wright's words have been out there for a long time. A church is so much more than a pastor, and when did people's churches come into politics? It's crap. Wright speaks truth for those who have ears to hear; you do not have to agree with his anger to hear them.

None of this undoes Clinton's continued poor judgement::

1. Voting for the occupation
2. Voting for Kyle/Lieberman
3. Voting for landmines
4. Voting for bankruptsy "reform"
5. Lying about her actual exerience
6. Covering up her and Bill's $500+ billion financial dealings
7. No campaign plan post-Super Tuesday
8. Reliance on dodgy negative ads to get "ahead"
9. Crocodile tears in New Hampshire
10. Bill's big fat mouth
11. And other parts of Bill's anatomy (this is a ticking time bomb)
12. That's it's about her and not We the People
13. Not a single fillibuster to limit executive power
14. Fewer pleged delegates
15. Fewer popular votes in contested states
16. Mark Penn's Genius
17. Bringing up Ken Starr
18. Gerry Ferraro because this arrogance is her campaign's as well
19. Trashing caucuses though they produce voting delegates
20. Not one new super delegate since Super Tuesday
21. Inventing fantasy when reality no longer works ("automatic delagates" and so on)
22. The fixation on PA, ensuring polarization for waaaaaay too long

No more Bush/Clinton Barony, thanks. Clinton supporters ought to ask themseves just which of the above they are comfortable setting aside. In this election, each voter has this terrible responsibility.

Time to get real, and grow up.

Pax,
M.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 PM on 03/17/2008
- Mollye I'm a Fan of Mollye 9 fans permalink

Childish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 PM on 03/17/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

23. Your stupid verbage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 03/18/2008

Hey Pax,
Did you ever know the Clinton's having a "mentor pastor" who said things like, " God Damn America! " three times in a row? Or "the black people created aids to kill the white people?( I am reversing this statement for the sake of argument) or America is responsible for 9/11, and that is why" Our chickens have came home to roost." ?!! Gee, i guess not.
YOU LOSE BUDDY.
Hillary Clinton 2008,or John McCain 2008 .Barack Obama is no longer an option, and I am quite sure you know that...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 AM on 03/18/2008
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Gee Katie, you are wrong. I am quite sure you don't know that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:27 AM on 03/18/2008

Hillary yes, McCain? HELL NO!!!!! Even Obama would be better than McBomb!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 03/18/2008
- rzan I'm a Fan of rzan 6 fans permalink

I wish Hillary and others had had that "pre-invasion opposition to the war." Over 1,000,000 people have died. Call me arrogant, but the war in Iraq is the reason I can't support McCain or Clinton.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 PM on 03/17/2008
- mutatio I'm a Fan of mutatio 3 fans permalink

Then I'd argue that Obama's apparently feeble attempts to be an anti-war figure in the senate should be a concern for you as well. His very argument is to cast himself as an extreme change from Clinton and yet their war policies beyond the '02 speech are kissing cousins. Obama wants to appeal to the anti-war vote while also saying he'll keep people there at his discretion. Do your homework. That doesn't sound anything like the anti-war proponent he'd like you to believe he is. You want an anti-war candidate? Write in Feingold or Kucinich.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/17/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Kyl-Liebermann. No kissing cousins.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 AM on 03/18/2008
- ErikW65 I'm a Fan of ErikW65 11 fans permalink

You're confusing voting record with political position. Their positions have not been identical, even if their voting on war spending has.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 03/18/2008
- Mollye I'm a Fan of Mollye 9 fans permalink

You candidate would probably have voted with his collegues had he been a U.S. Senator , at the time...and it was not a vote for war. He has voted exactly like Hillary has voted in funding the war, since his election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:47 PM on 03/17/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Wow, because you say so!!

Thanks, but I think I'll trust Obama on this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 AM on 03/18/2008

He is in no way arrogant, he is confident, as anyone would be when they are clearly the winner and next to nothing can change that.

And a sense of entitlement?? Hillary is the definition of sense of entitlement, as well as arrogance.

What pathetic "reporting"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:26 PM on 03/17/2008
- sklfcats I'm a Fan of sklfcats 4 fans permalink

Barak is just a pain in the ass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 AM on 03/18/2008

I don't think HE is, but his supporters most certainly are. I kinda' like the guy myself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/18/2008
- seejake I'm a Fan of seejake 10 fans permalink
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The AP is struggling, just like the rest of MSM, which is why they have become more tabloid-esque because that kind of garbage sells. Just watch as MSNBC, CNN, and the AP all try to mirror Fox. Pretty sad, but that's allowed truly engaged and enthusiastic budding journalists in the blogosphere to succeed.

Fournier is a dinosaur dying a slow and painful death. Nothing to see here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 03/17/2008
- ltfcrazy I'm a Fan of ltfcrazy 8 fans permalink

I think the first thing we the people need to ask for from our government is to add civics class to every high school's curriculum. If people had to take even one year of civics our leaders could be completely transparent in less than 10 years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:06 PM on 03/17/2008

have you ever heard/read yourself?

what kind of message of inspiration is he parsing?.. it seems to just wizz past you obamabots heads...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/17/2008
- DMHendrix I'm a Fan of DMHendrix 93 fans permalink
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I almost think it's funny when reporters say things like that..it sounds so "junior high". You know, like the really cool kids won't let you in to their group or something so you say really mean things about them so you don't feel like a total DORK. It's OK, I'm sure you'll get invited to the next BBQ at the McCain ranch so you can feel part of the crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 03/17/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Yet the arrogance of Hillary's claims of "35 years of experience" and having crossed the "commander­-in-chief-­threshold" are completely acceptable??????

Why doesn't the supposedly impartial journalist, Fournier, just come out and say that he's supporting Hillary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 03/17/2008
- halyscomet I'm a Fan of halyscomet 7 fans permalink

Fournier's comments are ridiculous. Imagine what he would write if Obama was lacking confidence­...

BTW, is Obama still "lucky"?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 03/17/2008
- eladora I'm a Fan of eladora 9 fans permalink

did he mention mccain is old? bush is stupid?

just wondering it here were any truths or all tabloid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 03/17/2008
- anthonylee I'm a Fan of anthonylee 4 fans permalink
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Fournier is a "former" political writer for The Associated Press who teamed up with former senior Bush strategist Matthew Dowd and former senior advisor to President Clinton Doug Sosnik to author "Applebee's America: What Political, Business, and Religious Leaders Can Learn from Each Other"

I'm not sure what this guy's agenda is?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 03/17/2008
- Shaddup I'm a Fan of Shaddup 11 fans permalink
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Yeah, because mixing politics with business and religion has done us so much good up to this point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 PM on 03/17/2008

Here, here!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 03/18/2008

The AP has become nothing but a right wing mouthpiece now. They've put out lots and lots of drivel that gets mainlined into the subscribing news outlets.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 03/17/2008
- BlogAngel I'm a Fan of BlogAngel 4 fans permalink

A man who believes he can pull off the real estate deal Obama pulled with Rekzo and not get found out... and go for 20 years to the same church then say he never heard the hateful sermons his preacher consistently spewed... is ARROGANT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 03/17/2008
- EvoMan I'm a Fan of EvoMan 30 fans permalink

The real estate deal was above board and legal.

Prove he was in the pews or shut up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 03/17/2008
- Shaddup I'm a Fan of Shaddup 11 fans permalink
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And speaking of hateful... Whew, pot, meet kettle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 PM on 03/17/2008
- boombox I'm a Fan of boombox 8 fans permalink

yeah, buying a small parcel of land at MARKET VALUE...wh­at an outrage!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/17/2008

I just listened to his speech. He finally admitted that he HAD indeed been in the pews when a lot of stuff he objected to was being said. I'm glad he did that, because it was sure to come up again if he gets the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 PM on 03/18/2008
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