Prison Calls It Food, Inmates Disagree

WILSON RING | March 23, 2008 05:01 AM EST | AP


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MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless raisins, beans, vegetable oil, tomato paste, powdered milk and dehydrated potato flakes.

Prison officials call it a complete meal. Inmates say it's so awful they'd rather go hungry.

On Monday, the Vermont Supreme Court will hear arguments in a class action suit brought by inmates who say it's not food but punishment and that anyone subjected to it should get a formal disciplinary process first.

Prison officials see nutraloaf as a tool for behavior modification.

"It's commonplace in other states as a way of providing nutrition in a mechanism that dissuades inmates from throwing feces, urine, trays and silverware," said Vermont Corrections Commissioner Rob Hofmann.

"It tends to have the desired outcome," Hofmann said. "Once the offender relents, we stop with the nutraloaf. That's our goal, to protect our staff and not have them subjected to behavior that the average Vermonter would find incomprehensible."

Seth Lipschutz, an attorney with Vermont's Prisoner's Rights office, says the state has a legitimate interest in changing the behavior of inmates who misbehave.

But he says a diet of nutraloaf is punishment, plain and simple. To call it anything else is "playing with words to get what they want. It's wrong and it's sad," Lipschutz said.

"If it's punishment, you've got to follow the rules," Lipschutz said. "Even in prison you get a little bit of due process."

Even Hofmann doesn't care for the taste of the stuff. "It reminded me of eating my vegetables and I'm not necessarily a big fan of vegetables," he said.

Nutraloaf and its equivalents have been used for decades in prisons across the country. In 1978, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a concoction used in Arkansas known as "'grue' might be tolerable for a few days and intolerably cruel for weeks or months."

A federal judge ruled in 1988 that the use of nutraloaf by the Michigan Department of Corrections was punishment.

Now, Michigan inmates are only given nutraloaf after going through the disciplinary process that lands them in segregation, department spokesman Russ Marlan said.

"It's done very infrequently, but it seems to accomplish its goal of preventing prisoners from using or abusing food or their containers in a way that could adversely affect our staff," Marlan said.

The National Prison Project of the American Civil Liberties Union gets occasional inmate complaints about nutraloaf, but the issue hasn't been involved in the group's litigation in years.

"Our position is that it shouldn't be used unless a violation has to do with food. It shouldn't be used as punishment," said the Prison Project's Public Policy Coordinator Jody Kent. "And even in those circumstances, they have to make sure it won't put at risk their health."

Vermont Assistant Attorney General Kurt Kuehl, who will argue the case for the Department of Corrections, said the use of nutraloaf isn't punishment.

Instead, Kuehl said, it's as if a correctional officer were to find an inmate with a knife. He wouldn't have to hold a hearing to take the knife away.

"It's taking an administrative action to protect the facility," said Kuehl.

Afterward, the inmate can be subject to a separate disciplinary hearing for the conduct that led to being fed nutraloaf.

Most Vermont inmates given nutraloaf have used their eating utensils to throw body waste. Nutraloaf, however, is served on a simple piece of paper, removing from the inmate's reach the utensils that can be used to store the waste before it is thrown.

Hofmann said Vermont prisons average about one nutraloaf episode a month.

Christopher Williams, 29, who is charged in a 2006 school shooting that killed two people in Essex, was given nutraloaf after he'd assaulted guards and smeared excrement in his cell.

Since then, his name hasn't appeared on the list of inmates given nutraloaf.

"His name was nowhere to be found," Hofmann said. "I presume it was effective."


 
 

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Inspired by this article, I looked up a recipe for Nutraloaf (http://www.wptz.com/news/15695883/detail.html) and served it at a dinner party tonight. It really wasn't bad! Add about a cup of water to the recipe, though. If prepared as written, it would be rather dry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 03/25/2008

Thinking.......typo....excuse me......it's early and I was up late firing off letters to my representatives in the political world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:30 AM on 03/24/2008

I was thining, "When did I write this article?.......but then I LQQked at the name of the author........I found my "twin" out here in this crazy, right is left, up is now down, North is South, etc., world. The gnashing of the teeth of the greater population......the horrible conficts around this Earth....the collapse of currency globally...sounds like Barry McGuire's song, "Eve of Destruction", written in 1965! For all you fellow peaceniks out there......it's a blast from the past we used to sing loudly! Wake up people! History is coming up fast in that rear view mirror of life!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 03/24/2008

Ah, I see the control freaks are alive and well.

Don't worry, chums, this year 1% of the American population incarcerated. Next year, it could be your turn. Oh ... I forgot ... yeah, you're the ones who say "If you don't do anything wrong, you've nothing to worry about.," right? Scanned your system lately to see if some child porn might have been d/l by a malware? Heh, ignorance of the law is no excuse ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 AM on 03/24/2008

Ummmm, if you don't like it then stay out of trouble.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 AM on 03/24/2008

our so- called leaders can piss money off on trips and prayer breakfasts and yet feed americans, in prison or not, like prisoners in a gulag.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/24/2008

Not to mention the trillions of missing money in the past years for black programs by the pentagon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:07 AM on 03/24/2008

What I have read here is some of the most rediculous and mind blowing crap I have ever heard. Humans are humans and should be treated as such. If they we're treated wih half ounce of dignity in the first place most wouldn't act like animals. Treatem like animals and animals is what you get. When will you morons get it you can't punish people into submission, just look at iraq. This is abohorant and yes a lot of poor folk are wrongly convicted just because of stupid ass idiots just like a lot of you that have no place in a jury room. I bet a lot of you call yourselves christians too. Shame on you. I'd love to take half of you make you spend a week in prison and see what you think than. The young get raped, beat up made to slave for other inmates. many are murdered and preyed upon . Many have done nothing more than use drugs or sell some or steal a car. Most crimes represented in prison are minor compared to what they have to endure so that prosecutors can feed the corporate prison system. I'm sickened by most the attitudes in here. But I know within year many of you will be begging for anything that resembles the shit they are getting fed when famines hit and you sheeple have no jobs and the ecomomy goes belly up. You will deserve it. God have mercy on you

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:52 AM on 03/24/2008

The problem is, Scooby, acting like animals is what got them there in the first place. We treat criminals better than we treat their victims. They have more rights, more benefits, more advocates. If prison were so bad, why do so many want to return? Contrast that with Sheriff Joe's tent prison. Almost no problems with behavior or repeat offending.

What would YOU consider humane treatment?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 03/24/2008

Do unto others as you would have them do unto you. I believe that most didnt act like animals before they got there just some. our prisons are full of drug offenders and small time criminals that wouldnt be there had some of the folks that gave a shit about them in the first place. As I say to everyone, walk a mile in your borthers shoes before you judge them and its so easy to put hardship on people when you have no experience in it and to judge others unhuman when you have not been treated as such, like many youth coming up in the poor areas. If you put too many rats in a cage they will eventually turn to canabolize each ohter. The same is true of humans. Our jails and prisons are over crowded with people that are drug offenders and drugs should be treated as a social problem not a criminal one unless they are violent. Take away that portion of the prison system and you have a cage with room for human behavior. also give them work and reward them for good behavior with something more than a little time off and separate out the truly perversly violent and criminally insane from the lessor crimes instead of throwing them all in together.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:32 AM on 03/24/2008

So you don't think people who break the law should be punished? I know several people who are in prison, as well as their families and victims. One in particular was taken for medical treatment by a guard who had the greatest reputation for decency among staff as well as inmates. Treated everyone like a human being. While in the clinic, he attacked the officer, wrestled his gun and shot him in the face and chest. Then hijacked a car and took hostages in a restaurant. After he was caught he said the shooting was an accident.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:40 PM on 03/24/2008

I have often thought about how the suffering and hunger of so many people in the world could be addressed, and while it does not relate directly to this story, the term 'nutraloaf' reminds me again. Is there not some way that someone can engineer and manufacture a cake or loaf that contains soy protein and vegetable matter, fiber, essential fats, minerals and vitamins and whatever else is needed to sustain people and prevent starvation, and can't this be mass produced and distributed to starving people, and make it simple enough that it is not outrageously expensive to produce? I remember space food sticks in the 70s, which I realize were just a fad product, and I remember MREs, meals ready to eat, - what about something that can serve this purpose, but that can be carried in a pocket, simply wrapped, or distributed en massem as a block, cake, or other form? No, I'm not talking about Soylent Green. I mean, something that can actually address the nutritional crises that are suffered by millions here and elsewhere in the world.

Any geniuses out there who have any ideas?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 PM on 03/23/2008

Well...someone came up with this idea...

http://www.projectpeanutbutter.org/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 03/24/2008

Honestly....it doesn't sound so bad to me.

It might get extremely boring after a while, but it sounds like something I'd like to utilize in a nutrition/weight loss program.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 PM on 03/23/2008

Forgot:

Given the bulk produced, salt-laden, fatty, over processed food that they're used to, this is about 10 nutritional steps up.

All of the prisoners' mothers should all petition the court to let thing stand.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:01 PM on 03/23/2008

i suggest you two good people eat it, three times a week.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/24/2008

ChiGuy & ChiGuy are the same person.
You'd probably say the same thing about tofu or a veggie burger.
Thise prioners probably would, too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:39 AM on 03/24/2008

sorry, minor typo.

good behavior, not god behavior.

hahah

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/23/2008

They throw feces and are punished with a complete diet. Seems like a good deal to me. Sure it tastes terrible, but having a more pleasing diet comes with god behavior. And its not like they're being starved or malnourished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/23/2008

soylent green is people, peeeeeeeeople!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 03/23/2008

I dunno, that doesn't sound that bad to me... Seems like an extremely economical yet nutritious casserole. I think it's more about the form-factor of the ingredients. Imagine eating a McDonald's double cheeseburger, fries, and side salad, pureed together and pressed into a loaf. How much worse than ordinary McDonald's could that possibly be?

I once made a vegetarian loaf concoction (full disclosure: I am not and will probably never be a vegetarian, although I do enjoy their food very much as long as I can still eat meat whenever I want) that was eerily similar: breadcrumbs, corn meal, beans, spinach, carrots, onions, garlic, cheeses, ketchup, herbs & spices. It was pretty damn good. I'd definitely rather eat that than what I'd imagine ordinary prison food tastes like (picturing worst Salisbury steak ever).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 03/23/2008

Probably better than the processed crap most free people eat,

except the wheat--we should be using wheat for fuel not food.

There are better grains for nutrition than wheat. As far as it

being inhumane, I don't think so. You want a more fun diet,

then act right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 PM on 03/23/2008

right....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/23/2008

I'd feed some to Hillary, unless she drops out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 03/23/2008

Hillary would mop the floor with you. She's got her butt on the line and you're 'bravely' anonymous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 PM on 03/23/2008

I completely agree with you RButler. Posting comments about hillary on Obama haven/HuffPo is the way to go.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 03/23/2008

We could all be eating it soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 03/23/2008

who gives a darn about cruel and unusual punishment...people who DON'T break the law get to eat all of the steaks they won't. keep your behind out of jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 03/23/2008

What's outrageous here is that I buy that same concoction at Whole Foods for $8.99 a pound.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/23/2008

3/24/08
1:49am
Alexandria, VA

Yeah. It sounds familiar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 03/24/2008

It's also the same stuff put in organic dog biscuits that I buy for my dog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/23/2008

Whats more outrageous is that the stuff you buy from Whole Foods isn't as fresh as you would think. Most of it was made a few days ago using ingredients from other departments that were not fit for sale. It's called the "cull" program. Take it from someone with seveal years management experience with WFM who left in disgust.

You have a public compnay that has to grow or die. They have not consistently made earnings like they used to several years ago. Every conventional store is cutting into their turf, and successfully so. They drive one of the highest margins of profit in the industry. You tell me where are the corners to cut?

The writing is on the wall, they are in trouble and internally they know it. They need a turnaround and need to get back to what made them great or they will collapse like a house of cards. Take care of yourself, support local mom and pop organic and natural foods stores, co-ops, and farmer's markets. You will save money and get a better product.

Many thanks for letting me get off subject.

Peace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 03/23/2008

Well - perhaps nut loaf is the secret weapon to keep people from repeating crimes and going back to prison - really - who cares what they feed prisoners as long as it keeps them alive.

I care far more about the adults and children going hungry in this country who have never committed crimes - first we feed those - then we feed prisoners with whatever is left over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 03/23/2008

I could not agree with you more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 03/23/2008

Also, how many working, tax paying people who never break the law have no health insurance and can't afford to go to a doctor or dentist even though their tax dollars are providing health and dental care for convicted felons in jails and prisons? And I'm supposed to care that they don't like the food?

I don't care if they don't like the loaf . If you are going to whine, don't do the crime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 03/23/2008

Eating is a necessity. Punishment which interferes with a necessity of life is cruel and unusual punishment. Let us think of another example. If you want to breath, you must breath a foul smelling air mixture. If you want to sleep you must do it on a concrete floor. If you want to be warm, you must wear irritating clothing. If you want to drink, it will be an undesirable, but healthy fluid you must drink. There are many other foods which do not require utensils, if the point is to take away forks and knives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 03/23/2008

Pleasure!?
Come on. No one is preventing them from masturbating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 03/23/2008

Oh come on. Measures which interfere with the PLEASURE from a necessity of life are not cruel and unusual punishment. Nowhere did I read in the article that nutloaf is unhealthy or unsafe to eat. Its not laced with some foul odor that makes it completely unpalatable. Its just boring and not good tasting. Sorry, that's not punishment; that's tofu!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 03/23/2008

I wonder. Does the same company who makes the similarly named and equally horrible tasting diet food have anything to do with this product?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/23/2008

I know some tree huggers who eat that stuff daily. They are the same people that that clothes from the North Face is proper business attire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/23/2008

they give it to people who throw urine and feeces on the people working there
they have a choices not to act out ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 03/23/2008