McCain Benefits From Protracted Democratic Race

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First Posted: 03-24-08 06:08 PM   |   Updated: 04- 1-08 05:12 AM

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Despite assurances by Sens. Clinton and Obama that everything will come out rosy in November, Democrats are becoming more and more concerned that the protracted infighting is only benefiting Sen. McCain.

The New York Times points out that even the McCain camp is pretty pleased that a steep hill is flattening itself out for them:

Democratic operatives have prepared a sustained attack against what they call myths underlying Mr. McCain's reputation for straight talk. "It's going to take a while to tear that down," said Jim Jordan, a consultant who will lead a Democratic Party advertising campaign to aid its nominee. Lamenting the Clinton-Obama fight, Mr. Jordan added, "That's why it would be nice to get this over with as soon as possible."


For now, Mr. Obama faces continued fallout from the controversy over his former pastor, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. And Mrs. Clinton continues to fend off Mr. Obama's attacks on her integrity. If that has not made Mr. McCain the fall favorite, it has left him in a far better position than a month ago.

"Everything about the playing field still tilts against us," said Neil Newhouse, a Republican pollster. "But the slope is not as steep. As a Republican, things have started to look a little brighter."

The New Republic explores how McCain is able to reconcile with his conservative base in private, while swing voters are exposed every night to the latest dirty laundry from the Democratic senators:

The problem is that each day Clinton and Obama spend consumed with the other is a day that moves John McCain closer to the White House. McCain's biggest asset is his political brand, which evokes a straight-talking, party-bucking reformer. Among his biggest liabilities is the suspicion he inspires among conservatives thanks to these same attributes. McCain apparently plans to spend the next few months making nice with his base. But anything he accomplishes on this front clearly diminishes his swing-voter appeal and, therefore, his chances in November.


Ideally, the Democrats would be exploiting this tension like mad. They would highlight the anti-Catholic, anti-gay ravings of John Hagee, the evangelical minister whose endorsement McCain recently accepted. They would ridicule his chumminess with supply-side Neanderthals like Jack Kemp and his flip-flop on the Bush tax cuts. They'd dwell on McCain's less-noticed association with crony-capitalists during his tenure as Commerce Committee chairman.

Instead, something close to the opposite is happening. McCain's courtship of the lunatic right and his ties to K Street have largely been hidden from view, while the Democrats' dirty laundry has been aired for swing voters. The upshot for Democrats has not been good. In late February, a Gallup poll showed Obama leading McCain among independents by 15 points. By March 6, a Newsweek poll put McCain up ten points among this group--and that was before Jeremiah Wright weighed in. Hillary went from down five to down 15 among independents during the same time.

Chris Bowers laments that the Democratic campaign has turned into a unprovable discussion of which candidate is more electable:

Barring something shocking, like the Michigan delegation being seated as is, the delegate math is clearly laid out before us, and Obama will slowly slog toward clinching the nomination sometime between May 20th and June 21st. For now, unfortunately, we are stuck in a holding pattern of an endless electability argument. I don't think that this sort of campaign will carry with it the benefit of the first two months of the year, where an intense, high-profile Democratic nomination campaign was largely helpful to the party. That is demonstrable by McCain taking the lead in general election matchups over the past two weeks. Without any voting to maintain interest between Mississippi and Pennsylvania, the void has been filled with electability and race (with the latter really being about electability). That is not the kind of discussion that Democrats need to win, because when Democrats talk about electability, no one believes what Democrats say.
Despite assurances by Sens. Clinton and Obama that everything will come out rosy in November, Democrats are becoming more and more concerned that the protracted infighting is only benefiting Sen. McCa...
Despite assurances by Sens. Clinton and Obama that everything will come out rosy in November, Democrats are becoming more and more concerned that the protracted infighting is only benefiting Sen. McCa...
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We Dems are very creative and we may yet find a way to lose election in November, but after eight years of Bush and Co. it's not likely McCain will be the next White House occupant. Most people really believe a Dem will win the Presidency in the fall. As a result, the primaries are being taken more seriously than I've seen in my lifetime. That is why this Primary is so protracted, why nerves are so exposed, why primary voter turnout is setting records.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 03/24/2008

If it were John Edwards or Bill Richardson trailing Obama in delegate count, states won, and popular vote, and not Hillary, would we be having this discussion? Of course not. It would be assumed that Edwards/Richardson/whomever would simply step aside. But with Hillary there seems to be this entitlement issue at work. Sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/24/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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If the Dems don't like this they should fix the problem

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 03/24/2008
- seanosul I'm a Fan of seanosul 3 fans permalink

If Hillary is such a great Leader, she should defend Obama on Pastor Wright, not sit silently hoping to gain from his demise. It is just as much her duty to attack the reasons behind the playing of those remarks as it is the duty of Obama and any progressive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 03/24/2008

true, but as you said "if" hillary is such a great leader. she is not

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 03/24/2008
- AurigaRa I'm a Fan of AurigaRa 27 fans permalink

AMEN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 PM on 03/24/2008

You have got to be kidding. Obama and his crowd of creeps is bring up Monica now. Talk about low lives-brining up the woman Hillary's husband cheated on her with to shame Hillary. You people are the lowest of the low.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 03/24/2008

Grow up....the republicans are going to bring up the whole nine yards, including the purjury and the impeachment. Why do you think they are doing everything they can to get to the Clinton's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 PM on 03/24/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Right,...cause having her Surrogates not only say dirty things, but MAKE THE TALK SHOW ROUNDS REPEATING THEM is really upstanding....a: Obama is affirmative action and b: Richardson is Judas (making Hillary Jesus? LOOLOLOL) My understanding is the person who made the monica comment wasnt on the team (I could be wrong) like these two were, and hes certainly NOT making talk show rounds spreading it and refusing to apologize.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:44 AM on 03/25/2008
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Why is it that when an Obama supporter makes a comment that somehow Obama feels the same way? Obama did not bring up Monica... someone who supports him did. There is a difference you know... I mean you do realize that right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:28 AM on 03/25/2008

right, the lowest of the low. you sound ridiculous.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 03/25/2008
- bodi1313 I'm a Fan of bodi1313 2 fans permalink

Obama's racist preacher is not Hillary's problem.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 03/24/2008
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Obama's preacher shouldn't be Obama's problem as Obama has beliefs and thoughts that differ. Contrary to popular belief... blacks do not share one brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 AM on 03/25/2008
- Lisette I'm a Fan of Lisette 39 fans permalink
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Don't blame this on Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 03/24/2008

blame it on rio

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/24/2008

As an Ind I voted for obama. This was after both Obama and Hillary campaigned for my vote. I made my decision based on facts, based on their abilities (Not huff or perceptions). I voted for who after all is said and done, would LEAD the country. No presidental candidate will ever be what we want . No candidate will be flawless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:44 PM on 03/24/2008
- kravitz I'm a Fan of kravitz 2 fans permalink

Why we should fear a McCain presidency

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:42 PM on 03/24/2008
- billrott I'm a Fan of billrott 9 fans permalink

Simply look at the issues. Besides the war, there is Healthcare. McCain's plan calls for taxing of healthcare benefits. Everyone that has seen the plan has said that such a move will cause employers to stop offering healthcare. McCain's response is he will offer tax rebates for healthcare which are less than the tax on the original employer donations. Everyone believes this will cause the ranks of the uninsured to increase. As for bringing down the cost of healthcare, there is nothing in his plan. Yeah, the likelihood of this plan getting passed is low, but it shows the mentality and judgment that McCain brings to office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:18 AM on 03/25/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

As soon as Clinton started the "kitchen sink strategy", McCain started gaining at the polls. Her tactics are beyond any kind of logic. I have to assume that her brain isn't working correctly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:41 PM on 03/24/2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 03/24/2008

hillarys problem is the kitchen sink has progressed to the garbage disposal

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/24/2008
- ecotopian I'm a Fan of ecotopian 15 fans permalink
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I like that analogy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 03/24/2008

As soon as Obama's people started using republican talking points on HIllary-Mccain started gaining in the polls. I have to assume that Obama doesnt care if democrats lose if he cant win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/24/2008

Oh hopeforchange, you big silly. Gazing deeply in the mirror, and thinking it's a window.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/25/2008
- billrott I'm a Fan of billrott 9 fans permalink

I think you mean to remove Obama's name and insert Clintons name in your post. Otherwise it does not make sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:19 AM on 03/25/2008

Obama Expands 'Be A Democrat For A Day'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 03/24/2008

Superdelegates have the power to end this...now! The 50 or so who were supposed to come out for Obama a couple of weeks ago (until Clinton begged them to stay pat) can come out and make a statement. They can make whatever happens in Pennsylvania irrelevant. If they don't, she'll probably win PENN big, once again giving her false hope to keep her chances alive.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/24/2008

Is Obama the Frankenstein Of Carl Rove?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 03/24/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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No. He's the real deal, a Democrat. The last one in the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:26 PM on 03/24/2008

Why must it all be about race? :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/24/2008

Unfortunately, I have to agree that this contest, between these two contestants is tearing at the fabric of the party. To be honest, I was an early Hillary supporter until Bill opened his mouth in South Carolina. Bill may not want to own up to his comments, but as an African-American I will. Bill stepped on it and his wife unfortunately is suffering for it. Had Bill not made those comments she would be walking away with this primary. Instead we all get bogged down in the sitcom called the Clinton's. Now she is dodging bullets in Bosnia. Please! Maybe if they had joined the military instead of denouncing it, they would have a few real war stories to share instead of making them up. Everyone wants to be a hero. The First Lady coming under sniper fire would have been front page news around the world. FYI, I am a military vet.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/24/2008

Are you on crack?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 AM on 03/25/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 55 fans permalink

Hillary's campaign makes it perfectly clear that if she can't be president in 2009 then she prefers to see McCain win. She's presuming a one year term for him that leaves the door open for her to run again. However, if Obama wins, he's got two terms and that rules her out as ever being president. She doesn't give a hoot about the country, or about the Democratic party. All she cares about is her own soaring ego. She will never quit this nomination race until the party drags her kicking and screaming off the stage. She will destroy the Democratic party and she will sell out the country to the GOP just to curry her ugly ego. These Clintons are beyond belief.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:08 PM on 03/24/2008
- estreya I'm a Fan of estreya 7 fans permalink

But the party is letting her do this. Which is why i will think nothing of voting third party if Clinton's on the ballot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/24/2008

heck i'm an independent, i have voted independent once and democrat 3 times but i will not vote for hillary. but my post is moot. obama wins the nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 03/24/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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I am the party and I am not letting her do this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 03/24/2008
- presto I'm a Fan of presto 18 fans permalink

Riverhouse: Amazing how you can get inside everyone's head like that. And then use yourself as your source.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/24/2008

who will be president in 2008 then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 03/24/2008
- Marichu I'm a Fan of Marichu 16 fans permalink
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The lack of emotional maturity and common sense by the Obama and Clinton camps is appalling. It does not require an Einstein to comprehend that all the personal attacks and barbs thrown at each other will later be used, to a much more deathly accuracy, by the Republicans. Both camps must cease and desist such acrimonious squabbles. Clinton and Obama must set the standards by meeting with all those individuals that are connected with their campaign, firmly laying out the rules regarding such behavior and what won’t be tolerated. Only they can put a stop to all the excrement being flung around.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:05 PM on 03/24/2008

Obama did not resort to the kind of tactics being used by his surrogates until Clinton began throwing "the kitchen sink" at him. He had no choice at that point but to throw the same thing back. Despite the increased rhetoric of late, he has still managed not to maintain a higher level of integrity in this campaign. He has never said that McCain was more qualified than she, he has never said that the states she's won did not count, and he's never called her supporters delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 03/24/2008
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I totally concur, Marichu, and for myself, as an example I will hereby cease and desist any and all contributions to the conflict and will direct ALL of my comments here to the end of helping to defeat John McCain. I will no longer stoke the fires of party divisiveness nor provide fodder for RepubliCONS' to use against the Democratic candidate in the general election campaign. I'm calling on all Dems and Independents who support Hillary or Obama to join me in a moratorium against the cable news networks gleeful plot to keep us all at each others' throats for so long that John McBush wins merely by default. I am an Obama supporter, but from now on I will resist any inclination to disparage Mrs. Clinton nor will I encourage it in others. I will just accept whatever happens in the course of the remainder of this primary campaign and I will tune out any attempts to embroil me in the medias' manipulative machinations. If Hillary wins the nomination I will gladly throw all my support behind her. I do this willingly because just the mere thought of a John McBush presidency makes my blood run cold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 PM on 03/24/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 88 fans permalink
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Laughable.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 PM on 03/24/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 88 fans permalink
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"Mr. McCain the fall favorite" ???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:58 PM on 03/24/2008

indubitably

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:00 PM on 03/24/2008
- indie17 I'm a Fan of indie17 9 fans permalink

McMummy is such an easy target, though, it won't take long to bring him down. 'Bomb, bomb, Iran' will not go anywhere. It will be popcorn time for all of us independents to watch the ignorant, neocon Republicans lose so badly in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 03/24/2008
- bodi1313 I'm a Fan of bodi1313 2 fans permalink

Yeah Marlyn, he is the favorite. As a Democrat, I will be casting my vote to help Obama lose. I don't care if John McCain is elected and ensures another 100 years of war. I will gladly accept that, anything to shut up Obama and his supporters.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 PM on 03/24/2008

Good call.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:53 PM on 03/24/2008

Good call. Vote to ensure 100 years of unjust war in order to spite people you've never met, but have decided you don't like. Lemme guess: White woman. Over fifty. Limited education.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 03/24/2008

bodi1313. you certainly seem mature. how about you shutting up and getting real over her chances to win anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:01 AM on 03/25/2008

Wow, what a great Democrat. Someone give the guy a ribbon. Or better yet, volunteer to spend part of that 100 years in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 03/25/2008
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