Carville Compares Richardson Endorsement To Biblical Betrayal

Time Magazine:

Spirited Clinton adviser tells the New York Times that New Mexican governor's backing Obama during Holy Week was "appropriate" and "ironic" because it was like Judas selling out Jesus.

"Mr. Richardson's endorsement came right around the anniversary of the day when Judas sold out for 30 pieces of silver, so I think the timing is appropriate, if ironic," Mr. Carville said, referring to Holy Week.

Read the whole story: Time Magazine

Comments

[newshawk14]

Quite a while back, I started a thread that had a lot of positive response, I won't speculate as to why
it all disappeared. My original inquiry, was there anyone out there, besides me, that would like to chip
in for a free lobotomy, for James Carville?

[Indepatriot]

Hawk, that's from the Department of Redundancy Department .

[johnnygoodwud]

carville, hillary, and her band of advisers all have this entitlement mentality, like 'hey, you owe me'. they are also yesterdays news. hey james you got on the wrong bandwagon dude. you and your wife are nothing more than political whores, who will sell out, and sell anyone out for a few $$$. i suggest perhaps you hit the hinderlands and find your old boss bill,,,,,,maybe you can hold his leash, and keep the muzzle on him. seems he got a little out of hand yesterday.

[rblackbird]

Whores? I see you attended the Rev. Wright school of homiletics.

[rzan]

What I want to know is - who do Bill and Hillary owe? They need to produce those tax returns and list of contributors to Bill's library.

[Kim445588]

Who do they owe? That would be the corporations and the lobbyist. That's who runs the country when we elect sell outs like Billary. Almost over now.

[WakeUpBill]

You know if ANYONE knows about "Biblical Betrayal" -- It would be Bill Clinton.

When Hillary wins, Fox is ready to post a rumor of who Client #1 has been the last 8 years...

[SlithyTove]

The lack of any hint of graciousness, indeed the nastiness and petty drama-queen outbursts are telling, indeed. It has over time dramatically changed the way I view the Clinton candidacy.­..I hate the divisiveness this type of rhetoric and mudslinging is bringing to the party.

What is most important in public life in a democracy is that you remain loyal to the will of the people you purport to represent, and true to your principles and ideals. Intemperate and immature statements such as Carville's, Wolfson's and Penn's make the Clinton camp appear to hold personal loyalty above all, like greasy Mafiosi, and all the unsavory quid pro quos that go hand in hand with such a world view. What would Mr. Smith do?

Carville looks more and more alien every time I see him over the years...th­is picture bears an uncanny resemblance to Smeagol from Lord of the Rings...wh­ich makes sense, as "My Pre-cious!" (a senior administration appointment) seems to be slipping from his grasp.

[newshawk14]

SlithyTove, a great post. See my above post, can we count on you for a few simoleons?

[BigSid]

When speaking of a relationship between two people, wouldn't "personal loyalty" be the same as "the will of the people"?

[rblackbird]

You Obamalons are really scared, aren't you? Your imitation messiah can't knock out Hillary, can not get 50% in the polls. The campaign keeps going because he can not close the sale. She keeps coming at him and you can not get her to quit, to shut up, to give up. You have the greatest fear that you will be exposed for your devotion to a seducer, for being so easily misled by fanciful speeches and your own ungrounded fantasies about the dawn of the new Obama tomorrow. Obama MUST win, because if he loses you will all be cast adrift. So, you belittle her and her husband and her staff with the foulest language and hatred and vitriol. You find succor in making ad hominem attacks on them, in mocking them, in degrading them. Maybe this will finish her off before the convention, you desperately hope. But nothing else has. Talk about doing anything to win. Regardless what you say, she will not quit, she will not fall apart, will not break down. Even when"friends" abandon her, she keeps on fighting. See you in Denver, bub.

[rzan]

And an awful lot of "friends" have abandoned her. It says more about her than the friends.

[turkeyfish]

"You have the greatest fear that you will be exposed for your devotion to a seducer,"

You might want to reflect seriously on what you have just said given a relatively recent impeachment episode that in many ways tarnished us all.

"Obama MUST win, because if he loses you will all be cast adrift. "

I beseach you to rethink again seriously what you are saying here about yourself.

I have decided, like Mr. Richarson, that I am supporting Mr. Obama not because I fear being cast adrift (that happend he day I was born), but rather because Mr. Obama has proven bettern able to express his vision of where he will help guide my tiny raft in dangerous republican waters.

[SlithyTove]

Your mistake, and that of many other diehard Clinton fans, is to assume that disgust with these campaign tactics is driven by nothing more than irrational pre-existing hatred for Hillary, coupled with blind devotion to Obama. Nothing could be further from the truth.

I supported the platform and ideals of Kucinich, and was neutral between HRC and Obama (other than some discomfort at electing another family member of a recent president). I am not all fired up about Obama while remaining blind to his shortcomings to the challenges he will face in the general election.

I have been pushed away from the Clinton campaign by its actions, not drawn to the Obama campaign by its rhetoric. The Clinton campaign needs to take a hard look at the way their tactics have alienated otherwise neutral or friendly voters outside the hard-core of supporters each camp has. It really is sad that this nonsense is tearing the party apart.

[SifSkade]

What is she fighting for, at this point? That's my question. Now that FL and MI are closed books, the only way she can win is to force the superdelegates to ignore the popular vote and pledged delegate count and flip her the nomination. And someone who is willing to take the nomination that way is not motivated by concern for America or the party. And it doesn't matter if she truly believes that she'd be better for American than Obama -- I'm sure she really does think that -- the bottom line is that if she hasn't convinced the rank-and-file Dems of that, then she doesn't get the nomination.

[tbone99]

And if anybody knows about betrayal it would be James Carville who will basically sell any election as a cheap facsimile of democracy.

[vincealy]

The Clinton crew Carville ;Lannie Davis ; Penn ,Wolfson , Bill ect , are running Carl Rove . Timed for real Democrats like Bill Richardson to reclaim the Democratic Party. When will CNN or the other Clinton network MSNBC play the tapes on Hillary Bosnia Adventure . Two candidates have passed the trust test Hillary ain't one of them

[Edgy]

Thank You tbone99!!!

That is indeed rich that james Carville would spout off about a) betrayal, b) biblical and c) Holy Week.

As a lifelong Democrat who has contributed not a small amount to many of these presidential candidates, the DSCC and the DCCC, as well as to gubenatorial and congressional races NOT in my home state, I can say that I am mighty sick and tired of the fucking partisan shit being flung around by the Clinton camp.

Do it at your own peril,,,when you bring the Democratic party to the same level as the Republican party, I might just NOT vote for the first time since I was 18 years old in 1972.

[abbiehoffmansghost]

The last time that I took anything that Carville had to say seriously was the third Wednesday of never.

[HumeSkeptic]

Clintonistas don't understand that for some loyalty is to the country, not to Clinton.

[BigSid]

Better go buy Obama an American flag lapel pin.

[rzan]

Most people don't wear American flag lapel pins. What is this obsession with American flag lapel pins?

[HumeSkeptic]

Ah! Now ET speaks.

[Louisesrants]

Loyalty! I guess we can't associate that with Richardson. His experience in foreign affairs comes from appointments by Bill Clinton. Suddenly, because of one special speech by Obama, Richardson decides to endorse him. Maybe Richardson didn't listen closely to the speech. Didn't he notice all the unanswered questions about Obama's 20 year association with Jeremiah Wright? Did he miss Obama's loyalty to this pastor? This is a lesson in loyalty Richardson should take to heart. Political ambition rears it's ugly head once again and wins over common sense and loyalty as far as Richardson is concerned.

[2Nurselady]

Very well said, Louisesrants!

I agree.

[disgusted48]

If all you have on Obama, is that his pastor, not him, but his pastor, misspoke on 3 occasions in 35 years of public speaking, and a tenuous Rezco association, I guess you have no choice but to keep beating a dead horse. Hill and Bill should be so lucky. We're waiting for tax returns and some reports about her involvement in policymaking during the Clinton presidency. Also they will have to deal with whatever the swiftboating right wing can dig up if Sen. Clinton wins the primary. And they will dig something up.

With regard to loyalty. Blind loyalty will often buy you a first class ticket straight to hell. Sometimes good judgment and moral decisions trump loyalty. In addiiton, since when have the Clinton's ever been loyal to anyone but themselves?

[EvoMan]

Perhaps, as someone else said, he loves his country more than he loves the Clintons.

[Lyria]

Bill Richardson has been logging in years of foreign policy experience since 1972, long before his, relatively, short service in the Clinton administration.

[julescator]

I think maybe Carville was expecting a Cabinet Position. This certainly was an aweful thing to say. He needs to calm down.

[Whinger]

And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you - ask what you can do for your country.

Bill Richardson has put his country before himself and his friends, a true patriot.

[peibossman]

Richardson didn't betray the Clintons, the Clintons don't own Richardson, he can choose whom he wants in the Democratic race. Richardson is a "little big" on himself but probably a decent leader for his country and state.

[rzan]

Richardson is more than just a decent leader, he has been nominated five times for the Nobel peace prize. He is a very skilled diplomat. The Clintons were lucky to have him.

[Mapleave]

Didn't President Carter say (approximate): "The Clintons are there when they need you."

Bill Richardson served in the Clinton Admin. with great competence and honor.
Why does he "owe" them? He "paid" them with good service to the country. And, he continues to speak warmly about The Clintons.

He's disgusted by Penn, Wolfson, Carvile etc. The nastiness.
Recall the debates? He was always the one who objected to sniping.

How about "We are deeply disappointed,of course, but respect his decision." That's how Edwards handled Kerry. It was classy. Instead, kitchen sink. HRC reminds me of "W" with loyalty or death approach, and her inability to admit mistakes or show grace. Not good leadership traits.

[Ontariocentric]

Carvile is just a talking head, and that's all he should be taken for.
He says stupid things, stupidly.

I agree Richardson doesn't "owe" Hillary anying. He knows that, she knows that, they are politicos. Richardson's endorsement of Obama was political maneuvering. Hardly a betrayal, for HRC or anyone, just business as usual.

Richardson has lead a successful political career, and now he's starting to cash in. Obama's super campaign shines under an enormous spotlight, and Richardson wants to be under it.

He's rooting for the more popular guy. So what? He's allowed to. It doesn't mean the voters are any less conflicted about where to throw their support.

Gore is still silent. He knows how to play his card right!

[Jaxxon]

According to Maureen Dowd's article in the NYT today, a friend of President Carter said, "The Clintons are there when they need you," not the former president himself.

But it would not surprise me if the former president shared those sentiments.

[S1m0n]

If Richardson is a Judas for endorsing Obama as best for the party, despite his personal ties to Clinton, someone should be asking Carville to estimate how many of the superdelegate votes and endorsements Hillary Clinton has racked up have done the opposite: voted personal loyalty ahead of the best interets of the party.

[CBS]

Could someone explain why Hillary has found it necessary to surround herself with these kinds of MEN? Would this be what her cabinet would look like? Perhaps old snake head (as his wife calls him) could be national security adviser, or even secretary of state?!!!! He would just scare the bejezus out of "our enemies" The slime factor is just becoming comical. I have heard more than one former Hillary supporter refer to her campaign staff and tactics as the reason for defecting. By the time PA rolls around I think there will be many who will have washed their hands and are done with the Clintons big time and forever.

[rzan]

Snake head. I hadn't heard that one, but he does look reptilian.