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Joe Klein \'Stingray\' Comment Shocks, Embarrasses CNN Colleagues

Joe Klein 'Stingray' Comment Shocks, Embarrasses CNN Colleagues

March 20, 2008 10:39 PM


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Joe Klein is a Time Magazine contributor and political pundit who anonymously penned the novel Primary Colors and who, if you are unlucky enough to come within shouting distance of, will no doubt remind you of how he's covered more presidential campaigns than you. Also, lots of people think he's kind of an idiot for various reasons - for example: he has never demonstrated a functional understanding about FISA and yet he keeps on running his mouth about it.

But hey, don't take my word for it! Flash forward to today, when, in search for just the perfect metaphor to describe Obama's recent troubles, Klein's fecund imagination alights upon today's news. Specifically, the Michigan woman who died when an eagle ray leapt into her boat.

The classy remark was met with some very pained reactions. Nice work, Anonymous!

[WATCH.]

KLEIN: ...back in 1988, Dukakis staffers distributed a Biden tape, the tape where Biden was plagiarizing a British politician and they got fired. This is pretty much campaign business as usual. It's really stupid because as long as Rush Limbaugh lives and breathes on this planet, McCain doesn't have to do any dirty work. People like Limbaugh will do it for him. But I think maybe the operative metaphor here isn't drowning but the giant sting ray landing in Obama's boat.


CROSSTALK: Ooh. Oh, Joe.

KLEIN: Okay. Well...

CROSSTALK: Don't blame that one on me. Don't blame that one on me. I'm not going to go there, because someone did die from that.


 
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Klein: Primary A-Hole.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 03/21/2008
- Metacortex I'm a Fan of Metacortex 3 fans permalink

I'm not sure exactly how this passes for news, but it does bring to my mind the inherent callousness that news brings to daily life. A tragic freak event involving a stingray killing a woman when it landed on her boat made national news. The fact that millions of people now know about this constitutes that woman's 15 minutes of fame, and Klein's statement reflected that. As tasteless as it was, people do this all the time. The business of news is to report the freakish and unusual and push idioms and slang into and out of public consciousness. Is it any wonder we live in the A.D.D. society?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 03/21/2008
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Klein is an obnoxious disappointment. He needs to retool himself and decide if he would like to join the human race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 03/21/2008

And the obnoxious part of the comment came where? You know something, Klein is right about Limbaugh ( and his ilk) doing McCain's dirty work for him. His comment was spot on. You limp wristed liberals need to grow a backbone. If you think this comment is inappropriate you are doomed to having the Republicans in the Oval Office forever. Because they are going to throw the entire Kitchen sink at the Democratic candidate come general election time. If tame statements like these offend you you might as well as pack it in now becuase you are unprepared to get down and dirty. and a Republican hate/Spin/Lying freight train is coming down the tracks one hundred miles per hour, and it's gong to run over you naive Flower Children. The Democrats would be well served to pay any amount of money to hire the exact right wing production companies spin doctors that swift boated Kerry and others and pay them any amount of money to make commercials for their nominee. Like it or not, negative/lying attack ads work and the Democratic nominee needs to use them full force to turn the tables on the Republican machine or they are doomed. Positive is great, but negative will win the election. James

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 AM on 03/21/2008
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"If tame statements like these offend you you might as well as pack it in now..."


Stupidity is very often offensive. Having said that, this comment is stupid AND unworthy of attention!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/21/2008
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I couldn't agree more. It should be easy for the Dems to run a good attack campaign because the ads just write themselves. Go back to when Bush effectively destroyed McCains campaign the first time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/21/2008
- bikerdude I'm a Fan of bikerdude 68 fans permalink
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Why retool, just go away. He brings nothing relevant to the table.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 03/21/2008
- Ashall I'm a Fan of Ashall 5 fans permalink

One of the main reasons these political talk shows are going down the tubes is that their so-called "experts" who come out and discuss political issues are no more "experts" than the average person on the street. What's the old adage about opinions - everyone has one, but that doesn't necessarily mean they're worth anything. Patrick Buchanan, onetime republican and full-time repulsive, is a common "expert" on MSNBC. His rhetoric has become so outlandish that we turn our TV off when his face appears. He represents the kind of old politics that the country could get from John McCain...a­rrogant, crotchety, dull and repetitive. Joe Klein wrote a book but that success doesn't give him "expert" status either. I see voters using the Internet 100% in four years and political talk shows cancelled for good.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 AM on 03/21/2008
- Bulbul I'm a Fan of Bulbul 45 fans permalink
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If the pot is Klein and the kettle is Rove , I would pick one intellegent unethical Roves`s talk than the fool , unethical Klien`s stupid presense , spitting from his mouth, as he utters idiotic remarks.

Dump him, CNN. Rove can stay, I do not watch FOX.

By the way, MSNBS..dum­p Mathews, Olberman. Hire Rachael from Huffy !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 03/21/2008
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I can tolerate Matthews, although, he loves too hear the sound of his own voice and interrupts speakers mid-sentence, and enjoy Olberman, but would like to see less of Morning Blow and more of Rachel Maddow. I thought Tucker was finally gone, and was replaced by David Gregory, but I keep seeing Tucker on various MSNBC shows. Damn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 03/21/2008
- dclobbyist I'm a Fan of dclobbyist 9 fans permalink

The hiring of Rachel Maddow shows just how liberal MSNBC is. It is the liberal equivalent of Fox News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 AM on 03/21/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

I am sure MSNBC still owes Tucker money on his contract so they give him little "guest" spots here and there until his contract is up. I think they would be wise to cut their losses and let him go permanently. All he does is stick his foot in his mouth.

I happen to think Rachel Maddow would be perfectly suited for her own show and boot that Joe Scarborough off the air.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:23 PM on 03/21/2008
- dax49 I'm a Fan of dax49 18 fans permalink

no class, like the book

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 AM on 03/21/2008
- InDaZone I'm a Fan of InDaZone 2 fans permalink

I don't get it.... could someone explain this to me?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 03/21/2008
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Who cares?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:42 AM on 03/21/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Klein you sick, sick little man.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:38 AM on 03/21/2008

Jason:

When you said "But hey, don't take my word for it! " I decided not to. First stop was your bio:

Jason Linkins is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, covering media and politics. He's based in Washington, DC. Previously, he wrote for HuffPo's Eat The Press, and has also contributed to DCist and Wonkette.

No offense, but BFD Jason. Technically, I'M writing for Huffington Post, right now!!!!

That's not to say I'm defending Joe Klein. He doesn't need me as defense against YOU!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 03/21/2008
- Bulbul I'm a Fan of Bulbul 45 fans permalink
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Actually good that Jason posted your`s. If my post does not suit the huffy, it never appears !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:20 AM on 03/21/2008
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Can we please have a moratorium on stories where members of the press are "shocked?" Or "outraged?" Or "embarrassed?" Or really, any stories at all about how members of the press feel about the stories they're covering or their own remarks. And for that matter, let's not hear any more about how members of the press are "shocked" or "outraged" in general...­the spectacle of commentators like Pat Buchanan (and others of his ilk who always seem to get rehabilitated from anachronisms to elder statesmen by the media) waxing angry and eloquent of Obama's pastor, for example. Isn't the press supposed to retain it's equanimity and report the news and look for the truth, not just report on each other's emotional reactions to each other's reporting of complex personal and emotional issues that are for the most part NOT news, or truth? How is Joe Klein important enough i the scheme of things or to Americans in general that his outrageousness or lack thereof is even worth noting. And how will amplifying his insignificant comments mitigate any offense that the only people with any standing to be offended, the family of the woman in question, might be feeling...­rather, it only serves to inform them of something they might not otherwise have even known, and thrust them onto the public stage to discuss something -- grief, tragedy, personal loss -- that is private, and certainly doesn't need to be delved into in the context of....Joe Klein? He may be important to his colleagues but I doubt this family could care less at this moment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:37 AM on 03/21/2008
- truthyguy I'm a Fan of truthyguy 42 fans permalink

People should just start referring to him as "Stingray Joe" so that each time he appears somewhere everyone is reminded of just how insensitive and ill informed Klein is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:19 AM on 03/21/2008
- truthyguy I'm a Fan of truthyguy 42 fans permalink

And you probably thought that Fox was tasteless.

What is it about this guy that results in two things that are incompatible converging: He exhibits time and time again (get it?) how uninformed and insensitive he is, and yet the media pays him to appear and write in a supposed fact based format.

I don't know anything about a number of different subjects. Would someone please tell me how I can get the media to pay me big bucks to demonstrate my ignorance. They can even pay me less than they pay Klein, or Reilly, or Limbaugh, or....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 03/21/2008
- ruthinking I'm a Fan of ruthinking 9 fans permalink

I quit watching network news years ago and just this week gave up on cable. Except for Rachel Maddox, commenters (they are not really reporters any more) don'seem invested in the truth but in spinning it,and not even spinning it to support their point view, but to play the public, just to keep a trend going , or if they are bored, start a new trend (who is ahead, who is behind).
Better to read newspapers, and the web. Destill and think for ourselves. Feel much better!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:14 AM on 03/21/2008
- Grulg I'm a Fan of Grulg 6 fans permalink

Joe Klein, at least as stupid today as he was yesterday. Yessir.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 AM on 03/21/2008
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