Clinton Camp Hedges, Then Backpedals, On Troop Withdrawal

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First Posted: 03-17-08 02:22 PM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in its criticism.

"Out campaigning Senator Obama tells voters that as president he'd withdraw combat brigades from Iraq within 16 months, but one of his top foreign policy advisers told a different story," Sen. Clinton herself declared in a speech today. "Giving speeches alone won't end the war and making campaign promises you might not keep certainly won't end it. In the end, the true test is not the speeches a president delivers, it's whether the president delivers on the speeches."

On a conference call later that day, however, aides to the New York senator fumbled a bit, giving the impression that their Iraq plans could also change depending on circumstance -- and then abruptly back-peddling.

In a rapid back-and-forth exchange at the end of the session, Michael Dobbs, of the Washington Post, asked repeatedly whether Clinton would stick to withdrawing one to two brigades of troops a month even if there is a massive spike of violence as U.S. troops departed.

Trying his best to keep the campaign line, Lee Feinstein, Clinton's National Security Director, nevertheless acknowledged: "There are, in the world, contingencies."

He was, to be sure, quick to get back on point. "But it is a very different manner when you enter office un-intending to implement the plan you have put out on the campaign trail, which what we have seemed to have learned n on the basis of the comments of a former senior aide to Senator Obama."

This, however, was not a sufficient explanation for Dobbs who rightfully wanted to know whether a hypothetical Clinton administration would really tie itself to a withdrawal plan more than a half a year prior to taking office.

Weren't contingencies exactly what Power was talking about? "Even if there's a new upsurge of violence in Iraq she will stick to that plan, or is that just the best case scenario?" he asked.

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"Hillary has dealt with this issue a million times," said Neera Tanden, the campaign's policy director. "She has said she would bring her troops home. She has said there will be a small force to address al Qaeda."

This, Dobbs noted, was another evasion. Yes or no, would Clinton stick to the withdrawal plan she has outlined even if the security situation in Iraq were to fall apart?

Finally, the campaign's spokesperson stepped in.

"This is Howard Wolfson," he said. "You asked for a one-word answer and the answer is yes."

Late Update: Susan Rice, Senator Obama's foreign policy adviser, is asked about the same issue on a later conference call. She doesn't, as Wolfson did, firmly say that Obama will not adjust his withdrawal plan. She does, however, rip into Feinstein and, tangentially Clinton, for the "contingencies" remark.

"Sen. Obama has been very clear about his position, he believes that it is entirely realistic and responsible to redeploy our forces from Iraq at a rate of one to two combat brigades per month and that is what he will immediately do upon taking office... He believes it is perfectly possible, and perfectly reasonable, to affect a rate of one to two combat brigades per month.

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"On the one hand Lee Feinstein said that [Sen. Clinton's] plan was subject to contingencies, which was an interesting phrase and begs the question, what are contingencies?... But if that is Sen. Clintons' position, it is the height of politics and hypocrisy for Sen. Clinton to criticize Sen. Obama for doing what I just said."

Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in...
Ever since former aide Samantha Power admitted to the BBC that Sen. Barack Obama's Iraq withdrawal plan could change depending on conditions on the ground, the Clinton campaign has been unrelenting in...
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- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Hillary is not going to get us out of Iraq any sooner than McCrazy. The defense contractors are betting on it by giving her huge parts of their donations.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 03/17/2008
- neocon43 I'm a Fan of neocon43 29 fans permalink

You forgot Obama to.Or did you already disqualify him from the race!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 03/17/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 38 fans permalink

I support Obama. But I'm convinced that no matter who is elected president, we're not leaving Iraq anytime soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:21 PM on 03/17/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

Another obfuscation directly from Hillary's mouth. "Lie to the ignorant and uninformed!" -- that's her campaign strategy. She is immoral.

{"Out campaigning Senator Obama tells voters that as president he'd withdraw combat brigades from Iraq within 16 months, but one of his top foreign policy advisers told a different story," Sen. Clinton herself declared in a speech today.}

{In a rapid back-and-forth exchange at the end of the session, a reporter asked repeatedly whether Clinton would stick to withdrawing one to two brigades of troops a month even if there is a massive spike of violence as U.S. troops departed.

Trying his best to keep the campaign line, Lee Feinstein, Clinton's National Security Director, nevertheless acknowledged: "There are, in the world, contingencies."}

At least Lee Feinstein actually does understand what Samantha Powers meant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 03/17/2008
- billrott I'm a Fan of billrott 9 fans permalink

The YouTube clips make Hillary look like such a jackass. Her own words demonstrate that she lied about her views on the war. She used her so called experience as first lady to push for the war and now when the war is not popular she is saying I never wanted a war. What???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 03/17/2008
- BillMcKern I'm a Fan of BillMcKern 2 fans permalink

The correct word is "backpedal." It's not "backpeddle." Huff Po really needs to improve the headline writing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 03/17/2008

Ya that's the problem. Not the 12 billion dollar a month immoral and unjustified war of preemption Hillary authorized, nope not that, it's the spelling on The Huffington Post.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/17/2008
- Nommo I'm a Fan of Nommo 84 fans permalink
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Depends on who, or what is being sold...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/17/2008

BillMcKern. It is the thought that counts not the actual spelling. BTW Hillery, like most politicians act very mush like a craw daddy.For those who do not know craw daddy is a cray fish. Goes back wards faster than it goes fore ward.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 03/17/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

What will she say next week?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7DVHh1h3-0

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 03/17/2008

More than conditions on the ground in Iraq will be the conditions here at home. If our economy continues as it has, we will be leaving Iraq because we simply can't afford it any longer. Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, the U.A.E. all have standing armies. The U.N. has peacekeepers. Iraq has oil to pay for their own reconstruction. There is nothing to suggest that 1 to 2 brigades a month will not happen. It is clear that Hillary has looked at this problem in detail and is prepared to throw the kitchen sink at getting us out of Iraq. (pun intended) and at McCain, who will keep the war going until U.S. Markets crash, our credit rating is reduced, our dollar is worthless, our infrastructure is beyond repair, power outages, leaking reactors, environmental crisis, dumb kids, poisoned drinking water, jobless, homeless.. but it's okay folks.. WE WILL WIN IN IRAQ.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 03/17/2008
- Nommo I'm a Fan of Nommo 84 fans permalink
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Eelary, as in slippery as...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:51 PM on 03/17/2008
- CarbonDate I'm a Fan of CarbonDate 6 fans permalink
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Never believe a politician in an election year: period. Everything they say is completely disposable, and they are under no obligation to keep any of their promises.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:50 PM on 03/17/2008
- BonoX I'm a Fan of BonoX 4 fans permalink

1 small but important detail you left out conveniently - samantha power wasn't talking hypothetical (what if violence increase scenario) ... she was talking on the basis of current scenario!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 03/17/2008
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Was she? I heard her say that the situation is fluid and may change by the time the next president takes office. A rational comment, just like the one the Clinton campaign made.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 03/17/2008

It was 'rational' for the Clinton campaign to claim that they will withdraw troops even if violence increases? I think the word you were looking for there was 'falacy'...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 03/17/2008
- IslandGyal I'm a Fan of IslandGyal 50 fans permalink
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Have you ever heard the term, obvious things aren't mentioned? An intelligent person listening to the Samantha Powers interview, knows enough to infer, that what Senator Obama does, about removing the troops, within a specific timeframe, will be contingent upon what is happening on the ground, AFTER he gets reports, that he does NOT currently privy too. IF anyone else thinks otherwise, I am sorry, but I will have to question your intelligence, and I am NOT a Harvard graduate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 03/17/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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See..... Senator Obama is smart enough to know that what may be true today in Iraq, may not be true in January when he is sworn in as President of the United States.... It is good to be able to be flexible in your plans...

Hillary does not seem to understand that..... but then she doesn't seem to understand a lot of things...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 03/17/2008
- MPeter I'm a Fan of MPeter 25 fans permalink

Hillary is a pathological liar like her husband. Like Bill, she is a con artist, a neocon masquerading as a Democrat.. Watch the video.
http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/samgrahamfelsen/gGBKff

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/17/2008
- Nochnoi I'm a Fan of Nochnoi 130 fans permalink
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Are you so sure she is "playing?"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/17/2008
- IslandGyal I'm a Fan of IslandGyal 50 fans permalink
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Billary understands it, she's just playing stupid, when it's politically expedient.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:03 PM on 03/17/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 67 fans permalink
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Clinton's positions have changed with the polls - so what's new? There's no reason to think she'd change this strategy now. Hillary, real judgement does not involve polls and focus groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 03/17/2008
- Kally I'm a Fan of Kally 10 fans permalink

Doesn't make any difference. She probably has the best ideas in the world but the MSM and the male viagra poppers are going to twist and turn the ideas into ones for obama. No wonder the DailyKos writers went on strike. They have guts. With all the twisting, lying and obama ass kissing by the websites how would they stand it, if someone printed some thing about him and sex...I bet they would hunt the person down and want them jailed...after all you can't post anything bad about obama. The male websites have got to have him there so they can stick their head further up his butt that's their thrill.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 03/17/2008

It is funny that when I turn on the "msm" all I ever hear is pro-Hillary. Maybe the msm has discovered how to tune each of our tvs for maximum annoyance levels to keep us watching. Frankly though the msm is all Clinton all the time in my opinion, with very rare exceptions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/17/2008
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Clinton Says "We Cannot Win" Iraq War

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democrat Hillary Clinton charged on Monday the Iraq war may cost Americans $1 trillion and add strain to the sagging U.S. economy as she made her case for a prompt U.S. troop pullout from a war "we cannot win."

This week marks the fifth anniversary of the U.S. invasion of Iraq, but the economy's woes competed for attention as the top issue facing voters when they choose their next president in November.

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/washington/politics-usa-politics.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:46 PM on 03/17/2008
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http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D8VFALNO0&show_article=1

Chafee Raps Clinton As Bush Enabler

WASHINGTON (AP) - Former Sen. Lincoln Chafee, the lone Republican senator to vote against the Iraq war, calls Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton one of the "Democratic Bush enablers" who failed to stand up to the president.

In a new book, Chafee, who is backing Clinton rival Sen. Barack Obama, skewers Clinton and other Democratic White House hopefuls who said they were duped by Bush into voting for the war.

"Being wrong about sending Americans to kill and be killed, maim and be maimed, is not like making a punctuation mistake in a highway bill," Chafee writes. "They argue that the president duped them into war, but getting duped does not exactly recommend their leadership. Helping a rogue president start an unnecessary war should be a career- ending lapse of judgment, in my view."

Chafee says top Democrats put their political ambitions first in the fall of 2002.

"They were afraid that Republicans would label them soft in the post- September 11 world, and when they acted on that political self- interest, they helped the president send thousands of Americans and uncounted innocent Iraqis to their doom," he writes.

Last year, Chafee changed his party affiliation and became an independent. He recently endorsed Obama, who spoke out against the war in 2002 as an Illinois state lawmaker.

Chafee's hopes for a second full term in 2006 were dashed by Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse. Clinton was among leading Democrats, including Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid of Nevada, who campaigned in Rhode Island for Whitehouse.

Chafee's book is titled "Against The Tide: How a Compliant Congress Empowered a Reckless President." He succeeded his father, the late Sen. John Chafee, in the Senate in 1999 after the elder Chafee's death.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 03/17/2008

Pull the troops out ASAP, most of rest of the world will be relieved. They know we are war mongers.
Israel is a country in the middle east.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 03/17/2008
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