Clinton Camp Hedges, Then Backpedals, On Troop Withdrawal

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First Posted: 03-17-08 02:22 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in its criticism.

"Out campaigning Senator Obama tells voters that as president he'd withdraw combat brigades from Iraq within 16 months, but one of his top foreign policy advisers told a different story," Sen. Clinton herself declared in a speech today. "Giving speeches alone won't end the war and making campaign promises you might not keep certainly won't end it. In the end, the true test is not the speeches a president delivers, it's whether the president delivers on the speeches."

On a conference call later that day, however, aides to the New York senator fumbled a bit, giving the impression that their Iraq plans could also change depending on circumstance -- and then abruptly back-peddling.

In a rapid back-and-forth exchange at the end of the session, Michael Dobbs, of the Washington Post, asked repeatedly whether Clinton would stick to withdrawing one to two brigades of troops a month even if there is a massive spike of violence as U.S. troops departed.

Trying his best to keep the campaign line, Lee Feinstein, Clinton's National Security Director, nevertheless acknowledged: "There are, in the world, contingencies."

He was, to be sure, quick to get back on point. "But it is a very different manner when you enter office un-intending to implement the plan you have put out on the campaign trail, which what we have seemed to have learned n on the basis of the comments of a former senior aide to Senator Obama."

This, however, was not a sufficient explanation for Dobbs who rightfully wanted to know whether a hypothetical Clinton administration would really tie itself to a withdrawal plan more than a half a year prior to taking office.

Weren't contingencies exactly what Power was talking about? "Even if there's a new upsurge of violence in Iraq she will stick to that plan, or is that just the best case scenario?" he asked.

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"Hillary has dealt with this issue a million times," said Neera Tanden, the campaign's policy director. "She has said she would bring her troops home. She has said there will be a small force to address al Qaeda."

This, Dobbs noted, was another evasion. Yes or no, would Clinton stick to the withdrawal plan she has outlined even if the security situation in Iraq were to fall apart?

Finally, the campaign's spokesperson stepped in.

"This is Howard Wolfson," he said. "You asked for a one-word answer and the answer is yes."

Late Update: Susan Rice, Senator Obama's foreign policy adviser, is asked about the same issue on a later conference call. She doesn't, as Wolfson did, firmly say that Obama will not adjust his withdrawal plan. She does, however, rip into Feinstein and, tangentially Clinton, for the "contingencies" remark.

"Sen. Obama has been very clear about his position, he believes that it is entirely realistic and responsible to redeploy our forces from Iraq at a rate of one to two combat brigades per month and that is what he will immediately do upon taking office... He believes it is perfectly possible, and perfectly reasonable, to affect a rate of one to two combat brigades per month.

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"On the one hand Lee Feinstein said that [Sen. Clinton's] plan was subject to contingencies, which was an interesting phrase and begs the question, what are contingencies?... But if that is Sen. Clintons' position, it is the height of politics and hypocrisy for Sen. Clinton to criticize Sen. Obama for doing what I just said."

Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in...
Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in...
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Here is where the Clintons really stand. THis is a must see

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSQFySxzznw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1etgsNU46s4

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 03/17/2008
- musselmanm I'm a Fan of musselmanm 19 fans permalink
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Hillary wil stick by what her proposals are! Unless she changes her mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 03/17/2008



First it was her "Ah don't feel no ways tired" speech. Now this.

Hillary has now shown that she really will do anything to win ...

http://lucianne.com/routine/images/03-17-08.jpg

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:50 PM on 03/17/2008
- Tankan I'm a Fan of Tankan 3 fans permalink

If President, Hillary will bring some troops home but leave some troops there, and if needs be, she will send troops back again, after she is seen to keep her electoral promise!

Still as hell bent on war as McCain!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:47 PM on 03/17/2008

A SeaChange for Hillary in North Carolina. We need Hillary supporters from around the country. www.politicalamnesia.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 03/17/2008
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In4Success--Thank you! Am in total agreement. The hypocrisy is just sickening.

We've been turned into a bunch of sheep -- afraid to speak out and call it. Two thing I greatly admire about Senator Obama -- the absence of the now meaningless flag pin and the refreshing absence of the pernicious phrase "at the end of the day." At the end of what day?

On a lighter note, what is up with the HRC shamrock blouse? Hideous -- Are we meant to be transported back to the early 90s by the sight of it and start salivating for the Clinton show all over again? The Clintons vulgarity never ceases to amaze me.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 03/17/2008

This says it all:
"March 17th, 2008
Clinton Campaign Continues War of Distortion in Blogosphere
Taylor Marsh says “this is a first” but it is not. The email sent to pro-Clinton bloggers by Peter Daou is just one more part of the Clinton campaign’s efforts to distort the record and attempt to distract attention from how dirty and dishonest their campaign has been.

The email makes a bogus argument that it has been the Obama campaign which has been attacking Clinton. As the Clinton campaign has done many times in the past, they make a false equivalence between dirty attacks from their campaign and responses from the Obama campaign. This has gone on for quite a while. Before Clinton’s campaign went way over the line, causing me to use this blog largely to oppose her candidacy, I often received email and invitations to conference calls from Peter. They were often based upon outright lies about Obama. More than once I pointed out to Peter that pursuing such a dirty campaign would only harm Clinton and play to Obama’s strengths. Time has proven me right.

There is a considerable difference between Clinton lying about Obama’s position and Obama criticizing Clinton over a policy disagreement. Peter’s email treats all these the same. To disagree with Clinton over matters of principle is dismissed as “Republican framing,” the implication being that disagreement is not allowed.

I’ve reviewed many of Clinton’s dishonest statements in multiple previous posts. For example, Clinton has sent out mailers which were totally misleading regarding Obama’s positions on issues such as Social Security, abortion rights, Iraq, and health care. Clinton’s distortions on abortion rights led Lorna Brett Howard, the former President of Chicago NOW, to drop her support for Clinton and back Obama. Clinton has also raised bogus charges such on plagiarism, distorted the meaning of voting present in the Illinois legislature, and distorting Obama’s references to Ronald Reagan in an interview. Lawrence Lessig made an excellent video summarizing the reasons to oppose Clinton due to her character. I have previously posted both the video and a transcript here. Bill Bradley has also commented on Clinton’s dishonesty recently as as noted here. A review of any of the sites which concentrate on fact checking the campaign should make it clear which candidate has been concentrating on the use of such distortions in their campaign, and I’ve linked to many such items in previous post.

Among the many bogus attacks has been the claim that Clinton is more prepared than Obama to be Commander-in-Chief. In reality, as I’ve noted many times before such as here, Clinton has no special qualifications on handling a foreign policy crisis. She did not have security clearance when her husband was president, she made no significant decisions, and her accounts of her role in foreign policy have been exposed as being greatly exaggerated. The major difference between the two is that on the most important foreign policy question of recent years, the war in Iraq, Obama got it right and Clinton got it wrong, despite all of the attempts of the Clinton campaign to distort this fact.

Peter even mentions Samantha Power referring to Clinton as a monster. He leaves out the important facts that she immediately attempted to retract the statement, she apologized for the statement, and she quickly left the campaign. The fact of the matter is that Clinton has run a dirty campaign and, while campaign aides should not say so in interviews, she has behaved like a monster.

There is nothing wrong with exposing Clinton’s dishonesty and Rove-style campaign tactics, and it is perfectly legitimate for the Obama campaign to point out these issues. Clinton cannot complain about people saying she will say anything to win when she has repeatedly demonstrated that this is the case. Liberal bloggers have repeatedly complained about such tactics coming from Republicans. Such tactics are no more excusable coming from a Democratic candidate."

Related Post: Hillary Clinton and the Liberal Blogosphere

Written by Ron Chusid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 03/17/2008

More of the same old/same old from The Triangulator. Hillary Clinton is the most dishonest politician in the race for the White House. Electing her is like putting Emperor Bush in a skirt and giving him another few years to reign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 03/17/2008

This says it all about Clinton for me:

"March 17th, 2008

Clinton Campaign Continues War of Distortion in Blogosphere

Taylor Marsh says “this is a first” but it is not. The email sent to pro-Clinton bloggers by Peter Daou is just one more part of the Clinton campaign’s efforts to distort the record and attempt to distract attention from how dirty and dishonest their campaign has been.

The email makes a bogus argument that it has been the Obama campaign which has been attacking Clinton. As the Clinton campaign has done many times in the past, they make a false equivalence between dirty attacks from their campaign and responses from the Obama campaign. This has gone on for quite a while. Before Clinton’s campaign went way over the line, causing me to use this blog largely to oppose her candidacy, I often received email and invitations to conference calls from Peter. They were often based upon outright lies about Obama. More than once I pointed out to Peter that pursuing such a dirty campaign would only harm Clinton and play to Obama’s strengths. Time has proven me right.

There is a considerable difference between Clinton lying about Obama’s position and Obama criticizing Clinton over a policy disagreement. Peter’s email treats all these the same. To disagree with Clinton over matters of principle is dismissed as “Republican framing,” the implication being that disagreement is not allowed.

I’ve reviewed many of Clinton’s dishonest statements in multiple previous posts. For example, Clinton has sent out mailers which were totally misleading regarding Obama’s positions on issues such as Social Security, abortion rights, Iraq, and health care. Clinton’s distortions on abortion rights led Lorna Brett Howard, the former President of Chicago NOW, to drop her support for Clinton and back Obama. Clinton has also raised bogus charges such on plagiarism, distorted the meaning of voting present in the Illinois legislature, and distorting Obama’s references to Ronald Reagan in an interview. Lawrence Lessig made an excellent video summarizing the reasons to oppose Clinton due to her character. I have previously posted both the video and a transcript here. Bill Bradley has also commented on Clinton’s dishonesty recently as as noted here. A review of any of the sites which concentrate on fact checking the campaign should make it clear which candidate has been concentrating on the use of such distortions in their campaign, and I’ve linked to many such items in previous post.

Among the many bogus attacks has been the claim that Clinton is more prepared than Obama to be Commander-in-Chief. In reality, as I’ve noted many times before such as here, Clinton has no special qualifications on handling a foreign policy crisis. She did not have security clearance when her husband was president, she made no significant decisions, and her accounts of her role in foreign policy have been exposed as being greatly exaggerated. The major difference between the two is that on the most important foreign policy question of recent years, the war in Iraq, Obama got it right and Clinton got it wrong, despite all of the attempts of the Clinton campaign to distort this fact.

Peter even mentions Samantha Power referring to Clinton as a monster. He leaves out the important facts that she immediately attempted to retract the statement, she apologized for the statement, and she quickly left the campaign. The fact of the matter is that Clinton has run a dirty campaign and, while campaign aides should not say so in interviews, she has behaved like a monster.

There is nothing wrong with exposing Clinton’s dishonesty and Rove-style campaign tactics, and it is perfectly legitimate for the Obama campaign to point out these issues. Clinton cannot complain about people saying she will say anything to win when she has repeatedly demonstrated that this is the case. Liberal bloggers have repeatedly complained about such tactics coming from Republicans. Such tactics are no more excusable coming from a Democratic candidate."

Related Post: Hillary Clinton and the Liberal Blogosphere

Written by Ron Chusid

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 03/17/2008
- rblackbird I'm a Fan of rblackbird 11 fans permalink

The headline on this story, as usual, is misleading. Clinton did not backpedal; and the negative commenters did not read to the end of the story. Both Neera Tanden and Howard Wolfson made clear that she would stick to her announced troop withdrawal schedule.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 03/17/2008
- drzoon I'm a Fan of drzoon 15 fans permalink

how can you say that.... if you read her advisor's response? he said what the answer really really should be. its just not being straight with folks if you say.... "no matter what... we are pulling out". its actually knowing that your base will believe anything regardless of reality and truthfullness. very sad.... Rome is burning

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/17/2008

You've been listening to the spin of lawyer-ise much too long. It's starting to sound real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:16 PM on 03/17/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 47 fans permalink

Hillary with her vote to invade and occupy Iraq was instrumental in sending the troops there, instrumental in the resulting deaths, destruction, and debt that has racked up over the past 5 years. She owes the American military and the Iraqi people her profound apologies for being so blooming stupid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 03/17/2008
- KARE I'm a Fan of KARE permalink

Obama gave an anti-war speech, but when given the opportunity to ACT on that speech, he failed to carry out what he said he believed. As he did on the Patriot act as well, which he also gave a speech on. He gives good speeches though

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 03/17/2008

These two warmongerers are the same guy. The military age members of their families should be drafted, trained as all of our military is trained, and placed on the front lines of their war until all US troops and contractors are withdrawn from Iraq.

It's funny to watch them attack each other on Iraq when both have the identical positions -- continue the war and we'll figure it out when I become President.

Hillary and Obama are both despicable warmongerers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 03/17/2008
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Bushes - Clintons !!! WMD was the lie Bush told. Hillary- the President trick me into believing he wouldn't go to war and she should be Commander and Chief?[anyone can lie to her because she isn't smart enough to find out the true] Obama the guy there afraid of because he isn't part of the problem- He's the light that mustn't shine because people in power will go to jail under his adm. What ever happen to the 8 billion Dollars lost at the begaining of the Iraq war? He is not an insider so how did we get into this war he will ask? And what was discussed when Cheney meet with Big Oil maybe Obama Justice Dept will find out because congress can't. And did cheney out a C.I.A.Officers, Maybe Obama justice dept will find out,not an insider. And why haven't we found BEN LADEN-and is it true about the BEN LADENS leaving America after 9/11 with the Bushes help. What kind of America do you American's want?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 03/17/2008
- eladora I'm a Fan of eladora 9 fans permalink

i WISH THAT SOME OF THE OTHER SO-CALLED PARTY LEADERS WOULD PUT AN END TO THIS BULLCRAP ARGUING --GET THIS SETTLED SO WE CAN MOVE ON. i CALL FOR EACH OF THEM TO NOW --RIGHT NOW--NAME THEIR VP .

LETS HAVE THAT PRESSURE PUT ON BOTH OF THEM NOW. I DONT CARE WHAT HISTORY SAYS AND HAS DONE. WE ARE IN ABNORMAL TIMES THAT CALL FOR CHANGE---

WHO IS YOUR VP GOING TO BE ? I WANT TO KNOW BOTH OF YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 03/17/2008

Gosh, Slippery Hillary backpedals on everything except destoying the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 03/17/2008
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