McCain Says US Succeeding in Iraq

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LIZ SIDOTI | March 25, 2008 01:03 AM EST | AP

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Republican presidential candidate, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., speaks during a town hall meeting Monday, March 24, 2008, in Chula Vista, Calif. (AP Photo/Mary Altaffer)

CHULA VISTA, Calif. — Fresh off his eighth Iraq visit, Sen. John McCain declared Monday that "we are succeeding" and said he wouldn't change course _ even as the U.S. death toll rose to 4,000 and the war entered its sixth year.

To underscore his view of the stakes in Iraq, the certain Republican presidential nominee twice referenced a recent audio tape from Osama bin Laden in which the al-Qaida leader urged followers to join the al-Qaida fight in Iraq and called the country "the greatest opportunity and the biggest task."

"For the first time, I have seen Osama bin Laden and General (David) Petraeus in agreement, and, that is, a central battleground in the battle against al-Qaida is in Iraq today. And that's what bin Laden was saying and that's what General Petraeus is saying and that's what I'm saying, my friends," McCain said.

"And my Democrat opponents who want to pull out of Iraq refuse to understand what's being said and what's happening _ and that is the central battleground is Iraq in this struggle against radical Islamic extremism," he added. McCain also said Democratic rivals Barack Obama and Hillary Rodham Clinton were naive and "dead wrong" to want to withdraw troops.

"We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says. I've seen the facts on the ground," the Arizona senator insisted a day after a roadside bomb in Baghdad killed four U.S. soldiers and rockets pounded the U.S.-protected Green Zone there, and a wave of attacks left at least 61 Iraqis dead nationwide. The events transpired as bin Laden called on the people of Syria, Lebanon, Jordan and Saudi Arabia to "help in support of their mujahedeen brothers in Iraq, which is the greatest opportunity and the biggest task."

Despite all that, McCain told reporters: "I don't think I would change the strategy now unless General Petraeus recommended it. I think he's trusted by the American people, the president and by me. And General Petraeus again showed me facts on the ground where the surge is succeeding."

Democrats took issue with his remarks and cast his candidacy as a repeat of President Bush's tenure.

"As Americans mark another somber milestone in the war in Iraq, John McCain continues his pattern of parroting the Bush administration's misleading rhetoric on the war," Democratic Party spokeswoman Karen Finney said in a statement.

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In the midst of a western fundraising swing after a week abroad, including visits to Iraq, the Middle East and Europe, the Arizona senator didn't mention the grim casualty milestone or the last weeks fifth anniversary of the conflict as he spoke to veterans and others at a stuffy Veterans of Foreign Wars building during a town-hall style campaign event outside of San Diego.

"I've commented on hundreds of occasions of the sacrifice the great and brave young Americans have made in Iraq and elsewhere in the world in the struggle against radical Islamic extremism," McCain told reporters afterward. He said a bracelet he always wears with the name of Matthew Stanley, who was killed in Iraq, is a symbol not just of his sacrifice but also of Stanley's 4,000 fallen comrades.

"My thoughts and my prayers go out to those families every day," McCain added.

Also left unsaid during the event was the fact that 2007 was the war's deadliest year with 901 American troop deaths. That was when Bush took McCain's advice and sent thousands more U.S. troops to Iraq to quell violence in Baghdad. McCain long had called for such a strategy shift, and he effectively linked his presidential candidacy to the war last year even as public support for it plummeted.

"I'm not painting to you the most rosy scenario but I am telling you, compared to a year ago, before we started this surge, and with this great general, one of the great generals in American history, General David Petraeus, that we are succeeding in Iraq," McCain told his audience.

Asked later if he was offering the war-weary public any different path forward in Iraq than Bush, McCain reached back to the past.

"I'm offering them the record of having objected strenuously to a failed strategy for nearly four years. That I argued against and fought against and said that the secretary of defense of my own party, and my own president, I had no confidence in. That's how far I went in advocating the new strategy that is succeeding," McCain told reporters.

CHULA VISTA, Calif. — Fresh off his eighth Iraq visit, Sen. John McCain declared Monday that "we are succeeding" and said he wouldn't change course _ even as the U.S. death toll rose to 4,000 an...
CHULA VISTA, Calif. — Fresh off his eighth Iraq visit, Sen. John McCain declared Monday that "we are succeeding" and said he wouldn't change course _ even as the U.S. death toll rose to 4,000 an...
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- batgirlevi I'm a Fan of batgirlevi 9 fans permalink

Ok. Then you were a great pilot and excellent student and I don't care what anybody else says!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 03/25/2008
- meneghin I'm a Fan of meneghin 4 fans permalink

"We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says". That's exactly what a dictator would say.
What more do we need to figure out what kind of president he would be? Another George Bush if not worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 03/25/2008
- Irons I'm a Fan of Irons 2 fans permalink

All we need is another delusional leader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 03/25/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 54 fans permalink

What is so sick about all of this with "myfriends, stand up with me" McCain is that the MSM is almost genuflecting to this man. Now they want to manipulate McCain into the whitehouse. Be very leery, but be very vocal...de­mand that the MSM start telling the truth. Put Jeremiah and Obama to rest for a few days and concentrate on this "never change course" has been, McCain. My gosh, people..wa­ke up.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 03/25/2008

We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says
We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says
We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says
We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says
We're succeeding. I don't care what anybody says

There. Now does everybody believe him?
Watch the pretty gold watch.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 03/25/2008
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"We're succdeeding, I don't care what anyone says." famous last words of George Armstrong Custer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 03/25/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

37 percent of Hillary supporters will not vote for Obama if he gets the nom and 27 percent of Obama supporters will not vote for Hillary if she gets the nomination according to latest polls. Thank you supporters of Obama and your always kind words about Hillary. And for John McCain for that matter.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 03/25/2008
- CarlsV I'm a Fan of CarlsV 12 fans permalink

Do you wear a helmet?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 03/25/2008
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Not to worry about all that, Senator John McShame has plenty of his own issues (faults really) that the voters find repugnant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/25/2008

link? omaniacs just don't get it. the man has nothing, nothing, like GWB

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 03/25/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 21 fans permalink

I have a feeling whoever the Dem nominee is - Dems will vote for that person. If not then we are a self destructive lot aren't we!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/25/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 17 fans permalink

So it looks like McCain wants to be a decider too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 03/25/2008
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Meet John McCain, the man who promises another 100 years of this fiasco of war. There is the republican commitment to the unborn in the 21st century: Not a future of health, peace and prosperity, but of fear, war and senseless death. Mission Accomplished!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:10 PM on 03/25/2008
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So?

It's important not to get bogged down in what profiteering warmongerers' definition of success is.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:08 PM on 03/25/2008
- savertime I'm a Fan of savertime 4 fans permalink

It is sad when politicians really believe their own spin. The surge is working. The surge is working.
The decrease in violence had more to do with the Iraqis than with the increase in U.S. troops. Homegrown sunni militia being paid not to fight as Al Qaeda in Iraq and Al Sadr's cease fire/stand order to the shia militia. brought about the lull pockets of peace. Now that the cease fire is fractured, and the Bush administration is reneging on its promise to withdraw the surge troops, the increase in violence will be noticable.

It was scary the way the MSM was only allowed to repeat "the surge is working; and it seems that the surge is working," while anyone with internet access knew the real causes for the decrease in violence As soon as Patraeus announced that the troops should stay (or may the payments stopped) Al Sadr gets riled.

How many times must the generals say "there can be no military win in Iraq" before this sad, old man hear it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 03/25/2008
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The fundamental purpose of "The Surge" (To allow Iraqis to form a unity government) has failed. Thus John McCain is lying and that is a fact.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 03/25/2008

"Full Metal Jacket" Hillary, veteran of the war in Bosnia, and "Dear Hunter" Bill, of very active duty fame, back again as "co-presidents?"

No thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 03/25/2008

Hillary and Bill never started a war either. Under Clinton, we had 8 years of peace and prosperity. Our action in Bosnia was as a NATO peacekeeping force. We lost one American life, and two wounded. In Somalia we lost 18, and had 24 wounded.

Bush = 4000 dead Americans, scores of thousands of dead Iraqis, and 30,000 wounded, many maimed for life. Plus about 2 million Iraqi refugees.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 03/26/2008

The Republican Party is in it's last stages of political decay. And like the melting ice caps that they deny are due to global warming, the end will come faster then anyone could possibly imagine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 03/25/2008
- springsm I'm a Fan of springsm 54 fans permalink

Don't count on it...dang it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 03/25/2008
- johnmorgan I'm a Fan of johnmorgan 16 fans permalink

I remember when the media were saying the Republican party would die after the Watergate scandal. It took only a few years for Reagan to come along, that master of PR, who reformulated the Republican image. The red states bought the snake oil, and here we are today.

Remember, even if the Republican party fails, the rich are still rich, and still own the media. They'll likely find some way to get what they want, while fooling gullible hillbillies once again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 03/25/2008

just what we need; another redneck in the Oval Office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 03/25/2008
- piquet I'm a Fan of piquet 14 fans permalink
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..I just took a trip across I-10 through Alabama and Mississippi to New Orleans. There is nothing more vile than the confederate flag and the Rednecks that wear it like a badge of honor. Honor for what? The Civil war that killed AMERICANS because their need to enslave human beings? I'm not talking about southern folk, crackers or farmers. It's the Redneck that has NO place in civilized society.
That flag to me is no greater than the NAZI swastika. When I see that 20 foot flag flying over a commercial business it makes me sick to my stomach.
Redneck = KKK dumbass too stupid too lead such a great nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 03/25/2008

Did Sen. McCain really quote Osama bin Laden to reinforce his opinion? That's his credibility?

Put another way, it appears that Sen. McCain is in agreement with giving Osama bin Laden what he wants: an endless holy war/ jihad/ death struggle. The US took the bait, and Sen. McCain would keep us on the hook.

A radical religious war is i-n-s-a-n-e, no matter which denomination -- Islam, Christianity, Judaism etc. etc. Fighting to the death, and sending others to do so, in the name of "my G-d is better than your G-d", is barbarism.

Killing people so they can live? -- i.e., "bringing democracy to the Iraqis": another example of the absurdist-speak as described in George Orwell's "1984".

May G-d Bless America. May more of us awaken to the brutal manipulation of religious dogma. May our human immune response fight back this infection of fear. May we remember that our true calling is to love each other. May we have the courage to learn how to live peacefully -- not passively. Living in peace is an active, vigilant, very difficult process. The easy, cowardly way is to lash out, as our so-called leaders have done. More and more of us are waking up to that, every day. Sen. McCain, I say this with the best of intentions, I wish you well on your retirement.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 03/25/2008
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