Obama's Race Speech: Damned If He Does, Damned If He Doesn't

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First Posted: 03-18-08 12:04 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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Here's what I know of Barack Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright is the pastor at a church in Chicago who, at various points in his life, walked into a room and said some pretty objectionable-slash-crazy-ass things about America. Barack Obama may or may not have been in the room at the time when he said these objectionable-slash-crazy-ass things, but he definitely was in the room with Wright at other times, when Wright may or may not have said other objectionable things. It is also apparent that Obama was in the room with Wright at times when Wright said other things, which Obama did not deem objectionable-slash-crazy-ass, but rather hopeful-slash-optimistic, and those things, said at that time, may have formed the backbone of certain principles that inspired Obama's political life. There may have been other people, in other rooms, who said other things to other people, including potentially Barack Obama, some of which may have been objectionable-slash-crazy-ass. Or not.

Got that? It is confusing. But not so much that I cannot empathize. Some years ago I wrote a graduate-school thesis, in which I believe I remarked that the way William Shakespeare manipulated the heartbeat of his iambic pentameter so as to effortlessly reveal his characters' internal states-of-mind was enough to qualify him as an absolute master of the English language, worthy of continued study and critical praise. But, as it turns out, Shakespeare wrote The Merchant of Venice, which includes a brutally anti-Semitic representation of a major character, and The Taming of the Shrew, which hardly takes an enlightened approach in its depiction of women. So, I guess I should renounce, denounce, reject, repudiate, disavow, disown, cast off, scorn, spurn, blackball, and -- ere the cock crows -- deny thrice for good measure, any previous compliment I may have paid a poet who once said things that I didn't agree with one hundred percent of the time. And Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, so he's a racist, and the university he founded which fueled my fascination with Shakespeare should be summarily rejected, denounced, et al., and maybe the country he helped to found, America, should also be renounced, dissed, and perhaps even damned by God, thus bringing us full circle.

All of this should teach all of us an important lesson: before you are born and proceed upon a life filled with both knowing people who stand in rooms and say things, and complimenting other people who stood in other rooms and said other things, you'd better think it all through! Because what's to be done after you've been caught not repudiating things that other people deem repudiatable? Or worse: what if, after you've repudiated those things, other people say that you didn't repudiate them hard enough?

That is essentially the fine pickle in which Barack Obama finds himself -- one that's entirely of his own making. He's made the fatal mistake of assuming that his "words" and his "explanations" and the "character" he's demonstrated through a lifetime of "actions" is sufficient in assuaging the concerns of voters. But he forgot about the need to satisfy the media. And clearly his previous denunciations of Reverend Wright's remarks have not been sufficient. And if you can't satisfy the media, can you really satisfy the voters, who the media will say aren't satisfied? Probably not.

But if I could ask a question of the media figures who are regularly calling for Obama to reject Wright today, who urged Clinton to reject Geraldine Ferraro the day before and who demanded Obama reject Louis Farrakhan earlier last week, it would be this: what would satisfy you? What action could any of these candidates take to settle the matter -- that they have their own ideas and positions and are not some sort of tabula rasa that sponges up only the most mean-minded things the people with whom they have come in contact with have espoused?

If you believe all the racket and clamor, it would seem that this occasion calls for Barack Obama to do something major, something grandiose, something that leaves no doubt at all that his feelings of rejection toward the statements of Reverend Wright are deep and vast and absolute. Maybe he should go so far as to invite Wright to a media event, and then hit him repeatedly with a large stick of some kind! It is possible, however, that even this might not be enough to satisfy some people, and, indeed, the violent acts, while leaving no doubt as to the ferocity of Obama's repudiation, may go too far, and offend others. Instead, Obama will go before the kliegs tomorrow and deliver a "major speech about race" that will likely actually be a "major speech about some crazy stuff a guy said during a sermon at a black church."

There's a good chance that his "major speech about race" will be sufficient, like the time Mitt Romney gave his "major speech about religion" that everyone loved and which solved all of his problems. But there's also a chance that his speech will fail and spell doom for his candidacy, like the time Mitt Romney gave his "major speech about religion" that everyone thought was phony and made the media remember how awesome John McCain was. If Obama fails to address the matter, it could be bad. But if he does address the matter, the results could be equally ungood, only maybe doubleplus so.

In the end, what will it matter? At some point, there will be other figures, and other remarks, that candidates will need to repudiate. If Obama survives, he may have to repudiate Tony Rezko by allowing Fox News to burn his house to the ground on national television. Someone might remember that John McCain has warmly embraced religious bigots of his own, and force McCain to subject them to the same tortures he faced as a soldier in order to ensure a perfect karmic balance. And if Clinton gets the nomination, well... let's just say I have it on good authority that she might be connected to a major political figure who was once put through an impeachment trial. Yeah. You may think we're not going to hear all about that sooner or later. But I'd think again if I were you. There's nothing the political media loves so much as the damnation game. In fact, that's probably the root of their beef with Reverend Wright in the first place: when he "damned America," he was muscling in on their turf.

Here's what I know of Barack Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright is the pastor at a church in Chicago who, at various points in his life, walked into a room and said some pretty objectiona...
Here's what I know of Barack Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright is the pastor at a church in Chicago who, at various points in his life, walked into a room and said some pretty objectiona...
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Reality check time. It is just March and Obama has been swift boated successfully based on guilt by association with the clergyman. Have we learned anything from this? No, that was the wrong answer when you just said how racist pigs are being unfair. That is not the point. What matters is that Obama is going to be on the losing end of a 50 state sweep by McCain unless we learn how to fight back.
A bunch of guilty white liberals and bitter black folks bemoaning how unfair the attacks are will not win elections. This attack on Obama has been a great success. Thirty million NASCAR dads bought every word of it, as did twenty million of what I call Personal Trainer Moms. Obama is not a Muslim, but he has been painted as someone who is unaware of the views of his clergyman, and someone who goes to a church where there is yelling and screaming about the big bad white man. This is enough to end up like George McGovern. Sad, it is March and we are getting the shit kicked out of us already. What is worse is that we don't know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 03/18/2008
- ArchAngel I'm a Fan of ArchAngel 10 fans permalink

schmuckwithearlaps is correct. Wishing will not help. Offense is the best defense - otherwise you wil always be on the defensive.

Swiftboating is American political jargon that is used (primarily) as a strong pejorative description of some kind of attack that the speaker considers unfair or untrue—for example, an ad hominem attack or a smear campaign. This used to be called a sucker punch.

A sucker punch is a violent act, either one in which the person being attacked is caught completely off guard, especially by deception; or else an attack executed to disable another, targeting a place on the body that is not normally targeted in a "fair fight".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 03/18/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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Swiftboating is TELLING LIES again and again, and not at all a "sucker punch" that you didn't see coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 03/18/2008
- Colonial82 I'm a Fan of Colonial82 2 fans permalink

You have no idea what you are taking about. It would be more likely to be a sweep in Obama's favor than McCain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 AM on 03/18/2008

The Republican machine will chew Obama up and spit him out. Obama comes with baggage as yet unvetted by the GOP. He will be lugging it around on the campaign trail -- should he get the nomination. Obama wants to fly high in the overhead bin, but: that baggage, if checked in, must remain unlocked for inspection.

Do you really think the GOP is going bypass a chance to examine the contents? Don't ignore McCain. He has a very good chance of winning the election in November.

I would have voted for Obama in November, even though he's inexperienced, and his reckless idealism seemed to offer some hope for a daring change of course. However captivating he may be, his overall judgement is lacking in clarity and vetted truth.

Obama has 1/2 of the Democratic leaning votes -- statistically Obama and Clinton are tied. Florida & Michigan are leaving a bad taste in 1/2 of those mouths. It is not who has the most votes or delegates on the Democratic side. It's who will win in November.

Neither Clinton, nor Obama are perfect people.

Clinton has learned to travel light by keeping her baggage to a minimum. Her contents are mostly full of old stuff, so it's doubtful the GOP will want to wave that around to the world -- again.

Obama has exceeded his weight limits. You pay extra in GOP attention for that miscalculation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 03/18/2008
- Citizen54 I'm a Fan of Citizen54 16 fans permalink

Sadly, I fear you are correct. The Republicans and other opponents of progress have been scrounging the earth looking for something to halt the Obama campaign. Now they have it. The comments of Rev. Wright are just the thing to push certain people to vote for McCain, or against the Democrat. McCain is wrong on everything, but hey, he's white. (And oh yeah, because he was a POW, he will keep us safe.)

"Personal Trainer Moms." Excellent, schmuckwithearlaps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/18/2008

"guilt by association" may indeed point to real guilt. It depends on the nature of the association. You don't, for example, want to associate with the mafia, or with David Duke for that matter, for that occasional friendly drink that lingers on for the rest of the afternoon, done on a weekly basis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 03/18/2008

You are right. If Obama goes on to win the nomination, we will have months of Rev. Wright screaming at us through swift boat ads. Are we willing to subject ourselves to that? The truth is Obama showed a lack of judgment by attending this church with his wife and two children for twenty years. Should one subject their children to this type of hate? Is that a lack of good judgment? You bet your sweet life it is!

If Obama gets the nomination, I will vote for McCain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:28 PM on 03/18/2008
- cfreedom I'm a Fan of cfreedom 3 fans permalink

Well kids, it looks like your selfishness is going to again cost the Dems the election. You can't see how the American people aren't going to buy him sitting there while his mentor trashes and gds America. He can't avoid the big punch coming and you all can't see the truth. The pastor simulated a sex act while he talked about Bill Clinton "riding dirty" and you all gloss over that too. You can win all the caucuses in the world with your tender, uninformed views, but the general is out of reach and you blind followers are all to blame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 03/18/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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selfishness?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 AM on 03/18/2008
- cfreedom I'm a Fan of cfreedom 3 fans permalink

Yes Marlyn, selfishness. Obama backers (those who post here anyway) are so into "their" sense that this is "their" time that a sense of entitlement has usurped good sense. People should be free to support whoever they want to support, but when people start ignoring facts and are not interested in a balanced picture because it counters what they want to believe, they've become selfish and that's what we have here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 03/18/2008
- colleen2 I'm a Fan of colleen2 5 fans permalink

Sure, Marlyn. It's a bunch of white guys commenting because everyone knows that they're the best qualified to speak about race issues in America. Poor things, it's such a burden.
Everyone knows that when you don't agree with them and particularly about what's best for you or the country, you're selfish.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 PM on 03/18/2008
- Donnat I'm a Fan of Donnat 22 fans permalink

no matter what he said, he's still a pastor, he's NOT the candidate. Wright and Obama appear to have become one in the eyes of Obama's detractors.

Obama proved what a great man he is with this speech. if he sat in a black church for 20 years and listened to a black pastor, so what? he's attended church for at least 20 years longer than most people out there who beat their chests and claim to be Christian, including shaved ape Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 03/18/2008

Some of us are smart enough to realize Rev.Wright is not running for President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:43 PM on 03/18/2008

Seems to me Obama didn't try to "avoid" the punch; he took it like a man and rolled with it. Shall we go examine Hillary's associates, again? Yawn. Of course, Hillary is really good at dodging, isn't she?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 03/18/2008
- ArchAngel I'm a Fan of ArchAngel 10 fans permalink

I've been watching all of the so called Wright clips and have not seen a single word that was not true.

NPR and CNN have been constantly flogging this non-issue to the exclusion of everything else. There is nothing here other than a rightfully angry black preacher. And that's the real scare message - angry black man!

NPR and CNN have been playing the race card for Billary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 03/18/2008
- bish66 I'm a Fan of bish66 4 fans permalink

Okay, let me get this straight: If a white person says something negative about Obama or his voters, then the statement is racist, but if Wright goes ballistic about white folks and America than he is just an 'angry black preacher'?

Reminds me of the Samuel L. Jackson character in Die Hard with a Vengeance.­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:03 AM on 03/18/2008

so, you have seen the clip where he accuses the Govt of creating the AIDS virus in order to kill the black race? And, you think it is true?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 03/18/2008
- dsmyre I'm a Fan of dsmyre 10 fans permalink

I would say that's ridiculous except I know about the Tuskeegee Syphilis Experiment.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tuskegee_Study_of_Untreated_Syphilis_in_the_Negro_Male
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:43 PM on 03/18/2008

Since when did having judgment mean only associating with angels? I, for one, would like a president (and boy, would it be a change) who has a wealth of experiences with a variety of types of people and who does not surround himself (or herself) with single-minded 'yes' men (or women). Even if we don't like what Wright said, it is valuable to understanding many dynamics in this country to know that many people in this country feel that way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 03/18/2008
- 2lib4oh I'm a Fan of 2lib4oh 10 fans permalink

The sheer audacity of Obama to transcend politics and admire qualities in others like
Reagan or Rev. Wright without the complete approval of either party!

The next thing you know he will be admiring Reagan for proposing an anti-nuclear system that was supposed to pave the way for the eventual elimination of nuclear weapons.As it was, all it did was champion a vision that resulted in agreements that
cut the strategic arsenals of the two superpowers in half!That drove the neocons like
Perle,Cheney , and Wolfowitz in his cabinet crazy.How dare Reagan!

Now he wants the man who inspired him to transcend politics and acknowledge that race is still a problem in America to be quiet so it won't offend anyone like good people over at Fox news? I am offeneded--by the narrow minds at Fox news , that is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 03/18/2008
- Looplinker I'm a Fan of Looplinker 3 fans permalink

There is a disturbing pattern emerging about Barak Obama. If only one incident had appeared it would not be much of a concern but the fact that there is a pattern gives one pause to consider exactly what kind of changes does he envisage.

Here is the pattern:
1) During the reciting of the Pledge of Allegiance Obama does not place his right hand over his heart.
2) Michelle Obama states that only after the Iowa caucuses: “Was the first time she felt proud to be an American”. This from a woman whose success may have depended on affirmative action – something that would have made me feel proud to be an American.
3) Now we hear and see his pastor (his spiritual advisor for 17 years) openly preach “God should damn America” and who openly supports Farrakan.

This is not guilt by association, it is guilt because of choice. Obama cannot claim that he did not know what his “uncle” was preaching. He did know, but still chose to remain in that congregation where bigotry and ignorance were being spewed from the pulpit.

The pattern is clear enough. Ignore at your own peril.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 03/18/2008
- Leonard I'm a Fan of Leonard 4 fans permalink

For goodness sake where have you been..you don't read that is for sure.

It was not the pledge ...the National Anthum was being played. Shame on you for not allowing yourself to be informed and remaining ignorant.

I am proud of America and what we are trying to accomplish for the first time in a long time....ge­t beyond the hate and divisiveness.

It was his Pastor's words..not his...

Paleeeeze

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 03/18/2008

It is indeed unfortunate that you disturb so easily.

Let me lessen your disturbances:

1. Obama is not the only American who doesn't place his right hand over his heart during Pledge of Allegiance. If that were ever a "rule," I could be accused of violating it and I am patriotic to the core. This is trivial, so strike that from your disturbance list.

2. Don't all public figures misspeak at times, omit details, apologize for same and move on? So should you.

3. Yeah, Rev. Wright has said made some incendiary comments. Key here is Rev. Wright made those comments, not Barack Obama. So please be undisturbed.

I think this should remove these 3 items from your [easily] disturbed list.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 03/18/2008
- DRHoen I'm a Fan of DRHoen 3 fans permalink

Attempts to understand and reconcile the past, and to understand and improve the present and future do not jeopardize one's country, but blind faith patriotism of the type you display, Looplinker, will lead to its destruction. Ignore at your own peril.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 03/18/2008
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 20 fans permalink

The fact that you consider these issues important when deciding who to support for POTUS is what is truly disturbing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 AM on 03/18/2008
- bish66 I'm a Fan of bish66 4 fans permalink

Wasn't it 20 years of knowing Wright and 17 years of knowing Rezko? Did his friendship with both start at the same time? Coincident?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 AM on 03/18/2008

How many years do you suppose Hillary knew her husband was cheating on her with other women. And once it was exposed she didn't end her marriage did she. I don't see anyone holding her responsible for Bills actions.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 03/18/2008

Say, I've heard recently that Huffpost is too Pro Obama. Someone even accused the Post of selling out. Is there anyplace comparable for Hillary supporters? If so, why aren't you hanging out over there drinking her koolaid? If not, why not? Doesn't she have any organized grass roots support? Or is it just you lone and lonely oldsters?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 03/18/2008
- photochick I'm a Fan of photochick 9 fans permalink

Thank you for this post. I have been obsessed with watching and enjoying being involved again for the first time in years with this primary. But, I am taking a media break -- who knows -- maybe forever. I think we as a citizenry should look up and expose all the bad characters and bad decisions and bad behavior of most of our media pundits. Could they be as perfect as they are trying to force candidates to be? Oh yeah, they aren't running for public office so they don't have to be perfect. Except that they probably have more influence over the public than most politicians -- sad to say. I'm sick of turning on the cable channels 2-3 days after a story breaks and the public has more or less forgotten and moved on from only to have these pundits still going on and on and on and on and on for hours in a day. Enough. I've actually put a parental lock on MSNBC and CNN so that I don't accidently click on to those stations anymore. Hmmm. Maybe I'll read a paper or --- a blog.

What's I think is so funny about this whole Obama/Pastor situation is that some of the things he says are true -- 911 DID happen because of our foreign policy you ninnies!!!!!!! Hello???? Can't we handle the truth for once.

Ok. Rant over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 03/18/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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"I am taking a media break -- who knows -- maybe forever."

Good for you. I cancelled my cable TV service 5 years ago when the News stopped being the News and turned into propaganda, and I don't miss it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 03/18/2008
- mickeyrat I'm a Fan of mickeyrat 2 fans permalink

This is one of the best posts I've read on Huffington, specifically because although written in defense of Obama, the author makes the point that it applies to ALL candidates. If, as an Obama or Hillary supporter, it doesn't make you think twice about the charges you hurl at the opposing candidate, as though they were sitting there plotting out every word their surrogates say, then you don't have a brain to think with.

And I'd be very interested in an example of Shakespeare's manipulation of the iambic pentameter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 03/18/2008

The best comments I've read on this subject come from Andrew Sullivan writing for the "Atlantic". I wish more Americans had the ability to write and think with Sullivan's clarity.

http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/the-testing-of.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 03/18/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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grrrfren, thanks for the link.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/18/2008
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Okaaay....­..lets see...I have gone thru the facination stage.....­..digust stage.....­and now I am back to reality.I have "served" my country as I currently have offsprings that are "serving" my country. There are questions that they are asking me about the public "thrashing" of Obama , I have to tell the truth. son ,daugther, there seems there is NOT a threshold that you can reach.....­.......tha­t the mere mention of your BLACKNESS will not be called into question. That is the truth.....­.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 03/18/2008

Dude (or Ma'am), so? The bar is still there, that's a fact. But it's lower today than its ever been before. If you served your country, I assume you aren't a coward. Why encourage your children to be?

A boil sometimes has to be lanced before it can heal. Sometimes it has to be lanced repeatedly. Of course, what you tell your children is your perogative. But I'm not going down without a fair fight. What we've got is too good, to precious to see it discarded just because it got a little mud on it.

Not black, but who cares?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 03/18/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 640 fans permalink
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I do not support the current President - in fact I despise him.

I do not support this war - in fact I think it is criminal

Am I UnPatriotic? Am I NOT a "true American"?

Part of what so many people feel about Obama is that he seems to understand our feelings. he is not selling the usual Political wares - but facing realities that We the People see and feel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 AM on 03/18/2008

But the reverand did not say "God damn the President or Godamn the lies that took us to war". He said "God damn the USA" presumably even if we did not go to war and there was no George Bush.
And there in lies the problem.

I sense he said these things long before Bush came to power and it is likely Obama and Michelle sat through some of that stuff. The extent of his rant suggests that they are borne out of core beliefs and not a one-time thing. Michelle certainly shows that she has carried this belief in her statements. Being a poor person of no privilege she was given the opportunity to go to Princeton and Harvard based on her merit. This is only possible in the USA - the Obamanuts have no clue how bad and unfair other places around the world are!!! And she is showing no gratitude but a lot of arrogance!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 AM on 03/18/2008
- mijumom I'm a Fan of mijumom 14 fans permalink

Michelle Obama said "for the first time in my adult life I am REALLY proud of my country"..­.proud before but REALLY proud now. You've been played.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:42 AM on 03/18/2008
- Wilson33 I'm a Fan of Wilson33 7 fans permalink

It's really sad to see the logic of liberals. Especially liberals who are in the tank for Obama, not matter who the guy is and what is believes.

I'll keep this short. All we want from Obama is the truth. That means, fess up to hearing these things and knowing that your pastor and mentor said them and believes them. Fess up to also sitting and being present around sermons that might not have been as inflammatory as what we've heard, but close to it. Fess up to knowing the theology and message of your pastor and stop acting like you are just finding all of this now. And finally, now that you've fessed up to all of this, exactly, what impact has this had on your life and your decisions and your attitudes towards white people? Are you really an agent of change or are you more of the same? You are always talking about the future and changing the way things are done, but you have a pastor and mentor that lives completely in the past and is obviously still very angry about the past. Its called being honest. That's all we want, not the media, me, as a voter, that's what I want.

And your comparisons to Shakespeare and Jefferson can be shot down by saying that the times were totally different by in their days then they are in 2008 and you really can't compare the two.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/18/2008

And your argument can also be shot down by saying that the times are different today than in 2001, and definitely different than during the Clinton years of the 20th century!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 03/18/2008

"No matter what he believes" ?? Obviously, you didn't listen to the speech he just gave.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/18/2008
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This is the first time a presidental candidate has been held responsible for what a preacher has said. How sad..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/18/2008
- rkrenke I'm a Fan of rkrenke 20 fans permalink

Thousands dead in Iraq, our economy in shambles, an incompetent and dangerous administration. . .

And, this is what everyone's talking about? This country has become nothing more than a nation of mindless fools.

I have no doubt that Obama is capable of putting Reverend Wright's sermons into context. Stop letting the MSM and FAUX News define the message of the day. . .geez!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/18/2008
- CraigMM I'm a Fan of CraigMM 8 fans permalink

Please stop trying to make excuses for Barack Obama....e­nough already!

This is not about a kooky supporter who said a dumb thing. This is a man who said horrific things. He said the US brought 9-11 on itself, that the US government gave Aids to black people to control them, that the US government gave drugs to black people to control them and eventually to incarcerate them. that the Jews are Zionists and he consistently refers to the US as the KKK of America. These are really troubling statements.

I am sure that Wright has done some good things in his lifetime, but it is more likely that he has actually been part of the problem of racial divisiveness in this country for the last 15 or 20 years rather than part of the solution. This hatred is wrong on so many levels. It is not okay to preach this hatred to people and it is naive to think that it hasn't had some negative affect on his parishoners.

Obama had 20 other churches to choose from if he ever felt that this was not appropriate teachings, but he didn't. In fact, he had this hateful man marry him and Michele, christen his daughters, act as his spiritual advisor and mentor and work closely with him for 20 years. He took his daughters to hear this hate week in and week out.

That is not judgement that I respect. I will not make excuses for him. As a lifelong progressive Democrat I cannot vote for him now or ever because of this (at least not without a number of years of effort to show that he is beyond this). We are all judged by the people we surrounf ourselves with and few have been as close to Obama over the past 20 years as Wright.

His campaign has turned into "Do as I say, not as I do" and that is not going to work. This is sad in many ways, but his campaign is over and the sooner he takes the high ground and endorses Hillary, the sooner the party can focus on winning in November.

No excuses can explain away the past 20 years. This is a death blow for his campaign because Wright has said things that are that horrible. If you really want things to get better, than Wright deservers the balme for being part of the problem and Obama deserves the blame for not standing up and saying this is not okay. It is 20 years too late now and only seems calculated by his timing.

It is time to move forward as a united party with HRC as our nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 03/18/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 79 fans permalink
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"This is a man who said horrific things." ???

I disagree. This is a man who spoke the TRUTH which you find horrific. I'm not offended by Rev.Wright­'s words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 03/18/2008

No, with Obama as our nominee, you Hillary supporters seem to forget who has the majority of pledged deligates and is pulling even in super deligates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:49 PM on 03/18/2008
- lenoirlady I'm a Fan of lenoirlady 12 fans permalink

Too long to spend time on. Just say it. This is a blog, not an book.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:35 PM on 03/18/2008

A brilliant post. Thanks for your clear perspective. Any odd thing can be red meat for the media, and I think you are right. And, the Hillary shills will pick up right where the media leaves off. I look forward to his speech, and can only wish him the best and hope that he survives the analysis the media is bound to give. They will find bad in it no matter what. I am sure they would find bad in anyone - no doubt even God! Obviously, we can not compare Obama to our idea of the perfected being - he, like all of us, is far from it. But, they would gladly spread the false rumors that Jesus slept with whores, and all the talk about viper's brood and giving unto Caesar I am sure that they would find dangerously anti-Roman. Obama is still my guy, for a good chance to turn around some of the politics of our damned government.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:58 AM on 03/18/2008
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Stop protecting him.

Think of the American people, rather than your Golden Guy, Candidate.

Vetting is part of the political process. Don't you wan't that to apply to your candidate as well?

The American people should know who they will be electing as President.

You should take your blinders off, and choose or not choose a candidate based on all the FACTS!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 03/18/2008

And, the Hillary shills will pick up right where the media leaves off.
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Always find a way to "blame hillary" dont you?

They have not said a word about it.

73% of Americans said they find the comments "racially divisive". That aint her fault.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 03/18/2008

Well, even Hillary shows some restraint at times - especially where it involves race, particularly since that political base, previously thought to be hers, has been seriously eroded by Barack. I think this is called political calculation, or is that, too, an attribute(?) that doesn't apply to holy Hillary?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 03/18/2008
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