Prison Calls It Food, Inmates Disagree

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WILSON RING | March 23, 2008 05:01 AM EST | AP

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MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless raisins, beans, vegetable oil, tomato paste, powdered milk and dehydrated potato flakes.

Prison officials call it a complete meal. Inmates say it's so awful they'd rather go hungry.

On Monday, the Vermont Supreme Court will hear arguments in a class action suit brought by inmates who say it's not food but punishment and that anyone subjected to it should get a formal disciplinary process first.

Prison officials see nutraloaf as a tool for behavior modification.

"It's commonplace in other states as a way of providing nutrition in a mechanism that dissuades inmates from throwing feces, urine, trays and silverware," said Vermont Corrections Commissioner Rob Hofmann.

"It tends to have the desired outcome," Hofmann said. "Once the offender relents, we stop with the nutraloaf. That's our goal, to protect our staff and not have them subjected to behavior that the average Vermonter would find incomprehensible."

Seth Lipschutz, an attorney with Vermont's Prisoner's Rights office, says the state has a legitimate interest in changing the behavior of inmates who misbehave.

But he says a diet of nutraloaf is punishment, plain and simple. To call it anything else is "playing with words to get what they want. It's wrong and it's sad," Lipschutz said.

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"If it's punishment, you've got to follow the rules," Lipschutz said. "Even in prison you get a little bit of due process."

Even Hofmann doesn't care for the taste of the stuff. "It reminded me of eating my vegetables and I'm not necessarily a big fan of vegetables," he said.

Nutraloaf and its equivalents have been used for decades in prisons across the country. In 1978, the U.S. Supreme Court ruled that a concoction used in Arkansas known as "'grue' might be tolerable for a few days and intolerably cruel for weeks or months."

A federal judge ruled in 1988 that the use of nutraloaf by the Michigan Department of Corrections was punishment.

Now, Michigan inmates are only given nutraloaf after going through the disciplinary process that lands them in segregation, department spokesman Russ Marlan said.

"It's done very infrequently, but it seems to accomplish its goal of preventing prisoners from using or abusing food or their containers in a way that could adversely affect our staff," Marlan said.

The National Prison Project of the American Civil Liberties Union gets occasional inmate complaints about nutraloaf, but the issue hasn't been involved in the group's litigation in years.

"Our position is that it shouldn't be used unless a violation has to do with food. It shouldn't be used as punishment," said the Prison Project's Public Policy Coordinator Jody Kent. "And even in those circumstances, they have to make sure it won't put at risk their health."

Vermont Assistant Attorney General Kurt Kuehl, who will argue the case for the Department of Corrections, said the use of nutraloaf isn't punishment.

Instead, Kuehl said, it's as if a correctional officer were to find an inmate with a knife. He wouldn't have to hold a hearing to take the knife away.

"It's taking an administrative action to protect the facility," said Kuehl.

Afterward, the inmate can be subject to a separate disciplinary hearing for the conduct that led to being fed nutraloaf.

Most Vermont inmates given nutraloaf have used their eating utensils to throw body waste. Nutraloaf, however, is served on a simple piece of paper, removing from the inmate's reach the utensils that can be used to store the waste before it is thrown.

Hofmann said Vermont prisons average about one nutraloaf episode a month.

Christopher Williams, 29, who is charged in a 2006 school shooting that killed two people in Essex, was given nutraloaf after he'd assaulted guards and smeared excrement in his cell.

Since then, his name hasn't appeared on the list of inmates given nutraloaf.

"His name was nowhere to be found," Hofmann said. "I presume it was effective."

MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless ra...
MONTPELIER, Vt. — When shooting suspect Christopher Williams acted up in prison, he was given nutraloaf _ a mixture of cubed whole wheat bread, nondairy cheese, raw carrots, spinach, seedless ra...
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We could all be eating it soon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 03/23/2008

who gives a darn about cruel and unusual punishment...people who DON'T break the law get to eat all of the steaks they won't. keep your behind out of jail.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 03/23/2008
- MrWampler I'm a Fan of MrWampler 4 fans permalink

What's outrageous here is that I buy that same concoction at Whole Foods for $8.99 a pound.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/23/2008
- puffhost I'm a Fan of puffhost 11 fans permalink

Whats more outrageous is that the stuff you buy from Whole Foods isn't as fresh as you would think. Most of it was made a few days ago using ingredients from other departments that were not fit for sale. It's called the "cull" program. Take it from someone with seveal years management experience with WFM who left in disgust.

You have a public compnay that has to grow or die. They have not consistently made earnings like they used to several years ago. Every conventional store is cutting into their turf, and successfully so. They drive one of the highest margins of profit in the industry. You tell me where are the corners to cut?

The writing is on the wall, they are in trouble and internally they know it. They need a turnaround and need to get back to what made them great or they will collapse like a house of cards. Take care of yourself, support local mom and pop organic and natural foods stores, co-ops, and farmer's markets. You will save money and get a better product.

Many thanks for letting me get off subject.

Peace

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:30 PM on 03/23/2008
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It's also the same stuff put in organic dog biscuits that I buy for my dog.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/23/2008
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3/24/08
1:49am
Alexandria, VA

Yeah. It sounds familiar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:49 AM on 03/24/2008
- rh654 I'm a Fan of rh654 14 fans permalink

Well - perhaps nut loaf is the secret weapon to keep people from repeating crimes and going back to prison - really - who cares what they feed prisoners as long as it keeps them alive.

I care far more about the adults and children going hungry in this country who have never committed crimes - first we feed those - then we feed prisoners with whatever is left over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:38 PM on 03/23/2008
- gallstones I'm a Fan of gallstones 3 fans permalink

Also, how many working, tax paying people who never break the law have no health insurance and can't afford to go to a doctor or dentist even though their tax dollars are providing health and dental care for convicted felons in jails and prisons? And I'm supposed to care that they don't like the food?

I don't care if they don't like the loaf . If you are going to whine, don't do the crime.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:36 PM on 03/23/2008
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I could not agree with you more.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 03/23/2008

Eating is a necessity. Punishment which interferes with a necessity of life is cruel and unusual punishment. Let us think of another example. If you want to breath, you must breath a foul smelling air mixture. If you want to sleep you must do it on a concrete floor. If you want to be warm, you must wear irritating clothing. If you want to drink, it will be an undesirable, but healthy fluid you must drink. There are many other foods which do not require utensils, if the point is to take away forks and knives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 03/23/2008

Oh come on. Measures which interfere with the PLEASURE from a necessity of life are not cruel and unusual punishment. Nowhere did I read in the article that nutloaf is unhealthy or unsafe to eat. Its not laced with some foul odor that makes it completely unpalatable. Its just boring and not good tasting. Sorry, that's not punishment; that's tofu!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:41 PM on 03/23/2008
- gallstones I'm a Fan of gallstones 3 fans permalink

Pleasure!?
Come on. No one is preventing them from masturbating.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:50 PM on 03/23/2008
- pmag88 I'm a Fan of pmag88 12 fans permalink

I wonder. Does the same company who makes the similarly named and equally horrible tasting diet food have anything to do with this product?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:47 PM on 03/23/2008
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I know some tree huggers who eat that stuff daily. They are the same people that that clothes from the North Face is proper business attire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:40 PM on 03/23/2008
- JoshMiami I'm a Fan of JoshMiami 3 fans permalink

they give it to people who throw urine and feeces on the people working there
they have a choices not to act out ...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:28 PM on 03/23/2008

how else do you expect people to act when they're put in cages like animals?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 03/23/2008
- steamboat I'm a Fan of steamboat 45 fans permalink

What if these inmates violated YOUR mother or father or sister? Would you still feel sorry for them being locked-up?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 03/23/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 62 fans permalink

Like model prisoners. Ya see. When they were not in cages and out in society, they couldn't act appropriately. So, this is the consequence for that behavior which they knew of ahead of time.

Any more questions?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 03/23/2008
- gallstones I'm a Fan of gallstones 3 fans permalink

Those "people" in cages, are predators. They victimize others. They victimize the vulnerable. Those of us who do not break laws and who do not prey on our neighbors and family deserve to be protected from those that do.

So, if you don't want to spend a portion of your life living in a "cage", don't violate laws. Don't prey on your neighbors.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 03/23/2008

Duh, they are only in the cages if they acted out In jail. If they can't even behave in jain then they deserve to be treated like "animals".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 03/23/2008
- desmirl I'm a Fan of desmirl 9 fans permalink

Why nutraloaf? Because it's better than starving?

or not......

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:12 PM on 03/23/2008
- barriosbabe I'm a Fan of barriosbabe 243 fans permalink
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Actually, it looks tasty.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 03/23/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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Oh, those poor inmates. Having to eat food that's healthy. Let's do the liberal thing and pay them for the inconvenience, give them steak every night and satin sheets. We'll make their victims pay for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:07 PM on 03/23/2008

thats crap you vengance-obsessed Mormon clown. A lot of people that are in prison are INNOCENT--deal with it underwear boy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:50 PM on 03/23/2008
- WMDs I'm a Fan of WMDs permalink

If your a innocent victim in jail eating a nurtaloaf would probably be the least of your problems.

I so no problem with crimminals / repeat crimminals being diciplined and punished with this type of food.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 03/23/2008
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 246 fans permalink
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In an average prison population of 5000 there might be 1 or 2 innocent of the crime they were convicted of committing.

Work in the criminal justice system awhile Silent. They don't have time to arrest and convict innocent people. And it's hard as hell to get a jury to convict even the clearly guilty.

The one out of 5000 or 10,000 invariably makes it onto 60 minutes it's so incredibly rare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 PM on 03/23/2008
- RButler I'm a Fan of RButler 62 fans permalink

So, how do we tell them apart? Do the innocent ones throw feces or only the guilty ones?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 03/23/2008
- gallstones I'm a Fan of gallstones 3 fans permalink

Innocent *snark* or not, as long as they don't fling poo with their spoons, they won't have to eat the loaf.

Are you peripubescent or something?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 PM on 03/23/2008
- Mort I'm a Fan of Mort 38 fans permalink
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Why am I "vengance-obsessed" for being sarcastic about prison food? Innocent? Let's ask their victims about that! Oh, and most of us outgrew the need to tease people about their underwear after the second grade. But thanks for playing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 03/24/2008
- johnmorgan I'm a Fan of johnmorgan 17 fans permalink

It doesn't look especially healthy to me. The public has the responsibility to feed them properly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 03/23/2008
- Fair I'm a Fan of Fair 2 fans permalink

Wasn't this one of Linda McCartney's favorite recipes that she served on Thanksgiving?

I think this is a big vegetarian recipe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:55 PM on 03/23/2008
- JohnKemp I'm a Fan of JohnKemp 26 fans permalink

Actually, this same stuff is served in US public schools each & every day.

To combat obesity, or is it malnutrition, or, well whatever.

Most of it ends up being thrown away, anyway. While the kids use their own money to buy candy & ice cream.

Much to the dismay of our federally funded "nutritionists."

Damn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 03/23/2008
- sparkey I'm a Fan of sparkey 10 fans permalink
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Don't do the crime and you don't eat the loaf. What could be more simple? I say feed them the loaf and house them in tent cities like the ones in Arizona. Prison is suppose to be a harsh place that you don't want to go back to. It isn't suppose to be a place that's better than the one where you use to live.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:31 PM on 03/23/2008
- johnmorgan I'm a Fan of johnmorgan 17 fans permalink

Being in jail is the punishment. Constant humiliation is not supposed to be also the punishment, except according to some far right-wingers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 PM on 03/23/2008
- donchep I'm a Fan of donchep 6 fans permalink
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See this is where you are wrong. You confuse an unwillingness to coddle people in prison with being some kind of fascist. The story is about punishing prisoners who have been using utensils to throw their own excrment at the guards. Nutraloaf is not inhumane, it feeds them and is found to be healthy and nourishing. The problem is that it's bland and takes away one of life's greatest joys - FLAVOR.

Frankly, trying to equate this with some kind of gulag mentality is a stretch.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:42 AM on 03/24/2008
- rwe I'm a Fan of rwe 21 fans permalink

It would cost about $30.00 a serving at Spago...the majority here think the inmates should STFU... And if it were served at GITMO, Dick Durbin would compare it to Nazi fare

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:22 PM on 03/23/2008
- wadenelson1 I'm a Fan of wadenelson1 246 fans permalink
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They want to use their silverware to flick feces at the guards serving them dinner?

Fine. Give'em five days on water only, and if there are 10 prisoners, put 9 Nutrabars in the common area and then unlock the cell doors.

See how many think the taste has improved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 03/23/2008
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