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Bill Kristol Errs, <i>Times</i> Benefits

Bill Kristol Errs, Times Benefits

March 17, 2008 10:54 AM


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Earlier this morning, the New York Times ran William Kristol's Monday morning op-ed, and just a short while thereafter, the Atlantic's Marc Ambinder, rifle trained on the fish-flush barrel, rooted out a ridiculous factual error at the column's foundation - namely, that Senator Barack Obama was in attendance at Trinity United Church of Christ on July 22, 2007, when Reverend Jeremiah Wright "blamed the 'arrogance' of the 'United States of White America' for much of the world's suffering. Ambinder, with relative ease, uncovered evidence - including video footage - that this was not the case. "Now, a simple Google search suggests that Obama spent most of the day in Miami," Ambinder writes, adding, "But a simple e-mail or telephone call to Obama's campaign might have cleared things up."

And, one would think, a simple correction on the part of the New York Times might be forthcoming. Ambinder's colleague, Matt Yglesias, certainly thinks such a move would be appropriate: "Marc Ambinder's item above pointing out the error has circulated all throughout the internet already -- surely the Times could decide to stop misleading its readers."

But where would the impetus to offer a correction come from? We're talking about the newspaper that went to war on John McCain with a thinky sources tale of sordid K Street trysts that didn't stand up to scrutiny and thus washed away what substance there was on McCain's ethical dealings - or lack thereof - with the lobbyist set. And William Kristol's debut as a Times columnist was marred by a similar foundational error that didn't seem to earn the columnist any sort of censure from Times editors.

So weeks after it should have been apparent that Kristol badly needs a factchecker lurking in the corner of the room on a full-time basis, he whiffs badly once again, and the blogosphere ignites in a full-on inferno. Yet all paths lead back to nytimes.com, don't they? Proving once again that while error might be bad for the discourse, it's definitely good for unique visitors.

UPDATE: Bill Kristol has finally acknowledged his error, stating: "In this column, I cite a report that Sen. Obama had attended services at Trinity Church on July 22, 2007. The Obama camapaign [sic] has provided information showing that Sen. Obama did not attend Trinity that day. I regret the error." Indeed, the Obama campaign might have proven to be a valuable resource for Kristol in the first place, rather than a Newsmax story which is still insisting on their version of the facts: "Our writer, Jim Davis, says he attended several services at Senator Obama's church during the month of July, including July 22. The church holds services three times every Sunday at 7:30 and 11 a.m. and 6 p.m. Central time. While both the early morning and evening service allowed Sen. Obama to attend the service and still give a speech in Miami."


 
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The concept "factually wrong" does not apply here. This is marketing, not journalism, and Kristol is a propaganda brand aimed at garnering support for fascist policy. The only way Kristol could be "wrong," in this view, would be if he somehow failed to successfully bamboozle the great unwashed audience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 PM on 03/18/2008
- Nyla785 I'm a Fan of Nyla785 9 fans permalink

Kristol is evidently going the career route of Robert Novak, that is, from journalist to mouthpiece for the GOP propaganda. No doubt it is far more lucrative than being a mere journalist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 03/18/2008
- Mike169 I'm a Fan of Mike169 45 fans permalink
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Here's one of the easiest things to prove and Kristol lies anyway. At what point does the Times throw him bodily off the op ed page?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 03/18/2008
- MACS I'm a Fan of MACS permalink

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Why is a LIE from Kristol unexpected­.???
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 03/18/2008
- bauersox I'm a Fan of bauersox 4 fans permalink

Even if Obama wasn't present on this particular Sunday, he certainly knew about this stuff -- and more -- since he's had twenty years of private time in Rev. Wright's bosom, including all that mentoring, the soundboarding, and the moral compasswork. Or do you think Wright suffers from multiple personality disorder?

Plus the statement in Trumpet about Farrakhan last fall. How could he have missed that? Trumpet is the parish magazine and is delivered to Obama's home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 03/18/2008

So this explains why FOX (Hannity and crew) is so ADAMANT and OBSTINATE about spewing FALSE information about Senator Obama.

It's SAD when one watches a major NEWS NETWORK----you'd HAVE TO research another network and sources to confirm the material.

What a WASTE of time !!!! Kristol, Williams, Hume, and Wallace are sources that CANNOT BE TRUSTED. Either THEY believed this mess----or like Hannity, they are deliberately trying to take Obama down with "dirty politics".

THEY are using "major airways" to destroy Obama------knowing AMERICA (normally) LISTENS to the news. The PROBLEM-----America needs to know after THIS ------ FOX IS NOT RELIABLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:58 AM on 03/18/2008

I just wiki'ed this guy (Kristol) and found out he was the campaign manager for Alan Keys. Bwahahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 AM on 03/18/2008

I believe this is the guy I saw on Fox one night, after Hillary had lost eleven straight primaries. He said something to the effect of, if he were Hillary he would go completely negative against Barack because it was her only hope.

Well, she has. One question is why is Hillary using Fox News/GOP strategies in a Democratic Primary? Now that we see Kristol sharing the strategy to his own advantage, the next question is why are some American people falling for this again?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 AM on 03/18/2008
- mshannon I'm a Fan of mshannon 2 fans permalink

Mainly because the photo you used is two years old and 25 pounds lighter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/18/2008
- mshannon I'm a Fan of mshannon 2 fans permalink

I wish him well on "The Biggest Loser". Watch him lose the weight and his neoconservativism as his father Irving rolls over in his grave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/18/2008
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Has the ever been a "journalist" who is wrong more often that this jerk?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 03/18/2008

I normally use the Welcome to America serves as a news forum. I would like to comment on the Barack Obama and the statements of Reverend Wright which has become so ubiquitous in the media. I find the fascination with this topic, well fascinating.

I think it is a good thing that this has happened. We need to expose the hidden racism in America. It is still there festering. Black and white people are equally racist as it is hard wired in us to reject that which is different. It takes some evolution of consciousness to be able to overcome our natural instincts to vilify the hated "other". Part of what Obama said he was going to do involved changing our attitudes. Not just change of political processes but change at the core. It will be painful no doubt. It will take someone extraordinary to push it along. From what I have seen, he is our best bet to get it started.

For those of you who need to have a man/woman be perfect before you will let him lead....I don't think you will never be satisfied.
As a white man, I have had advantages both subtle and obvious in this country. Comments like those of Geraldine Ferraro are so blatantly ridiculous it is hard to take them seriously. For a black man to reach where Obama stands, well the odds are astronomical. He is where he is because there seems to be a certain destiny surrounding him (if one believes in such things). I believe that he will be our next president and he will have trials such as those that faced Roosevelt and Lincoln. He will be both beloved and hated. In the end, it won't matter as we will make progress because of his efforts. Ultimately forward is all that is required, there is no real end that we will know in our short time here. Just small steps as humanity loses it fear and begins to focus on what is authentic versus the illusion while the ladder upward that constitutes (and moving beyond reptilian brain) a move toward some sort of self realization and a maturity of spirit. For now it will be a couple steps up and one back down as we acclimate to our new perch. (as progress must settle in). The movie The Matrix comes to mind as a metaphor for our blindness to the invisible reality that animates all that we see. Are we ready for the red pill? We'll see.
Regards,
Mike

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:35 AM on 03/18/2008

WELL SAID INDEED!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 03/18/2008
- Rachel36 I'm a Fan of Rachel36 5 fans permalink

Thanks Mike.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 03/18/2008
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It's all about timing. When it really matters, you can always count on the NYT to do the wrong thing. No wonder they support Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 03/17/2008
- cafemocha I'm a Fan of cafemocha 14 fans permalink

As penance for Kristol's failure, he is hereby sentenced to spend his remaining NYT commentary days unearthing irrefutable proof that George W. Bush was present and accounted for on each day of his national guard duty. Henceforth Kristol's NYT column space will be devoted to weekly status updates on the progress of said investigation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/17/2008
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Bill Kristol has no fear of lying.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 PM on 03/17/2008
- vandegrasse I'm a Fan of vandegrasse 195 fans permalink
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Not only has he no fear of it, he thrive on it. Real classy journalist. Used to think the Times was classy. It ain't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 03/18/2008

The NYT has a fear of proof-reading and fact-checking, apparently. Their public editor will report on all the outraged reader responses, and Kristol will keep getting paid to lie... business as usual. Pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 03/18/2008
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