Obama's Race Speech: Damned If He Does, Damned If He Doesn't

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First Posted: 03-18-08 12:04 AM   |   Updated: 03-28-08 05:12 AM

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Here's what I know of Barack Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright is the pastor at a church in Chicago who, at various points in his life, walked into a room and said some pretty objectionable-slash-crazy-ass things about America. Barack Obama may or may not have been in the room at the time when he said these objectionable-slash-crazy-ass things, but he definitely was in the room with Wright at other times, when Wright may or may not have said other objectionable things. It is also apparent that Obama was in the room with Wright at times when Wright said other things, which Obama did not deem objectionable-slash-crazy-ass, but rather hopeful-slash-optimistic, and those things, said at that time, may have formed the backbone of certain principles that inspired Obama's political life. There may have been other people, in other rooms, who said other things to other people, including potentially Barack Obama, some of which may have been objectionable-slash-crazy-ass. Or not.

Got that? It is confusing. But not so much that I cannot empathize. Some years ago I wrote a graduate-school thesis, in which I believe I remarked that the way William Shakespeare manipulated the heartbeat of his iambic pentameter so as to effortlessly reveal his characters' internal states-of-mind was enough to qualify him as an absolute master of the English language, worthy of continued study and critical praise. But, as it turns out, Shakespeare wrote The Merchant of Venice, which includes a brutally anti-Semitic representation of a major character, and The Taming of the Shrew, which hardly takes an enlightened approach in its depiction of women. So, I guess I should renounce, denounce, reject, repudiate, disavow, disown, cast off, scorn, spurn, blackball, and -- ere the cock crows -- deny thrice for good measure, any previous compliment I may have paid a poet who once said things that I didn't agree with one hundred percent of the time. And Thomas Jefferson owned slaves, so he's a racist, and the university he founded which fueled my fascination with Shakespeare should be summarily rejected, denounced, et al., and maybe the country he helped to found, America, should also be renounced, dissed, and perhaps even damned by God, thus bringing us full circle.

All of this should teach all of us an important lesson: before you are born and proceed upon a life filled with both knowing people who stand in rooms and say things, and complimenting other people who stood in other rooms and said other things, you'd better think it all through! Because what's to be done after you've been caught not repudiating things that other people deem repudiatable? Or worse: what if, after you've repudiated those things, other people say that you didn't repudiate them hard enough?

That is essentially the fine pickle in which Barack Obama finds himself -- one that's entirely of his own making. He's made the fatal mistake of assuming that his "words" and his "explanations" and the "character" he's demonstrated through a lifetime of "actions" is sufficient in assuaging the concerns of voters. But he forgot about the need to satisfy the media. And clearly his previous denunciations of Reverend Wright's remarks have not been sufficient. And if you can't satisfy the media, can you really satisfy the voters, who the media will say aren't satisfied? Probably not.

But if I could ask a question of the media figures who are regularly calling for Obama to reject Wright today, who urged Clinton to reject Geraldine Ferraro the day before and who demanded Obama reject Louis Farrakhan earlier last week, it would be this: what would satisfy you? What action could any of these candidates take to settle the matter -- that they have their own ideas and positions and are not some sort of tabula rasa that sponges up only the most mean-minded things the people with whom they have come in contact with have espoused?

If you believe all the racket and clamor, it would seem that this occasion calls for Barack Obama to do something major, something grandiose, something that leaves no doubt at all that his feelings of rejection toward the statements of Reverend Wright are deep and vast and absolute. Maybe he should go so far as to invite Wright to a media event, and then hit him repeatedly with a large stick of some kind! It is possible, however, that even this might not be enough to satisfy some people, and, indeed, the violent acts, while leaving no doubt as to the ferocity of Obama's repudiation, may go too far, and offend others. Instead, Obama will go before the kliegs tomorrow and deliver a "major speech about race" that will likely actually be a "major speech about some crazy stuff a guy said during a sermon at a black church."

There's a good chance that his "major speech about race" will be sufficient, like the time Mitt Romney gave his "major speech about religion" that everyone loved and which solved all of his problems. But there's also a chance that his speech will fail and spell doom for his candidacy, like the time Mitt Romney gave his "major speech about religion" that everyone thought was phony and made the media remember how awesome John McCain was. If Obama fails to address the matter, it could be bad. But if he does address the matter, the results could be equally ungood, only maybe doubleplus so.

In the end, what will it matter? At some point, there will be other figures, and other remarks, that candidates will need to repudiate. If Obama survives, he may have to repudiate Tony Rezko by allowing Fox News to burn his house to the ground on national television. Someone might remember that John McCain has warmly embraced religious bigots of his own, and force McCain to subject them to the same tortures he faced as a soldier in order to ensure a perfect karmic balance. And if Clinton gets the nomination, well... let's just say I have it on good authority that she might be connected to a major political figure who was once put through an impeachment trial. Yeah. You may think we're not going to hear all about that sooner or later. But I'd think again if I were you. There's nothing the political media loves so much as the damnation game. In fact, that's probably the root of their beef with Reverend Wright in the first place: when he "damned America," he was muscling in on their turf.

Here's what I know of Barack Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright is the pastor at a church in Chicago who, at various points in his life, walked into a room and said some pretty objectiona...
Here's what I know of Barack Obama and the Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Wright is the pastor at a church in Chicago who, at various points in his life, walked into a room and said some pretty objectiona...
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- fortuna I'm a Fan of fortuna 2 fans permalink

Brilliant - Thank you so much!

I also think its interesting how the Catholic church finally had to close its doors because everyone left over the pedophile priest business. What's that? They're still operating? Oh, but at least none of their parishoners are gay or use birth control or have been divorced or anything. What? Oh, never mind. (Not picking on the Catholics - just making a point. I could also note how none of my Baptist friends drink, dance or have premarital sex, but then I'd just be lying.)

Personally, I've decided that I must be an anti-Semite and a supporter of Hugo Chavez because I like the Lethal Weapon movies and I haven't repudiated, rejected, renounced, denounced, etc. Mel Gibson and Danny Glover.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 AM on 03/18/2008

Obama could have left the church if he found Wright's comments so damned offensive! But he didn't, that's "judgment" all right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 AM on 03/18/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

Leaving one's church is tougher than that!....many people stop going, but they don't leave the church. And hell Obama could hear the same rhetoric walking through any poor black urban community on any given day. Flyguy14222 go read Frank Schaeffer's piece on this website about what is said in churches of the Religious Right every Sunday...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 03/18/2008
- SeekerOne I'm a Fan of SeekerOne 11 fans permalink
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They don't care about the hypocrisy. They just want to use this as a political tool. Sharks smelling blood and all. You're looking for reason where none exists, I'm afraid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 03/18/2008

Apparently he could hear the same rhetoric at home from his wife. Her comments have been consistent with the Rev. Wright's teachings.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 AM on 03/18/2008
- Camel54 I'm a Fan of Camel54 22 fans permalink
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Have you given up friends, left your school or church or place of business every time someone said something that offended you? Must be a very lonely place in your room where there's nothing to offend you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 AM on 03/18/2008

Where should he run to flyguy? all ministers say thing you or I would not agree on! Do we leave leave a church and than another and then another---------------because some one might stick us with a association clause of we are our pasters keepers, and unto what he says we must be judged. No people that is not in the bible. flyguy this is political and your falling into the Media's trap of trying to steal this election away from the people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 AM on 03/18/2008

So are all cathlics pedafiles? After all they knew most those fathers all thier lives, and was baptist and married and was friends with them for most of thier lives! it's time to let this die! Or we will have to associate Hillary with being a adultress and racist, because she lived and slept with, was mentered and married to a adultress and racist for over 20 years. she is know quielty by association of Protecting a adulter in her home, and agreed with his racist views-------other wisse she would have just movsed on to the next man. And before you get to excited about obama loseing ground -----------------you should know Court starts today Mr. Paul vs. Billl Hillary clinton-----------and it seems he has a paper trail to prove he gave them a whole bunch of money that never appeared on thier finance records. TUNE IN FOR THE NEXT POLITICAL FALL OUTs!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 AM on 03/18/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 31 fans permalink

That's because Rev. Wright didn't talk like that all the time....the 2 clips were taken from 2 sermons that were years apart. He has good "judgment"! Enough to know that there are people that may not be able to understand "don't judge me by what my Rev. says".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/18/2008

Where's the video of him sitting in the pew? And just because you are sitting in a pew doesn't mean you are agreeing with everything you're hearing.

Jesus Christ, if you listened to some of you people seriously you'd think that the human mind had no ability to discern what it agrees with and what it finds offensive. So, listening to some of you, we're only supposed to listen to people we agree with. Well - we have someone who only listens to people he agrees with in the White House right now, and a great lot of good that's done this country and the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 03/18/2008

Read more than this article. This revelation has effected both the current polls and Barack's chances in the general election.

Obama's core adherents are so mesmerized (or caught by white guilt) and they can't step back and see what this really means. Clinton has been viciously personally attacked - what if it was revealed that her pastor made similar remarks against blacks and she stayed in the church for 20 years? Not 'missing' a particular sermon - but using the same pastor to baptizer her child, and perform her marriage.

Step back, die-hards - this is a very bad revelation for your messiah who's now shown to have more than feet of clay and Wright's sermons did not become controversial last week.

An ABC News review of dozens of Rev. Wright's sermons, offered for sale by the church, found repeated denunciations of the U.S. based on what he described as his reading of the Gospels and the treatment of black Americans.

"The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing 'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible for killing innocent people," he said in a 2003 sermon. "God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme."

In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda's attacks because of its own terrorism.

"We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye," Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

This is hate-speech. This may be acceptable rhetoric to the Obama crowd - but it will be fodder for the McCain campaign and I for one do not want to be saddled with Bush-3 just to support the Clinton hate crowd that trying to prove they can rise above racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 03/18/2008

First of all, you assume that because I am an Obama bot that didn't think he had anything wrong with him. Ridiculous. He's not a god, he's a politician. When I compare him to Clinton, do I think he has less skeletons in the closet? Yes, I do, by a landslide. Do I think he has better ideas? Also, by a seven minute mile.

Second of all, I think it's unjustifiably stupid to think that becausea person hears something they have to believe it. I'm willing to bet that you hear things your friends and relatives say that you don't agree with or find offensive, and still talk to them or (gasp!) even love them.

Lastly, I'm so tired of the 9/11 thing. Bill Maher said as much and, hey, he has a wildly popular show on HBO that I bet most liberals watch and like. The Repubs get Falwell and that ilk saying that the gays helped cause 9/11. It's a tiresome argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/18/2008
- VespaGirl I'm a Fan of VespaGirl 5 fans permalink

Why should we "step back"? Because we're supposed to be afraid of "angry black men"? What, exactly, is it that you're afraid of? What, precisely, do you think Obama is going to do as President - lock up all the white men? Come on, get real.

People can't honestly believe that Barack Obama agrees with everything Wright says or plans to act as some kind of facilitator for Wright's views. This has descended into craziness and if the two candidates weren't so close they wouldn't be scrutinizing such minutiae.

If Obama were so influenced by some of the crazy things this guy said he would have acted on them during his time as State Senator or U.S. Senator. He's had years in public service. Look at his records. What has he done in his public life that's in any way related to Rev. Wright?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 03/18/2008
- anghiari I'm a Fan of anghiari 22 fans permalink

Smayhew--save a bit of your outrage for ALL those to speak their version of fire and brimstone from the pulpit

"When Senator Obama's preacher thundered about racism and injustice Obama suffered smear-by-association. But when my late father -- Religious Right leader Francis Schaeffer -- denounced America and even called for the violent overthrow of the US government, he was invited to lunch with presidents Ford, Reagan and Bush, Sr.

Every Sunday thousands of right wing white preachers (following in my father's footsteps) rail against America's sins from tens of thousands of pulpits. They tell us that America is complicit in the "murder of the unborn," has become "Sodom" by coddling gays, and that our public schools are sinful places full of evolutionists and sex educators hell-bent on corrupting children. They say, as my dad often did, that we are, "under the judgment of God." They call America evil and warn of immanent destruction. By comparison Obama's minister's shouted "controversial" comments were mild. All he said was that God should damn America for our racism and violence and that no one had ever used the N-word about Hillary Clinton.

Dad and I were amongst the founders of the Religious right. In the 1970s and 1980s, while Dad and I crisscrossed America denouncing our nation's sins instead of getting in trouble we became darlings of the Republican Party. (This was while I was my father's sidekick before I dropped out of the evangelical movement altogether.) We were rewarded for our "stand" by people such as Congressman Jack Kemp, the Fords, Reagan and the Bush family. The top Republican leadership depended on preachers and agitators like us to energize their rank and file. No one called us un-American.

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Consider a few passages from my father's immensely influential America-bashing book A Christian Manifesto. It sailed under the radar of the major media who, back when it was published in 1980, were not paying particular attention to best-selling religious books. Nevertheless it sold more than a million copies.

Here's Dad writing in his chapter on civil disobedience:



If there is a legitimate reason for the use of force [against the US government]... then at a certain point force is justifiable.


And this:


In the United States the materialistic, humanistic world view is being taught exclusively in most state schools... There is an obvious parallel between this and the situation in Russia [the USSR]. And we really must not be blind to the fact that indeed in the public schools in the United States all religious influence is as forcibly forbidden as in the Soviet Union....


Then this:



There does come a time when force, even physical force, is appropriate... A true Christian in Hitler's Germany and in the occupied countries should have defied the false and counterfeit state. This brings us to a current issue that is crucial for the future of the church in the United States, the issue of abortion... It is time we consciously realize that when any office commands what is contrary to God's law it abrogates it's authority. And our loyalty to the God who gave this law then requires that we make the appropriate response in that situation...

Was any conservative political leader associated with Dad running for cover? Far from it. Dad was a frequent guest of the Kemps, had lunch with the Fords, stayed in the White House as their guest, he met with Reagan, helped Dr. C. Everett Koop become Surgeon General. (I went on the 700 Club several times to generate support for Koop).

Dad became a hero to the evangelical community and a leading political instigator. When Dad died in 1984 everyone from Reagan to Kemp to Billy Graham lamented his passing publicly as the loss of a great American. Not one Republican leader was ever asked to denounce my dad or distanced himself from Dad's statements.

Take Dad's words and put them in the mouth of Obama's preacher (or in the mouth of any black American preacher) and people would be accusing that preacher of treason. Yet when we of the white Religious Right denounced America white conservative Americans and top political leaders, called our words "godly" and "prophetic" and a "call to repentance."

We Republican agitators of the mid 1970s to the late 1980s were genuinely anti-American in the same spirit that later Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson (both followers of my father) were anti-American when they said God had removed his blessing from America on 9/11, because America accepted gays. Falwell and Robertson recanted but we never did.

My dad's books denouncing America and comparing the USA to Hitler are still best sellers in the "respectable" evangelical community and he's still hailed as a prophet by many Republican leaders. When Mike Huckabee was recently asked by Katie Couric to name one book he'd take with him to a desert island, besides the Bible, he named Dad's Whatever Happened to the Human Race? a book where Dad also compared America to Hitler's Germany.

The hypocrisy of the right denouncing Obama, because of his minister's words, is staggering. They are the same people who argue for the right to "bear arms" as "insurance" to limit government power. They are the same people that (in the early 1980s roared and cheered when I called down damnation on America as "fallen away from God" at their national meetings where I was keynote speaker, including the annual meeting of the ultraconservative Southern Baptist convention, and the religious broadcasters that I addressed.

Today we have a marriage of convenience between the right wing fundamentalists who hate Obama, and the "progressive" Clintons who are playing the race card through their own smear machine. As Jane Smiley writes in the Huffington Post "[The Clinton's] are, indeed, now part of the 'vast right wing conspiracy.' http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-smiley/im-already-against-the-n_b_90628.htmll )

Both the far right Republicans and the stop-at-nothing Clintons are using the "scandal" of Obama's preacher to undermine the first black American candidate with a serious shot at the presidency. Funny thing is, the racist Clinton/Far Right smear machine proves that Obama's minister had a valid point. There is plenty to yell about these days.

Frank Schaeffer is a writer and author of "CRAZY FOR GOD-How I Grew Up As One Of The Elect, Helped Found The Religious Right, And Lived To Take All (Or Almost All) Of It Back

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 03/18/2008
- Camel54 I'm a Fan of Camel54 22 fans permalink
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Wright did not damn America, he suggested God is, God will or God should damn America for such behavior. Among those who have said similar things, Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell--shall we pull out the footage of McCain or Bush or anyone else shaking hands and cozying up to them?

Aside from that, any preacher who has compared America in any way to Sodom/Gomorrah has by implication suggested that God is or God will or God should damn America in much the same way He is said to have done to those two cities.

What baffles me is the utter ridiculousness of this whole affair. We act like we're such a bad-ass country of people who can defeat anyone with our might and our ingenuity and our blessings from on high--but we can't withstand some guy being pissed off at the country for giving his race a raw deal. A few words and we're all gasping, holding our bosoms and nearly fainting. Are we really such pansies that we can't handle a little angry speech?

I think you folks who are up in arms about Rev. Wright need to slap a little Vagisil on your problem, buck up and move on. In case you haven't noticed, our economy is collapsing around us and all we can do is gripe that Fiddler is playing too loud while it does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 03/18/2008
- Charmed I'm a Fan of Charmed 31 fans permalink

If you and ABC are so offended by what Rev. Wright is saying then stop buying his videos.......I mean really. How about go on a witch hunt of all churches and buy their videos also....if you don't like what the Rev. said, DON'T LISTEN TO HIM....I haven't heard anything but the clips they keep playing over and over on tv and each time they play it, it shocks me even less......they are desensitizing the public to his words without even realizing it.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/18/2008

If Obama has made a mistake it is in not defending his church and his minister. His political enemies are attempting to defeat him by smearing the black church. This is not a time for ducking and weaving. If Hillary was a smart as I used to think she is, SHE would come to the defense of the black church. I expect this crap from Republicans. I guess its true that the Democrats are the new Republicans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:43 AM on 03/18/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

Indeed. Obama disingenuously distancing himself from his pastor in order to appease his racist critics looks worse than standing by him. Pastor Wright was absolutely correct in his assessment and criticisms of American and I wouldn't feel comfortable voting for anyone who would denounce his biting insights. This incident has made Obama look weak-kneed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 AM on 03/18/2008
- loria I'm a Fan of loria 158 fans permalink
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The point of this article is damned if you do and damned if you don't and your post highlights the truth of this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 AM on 03/18/2008

Hillary was a smart as I used to think she is, SHE would come to the defense of the black churc
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Why should she defend a church that said she was unacceptable as a president for not being black? Or that TRASHED her husbands work with the black community is such a rude way, designed to alieante black voters from her?

WHY???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:16 AM on 03/18/2008

I know that there would not be a double standard for black preachers versus white preachers or black churches versus white churches.

In the last couple of years, my church has become socially active and ministers have said things that are politically incorrect, as interpreted by the right wing and the Corporate News Media. Therefore, I hereby reject and denounce the Methodist Church. As I may want to run for political office in the future, I also proclaim that I am no longer a member of the Methodist Church.

Of course, I also expect that all Baptists reject and denounce and leave their church due to Baptist preachers proclaiming that 9/11 was God’s retribution for the U.S. permitting homosexuality. Of course, I also expect all Catholics who have supported the Iraq war to reject and denounce the Pope who has declared the Iraq war to be immoral.

If I were an atheist, I would be ecstatic that all members of organized churches are ineligible for public office if anyone in that church has said anything that is not politically correct. That is, unless they have been rejected and denounced and that person has left the church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 AM on 03/18/2008
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Good post. I am so fed up with the denounce, renounce, repudiate and reject game. This is a distraction and nothing more. We should be talking about the issues and not every crazy ass thing someone who knows or supports the candidates, has ever uttered. Clinton wasn't responsible for Ferraro's shilling (well maybe just a little), and Obama isn't responsible for the Reverend's sermons or views.

The guilt by association melodrama is aggravating and needs to stop.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 03/18/2008

Jason,

This seems exactly right--essentially a new case of guilt by association, without demonstration of shared ideology. Expressed below:

Re: Obama's Speech on Race

From today's "Head of State"
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/speech.html

"Tuesday, March 18, 2008
The Speech

The speech that Obama will give today on race will likely be the most crucial one of his political career. Up until the questions raised about Wright, Obama had instilled a powerful and resilient enthusiasm in the American electorate, standing fast against virtually every line of attack from the Clinton camp. It was only the vivid clips of Wright's impassioned statements from the pulpit, and a line of questions that have arisen in association with those remarks, that has given some of those who had been most supportive of Obama campaign some manner of pause and reconsideration.

The questions are of two types. The group of explicit questions are now well-known. Given Obama's 20 year membership at the church, does he endorse the views of Wright? If not, why did he remain a member, or raised objections to Wright's more inflammatory positions before this date?

The implicit and unspoken questions are themselves more inflammatory, and uncover more deep-seated discomforts and fissures that many Americans still experience regarding race. Those who have embraced a new message of change are vulnerable to triggers of fear and doubt--the most primitive triggers, as we have seen throughout history, move electorates most effectively, despite the intellectual justifications for these reactions that may ride along the top of such reactions.

Those who hear the Wright clips have a chain of unspoken associations that can be described as follows: Obama brought a message of change and hope to American politics that was embodied by his calm, measured and hones judgment, juxtaposed with the distortions of the previous Administration. Obama offered not only a new view of American politics, but a new paradigm of race--of post-racial politics--as a part of this message of change.

Wright now evokes the inchoate fears associated with the old political paradigm--of incendiary conflict rather than unity. In this case, in an odd and uncanny echo of the self-restricting responses that occurred in the run up to the Iraq war, many now hear in Wright's statements a warning that support of Obama may lead them to be viewed as unpatriotic, and instill a deep, unspoken fear that Obama may be like the "old" rather than the "new"--with all of the unstated uneasiness that Obama supporters have celebrated the divestment of as a part of his message of transformation and change.

These underlying emotional doubts, precisely because they are impulsive rather than fully considered, can have considerable power--unless they are themselves calmly, clearly, and fully addressed at both the explicit and implicit levels.

One, of course, may attend a house of worship of any denomination, often for a lifetime, in which one does not fully embrace all of the enthusiasms of the Pastor, Reverend, or other religious leader of the church. Such intense enthusiasms are often issued from the pulpit among many denominations--think of your own house of worship, for example--and are often viewed by the congregations as the specific preoccupations of the pastor, products of differing generations of life experience, experienced by one who has been fully immersed in the work, issues and expressions of that time.

Congregants do not typically attend simply because of a specific attachment to the particular preoccupations of the pastor--they seek the spiritual and communal fellowship of others, and recognize the difference between generations in the experience of spirituality, struggle, and life, much as many congregants do in making distinctions between the positions of church elders, often steeped in an earlier set of issues, and their own spiritual positions, values and needs. A house of worship is a community, and as in any community, members vary and understand that they vary by differing life experiences, and recognize that these generational variations do not reflect the core issues of theological belief shared by congregants.

You can probably see this in your own house of worship--or, indeed, in any community of belief.
The hard core adherents. The old fighters. The blind followers. Those who come for largely social reasons. We understand such variance in a community, and yet often continue to attend because it *is* a community that represents the variants of time and humanity, yet brings us together because of, and to discuss, a set shared beliefs and commitments.

To succeed in his speech today, Obama will need to make clear those principles of shared belief. He will have to help those who are new to understanding the generational struggles of those who fought for spirit in the face of intense racial hatred, how the product of such struggles differs from those who have emerged today, from different experiences--that, just as the spirituality of the Protestants who arrived in fervid protest on our shores to escape religious tyranny differs in rhetoric and form from that of today's Protestants, all forms of belief are reflective of such struggles and change.

He will need to do so in the manner that has brought so many in enthusiasm to his campaign--and that both signifies and heralds such change--with the unifying clarity and honesty that will allow him to describe this spiritual world, etched and co-existing, like all such worlds, like the rings of a tree, with a history of struggle, growth and change--and his place within it.

With such a presentation, that his own views should differ from those of Wright should not be surprising to any member of a thinking community.

Cite:
Head of State
http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/03/speech.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 03/18/2008
- missette I'm a Fan of missette 22 fans permalink

Thank you for a post that gets to the heart of the matter - that once again the electorate is being treated by the media - not just the rabid right media but the MSM as well, as if we are incapable of analytical thought and meekly comply with whatever directive the press sends our way. I cannot be the only observer who has noticed that the media seems increasingly frustrated that their endless Wright soundbites and predictions of doom for Obama's campaign are not resonating with the voters. A CNN poll taken over the weekend when this stuff was at fever pitch showed Obama only rising in popularity. The media WAS able to convince some voters to choose Bush over Gore because he's be more fun to have a beer with, and besides, Gore, horror, "sighs." I think many have now learned the error of their ways, as real life got in the way of all that fun, not to mention that we've admired people over the years who were sometimes over the top too.

An aside: I know the media has a hard time dealing with reality while implying the Obama might be a closet sound-bite Wright, which they know is a false portrayal, but why is Bush himself not being questioned hard over the state of the economy and the fate of people's retirement and college savings accounts and the latest carnage in Iraq and on and on? One look at your 401K and you know that's all real. And while I'm on a roll, Ann Coulter gave the keynote address a year or so ago to a convention of Republicans for purposes of a straw poll over their nominee. This was shortly after she publicly smeared the 9/11 "Jersey Girl" widows, calling them harpies who had enjoyed their husbands' deaths. I've never heart McCain or any other Republican who was there asked whether they agreed with her statements and, if not, why they stayed and applauded her remarks. And she remains a Republican spokesman to this day. Why does the media tacitly give the Republicans a pass? What do the Republicans have over the media?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 03/18/2008
- VOTER I'm a Fan of VOTER 195 fans permalink
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Great Post!

Question: How many Catholics left the Church after learning about the sexual crimes

committed by so many religious? And did the fact, cardinals, bishops and the Vatican

hid the truth and protected these creeps matter to the faithful?

Did they stay in the Church because of their beliefs in the religious dogma while

rejecting and condemning those in charge and those criminals? Was this enough?

Just asking?

And what about the far-right religious bigoted Leaders given nods of approval

from the Press and politicians............................

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:13 AM on 03/18/2008
- sheine I'm a Fan of sheine 9 fans permalink

Obama may get the nomination but wont be elected. His excuses may work with the Democratic faithful but not the general public.

Here is a radical notion for all you Huffies. Forget Obama and Hillary and nominate the best person to deal with our financial disaster, Eliot Spitzer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 AM on 03/18/2008
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Was that supposed to be a bad joke, because it's not funny.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 03/18/2008

Spitzer would be a good choice. He was leading the fight against predatory lending. You know - the shit that DESTROYED OUR ECONOMY. Thats why the Republicans brought him down.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 03/18/2008
- johnOneOne I'm a Fan of johnOneOne 3 fans permalink

Do you think Shakespeare might have asserted, "To damn is to repudiate, to repudiate to damn..."?

Do you think if Wright had said "God repudiate America," he might have been considered a rightwinger in good standing instead of a black separatist?

Aren't in fact all those folks going around insisting that other folks be damned, yes, damned, for something or other, doing the same thing Wright did?

America isn't God. For someone to say, "I damn America" is one thing; to say "I damn God" another. But "God damn America" - just a theological query, taken hypothetically, since it isn't even speaking for one's self, but for God. And whether it even seems reasonable or not - depends on the evidence, I suppose.

So, I wonder, what does God really think? Does he want to repudiate America? Hmmm....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:45 AM on 03/18/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 71 fans permalink
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One of two things will happen today. It will be proven that Obama has been effectively turned into the "black candidate" or he will emerge as the personification of what this country has to be to survive coming challenges in the world community. In my opinion, America loses with option 1and wins with option 2. Can a black candidate win the highest office in the land. I think not. Can one who transcends race do so? Only if America wills it to be. That being said, today, we have a choice and we will be exposed (not Obama), one way or another.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 AM on 03/18/2008
- LarBear I'm a Fan of LarBear 30 fans permalink
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qdog112 ....
Soooooo... After some of the story on Rezko comes out, we get an Obama denial... After the story comes out, then Obama strongly disagrees with his chosen Minister... Yet the Minister's words fit well with Michelle's "wake up "Black" voters, and Michelle Obama is NOT Proud of America until "Blacks" woke up to help elect the First "Black" President... The Obama's also accepted the Oprah endorsement/promotion of Obama as the First Black President... Couple that with the Obama Campaign playing the Race /Color Card several times, when neither Race, nor Color was mentioned, and the story becomes different...
I said, more than once, that People/Voters originally did NOT give a Damn about Obama's skin color... I also said the Obama's choice to bring Race, and Color into the Campaign, would come around to bite him, (grinning) wherever they bite... (POGO, "WE have met the Enemy and it is US!)
Probably seemed like a good idea at the time to attempt to manipulate Voters, using skin color, for and against... Whatever it took to win, so to speak... The MSM has played their part well also... Olbermann's recent tirade against the Clinton's was his gift to the Obama's Campaign... Any hint that can be spun about Race, or Color, will get a free pass for the Obama's and a MSM Verbal Nuking of their opponents!
Sooooooo, qdog112, welcome to thereal world... He, Obama chose to run as a "Black" Candidate... NOT the Clinton's, NOT the MSM, NOT the Public.... The Obama's chose this path...
Personally, I will NOT Vote for a "Black" President... I hope a lot of People with black skin, or white, brown, red, yellow, or blends thereof, will NOT either... Or, allow someone to play to Race, or skin color to manipulate them... I don't care what color a President's skin is, or their sexual orientation, or whether male, or female... As in MLK, Jr's, Dream, is, to paraphrase... It's about People's Hearts and Character, not their skin color... WE don't need a Segregated from us "Black America", "Black Community", etc...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 AM on 03/18/2008
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How did Obama intentionally bring race into the campaign? I must have missed it.

Despite your embrace of MLK's remarks about character, the rest of your post tells us that you never would have voted for Obama anyway for a reasons I don't need to spotlight because you already have.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/18/2008

You have a Capitalization addiction. I suggest you attend a Twelve-step program immediately...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/18/2008
- doublesvb I'm a Fan of doublesvb 4 fans permalink
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I agree. Unfortunately I believe we will be exposed.
As an Obama supporter from the first time I saw/heard him and actually got goosebumps I am hoping he can survive this huge obstacle. But in my gut I just don't see it happening. People have dug their claws into this one and don't want to let go. If Hillary takes the nomination I do not believe the young or the AA will vote for her and we're back with the Republicans. Say it ain't so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 AM on 03/18/2008
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Beautifully said. Thank you qdog!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 03/18/2008
- Kim445588 I'm a Fan of Kim445588 4 fans permalink

Nice article.

One good upside to this story, is that it has cleared up the question of whether or not Obama is a secret Muslim, for all of the ignorant non-educated racists among us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:31 AM on 03/18/2008
- BigSid I'm a Fan of BigSid 9 fans permalink

Is another speech about "race: going to pay your bills?

Are the issues of "race" stopping you from living life to the fullest?

Isn't America for all intents and purposes beyond the "race" issue?

Do we want the United States stuck in a perpetual discoussion about "race" or do we wanna just move on? BTW...didn't MoveOn.org endorse Obama...wonder why he having so much trouble doing that.

Does anyone think Obama's speech about "race" is a ploy to do nothing other than give Obama a stage to try to prove his premise that he can bring people together?

Who's playing the "race" card now with the participation of every media outlet as he gives his speech about "race"?

Is it possible that Obama is just another candidate in the race -- one that is winning nonetheless -- and that no matter what his "race" is, he's simply not going to get every vote in the country?

Just some of my thoughts on "race" in this race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:24 AM on 03/18/2008
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