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Joe Klein \'Stingray\' Comment Shocks, Embarrasses CNN Colleagues

Joe Klein 'Stingray' Comment Shocks, Embarrasses CNN Colleagues

March 20, 2008 10:39 PM


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Joe Klein is a Time Magazine contributor and political pundit who anonymously penned the novel Primary Colors and who, if you are unlucky enough to come within shouting distance of, will no doubt remind you of how he's covered more presidential campaigns than you. Also, lots of people think he's kind of an idiot for various reasons - for example: he has never demonstrated a functional understanding about FISA and yet he keeps on running his mouth about it.

But hey, don't take my word for it! Flash forward to today, when, in search for just the perfect metaphor to describe Obama's recent troubles, Klein's fecund imagination alights upon today's news. Specifically, the Michigan woman who died when an eagle ray leapt into her boat.

The classy remark was met with some very pained reactions. Nice work, Anonymous!

[WATCH.]

KLEIN: ...back in 1988, Dukakis staffers distributed a Biden tape, the tape where Biden was plagiarizing a British politician and they got fired. This is pretty much campaign business as usual. It's really stupid because as long as Rush Limbaugh lives and breathes on this planet, McCain doesn't have to do any dirty work. People like Limbaugh will do it for him. But I think maybe the operative metaphor here isn't drowning but the giant sting ray landing in Obama's boat.


CROSSTALK: Ooh. Oh, Joe.

KLEIN: Okay. Well...

CROSSTALK: Don't blame that one on me. Don't blame that one on me. I'm not going to go there, because someone did die from that.


 
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- nikto I'm a Fan of nikto 20 fans permalink
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If JOE KLEIN got payed minimum wage, it would be too much.

Uh, how much DOES he get paid?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 03/21/2008
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Good grief, when did American's become so freaking sensitive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 03/21/2008
- Jonny38103 I'm a Fan of Jonny38103 11 fans permalink

Much ado about nothing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 AM on 03/21/2008

His mouth was obviously running way ahead of his brain! Shame on him!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 03/21/2008

OK, so Joe Klein mis-speaks sometimes. Like this instance. And when he denied on the record that he wrote Primary Colors. Facts really don't matter when it comes to politics. It's what people BELIEVE that's important. And Anonym--uh--Klein's heart is in the right place. Why else would he have written that fawning novel about the Clintons?
-Trevor Wynne www.atimelikethis.us

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 03/21/2008
- joselopez I'm a Fan of joselopez 12 fans permalink
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Embarrassed/Shcoked, is this the same station where two females talked about a reverse oreo with their black anchor?!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:59 AM on 03/21/2008

"...fawning novel...??"

Can we all assume you never read it?

I'm not fan of Klein's, but anybody who actually read the book knows it was far from fawning.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:02 AM on 03/21/2008
- silverball I'm a Fan of silverball 6 fans permalink

....i agree....very far from fawning.....

he's approaching the ann coulter school of recognition for speaking to incite...or a weatherperson...which explains how you can be paid so much....for being so wrong....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 03/21/2008
- jbd I'm a Fan of jbd permalink

Is any outlet brave enough to show any sermons from Rev Wright that refer to anything other than the comments we continuosly see. This would show why people why he has been allowed to speak for 20 years without being crucified. Many people parrot the line that he's been doing this for 20 years. Well, 9-11 was 7 years ago. How have Pat Buchannon and Tucker and Klein and Hannity, been able to convince anyone to pay them to add their small minded comments to the debate on any topic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 AM on 03/21/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 55 fans permalink
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for those who don' t understand why some find it offensive. that poor woman's death was tragic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 AM on 03/21/2008
- NoComment9 I'm a Fan of NoComment9 5 fans permalink

I guess Jason LInkin's job is to watch TV and try really hard to make controversy by reaching as far as he can for it. At least that's what it seems after his last review of Nita Lowey on Meet the Press.

It looked pretty obvious from Klein's expression that he was going to try a jokey-metaphor and didn't know if it would fly. It didn't. Big deal. I'm sure the late night comedians will be referencing this sting ray thing at some point. It's not as if TV or the blogoshere is guided by taste at all.

Get a real job, Jason!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:51 AM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

I most definitly agree with you !!!
Maybe Jason does'nt know a Metaphor ??? I'm sure Liein was refering nto Obamas sinking ship ,but those Obamans could Never admit that, when they can twist it !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:36 PM on 03/21/2008

I guess I just don't understand his comment. The odds of a stingray landing in your boat and killing you are a billion to one. The odds of a republican operative being sneaky underhanded and dishonest? One to one. The annalogy is false.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:48 AM on 03/21/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 43 fans permalink

cminmd That was a winner!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:19 PM on 03/21/2008
- FZliveson I'm a Fan of FZliveson 101 fans permalink
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How did this nation fall so far? We've totally lost our hard-edge, the edge that brought my Sprague forebearers in the Lyon's Whelp to Massachusetts in 1629! Our people have gotten so panty-twisted about the stupidest comments and "we" have sold out, let slip away or had stolen so many of the basic freedoms our ancestors died to get for us. The goddam stingray killed a woman, unpredicted, unexpected, violently and quickly...the man's comment was right on. If the family of the poor departed woman can't handle that...too damn bad. How can we allow ourselves to be boxed into Political Correctness? We are descendants of the Americans who kicked British ass and stood over the bodies saying...Not on my watch, mate! Let's revive our resolve to protect the system which has been the miracle of the epoch...American republic democratic principles.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 03/21/2008

that's just ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 03/21/2008
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Yeah, those same Americans who spread blankets laced with small-pox and wiped out the inhabitants of these lands... those are the one's you're referring to?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:57 AM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

I know that must be another Obaman, No common sense !!
You and Rev. Wright should not spread such Rumors

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 03/21/2008
- FZliveson I'm a Fan of FZliveson 101 fans permalink
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They also gave the Indians satin panties with sequins and republican slogans on them.
Ignorant Twit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:35 PM on 03/22/2008
- cmbaldwin I'm a Fan of cmbaldwin 13 fans permalink

This is why we need a Huffington News Network!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 03/21/2008
- riverhorse I'm a Fan of riverhorse 4 fans permalink

and of course they think he's an idiot because he's brought up the racist bigot Rev. Wright-Omama scandal and he's a typical white person....ect., ect...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 03/21/2008

Yeah, there's no such thing as one of your white politicians who has a "racist" white preacher or pastor. Unheard of! And I doubt any white preachers have ever blamed America for 9-11. Not any. Not even Jerry Falwell and Pat Robertson, who severed as spiritual advisers to GW Bush. {sarcasm}

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 PM on 03/23/2008

Another example of news as entertainment. It's ridiculous that if you watch what passes for news on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, and some of the broadcast news. You learn absolutely nothing, except which side of the issue there pundits and experts are on. What happened to facts as news instead of opinions? There a a few of the guest on these news shows that actually try to be unbiased. You could put up paper cutouts where they sit and 95% of the time we could fill in the opinion of this guest or that one on any given issue or event. This isn't news reporting it's throwing a piece of meat into the lion pit to see witch side can be the loudest or more persistent in pushing their views.

Thank God for the internet , PBS, NPR, Air America, etc... because we would have no idea what is happening in the real world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 03/21/2008
- Yurdelite I'm a Fan of Yurdelite 26 fans permalink

Nevermind the so called journalists who pushback on nothing and question nothing. Guests lie and distort and they are rarely challenged. Even Mr. Hardball himself allows these kinds of things to happen. These stations are a joke and they make things worse than they actually are. Who needs them...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:05 AM on 03/21/2008

Who cares. The world is full of stupid people saying stupid things. Why do I have to be outraged everytime?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 AM on 03/21/2008
- sb13 I'm a Fan of sb13 permalink

Because ALL we seem to have any more is stupid people making lots and lots of dough saying stupid stupid things?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/21/2008
- Zhonni I'm a Fan of Zhonni 15 fans permalink
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DavidE, YOU ARE MY HERO FOR A DAY!!! Way to sum up my feelings!

It was indeed an insensive comment but we are in the age of parse every word for all it's worth and it is really sickining and becoming tiresome.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 03/21/2008
- Henk I'm a Fan of Henk 28 fans permalink
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We care because these particular idiots have a very large microphone and are spouting their bullshit on national TeeVee. Do you understand that or are you trying to prove your own point?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 03/21/2008
- Ramus I'm a Fan of Ramus 31 fans permalink

This is just another obnoxious remark by a company hack. ... just an unthinking remark trying to catch a little publicity with a catchy line. What the news today is that Gallup is talking about Clinton leading in the polls. I'd like to know who they polled. It sounds fishy to me. Last time I looked Obama led in delegates and the popular vote. So how do we find out who Gallup is polling?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 03/21/2008
- bikerdude I'm a Fan of bikerdude 77 fans permalink
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Kinda like a Chris Matthews moment...When he makes some totally obnoxious comment and then sniggers about it.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 03/21/2008
- VSamuels I'm a Fan of VSamuels 66 fans permalink

Don't you mean 'snickers'?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 03/21/2008
- MsLiz I'm a Fan of MsLiz 116 fans permalink
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http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/snigger

It is a variant of snicker, but also: "to laugh quietly in an unpleasant manner e.g. at someone else's misfortune."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 03/21/2008

The polls reflect those that answer their land line phones at home. Aside from the elderly, who is home to answer these calls?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 03/21/2008

Time has lost touch with the Times, and Newsweek appears to have it's Printers jammed back in the 80's. Anyone who has turned away from these 'TruthSpeaks' or using them on their Shows are showing how far behind they are and useless as sources of Mass Communications
WE must require Disclaimers on th emajority of 'news' outlets..just like Parental Warnings, they should be required to reveal they are only OpEds or af entertainment value. Not News. Opinions and Sensationalism. Did We pass laws requiring Truth in Advertising long ago?
I watch MSNBC but was appaulded by their Censorship of the So called 'Democratic'Debates- they were no such thing.. They were NBC approved cadidate debates- They should have lost their licensing and been fined for Faiure to meet Advertised Promises! anyone who is eligible to Run for PUBLIC office should be heard by the People of this Democracy. Any else is Big Brother and inherently UnAmerican!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 AM on 03/21/2008
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