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Graham: I Never Wavered In My Belief That The War Was Wrong

Graham: I Never Wavered In My Belief That The War Was Wrong

March 17, 2008 09:55 AM


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As the war in Iraq completes its fifth year this week, The Huffington Post is featuring interviews with and essays by those journalists, elected officials, policymakers and former military officials who spoke out early and boldly against what they saw as an inevitable disaster. They join our Iraq Honor Roll.

From his perch as chairman of the Senate Intelligence Committee in the fall of 2002, former Sen. Bob Graham (D-FL) was privy to a wide range of viewpoints about a possible invasion of Iraq. And what he decided, after doing his homework, was that war simply didn't make sense. Not only did Iraq pose a negligible threat, he concluded, but the U.S. would be diverting resources from the more important front in Afghanistan. So he voted no on the president's request for authorization of the use of military force, just one of 23 Senators to do so. Now out of Congress, Graham reflects on that time period and cautions: if we don't learn from history, we are doomed to repeat it.

How did you grow convinced that the Iraq War was a bad idea?

I had, somewhat by accident, found out that the reality that Iraq was a trade-off for Afghanistan. I visited Central Command in February 2002, met with Tommy Franks and he told me that they were reducing their capabilities in Afghanistan in order to ship personnel and equipment to get ready for war in Iraq. The message was that we weren't really able to fight two battles concurrently. I then raised the question, which was the more important to U.S. interests: Iraq or Afghanistan?

I thought clearly it was Afghanistan. We asked for an NIE to support this. We got one and it was very squishy about what Iraq was doing, but the administration continued to heighten the drumbeats for war based on weapons of mass destruction. I just felt we were being manipulated and that the result was going to distract us from where our real enemies were.

Why didn't the other members of Senators do this type of homework?

I don't know you have to ask the people who made the decision who felt it was not necessary to have that piece of information to come to a conclusion. I think a lot of people, I guess, voted yes based on the old tradition that the president tells the truth. You can rely on what the president says and the president was saying we were facing an enormous threat that required our military.

Did you ever, at any point, think the war could be pulled off, that the U.S. was going to succeed?

I'm afraid I never wavered from my belief that this was a distraction that was going to come to a bad end in Iraq and an even worse end in Afghanistan.

What are your thoughts on the surge, more than a year in? Has it not been successful? Violence is down and the public seems more supportive of the war.

It depends on how you define success. War is an extension of politics. You don't fight a war independent of political objectives. And the political objectives of the surge were to create an environment in which the domestic politicians of Iraq could come together, make some tough decisions, help reunify the country, and be able to manage their affairs without the forever presence of 150,000 or more U.S. troops. By that standard, I don't think it has been a success. If we did in fact create an opening for political reconciliation, and I think our troops have preformed brilliantly, but their efforts were not utilized effectively by the Iraqi politicos.

Should the United States have a long-term military presence in Iraq? After all, we have a vested interest in the region and a national security interest in combating terrorism.

Iraq was not the hub of terrorist activity [before we invaded]. It was hardly even a participant in the war on terror, in part because [Osama] bin Laden and Saddam Hussein had a very open animosity if not hatred for each other. So we created the environment in which Iraq became a place where terrorists came to train and get ready for the next battle, much like Afghanistan itself was the training ground for terrorist in the 1980s war against Russia. I'm not very impressed with what a large U.S. presence in Iraq could contribute to our national security.

Can something like the Iraq War happen again? Can the U.S. Senate be whipped up by a war-bent administration to launch another preemptive or ill-thought invasion?
Well this wasn't the first time it happened.... [Remember] the vote for Gulf of Tonkin resolution?

We assume there was a continuity of people who experienced 2002 and saw the consequences of not challenging the president. But the 'we' that were there in 2002, probably a third or more of the members of the Senate who were there, aren't there any more, including myself. And by the next time we face this is it is likely there will be very few. One of the things [Senator] Bob Byrd brings to the Senate, having been there for so long, is a sense of history. And he uses it to make judgments today.


 
 

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- WeMustChange See Profile I'm a Fan of WeMustChange permalink

Hillary has so-called 35 years of experience but voted to authorize a war based on lies. Hillary will not get my vote, I'm giving it to a well deserved, honest, and ethical candidate in Barack Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 03/18/2008
- schoolmaster See Profile I'm a Fan of schoolmaster permalink

Bob Graham is a likely vice presidential candidate. Guess to whom.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:34 AM on 03/18/2008
- FunkyP See Profile I'm a Fan of FunkyP permalink

I have to add here that Ms. Allbright, when asked if the lives of 500,000 Iraqi children that were lost due to sanctions imposed by the U.S. were worth it, her reply was "YES".
The U.S. government, under Clinton and Bush, had a high disregard for the lives of the Iraqis. The facts speak for themselves.
And although I too applaud(ed) the opposition of Senator Graham to Bush's war, I wonder if he could have done more to convince his colleagues to oppose the war. As chairman of the powerful Intelligence Committee, he had access to information that most other Senators did not. Without revealing any secrets, he could have assured other Senators that the threat was over-exaggerated. But he did not.
Democrats now in power are even weaker and are more concerned with re-election than Constitutional duty.
Here's a typical response from my Senator, Bill Nelson (DINO-FL) to a letter I wrote urging impeachment

"While I"m also frustrated by the failures of the White House in both foreign and domestic policy, such action would be impractical. The president"s and vice president"s terms conclude next year. In the months immediately ahead, I believe the officials in Washington need to focus on working across the aisle to get results on the major challenges facing our country--not only on Iraq, but also on health care coverage and retirement security for all Americans."

This from the guy who was one of the few Democrats to vote for the Military Commissions Act of 2006. You know, the one that strips Habeas corpus rights.
As I have tried to explain to Ms. Pelosi in my letters to her; this is about your responsibility to protect and defend the Constitution. The Constitution does not say you may impeach if it's convenient at this time. The Constitution says you SHALL impeach when high crimes and misdemeanors have occurred. Does anyone dispute that such crimes have occurred?
Vote out all incumbents, and please run again Senator Graham. For Bill Nelsons seat. You have my vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 PM on 03/17/2008
- Marichu See Profile I'm a Fan of Marichu permalink

Sen. Bob Graham was and continues to be a man of integrity and honor. While serving as a US senator he fulfilled his obligations with all the entailed responsibilities of his office. He just didn"t sit back and allow one man to dictate the course for this country. As chairperson of the Senate Intelligence Committee in 2002 he helped instigate the NIE report that aided in casting doubt as to the validity of what was told to the American public by the Bush administration. To the determent of us all (including the Iraqis), very few senators even bothered to read the report. Had the senate been as diligent and as conscientious as Graham, we would not find ourselves in the predicament we are in now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 03/17/2008
- Counterglow See Profile I'm a Fan of Counterglow permalink

I'm proud to say I've accepted a few free drinks based on the fact that I correctly predicted well in advance that the US was going to invade Iraq no matter what, and that the whole WMD thing was a sham. There was sufficient information in the public domain to at the very least cast doubt on the administration's version of the facts.

If Senators and Congressmen didn't at ask enough pointed questions, it's their own damned fault. The shame is that so many lives have been sacrificed to their laziness and stupidity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/17/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Well, then it becomes the public's fault if we do not hold them accountable. Besides we should expect some integrity from the Oval Office, being president is not like conducting a giant game of three card monte.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 03/17/2008
- sammy333 See Profile I'm a Fan of sammy333 permalink

Thank you Senator for your courage. The deadly inertia of war is almost unstoppable from within. Those criminals who conspired to start that fire knew that. It did not matter how it starts, after that the naive people will always be told: we are already in a war, so let us have more of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/17/2008
- mach See Profile I'm a Fan of mach permalink

"Saddam's goal ... is to achieve the lifting of U.N. sanctions while retaining and enhancing Iraq's weapons of mass destruction programs. We cannot, we must not and we will not let him succeed." -- Madeline Albright, 1998

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 03/17/2008
- midtown See Profile I'm a Fan of midtown permalink

Albright was wrong. Anyone paying attention then and not to Clinton's troubles would know that. She was not a first-string choice for SoS. But she was a woman and Hillary wanted that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 AM on 03/18/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Right, Albright states we should hold Saddam accountable and uses strong rhetoric. Her rhetoric did not include regime change with its attendant consequences.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 03/17/2008
- mach See Profile I'm a Fan of mach permalink

"Whereas Iraq has consistently breached its cease-fire agreement between Iraq and the United States, entered into on March 3, 1991, by failing to dismantle its weapons of mass destruction program, and refusing to permit monitoring and verification by United Nations inspections; Whereas Iraq has developed weapons of mass destruction, including chemical and biological capabilities, and has made positive progress toward developing nuclear weapons capabilities" -- From a joint resolution submitted by Tom Harkin and Arlen Specter on July 18, 2002

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 03/17/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Yes, these statements were made given that Bush manipulated the intelligence. If the intelligence were not manipulated, hawks would not been as hawkisk and we could have had a honest debate on the Iraqi weapons capabilites. Besides the inspectors were there and not finding anything and Bush would not let them finish their jobs. They wanted to complete their mission.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:13 PM on 03/17/2008
- mach See Profile I'm a Fan of mach permalink

"This December will mark three years since United Nations inspectors last visited Iraq. There is no doubt that since that time, Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to refine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer- range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies." -- From a December 6, 2001 letter signed by Bob Graham, Joe Lieberman, Harold Ford, & Tom Lantos among others

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/17/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Yes, none of this material was true given that Bush and company manipulated the intelligence. He could have let the inspectors do their jobs. The UN International Atomic Energy Agency said that Saddam did not have a nuclear program and Bush tried to have its chief, Dr. Mohamed al-Baradei, fired.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 03/17/2008
- mach See Profile I'm a Fan of mach permalink

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs." -- From a letter signed by Joe Lieberman, Dianne Feinstein, Barbara A. Milulski, Tom Daschle, & John Kerry among others on October 9, 1998

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/17/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

The Downing Street Memo written by the head of MI6, the British intelligence service, stated: "Military conflict was now seen as necessary. Bush wanted to remove Saddam, through military action, justified by the conjunction of terrorism and WMD. But the intelligence and facts were being fixed around the policy...There was little discussion in Washington of the aftermath after miliary action."

This memo was written eight months or so before the start of the war and indicates Bush had every intention of going to war, despite whatever information there was on Saddam's weapons capabilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 03/17/2008
- raker See Profile I'm a Fan of raker permalink

It's not a war. It's an occupation. Calling it a war gives bush's abuse of power a degree of validation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 03/17/2008
- realpolitic See Profile I'm a Fan of realpolitic permalink

Perhaps it is a "police action," as Vietnam was.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:33 PM on 03/17/2008
- ssg13565 See Profile I'm a Fan of ssg13565 permalink

Apparently Hillary Clinton has trouble understanding men.

She was continually duped by her husband when it came to

extramarital affairs.

She was and is continually duped by George Bush whenever

he promises anything.

How will she be able to judge male leaders in the world with

whom she does not even share a common culture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/17/2008
- LiberalDemIda See Profile I'm a Fan of LiberalDemIda permalink

That is why I won't vote for Hillary Clinton. People need to realize that their votes in Congress to give Bush and his warmongering war-profiteurs are responsible for over 4,000 of our troops' deaths and over 30,000 maimed and scarred for life.

Remember this when voting for our next President. If the candidate is a war supporter and had supported the Iraq War Resolution then I will NOT vote for them.

So where are all those Bush/Cheney fans that were chanting "FOUR-MORE-YEARS! FOUR-MORE-YEARS!"? Most likely jumping out of tall buildings since those "FOUR-MORE YEARS" didn't pay out projected dividends of blood-money as they'd hoped.

Experience means diddle. It's all about INSIGHT, JUDGMENT, FORESIGHT. There's only ONE candidate that has all three of these.

If McCain becomes President helped by the Clintons and their die-hard supporters (since Obama supporters will not go overwhelmingly for Hillary) then watch for a draft to be instituted with the help of the DINOs in Congress because McCain keeps saying we're in Iraq for the LONG HAUL and if America allows him or Hillary to become president, that is his green-light we're backing him for more death and destruction in Iraq and soon after, Iran.

Mark my words...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:14 PM on 03/17/2008
- Doofus See Profile I'm a Fan of Doofus permalink

For the record, on the 'Authorization to Use Force in Iraq', it was 77 For & 23 Against.

The 23 consisted of 21 Demos, one Repo (Lincoln Chafee) & one independent (Jim

Jeffords, formerly a Repo). 29 of the 'For' votes, were Demos. Here's the thing, the

'political dynamic', that made it impossible for the Demos to stop the measure, as

they should have: ALL IT TOOK WAS two Demo VOTES 'For' the measure & it would

pass, as 48 Repos would vote 'Yes' & the VP would break a tie.

Try to identify the 2 most evil Demos who caved in first, because it was 'them that did it'.

Anyway, because of this, we should OBVIOUSLY elect John 'Big Dog' McCain to take over

for Bush next January, because 'Glorious Victory in Iraq is Almost Around the Corner Again!'

Or, maybe, just get over squabbling about that 'War Authorization' vote, and elect a Demo

who promises to, pledges to, COMMITS TO ending the War 'a.s.a.p.' (whatever that means).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 03/17/2008
- AZM See Profile I'm a Fan of AZM permalink

Why did we go to war? I strongly recommend the Bill Moyers Journal program called "Buying the War". It was aired in 2004 and again in 2007. You can buy it from PBS. A real eye-opener!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 03/17/2008
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