Prison Calls It Food, Inmates Disagree

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WILSON RING | March 23, 2008 05:01 AM EST | AP

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MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless raisins, beans, vegetable oil, tomato paste, powdered milk and dehydrated potato flakes.

Prison officials call it a complete meal. Inmates say it's so awful they'd rather go hungry.

On Monday, the Vermont Supreme Court will hear arguments in a class action suit brought by inmates who say it's not food but punishment and that anyone subjected to it should get a formal disciplinary process first.

Prison officials see nutraloaf as a tool for behavior modification.

"It's commonplace in other states as a way of providing nutrition in a mechanism that dissuades inmates from throwing feces, urine, trays and silverware," said Vermont Corrections Commissioner Rob Hofmann.

"It tends to have the desired outcome," Hofmann said. "Once the offender relents, we stop with the nutraloaf. That's our goal, to protect our staff and not have them subjected to behavior that the average Vermonter would find incomprehensible."

Seth Lipschutz, an attorney with Vermont's Prisoner's Rights office, says the state has a legitimate interest in changing the behavior of inmates who misbehave.

But he says a diet of nutraloaf is punishment, plain and simple. To call it anything else is "playing with words to get what they want. It's wrong and it's sad," Lipschutz said.

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"If it's punishment, you've got to follow the rules," Lipschutz said. "Even in prison you get a little bit of due process."

Even Hofmann doesn't care for the taste of the stuff. "It reminded me of eating my vegetables and I'm not necessarily a big fan of vegetables," he said.

Nutraloaf and its equivalents have been used for decades in prisons across the country. In 1978, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a concoction used in Arkansas known as "'grue' might be tolerable for a few days and intolerably cruel for weeks or months."

A federal judge ruled in 1988 that the use of nutraloaf by the Michigan Department of Corrections was punishment.

Now, Michigan inmates are only given nutraloaf after going through the disciplinary process that lands them in segregation, department spokesman Russ Marlan said.

"It's done very infrequently, but it seems to accomplish its goal of preventing prisoners from using or abusing food or their containers in a way that could adversely affect our staff," Marlan said.

The National Prison Project of the American Civil Liberties Union gets occasional inmate complaints about nutraloaf, but the issue hasn't been involved in the group's litigation in years.

"Our position is that it shouldn't be used unless a violation has to do with food. It shouldn't be used as punishment," said the Prison Project's Public Policy Coordinator Jody Kent. "And even in those circumstances, they have to make sure it won't put at risk their health."

Vermont Assistant Attorney General Kurt Kuehl, who will argue the case for the Department of Corrections, said the use of nutraloaf isn't punishment.

Instead, Kuehl said, it's as if a correctional officer were to find an inmate with a knife. He wouldn't have to hold a hearing to take the knife away.

"It's taking an administrative action to protect the facility," said Kuehl.

Afterward, the inmate can be subject to a separate disciplinary hearing for the conduct that led to being fed nutraloaf.

Most Vermont inmates given nutraloaf have used their eating utensils to throw body waste. Nutraloaf, however, is served on a simple piece of paper, removing from the inmate's reach the utensils that can be used to store the waste before it is thrown.

Hofmann said Vermont prisons average about one nutraloaf episode a month.

Christopher Williams, 29, who is charged in a 2006 school shooting that killed two people in Essex, was given nutraloaf after he'd assaulted guards and smeared excrement in his cell.

Since then, his name hasn't appeared on the list of inmates given nutraloaf.

"His name was nowhere to be found," Hofmann said. "I presume it was effective."

MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless ra...
MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless ra...
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Inspired by this article, I looked up a recipe for Nutraloaf (http://www.wptz.com/news/15695883/detail.html) and served it at a dinner party tonight. It really wasn't bad! Add about a cup of water to the recipe, though. If prepared as written, it would be rather dry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 03/25/2008
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Thinking..­.....typo.­...excuse me......it's early and I was up late firing off letters to my representatives in the political world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 03/24/2008
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I was thining, "When did I write this article?.......but then I LQQked at the name of the author........I found my "twin" out here in this crazy, right is left, up is now down, North is South, etc., world. The gnashing of the teeth of the greater population......the horrible conficts around this Earth....the collapse of currency globally...sounds like Barry McGuire's song, "Eve of Destruction", written in 1965! For all you fellow peaceniks out there......it's a blast from the past we used to sing loudly! Wake up people! History is coming up fast in that rear view mirror of life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 03/24/2008
- Novista I'm a Fan of Novista 8 fans permalink

Ah, I see the control freaks are alive and well.

Don't worry, chums, this year 1% of the American population incarcerated. Next year, it could be your turn. Oh ... I forgot ... yeah, you're the ones who say "If you don't do anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about.," right? Scanned your system lately to see if some child porn might have been d/l by a malware? Heh, ignorance of the law is no excuse ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 03/24/2008

Ummmm, if you don't like it then stay out of trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 03/24/2008
- dax49 I'm a Fan of dax49 18 fans permalink

our so- called leaders can piss money off on trips and prayer breakfasts and yet feed americans, in prison or not, like prisoners in a gulag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/24/2008

Not to mention the trillions of missing money in the past years for black programs by the pentagon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 03/24/2008

What I have read here is some of the most rediculous and mind blowing crap I have ever heard. Humans are humans and should be treated as such. If they we're treated wih half ounce of dignity in the first place most wouldn't act like animals. Treatem like animals and animals is what you get. When will you morons get it you can't punish people into submission, just look at iraq. This is abohorant and yes a lot of poor folk are wrongly convicted just because of stupid ass idiots just like a lot of you that have no place in a jury room. I bet a lot of you call yourselves christians too. Shame on you. I'd love to take half of you make you spend a week in prison and see what you think than. The young get raped, beat up made to slave for other inmates. many are murdered and preyed upon . Many have done nothing more than use drugs or sell some or steal a car. Most crimes represented in prison are minor compared to what they have to endure so that prosecutors can feed the corporate prison system. I'm sickened by most the attitudes in here. But I know within year many of you will be begging for anything that resembles the shit they are getting fed when famines hit and you sheeple have no jobs and the ecomomy goes belly up. You will deserve it. God have mercy on you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 03/24/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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The problem is, Scooby, acting like animals is what got them there in the first place. We treat criminals better than we treat their victims. They have more rights, more benefits, more advocates. If prison were so bad, why do so many want to return? Contrast that with Sheriff Joe's tent prison. Almost no problems with behavior or repeat offending.

What would YOU consider humane treatment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 03/24/2008

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I believe that most didnt act like animals before they got there just some. our prisons are full of drug offenders and small time criminals that wouldnt be there had some of the folks that gave a shit about them in the first place. As I say to everyone, walk a mile in your borthers shoes before you judge them and its so easy to put hardship on people when you have no experience in it and to judge others unhuman when you have not been treated as such, like many youth coming up in the poor areas. If you put too many rats in a cage they will eventually turn to canabolize each ohter. The same is true of humans. Our jails and prisons are over crowded with people that are drug offenders and drugs should be treated as a social problem not a criminal one unless they are violent. Take away that portion of the prison system and you have a cage with room for human behavior. also give them work and reward them for good behavior with something more than a little time off and separate out the truly perversly violent and criminally insane from the lessor crimes instead of throwing them all in together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 03/24/2008
- XCITIZEN I'm a Fan of XCITIZEN 60 fans permalink
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I have often thought about how the suffering and hunger of so many people in the world could be addressed, and while it does not relate directly to this story, the term 'nutraloaf' reminds me again. Is there not some way that someone can engineer and manufacture a cake or loaf that contains soy protein and vegetable matter, fiber, essential fats, minerals and vitamins and whatever else is needed to sustain people and prevent starvation, and can't this be mass produced and distributed to starving people, and make it simple enough that it is not outrageously expensive to produce? I remember space food sticks in the 70s, which I realize were just a fad product, and I remember MREs, meals ready to eat, - what about something that can serve this purpose, but that can be carried in a pocket, simply wrapped, or distributed en massem as a block, cake, or other form? No, I'm not talking about Soylent Green. I mean, something that can actually address the nutritional crises that are suffered by millions here and elsewhere in the world.

Any geniuses out there who have any ideas?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 03/23/2008
- talidapali I'm a Fan of talidapali 3 fans permalink
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Well...someone came up with this idea...

http://www.projectpeanutbutter.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 03/24/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Honestly....it doesn't sound so bad to me.

It might get extremely boring after a while, but it sounds like something I'd like to utilize in a nutrition/weight loss program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 03/23/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 324 fans permalink
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Forgot:

Given the bulk produced, salt-laden, fatty, over processed food that they're used to, this is about 10 nutritional steps up.

All of the prisoners' mothers should all petition the court to let thing stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 03/23/2008
- dax49 I'm a Fan of dax49 18 fans permalink

i suggest you two good people eat it, three times a week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/24/2008

sorry, minor typo.

good behavior, not god behavior.

hahah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/23/2008

They throw feces and are punished with a complete diet. Seems like a good deal to me. Sure it tastes terrible, but having a more pleasing diet comes with god behavior. And its not like they're being starved or malnourished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/23/2008
- groot I'm a Fan of groot 2 fans permalink

soylent green is people, peeeeeeeeople!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 03/23/2008
- jsarets I'm a Fan of jsarets 164 fans permalink

I dunno, that doesn't sound that bad to me... Seems like an extremely economical yet nutritious casserole. I think it's more about the form-factor of the ingredients. Imagine eating a McDonald's double cheeseburger, fries, and side salad, pureed together and pressed into a loaf. How much worse than ordinary McDonald's could that possibly be?

I once made a vegetarian loaf concoction (full disclosure: I am not and will probably never be a vegetarian, although I do enjoy their food very much as long as I can still eat meat whenever I want) that was eerily similar: breadcrumbs, corn meal, beans, spinach, carrots, onions, garlic, cheeses, ketchup, herbs & spices. It was pretty damn good. I'd definitely rather eat that than what I'd imagine ordinary prison food tastes like (picturing worst Salisbury steak ever).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 03/23/2008
- peachfuzz I'm a Fan of peachfuzz 11 fans permalink
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Probably better than the processed crap most free people eat,

except the wheat--we should be using wheat for fuel not food.

There are better grains for nutrition than wheat. As far as it

being inhumane, I don't think so. You want a more fun diet,

then act right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 03/23/2008

right....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/23/2008

I'd feed some to Hillary, unless she drops out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 03/23/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 59 fans permalink

Hillary would mop the floor with you. She's got her butt on the line and you're 'bravely' anonymous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 03/23/2008

I completely agree with you RButler. Posting comments about hillary on Obama haven/HuffPo is the way to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 03/23/2008
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