Obama, Clinton And McCain's Passports Breached: Two State Dept Officials Fired, Investigation Underway

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Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice tells reporters that she has apologized to Democratic presidential candidate Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., for an incident in which State Department contractors unnecessarily reviewed his passport file, Friday, March 21, 2008, at the State Department in Washington, during a meeting with Brazil's Defense Minister Nelson Jobim. Rice said she would be "disturbed" if her passport file was viewed in such an unauthorized manner. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — At least four State Department workers pried into the supposedly secure passport files of presidential contenders Hillary Rodham Clinton, Barack Obama and John McCain, abashed officials admitted Friday in a revelation that had Condoleezza Rice promising a full investigation and telephoning the candidates to apologize personally.

The snooping incidents raised questions as to whether there was political motivation and why two contractors involved were fired before investigators had a chance to interview them. The State Department's inspector general was probing, with the Justice Department monitoring the effort, but Obama said that was not enough. He urged congressional involvement "so it's not simply an internal matter."

The unauthorized digging into electronic government files on politicians recalled a 1992 case in which a Republican political appointee at the State Department was demoted for searching Bill Clinton's passport records when Clinton was running against President George H.W. Bush.

McCain, the Republican nominee-in-waiting, said there should be an investigation of the new snooping as well as an apology.

Democrat Obama said that better include Congress, not just Bush administration investigators.

"When you have not just one but a series of attempts to tap into people's personal records, that's a problem not just for me but for how our government functions," Obama told reporters in Portland, Ore., where he was campaigning. "I expect a full and thorough investigation. It should be done in conjunction with those congressional committees that have oversight function so it's not simply an internal matter."

Rice was apologetic in public as well as in her private phone calls to the candidates.

"None of us wants to have a circumstance in which any American's passport file is looked at in an unauthorized way," the secretary of state said after speaking with Obama.

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"I told him that I was sorry, and I told him that I, myself, would be very disturbed if I learned that somebody had looked into my passport file," she added. "And therefore, I will stay on top of it and get to the bottom of it."

In all, at least four workers were involved in the snooping.

The State Department confirmed Thursday night that Obama's files had been compromised on three occasions _ Jan. 9, Feb. 21 and as recently as last week, on March 14. By the time senior officials were made aware, two contract employees had been fired and a third disciplined, agency officials said.

The firings could make it more difficult for the State Department to force them to answer questions. Unless they agree to comply, they would have to be served with a grand jury subpoena compelling them to testify before a grand jury.

The companies that provided the contractors were The Analysis Corp. and Stanley Inc. Stanley, based in Arlington, Va., this week won a five-year, $570-million government contract extension to support passport services.

According to agency officials, a Stanley employee improperly accessed Obama's records on Jan. 9 and was fired within days. The second contractor, employed by The Analysis Corp., pried into similar records on Feb. 21 but was not terminated. The third incident involved another Stanley employee, who was swiftly fired.

In a statement, Stanley said it regretted the "rare occurrence" of unauthorized access of any individual's private information. When it fired the two subcontractors involved in accessing the Obama files, terminating them the day the incident was discovered, Stanley was not aware of others performing unauthorized searches of McCain or Clinton's files, the company said.

The Analysis Corp., or TAC, issued a statement late Friday saying it had been notified earlier in the day that one of its contractors had acted improperly.

The company said it had decided to honor the department's request to delay firing its consultant in order to give investigators time to conduct its investigation.

"This individual's actions were taken without the knowledge or direction of anyone at TAC and are wholly inconsistent with our professional and ethical standards," wrote the company, based in McLean, Va.

State Department spokesman Sean McCormack said Friday that a separate search conducted after the Obama revelation showed that workers also had snooped on McCain and Clinton.

The worker who had been reprimanded in the Obama incident had also reviewed McCain's records earlier this year, McCormack said. While the employee has not been fired, that person no longer has access to passport files, he said.

"I can assure you that person's going to be at the top of the list of the inspector general when they talk to people, and we are currently reviewing our (disciplinary) options with respect to that person," McCormack said.

In Clinton's case, someone accessed her file last summer as part of a training session involving another State Department worker. McCormack said the violation was immediately recognized and the person was admonished. That person was not involved in the later incidents, meaning four people were involved in all.

The department's internal computer system "flags" certain records, including those of high-profile people, to tip off supervisors when someone tries to view the records without an appropriate reason.

McCormack said an early review of the incidents points to workers' "imprudent curiosity" more than something more sinister.

But "we are not dismissive of any other possibility, and that's the reason why we have an investigation under way," he said.

Former independent counsel Joseph diGenova, who investigated the 1992 scandal, said the firings of the two contract employees will make the investigation more difficult because the inspector general can't compel them to talk.

"My guess is if he tries to talk to them now, in all likelihood they will take the Fifth," diGenova said, referring to the Fifth Amendment's protection against self-incrimination.

Likewise, Patrick Kennedy, the top management official at the State Department, briefed the candidates' staffs on Capitol Hill, then said to reporters, "The State Department has very, very rigorous rules about controls and access for privacy material. We review them regularly, and we have a large organization with a lot of people in it. Mistakes and errors happen from time to time. ... We caught these and we've got to work and correct that process."

Attorney General Michael Mukasey said the case has not yet been referred to the Justice Department for investigation, and indicated prosecutors were likely to wait until the State Department's inspector general concludes that inquiry. But Mukasey did not rule out the possibility of the Justice Department taking an independent look.

McCain, who was in Paris on Friday, said any breach of passport privacy deserves action.

"The United States of America values everyone's privacy, and corrective action should be taken," he said.

It was not clear whether the employees saw anything other than the basic personal data such as name, citizenship, age, Social Security number and place of birth, which is required when someone fills out a passport application.

The file also includes date and place of birth and address at time of application. Agency officials said the files generally would not list countries the person has traveled to.

"It is worth noting that that earlier situation (in 1992) also was characterized as isolated and nonpolitical when the news initially emerged," said Howard Berman, D-Calif., chairman of the House Foreign Affairs Committee.

"This time, as then, Congress will pay close attention to the depth of executive branch involvement in the rifling of presidential candidates' passport files," he added.

The Washington Times first reported the incident involving Obama.

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Associated Press reporter Dan Caterinicchia contributed to this report.

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- Lucille I'm a Fan of Lucille 35 fans permalink
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I'm sure someone has already pointed this out, but c'mon! Whomever broke into Obama's State Department file knew the best way to deflect that they were looking specifically at Obama's file was to now claim that all the presidential candidate's files were violated. I don't believe it for a moment, and because they acted so quickly, it could only come from the top of the government. Either President Bush's surrogates or former President Clinton's. And I don't doubt for minute that President Clinton could still get anything he really wanted out of any government agency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 03/21/2008
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McCain's was "accessed" only after Obama's 3rd one as if for a cover up. Hillarys was never breached. Her name was merely punched in as a training exercise.

All a cover up for what was going on regarding Obama's file.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 03/21/2008
- riverhorse I'm a Fan of riverhorse 4 fans permalink

well what does Obama have to hide besides his preacher?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 03/21/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

Go Lucille Go. When you crash and burn from the stratosphere it's gonna be fun to watch!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:59 PM on 03/21/2008
- cinemaven I'm a Fan of cinemaven 22 fans permalink
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The information they accessed is available to ANYONE willing to pay $60 to see it...

In case you missed it, Trickywoo posted this information:

Per the U.S. government's own Passport Services web site, below is what's in your passport records. Your travel plans, other than the original destination that you put on your application, are not in your passport file. The site also states the rules for third-parties to obtain someone's record, lest you think you can simply send in $60 and get anyone's record. Looky:

"Passport Services maintains United States passport records for passports issued from 1925 to the present. These records normally consist of applications for United States passports and supporting evidence of United States citizenship, and are protected by the Privacy Act of 1974, (5 USC 552(a)). Passport records do not include evidence of travel such as entrance/exit stamps, visas, residence permits, etc., since this information is entered into the passport book after it is issued.

"The Privacy Act allows you to obtain copies of records in your own name and the records of your minor children. To request these records, please submit a typed or clearly printed NOTARIZED request that provides

" 1. Your full name at birth and any subsequent name changes and/or the full name of your minor child or children, if you are requesting their records;
2. Your date and place of birth and/or those of your minor child or children;
3. Your current mailing address;
4. Your current daytime telephone number;
5. Your current e-mail address, if available;
6. Your reason for the request
7. The dates or estimated dates your passports were issued;
8. Your passport numbers or any other information that will help us locate your records; and
9. A copy of requestor's valid photo identification

"A search for your passport record is free with your notarized request. However, there is a $60.00 search fee for each individual, other than yourself and your minor children, for whom a record search is requested. A check or money order made payable to "Department of State" must be included with your request. "
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They didn't break into his state department file, they broke into his PASSPORT FILE... c'mon Lucille, get a bit of perspective.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 03/21/2008

Wow. You're even using different words here -- do you realize? Passport record is one thing. Passport FILE is another. That file has social security numbers, home addresses, travel records, etc. Think about this: these are presidential candidates who are under Secret Service protection. This is okay with you?

We're not talking about a private detective mailing in $60 to get a public record. We're talking about a contract employee inside the state department improperly accessing the file. We haven't even been told what "improperly" means, and how deep into the file they went. Do they know where Barack Obama's relative in Kenya live? These are serious allegations, and you're already writing the apologies before we've heard all of the facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:22 PM on 03/21/2008
- HDR I'm a Fan of HDR 8 fans permalink

Lucille, Lucille, I'm with you. And, if this was a 3-way breach then what the hell is Homeland Security all about? Maybe Condi can blame this on the stalliing of the FISA re-signing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

...or the most obvious to Lucille, it must have been Clinton !! I'm pretty sure she's a little *Teched * Eh ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 03/21/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 71 fans permalink
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I agree it came from the top. Hard to believe Clinton did it or that her or McCain's file was compromised. She has bragged about her travels. Bush Co.on the other hand, will do anything to keep the WH. Who directed it may be in doubt, but it's clear why it was done. At the very least, they want to tie Barack or a relative to any controversial foreigner they can. Other than finances Hillary's life is an open book and only McCain's medical records can hurt him, so I look at any revelation of McCain and Clinton breach as diversionary and fabricated.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 03/21/2008
- partyofone I'm a Fan of partyofone 45 fans permalink

Clinton's campaign has also issued specific talking points about how few Nato nations Obama has visited, and was clearly doing deep opposition research about his childhood years in Indonesia. It seems very likely that this is a part of the Clinton-Bush collaborative effort to protect the political establishment by torpedoing Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 03/21/2008

the point is.....That Rove is out looking for ways to present material as "dirt" and then to make up lies and do the swiftboating against Obama and For Hillary and McCain. It is his way of doing politics, lies inuendo, filthy political hits, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

The filthy politics belongs to Hillary Clinton and her surrogate that worked in that department when these crimes were committed.

The criminal that breached Obama and McCain's file did not breach Hillary's.

Two days after Obama's was breached Hillary made a speech where she professed to know what country's Obama had traveled to. Making the claim that he had not traveled enough to certain country's and therefore shouldn't be president.

Obama better take this crime to its obvious conclusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 03/21/2008

I wonder if the liberal media, such as CNN and MSNBC, will show as much disdain that McCain's passport information was breeched as they did when they found out Obama's was breeched??? I highly doubt it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 03/21/2008
- cinemaven I'm a Fan of cinemaven 22 fans permalink
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Hillary questions Obama travel in DECEMBER OF '07, not after the breach.

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/article3080794.ece

See Jacee... just a teensy bit of research could make you a bit less paranoid. The truth is out there... but it's not very interesting.

It's amazing that when someone runs for office, any trips they make tends to make it into the news somewhere... Obama has travelled a lot and even I can find out where and when.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:12 PM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

Is it true that Obama is really paying you for this trash ??? How much ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:23 PM on 03/21/2008
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Gee, I guess I missed the story where Rove is working for Hillary. could you please provide a link? Thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

Thanks WIOS.

Rove is now in an internship program with the Clinton campaign, learning new tricks of the trade from the Mistress of the Dark Arts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/21/2008
- cinemaven I'm a Fan of cinemaven 22 fans permalink
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Links? *lol*
They're all scared of links... the minute you post a few facts, they run out of the thread and huddle in a new one. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:13 PM on 03/21/2008
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No, thank you, Jacee.
I've never been a Hillary supporter. And McCain has sickened me since 2001 when he embraced the people and policies that slimed him in the primaries. I voted for Obama in my state's primary.
But I've got to tell you, watching all the Obama supporters leap upon this and accuse the Clintons without ANYevidence is so hypocritical and blindly hate-filled it scares me. I believe Obama has his heart in the right place. I believe he wants to inspire unity. But what he seems to be inspiring in his supporters (at least many i see here) to be the very things he campaigns against.
I can't be the only person who voted for Obama who finds that really troubling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 03/21/2008
- cinemaven I'm a Fan of cinemaven 22 fans permalink
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You're not the only one... there have been a lot of very responsible posts by Obama supporters who are trying to stop this silliness :)
I'm a Hillary supporter but I agree with you that Obama has his heart in the right place and wants to inspire unity.... the people who are here bashing Hillary with such glee are no more representative of the true Obama supporters than the ones bashing Hillary are representative of her true supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:16 PM on 03/21/2008
- Unlearn I'm a Fan of Unlearn 2 fans permalink

I agree wholeheartedly with both you and Cinemaven. These forums seem to attract the most delusional of supporters of all the candidates. On one hand, I want to be excited that there is so much activity and interest relating to the elections, but on the other, I fear that this type of coverage is breeding a deep distrust of otherwise genuine candidates. I think that this may be just another legacy of the Bush administration, paranoia, fear, and cynicism among all participants in politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:39 PM on 03/21/2008
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Excellent posting, thank you............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:45 PM on 03/21/2008
- lobear00 I'm a Fan of lobear00 27 fans permalink

WomenInOrangeSweater, Its not Obama's place to overshadow his supporters nor does he have "GOD written upon his forehead, he cannot open his hand and his supporters fall under his whim. We as supporters can only follow our hearts and make the best possible choice when we choose a candidate. Take Care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/21/2008
- KQuark I'm a Fan of KQuark 267 fans permalink
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Many of us Obama supporters would have been happy with Clinton as the nominee before she opened the kitchen sink strategy. I was saying things just like you. The fact is that Clinton's divisions of the past are beating Obama's message of unity for the future. It's a hard fact to face but it is true. The only way unity can win is if it is backed with political power like holding the office of the president. Time and time again we see McCain behaving better towards Obama than the Clintons. I seriously think the general election of Obama versus McCain will be tamer then the primary has been, save for the Republican 527 groups.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 03/21/2008
- Binea I'm a Fan of Binea 6 fans permalink
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Hillary's file was breached on 07 ? How long did it take before The Higher ups knew when that occured? How many times did it occur ? How soon after the breach was she told ? What was going on politically at the time ? McCain too ?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

The criminal that breached Obama and McCain's file did not breach Hillary's.

Two days after Obama's was breached Hillary made a speech where she professed to know what country's Obama had traveled to. Making the claim that he had not traveled enough to certain country's and therefore shouldn't be president.

Obama better take this crime to its obvious conclusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/21/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 71 fans permalink
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Why the hell would someone want to look into McCain's file? Maybe his medical records, but not his passport. Misinformation to throw investigators off the track - plain and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 03/21/2008
- Oldtimer I'm a Fan of Oldtimer 21 fans permalink
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Kowing the Bush junta as I do I think you make a good observation.
The Bush years will be (should be) known as Fascist America, The Darl Age.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

qdog.....uuummmmmmm

Hillary is running against both Obama and McCain. Hillary's little surrogate worked in that department and just recently took leave. She needs to be arrested immediately.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 03/21/2008

The Obamaniacs are foaming at the mouth. Yesterday they blamed Clinton for the breach, and today they are claiming (facts be damned) that it never happened to Clinton. Next they will swear they have evidence that Hillary assisted Lee Harvey Oswald.

I am sure a Obama-Worshipper will respond that anything is possible with Hillary Clinton. Go figure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

Here are the facts so far:

The criminal that breached Obama and McCain's file did not breach Hillary's.

Two days after Obama's was breached Hillary made a speech where she professed to know what country's Obama had traveled to. Making the claim that he had not traveled enough to certain country's and therefore shouldn't be president.

Care to comment on these facts?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 03/21/2008

Hillary didn't assist Lee Harvey Oswald....as far as I know...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 03/21/2008

Really Obama?..............Your numbers are going down so you immediately start pointing fingers and start false rumors when your notified of a breach to your passport. It is a non-story my man. Something the government needs to deal with, but you obviously are trying to change the focus on the fact you lied about your knowledge of Rev. Wright. The only politics you are pushing is the old same with no Change. Of course, this is just the humble opinion of a typical white person. Hopefully your cool aid drinking followers will wake up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 PM on 03/21/2008
- TMAN I'm a Fan of TMAN 17 fans permalink
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Lets be very clear here that the "establishment" focused in D.C. but not restricted even to this nation, have had in place, from the very beginning, Hillary Rodham Clinton as the necessary Democratic Nominee. The establishment here being the military industrial complex, and Global corporatism. Barak Obama who can not be permitted to ascend to the presidency, wasn't a serious threat at first because, well you know, race would rear it's ugly but usefull head, and the "blue collars" will respond like Pavlov's dog. Notice how over night in the so called news cycle, suddenly Hillary's and oh my even John McCains files were intruded upon.

Smoke.

Mirrors.

When will you wake up, America? Time is running out on your last opportunity for authentic change.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 03/21/2008
- ChrisS13 I'm a Fan of ChrisS13 5 fans permalink

LOL, you do realize how idiotic you sound? Where are these secret meetings of top establishment people, do they meet weekly for lunch or perhaps cocktails? Do they have a secret handshake or decoder rings?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 03/21/2008

Wow.

I just logged on and saw this story. I thought to myself: I wonder how many comments I'll read before someone is blaming hillary somehow.
First one.
you all never disappoint me.

You people have turned into wing nuts.
WTF?
Wake up, you are all playing into the damn neo-con's hands.
Do you really not get that?

I'm telling you if Barack loses you crazy bastards will be to blame.
God!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

God...and thats the truth !!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:20 PM on 03/21/2008
- qdog112 I'm a Fan of qdog112 71 fans permalink
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Agreed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

Yes TMAN, we nnoticed , so now all you Obamans can stop with the Hillary ...witch hunt !! ( not that any of them would,proven Facts is not their speed !!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/21/2008
- cinemaven I'm a Fan of cinemaven 22 fans permalink
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You've been smoking mirrors?

Well, that explains a lot about your paranoia.
Try not to be so dismissive about those "blue collars" since it's the working man and woman who keep the country running.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:05 PM on 03/21/2008
- TMAN I'm a Fan of TMAN 17 fans permalink
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Cute rejoinder having little to do with the bigger picture. typical,

As to your other snide remark, I am one, I know from where I speak.
The truth can set you free...but first it'll hurt like hell.

You need to still your media driven mind, dump the "perceptions".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 PM on 03/21/2008
- BoBoPupkin I'm a Fan of BoBoPupkin 2 fans permalink

Impeach Condi !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:22 PM on 03/21/2008
- KOisGod I'm a Fan of KOisGod 342 fans permalink
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People make note:

NOTHING IS CONFIDENTIAL - ITS ALL OUT THERE FOR THEM TO SEE.

Also note: the 4th amendment of our constitution has been crossed out by a black sharpie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 03/21/2008
- Unlearn I'm a Fan of Unlearn 2 fans permalink

Newsflash,
Passport information is NOT IMPORTANT! How easy do you think it would be for any political operative to get this information? Addresses, social sec#, etc. When you are a recent college grad who can punch a name into a computer and see a photo and some personal information about a celebrity, it may seem like a fun idea. That is what happened to Hillary and most likely what happened to Obama and McCain. It is just amazing to see how quickly people latch on to these inane stories and turn them into the firestorm of the century.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 03/21/2008
- shengirl I'm a Fan of shengirl 10 fans permalink

There is a lot more in one's passport file than just the basic information, esp. in this day of National Security and background checks. Reports by US consular officials overseas, reports of any investigations that may have been undertaken for whatever reason, any sort of overseas police reports, and this is all PERSONAL. No one has the right to your personal information. I certainly hope these supposedly vetted and cleared contract workers are a little more professional than college grads trying to pay the bills. But probably not. Here's a thought, maybe they've been poking around in everybody's files, despite the supposed safeguards and "alert system." We'll just never hear about the files of the average schmucks who were snooped into. BTW, Bush the First was caught snooping into Bill Clinton's passport file to see if he had visited Moscow while he was in college. That led to a Special Prosecutor and an independent investigation. This is serious stuff.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/21/2008
- Unlearn I'm a Fan of Unlearn 2 fans permalink

I agree with you that from a personal security standpoint, this breach is a serious issue. Neither passport files nor any other type of personal information should be so easily accessible to contractors or anybody else. From a political standpoint, I don't see any reason why this information can be useful for or against any particular candidate other than to use the 'story' itself for political and propaganda purposes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

The criminal that breached Obama and McCain's file did not breach Hillary's.

Two days after Obama's was breached Hillary made a speech where she professed to know what country's Obama had traveled to. Making the claim that he had not traveled enough to certain country's and therefore shouldn't be president.

Obama better take this crime to its obvious conclusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 03/21/2008
- Unlearn I'm a Fan of Unlearn 2 fans permalink

If she knows what countries that Obama and McCain traveled to, then this election is a done deal- she has it locked up. That kind of information gives her a SIGNIFICANT advantage. She can use Obama's Spring Break '72 trip Jamaica to nail down his coffin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 PM on 03/21/2008
- pleeezzze I'm a Fan of pleeezzze 6 fans permalink

Get a grip Jacee....don't you know how Spitzer was caught ???
Booshies , homeland security !! Ha , I guess it was jeopordised by hiring a prostitute !!
LOL...most of those repub like their own sex it seems !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:54 PM on 03/21/2008
- plages I'm a Fan of plages 18 fans permalink

and you believe this administrations twists on what happened . . . just another shell game!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 03/21/2008

Nixon is probably rolling in his grave wishing he'd thought of it. Just arrange to have his offices broken into and the Watergate story would have gone away on the next day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 03/21/2008

This matter has everything to do not only with who is in charge of securing sensitive data in our State Department, and what procedures were in fact in place to be followed, and were they followed, but this also concerns those individuals entrusted with the public's trust - and who took oaths to UPHOLD the constitution, to UPHOLD the laws by which we claim to protect our democracy.

Sen. Clinton and Sen. McCain - as US senators both took oaths to uphold the people's trust.

They had a duty to speak out.

Why have we not heard a word about this from either of them?

If anything, this is yet another example of Sen. Obama's ability to not only use good sound judgement concerning such a serious matter, but it is yet another example of a true leader who steps up to the plate to model transparency in governance, and respect for and adherence to the laws created BY and FOR the people.

Americans have a right to know that there is a breech in the manner in which information in our State Dept. is supposed to be protected.

LAWMAKERS - our elected officials have a DUTY to report to the people, what is the business of and concern of the people regarding HOW they are being governed.

Where is the JUSTICE DEPARTMENT in this matter?
Where is the role of the FBI in investigating HOW such a breech could occur regarding Sen. Obama, and how suddenly - two other incidents are now being reported as breeches as well?

Who are the individuals involved in the so-called "other" breeches involving senators McCain and Clinton?
Who is investigating this matter?
Why would people be dismissed concerning what theoretically could be an attempt to misuse information protected by federal laws?

Would there not be protocols in place to protect HOW such a matter would be handled, particularly when factoring in that it is now stated that such breeches were occuring as far back as 2002?

How did 3 breeches occur with regard to Sen. Obama - with absolutely no investigation ensuing to protect his rights, or to insure that a proper investigation would be conducted in order to protect ALL Americans, as well as the protection of the system being utilized to protect those rights concerning security issues and the privacy rights of Americans?

How could low-level managers handle the management of this issue to the exclusion of higher level management where it is suggested that people were fired, which would at least suggest that higher level management would have to have been aware of these incidents, and which would therefore warrent that procedures and protocols be followed concerning the investigation of such a breech?

Something is not right in America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 03/21/2008

claiming that mccain's and clinton's files were breached too, sounds like damage control to me.

'oh, by the way, mccain's and clinton's were breached too, so no politics here, folks.'

there needs to be an independent investigation, not an in house one.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 03/21/2008
- isi I'm a Fan of isi 5 fans permalink

karmafriend, I agree. Hillary's breach happened during a training seminar, for heaven's sake. They were told to enter a family member's name and instead one fool entered Hillary's. It sounds like it was caught immediately. Barack's on the other hand appeared planned and timed to coincide with some politically important events.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 03/21/2008
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I guess you are just a tiny bit upset because this new revelation pokes a hole in what you hoped would save Obama from the media onslaught stemming from his pastor's outright hatred of America.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/21/2008

please don't stoop to the Hillary Haters loevel.

They are beyond anything approaching rational, they are feeding on u gliness and it really is best to focus on the good.

BTW... Here is a longer clip put in context. It is very interesting and frankly, I'd go to church their in a heartbeat.

http://tinyurl.com/2jlza9
He was quoting an ambassador he had seen on FOX right after the 9/11 attacks.

Bizarre what the media does.
They have yet to mention it. I find it hard to believe that they don't know.
It would be great if we could all pass this on whether you are a Barack supporter or a Hillary supporter.
Just because we support one does not mean we should not care about what happens to the other.

The hate mongers would not lift a finger to do anything decent or fair for Clinton but that is their own misery. They have to answer to themselves.
If the Dem's lose the White House it will be on their shoulders.

It is up to those who have some kind of sanity or objectivity left to keep things as high as possible.
Personally I support both candidates even though the Obamazis (which is not the same as an Obama supporters or Obamatons) make it very difficult to keep clear and positive.

We all succumb to attacking back... after wallowing in this mud how could you not?
But remember the one about wrestling with a pig in the mud?
You both get filthy but they enjoy it.

Hope you don't take this is lecturing.
I just get so sick of the hate and the over the top irrationality coming from Obamazis.

BTW, there are a few more very good sermon excerpts from sermons Rev, Wright gave.
It is difficult for people who are used to either main line Protestant churches or Catholic churches (or none)... to get used to the style of many black preachers.
I love it myself. I went to Seminary and experienced many different denominations and preaching styles from students and others.
Once you get into the rhythm and the fact that people in the congregation actually speak up its wonderful!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 03/21/2008

McCains Spiritual Advisor The Government enables "Black Genocide" Did you not read that? Why are you still on Obama's preacher? Just pick a word here and there and put it together to suit yourself and bla bla bla bla bla, sounds just like you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 03/21/2008
- LAJonathan I'm a Fan of LAJonathan 3 fans permalink

Smoke and mirrors, we have seen for years how they do this and this is another case of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:41 PM on 03/21/2008
- Jacee I'm a Fan of Jacee 18 fans permalink

The criminal that breached Obama and McCain's file did not breach Hillary's.

Two days after Obama's was breached Hillary made a speech where she professed to know what country's Obama had traveled to. Making the claim that he had not traveled enough to certain country's and therefore shouldn't be president.

Obama better take this crime to its obvious conclusion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 PM on 03/21/2008

Let's see when it's Obama passport files getting breached, HEADLINES. But when it's Clinton's and McCain's passport files being breached, the story gets shunted. I wonder will Keith Obamamann lead with this story tonight or just mention in passing. And how many comments yesterday accused the Clinton of being nefarious and evil? Hypocrisy much.

The Huff Obama. I love it when people quote the Huff Obama as some sort of authoritative source on other blogs. Realize what it is, the Huff Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:00 PM on 03/21/2008

Bet MyCane's passport was not breached. The WH is reporting it this way to not make it look like they are not only looking at Dems activities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 03/21/2008
- ChrisS13 I'm a Fan of ChrisS13 5 fans permalink

LOL, you Obama bots are very amusing. Hey I heard that HRC has been working on trying to crack Obamas locker combination at the gym. Pass it on....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:11 PM on 03/21/2008
- brueso I'm a Fan of brueso 4 fans permalink

In any normal temp worker situation, there would be a STRONG MESSAGE to everyone there and everyone coming in that any peeking will result in immediate dismissal. That it would happen only a couple of weeks after happening the first time suggests either that message wasn't conveyed or the person was only in there for that purpose and being fired was not a big deal.

The kind of information these people had access to could be used for potentially dangerous reasons. There should also be criminal ramifications of some kind for violating privacy. At the very least, I hope that Obama is changing his social security number!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 03/21/2008
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