HE\'S BACK: Bill Clinton\'s Campaign Remarks

HE'S BACK: Bill Clinton's Campaign Remarks

  |   March 22, 2008 05:33 PM


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The New York Times reports that a top aide to Barack Obama accused former President Bill Clinton of employing "divisive attacks" to promote his wife's candidacy:

As Senator Barack Obama folded his arms and looked on, one of his leading military advisers forcefully defended Mr. Obama's patriotism here Saturday and accused former President Bill Clinton of trying to employ "divisive attacks" to promote his wife's presidential candidacy.


Mr. Clinton, in a speech to voters in North Carolina on Friday, said "it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country."

At a town meeting here Saturday, retired Air Force Gen. Merrill A. McPeak, who is a co-chairman of Mr. Obama's campaign, read the quote from Mr. Clinton. A few members of the audience gasped and hissed at the former president's words.

"Let me say first, we will have such an election this year because both Barack Obama and John McCain are great patriots who love this country and are devoted to it -- so is Hillary Clinton," General McPeak said, speaking over loud applause. "Any suggestion to the contrary is flat wrong."

Mr. Obama, on his first trip to Oregon before the state's primary on May 13, did not address the comments from Mr. Clinton. He stood a few feet away from the retired general as he made his remarks before a crowd of more than 1,500 people in a Medford community center.

Keep reading the New York Times report.

The Clinton campaign has reined in the former president in the past after he made other similarly divisive remarks, including:

Calling Obama's Iraq War claims a "fairy tale":

"Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen," Clinton had said in accusing Obama of distorting his stance on the war.

Telling Charlie Rose that a vote for Obama would be like "rolling the dice":

In a hard-changing interview with Charlie Rose tonight, Bill Clinton said Americans who are prepared to choose someone with less experience, are prepared to "roll the dice" about the future of America. "It's less predictable, isn't it? When is the last time we elected a president based on one year of service before he's running?"


"What do you want to do -- whether you think it matters that, I mean, in theory, no experience matters," Clinton said. "In theory, we could find someone who is a gifted television commentators and let them run. They'd have only one year less experience in national politics..."


 
 

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if this is all it takes to get obama's campaign to wet their diapers and start wailing and drooling, they'd better hope they don't have to face the GOP attack machine...i've yet to see a campaign so full of thin-skinned whiners and crybabies...this is the real deal, not a cakewalk in a safely ultraliberal district...time to 'sack up' and 'grow a set' if you wanna run with the big dawgs...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 03/25/2008

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 AM on 03/25/2008

Remember all the stuff about Bill Clinto questioning Obama's patriotism?

Bill Clinton's comments were distorted by several news reports.Check out MediaMatters below to see what he actually said:


http://mediamatters.org/items/200803280010?f=h_top

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 03/29/2008

Speaking of comments, anyone hear the outrageous rants spewed by the NEW Pastor of Obama's Church.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 PM on 03/24/2008

The problem is not that Clinton did not praise Obama. He's not obligated to do so. The problem is that he is endorsing the Republican opponent, and implying that he is superior in every way to his wife's democratic opponent during the democratic primary season.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 03/24/2008

There is even a certain logic to it. Having been the President at a young age like Obama's, "knowing what you know now compared to what you didn't know back then", perhaps the Clintons honestly feel that life and political experience is that vital to an American president. Such that staying in the race when it's either impossible or disastrous to win is okay. After all, what have you got to lose?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:57 AM on 03/25/2008

There us nothing wrong with praising McCain as he is undeniably a courageous man and he indeed loves his country. My interpretation of Clinton was that he was including Obama as the one of "two candidates who love this country."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 PM on 03/24/2008

If Hillary is supposed to be protecting our sleeping children at 3am, why would she put her own daughter's life at risk in Bosnia? Oh, right. She wouldn't. Because she was lying. I used to respect Hillary Clinton and Bill Clinton. Now, I can barely stand to look a them. If she wins the nomination, I will vote for a third party candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:33 PM on 03/24/2008

Here we go again.

The Obamaholes are reading into comments AGAIN.


Now, tell me how Bill Clinton, Ed Rendell, Ferraro, and all blue collar whites are racists again, please, its been a while.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 03/24/2008

When all the Clintons have done to this point is to go below the belt, it's easy to see how this comment was misconstrued by the Obama camp. That being said, McPeak and other Obama supporters have to remain above the fray that the Clintons are creating and show some discipline. At this point, by the time we get to the general election whoever makes it, Obama or Clinton, will be thoroughly bruised and worn out. This race has become like the Democrats Iraq, supposed to be easy but having the potential to bring down the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:17 PM on 03/24/2008

He's not a racist, just a traitor to his child and to the party that gave him the white house as he endorses the republican candidate who insulted his own daughter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:56 PM on 03/24/2008

Exactly, there HE goes again waving that stinky finger! He should know about other distractions getting in the way of politics!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 03/24/2008

This is the whole quote:

"I think it would be a great thing if we had an election year where you had two people who loved this country and were devoted to the interest of this country," Mr. Clinton told the group in Charlotte, N.C., according to a report by NBC News. "And people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues, instead of all this other stuff that always seems to intrude itself on our politics."

Look's like Barry's people are cherry picking and the Huffington Post is holding the ladder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 03/24/2008


Actually he prefaced it with saying John McCain was a great American and he and Hillary were good friends, then went to 'I think it would be a great thing if we have an election etc, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 03/24/2008

There are 2 things that never ceases to amaze me:

People who "love" america but don't "Love" Americans...
&
People who forget that this Nation was founded on the concept that dissent (even vigirous) is the most "Patriotic" thing you can do.


Its this general failing that seems to keep our country from becoming a more perfect union. I love my country dearly, but there are things about my country that I am loathe to accept. Bill complains that Racial Identity should not be a part of this campaign, but a house divided against itself cannot stand and if we ignore the very foundations that OUR Nation is built on we cannot honestly expect it to continue. Yes we need the racial i.d. issue to end, but we need to fix the problem and not the blame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 AM on 03/24/2008

There is a new problem with the Clinton's behavior which makes it even more important that Obama get the nomination. When he was attacked before he was defended by a lot of people with whom he has now lost all credibility. He played the race card and then says that is not what he meant. He makes a clear inference that only a McCain and Hillary match up would result in two patriots running for president and the tries to deny it, wagging his finger the way he did when he lied about something we all thought should not have been an issue.

It is nonesense that they have been vetted. If she is the candidate the Republicans will force an explanation of the donations to the Clintonsfrom the Canadian Mining Magnet who through Bill's efforts received mining rights from the dictator of Kazakhstan. They will deny there was a quid pro quo implied for future services, White Water where there partner was convicted of 18 counts of felony fraud will be brought up and they will again say they knew nothing about it. Most gave them credibility then. Will they give them credibility now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 AM on 03/24/2008

What's truely pathetic about Bill Clinton's remarks is that he was subjected to the same smear in 92. His challenger, a highly decorated Vietnam veteran was calling him out as a draft dodger. Senator Kerry, among others, came to his defense. Bill is pulling the exact same stunts that Bust pulled against him.
The only difference this time: he's doing this to a fellow democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 03/23/2008

Former President Bill Clinton's unbelievable praise of John McCain as a patriot seems out of character for him and what I thought of his ethical boundaries. If Hillary shares her husband's wholesale praise of "Bomb, Bomb Iran" John McCain, then I think Obama looks better and better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 03/24/2008

Now I don't mean to demean Ms Clinton, or Bill Clinton, but for me, there is one very important issue that speaks to Bill Clinton's claim of Hillary loving her country. Just read the links:

http://www.thenation.com/blogs/campaignmatters?pid=239574

http://www.liberalvaluesblog.com/?p=2856

http://www.care2.com/c2c/share/detail/627247

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 03/23/2008

"AP would have you believe that General McPeak was just an Obama "aide." In fact, he's the former Chief of Staff for the entire Air Force. Even better, he's a Republican who served for nearly 2 years as Bill Clinton's Air Force Chief of Staff. He's also a co-chair of Obama's presidential campaign, but for AP to refer to him as an "Obama aide" hardly does the man justice. This isn't some kid we're talking about." -- AmericanBlog.com

It is important for both Obama and Clinton supporters to not take everything they read and hear at face value.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/23/2008

the naughty boy lip-biting pause

the angry authoritarian finger-wagging

ENOUGH!!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/23/2008

Will not the Billary will say anything, do anything, and just plain old lie like the dirty rugs that they are to win? America WAKE UP it's all about Bill and Hillary - you my friends are just obstacles along their path of political avarice.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 03/23/2008

Bill Clinton is an excellent example of Lord Acton's comment that great men are almost always bad men. Among this "great" man's many neo-lib accomplishments was the the decade long embargo of Iraq that primarily killed innocent people, including a half a million children (that Madeleine Albright referred to in a May 11, 1996 60 Minutes interview in this way...."It"s a hard choice, but I think, we, think, it"s worth it." A half a million dead children was worth what again?


That embargo did little to slow down Saddam. That embargo was a crime against humanity, in that it used biological weaponry against the civilian population, in a secondary way. By this I mean, the embargo among other things, denied the population proper infrastructure support, like water treatment pumps, and related hardware, that were denied by Bill Clinton himself. The lack of these infrastructure elements, caused outbreaks of dysentery and diarrhea, cholera and other diseases associated with polluted water supplies. And these were known knowns, to state it in Rumsfeldian logic, that Clinton and his administration were well aware of. When you set the conditions for this sort of pandemic, you are guilty of biological warfare.

And now, this man of "honor" who claims only Hillary and Mad Dog McCain love their country, is slinging mud at Obama, and the people around him who speak truth to power. Obama's wife, in her now famous speech which spoke truth to power, addressed the utter hopelessness of so many people of color in the face of a nation that remains racist at it's core, while painting the walls of it's edifice as if it was different. She spoke something that was politically incorrect, much like Rev. Wright has spoken truth to power and damned the politically incorrect mantle...and here's political opportunist Bill Clinton trying desperately, with unethical and immoral statements, to call into question Obama's love of country! And, apparently, Bill would rather see Mad Dog as President than Obama!


Obama's recent speech in that regard was a bulwark for the discussion that must take place in this country, if we are ever to get past our racist past and move into a future that will be fair to all. If Bill has his way, that discussion will NEVER happen, and the country will continue off the cliff that he helped push it toward. Hillary is working overtime to make that happen, and these comments indicate just how desperate she and her husband are to deliver the return on investment that the military industrialists (and others) have demanded of them...and they expect RETURN ON INVESTMENT!


Bill Clinton is a "great" man who meets Lord Acton's description. His speaking these words should guarantee that Hillary NEVER get into the White House, as anything but a guest. I am not an Obama supporter, but outrageous comments like this one from the greatest right-wing Democrat of our time, only push me more toward voting for Obama. I am a Nader supporter, but the slime that Bill Clinton is slinging makes me want more than anything, to use my vote to prevent another Clinton from further staining the honor of this highly besmirched country or ours. If this country has a Bush a Clinton a Bush and another Clinton as Presidents right in a row...god help us all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 03/23/2008

obama's recent speech was a bulwark against the possibility that someone might actually start looking into his self-described 'superior judgment' (rezko, meeting with weather underground bombers, rev "god damn america/the gov't created aids to kill the black man/the u.s. deserved 9-11" wright,) nothing more, nothing less...he used the age-old tactic of 'blame the white man, excuse the black man' that makes the far left tremble in delightful self-loathing

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 03/25/2008

Bill Clinton's remark have been all on target and address the truth, which is why the Obama campaign is so quick to smear our ex-President by labeling him as racist and McCarthyist. The behavior of the Obama campaign seriously risks permanently fracturing the Democratic Party into the Kennedy wing and the Clinton wing.

Obama is clearly a Kennedy stooge elevated for the sole purpose of destroying Hillary Clinton's run for the Presidency. The Obama campaign, itself has purposely used race to divide the party and has dishonored the legacy of MLK. This is the price Kennedy is willing to pay to restore his family's lost legacy.

If this is successful, the Democrats who support the Clintons may very well find the need to form a new centrist party based primarily from the big blue states which overwhelmingly voted for Clinton in the primaries, and will take the Senators and Congressman along with them and join w like-minded Republicans in a totally new centrist party comprised of existing elected officials.

I might add that the motivation for this move is simple:

It's the economy, Stupid !

Someone who knows what they are doing needs to dig us out of the hole that Bush has driven us into. Obama has no record of doing anything on a national scale except stirring up this racial tension within the Democratic Party as a vehicle to restore Kennedy as head of the Party. It will not work. The Party will self-destruct before this occurs in the interest of the well-being of its constituents who want the country run on an economic basis not an emotional feel-good basis.

The time to start building this coalition is right now. A good place to start is among the Democratic Congressman whose districts voted for Hillary. Many, if not all of them, are Super-Delegates, so they are all together and talking anyway. A second pillar is the business executives whose businesses blossomed and boomed during the 1992-2000 Clinton economy, many of which are the backbone of the current economy. The final pillar, of course, is the working men and women in these Congressional Districts who want the country run be responsible capable people with a proven track record.

Get Real !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:29 PM on 03/23/2008

RichLiberal--Again, with the use of the "Obama campaign" quick to smear our ex-president...how about if you acknowledge that the "smear" came from Bill Clinton's Air Force Chief of Staff, a Republican who is co-chair of the Obama campaign--not an underling who doesn't know any better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 03/25/2008

I can't believe you're actually advocating a division in this country's progressive party because of the candidacy of Barack Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:43 PM on 03/24/2008

RichLiberal, this is exactly the point which everyone seems to miss because of all the Kennedy & Kerry smoke and the Oprah mirrors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 03/24/2008


First of all, a little context would go a long way, and I'm not sure why the Clinton camp hasn't released the full speech, or at least a longer version of the quote in order to clear the air (if, in fact that would clear the air). But here are some things to consider before we accuse Bill of Obama-bashing, if you're looking to give him the benefit of a doubt:

1. He doesn't ever actually mention Obama.

2. He is speaking to a group of veterans.

3. Hillary would be running in the hypothetical general election (hence, "would be") against another veteran (John McCain).

There is, therefore, an automatic connection for the VFW's with McCain that they would not have with Hillary. Thus, the comparison between Hillary and McCain is one to show VFW's what they should do in that hypothetical election is to vote for the candidate "who is right on these issues".

Now, it's clearly logical to say that Bill was implying that Hillary would in fact be the candidate "who is right on these issues" and that McCain is wrong, because his hypothetical is about Hillary and McCain, and he is obviously for Hillary. But I feel like it is a stretch (though not altogether illogical) to say that Bill thinks that Obama does not love America or that he is wrong on the issues, and given the lack of context it is certainly not deductive.

Clinton's camp came out with this statement: "Actually, as is indicated by the quote itself, President Clinton was talking about the need to talk about issues, rather than falsely questioning any candidate"s patriotism."

It's probably NOT a stretch, then, to believe that Clinton was saying that Obama, who has been constantly bombarded with questions of his patriotism (for stuff like not wearing a flag-pin on his lapel) would create so many distractions that people would not be able to ask themselves "who is right on theses issues".

But is that, itself, calling Obama's patriotism, love for America, or stance on the issues into question? No. At most he is saying "right or wrong, people question Obama's patriotism", which is true. So Bill is talking about electability not his personal view of Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:12 PM on 03/23/2008


I'm with you, soxypirate. Here's a post of mine that I will add to yours:

Bill Clinton's remark have been all on target and address the truth, which is why the Obama campaign is so quick to smear our ex-President by labeling him as racist and McCarthyist. The behavior of the Obama campaign seriously risks permanently fracturing the Democratic Party into the Kennedy wing and the Clinton wing.

Obama is clearly a Kennedy stooge elevated for the sole purpose of destroying Hillary Clinton's run for the Presidency. The Obama campaign, itself has purposely used race to divide the party and has dishonored the legacy of MLK. This is the price Kennedy is willing to pay to restore his family's lost legacy.

If this is successful, the Democrats who support the Clintons may very well find the need to form a new centrist party based primarily from the big blue states which overwhelmingly voted for Clinton in the primaries, and will take the Senators and Congressman along with them and join w like-minded Republicans in a totally new centrist party comprised of existing elected officials.

I might add that the motivation for this move is simple:

It's the economy, Stupid !

Someone who knows what they are doing needs to dig us out of the hole that Bush has driven us into. Obama has no record of doing anything on a national scale except stirring up this racial tension within the Democratic Party as a vehicle to restore Kennedy as head of the Party. It will not work. The Party will self-destruct before this occurs in the interest of the well-being of its constituents who want the country run on an economic basis not an emotional feel-good basis.

The time to start building this coalition is right now. A good place to start is among the Democratic Congressman whose districts voted for Hillary. Many, if not all of them, are Super-Delegates, so they are all together and talking anyway. A second pillar is the business executives whose businesses blossomed and boomed during the 1992-2000 Clinton economy, many of which are the backbone of the current economy. The final pillar, of course, is the working men and women in these Congressional Districts who want the country run be responsible capable people with a proven track record.

Get Real !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:33 PM on 03/23/2008

But before Obamamaniacs pop their top over that, let me remind you that another Obama aide recently said about Clinton:

She is not seen as trustworthy by the American people. She has consistently in this campaign engaged in political calculation to mislead voters¦.It will nearly be impossible to win a general election if more than half the electorate thinks you're untrustworthy. If Sen. Clinton wants to have a discussion about electability and vetting, we're happy to have it. She would be a deeply flawed nominee. There are character issues here that will cause us real problems in the fall.

Is Obama's camp saying that Clinton is actually untrustworthy, or are they saying that America's view of Clinton as untrustworthy would be a problem in the general election? Actually, in this example I think that they are saying both, and if they think that Clinton's character issues will cause problems, wait until the Republicans get to use this kind of stuff against her in the general election!

If McCain's camp were to use Clinton's quote against Obama in a general election, Obama could simply say "Well, Bill Clinton was talking about distractions that exist and that are a result of a false impression of me as unpatriotic, and he did not say that he agreed with that impression."

Now how does Hillary respond to an Obama camp quote that she misleads voters and would be a deeply flawed candidate?

And which of these campaigns is truly dividing the party?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 03/23/2008

Actually, given the tenor of the attacks on Obama because of his pastor, Reverend Wright. And the Clinton bloggers who keep harping on how detestable the Reverend Wright is, I don't think anybody misinterpreted Bill Clinton's meaning or what he meant to say, especially to this audience of veterans. But I do think they were hoping to get a pass because it was Bill. I think that Obama and the admirals message was required to say that they were not going to let these "under the radar" statements go unchallenged.

The trick now is to actually get the lies that Hillary has promoted of being against NAFTA and the whole Bosnia fiction get covered by the MSM who has so far given her a total pass on these total fabrications. And to actually force the Clinton folks to provide their tax returns and Clinton Library donors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:39 AM on 03/24/2008

soxypirate,

I don't know if you are a lawyer or not; but if you are, criminals should look you up because you can spin their crime to make them look so innocent. I suppose you came from the same legal camp as Bill Clinton, so it depends on what "is" means! When Bill Clinton, after dismissing Hillary's opponent (who by the way, if you listen to Bill's speech, has no name); then goes to say, how wonderful it would be to have a race between Sen. McCain and Hillary, both of whom love the country so much, and have done so much for the country, does not mean he is questioning the loyalty and service of the third candidate, ( the one who is nameless, but whom every one knows) simply boils down to "character issues," that are not named, insults our intelligence. Could it be that your "character issues," in light of Bill 's emphasis on "love of country" and "service of country," are euphemisms for disloyalty, (or may be hate of country) and lack of service, for the unnamed third candidate? Why can't Bill Clinton treat us as adults? Why can't he come out and say what he means so that there would be no need for people like you to try to spin it for him? Bill repeatedly refers to Sen. Obama as "Hillary's opponent." No name! No recognition of his position as a United States Senator! And, yet he always has some kind and laudatory words to say about Senator McCain. How revealing! You ask "which of these campaigns is truly dividing the party?" My answer: The campaign that has repeatedly lavished praises on the Republican nominee while mocking and denigrating a potential Democratic nominee! I am sure that as a defender of Bill Clinton,( who repeatedly talks about the nameless Hillary's opponent) you know the campaign I am referring to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 AM on 03/24/2008

I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:22 PM on 03/25/2008

Well, Hillary wanted a slugfest and now she's got one. Too bad she loses either way.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:47 PM on 03/23/2008

Not so fast! Check out Rev. Manning from Harlem. He makes Rev. Wright look like Mary Poppins. This man is vile. The REV is a Black minister who absolutely hates OBAMA. He trashes OBama during his sermons and trashes his own congregation. Why should you care about this guy? He has a $300,000 earmark from HILLARY CLINTON. Now why haven't we heard about him. I heard this vile guy's tape on Hannity last week. Never did he mention that Clinton gave him $300,000. No wonder she is keeping her earmarks private and won't show them like Barack has. GO CHECK OUT THIS GUY. GOOGLE REV. MANNING.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 03/23/2008