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Obama Camp Mocks Clinton: Next She\'ll Want NCAA Bracket To Decide Race

Obama Camp Mocks Clinton: Next She'll Want NCAA Bracket To Decide Race

March 25, 2008 12:03 PM


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The Obama campaign again accused Hillary Clinton of moving the political goal posts in her efforts to claim a legitimate shot of winning the nomination, this time suggesting (tongue-in-cheek) that college basketball could be used to pick the Democratic candidate.

"At some point we will get their NCAA bracket and it will be determined that whoever picked the most number of winning teams will get the nomination," said Obama's communications director Robert Gibbs.

Gibbs was speaking to reporters on a conference call on Tuesday. He declined to answer a direct question as to whether or not Clinton should -- with dwindling chances of winning -- drop out of the race, saying that Obama would never instruct his competitor on how to handle her nomination. But he did note, with a sense of playful analysis, that as Clinton continued to trail Obama in pledged delegates, states won, and popular vote, her campaign has changed the barometer of success.

This past week, Sen. Evan Bayh, a Clinton surrogate from Indiana, suggested that superdelegates should look at how each candidate would fair in electoral college votes in determining who should be the nominee. Such a system, the Clinton campaign said, had validity. Critics charge that state primary elections show little about how candidates would perform in a general election.


 
 

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Obama has posted his NCAA tourney picks on his website. Hillary, on the other hand, is still withholding hers from the public! What does she have to hide? Hillary, this is about transparency, show us your bracket!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 PM on 03/26/2008

it takes electoral college votes to win the Presidency, delegates to win the nomination. Hello Sen. Bayh the delegates are the substitute for the electoral college.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:55 PM on 03/26/2008

I wish Hilary would have the guts to cme out and say what she wants to say. Obama is Unelectable because he is AA I stand a better chance because I'm white. Thats what she wants to say so have the guts to SAY IT. But she cant cause that will make her and some of her surrogates Hypocrite since they say that women have it harder than African American. I suspect if things still look bleak for her she will have no choice but the finally play this card. He is NOT electable period cause he is Black.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 03/26/2008

Wake Up Call, and it's now.

What most need to know while looking at what candidate will do those most for our nation.

Not this mindless crap I see posted on here. This is about our nation's well being. Economic, war, jobs and war.

Some of what I see posted here is silly grade school crap. If you have paid attention to the History of past campaigning, you would not take some of this so personal.

Passion is great, but you need to use your heads. Do some real research, and forget about all the crap.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 03/26/2008

"how each candidate would FARE in electoral college votes"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:10 PM on 03/26/2008

just sounds to me that everyone on this board is guaranteeing a McCain victory in November. Obama supporters hate Hillary, and Hillary supporters hate Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/26/2008

It's particularly silly for Clinton's campaign to suggest looking at electoral votes because that's exactly what the Democrat's proportional allocation scheme tried to avoid! If the Democrats used a winner-take-all approach to state primaries, as the Republicans do in some states, that would track the electoral college. So by urging this, Clinton is arguing that Democrats should reverse a fundamental principle of their primary system. Some gall!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:59 AM on 03/26/2008

does anyone remembers he said he is going to run with a different style of politics and stay positive ?
does anyone remember that obama said he is going to bring people together ?

I am officially deciding to be in the Anti Obama camp
I will slice my wrists and vote for maccain before voting for him

and i think i am not the only past obama supporter who will do that

as high as the expectations he built the big is the fall of disapointment that i feel about this guy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 03/25/2008

Please slit your wrists and count to 100 before you vote then. Thanks for your support.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 AM on 03/26/2008

So you're going to slit your wrists and the try and vote for McCain...with slit wrists? Yep. Seems about the level of logic I'd expect from either a.) a Hillary supporter of b.) Rethug trying to pretend to be a genuine Hillary supporter. Either work.

Riiiiggghhht, you're a past Obama supporter. And btw? Did Obama say this? And his campaign daring to gasp! make a funny at Hillary's continued and truly laughable, but real moving of the goal posts means that he's not running a different type of campaign!!1!1!

Hey, at least if you slit your wrists and then try and vote for McCain, at least the blood on your hands for wouldn't be just figurative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 PM on 03/25/2008

Not for nothing, as you seem quite passionate about this... but don't you think maybe your ego is a little bit too in control of your thoughts here? Seriously; slice your wrists? In addition to voting for McCain? Over some light hearted comments in response to the ever changing, Clinton determined playing field?

This is lunacy. I'm thinking you'll come around in the next 7 months, or that you've always intended to vote Republican. Either way, Hillary is not likely to be an option come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/25/2008

Give me a break. You have never written a single comment on this site that in any way supported Senator Obama. In fact, by saying that you would vote for McCain - who intends to continue the Bush policies if elected - you are not even asserting yourself as a Democrat. Nobody really cares who you vote for but you, but don't try and pretend you were ever pro-Obama or that you are a Democrat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 PM on 03/25/2008

Is this a divisive and negative comment from the Obama camp? I am shocked and awed. I thought they were ABOVE THE FRAY!. HA HA .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 03/25/2008

We'll take what ever we can get a win's a win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 03/25/2008


This article proposes more potential bizarre spinning from Clinton. I've noted on other occasions, Hillary started out extolling her 20 years of experience, then it became 35 years of experience, and lately, it's been a lifetime of experience. Watch out for her to start talking about her past lives as Julius Cesar, Catherine the Great, and possibly even JFK, among others. She claims she has already channeled Eleanor Roosevelt. What's next? Inventing the internet is already taken...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/25/2008

Didn't you hear? James Carville declared her Jesus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 PM on 03/25/2008

Yeah I heard Jesus is on her side and everyone else is a sacreligious sheep following Bill Richardson. Do your godly duty and vote Hillary....... Wow, America needs more of that huh?

PLEASE watch videos of Obama on all kinds of issues:
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_list?p=900C5EDCAF3C292A

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:38 AM on 03/26/2008

LET'S SAY THIS WAS A BASKETBALL GAME HILLARY THINKS BY ONLY WINNING THE FIRST AND FORTH QUARTER SHE SHOULD BE DECLARED THE WINNER OF THE GAME EVEN THOUGH THE OTHER TEAM SCORED THE MOST POINTS. WE UNDERSTAND THAT THE FORTH QUARTER IS IMPORTANT BUT COME ON HILLARY. OK. THE SCORE DOESN'T COUNT THE OTHER TEAM HAD MORE FOULS THAN US. THEY DON'T LOOK LIKE WINNERS WE DO. WHAT IN THE HELL IS GOIING ON HERE. I THINK IF THE CLINTONS DON'T GET IN THE WHITE HOUSE THEY ARE GOING TO GO CRAZY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:04 PM on 03/25/2008

Dont forget she wants a couple free throws after the buzzer (Michigan and Florida).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:40 AM on 03/26/2008

The whole Clinton desparation is such a joke. What we all need to do is sit back and watch the further meltdown of a once viable candidate. So with this in mind take a four minute break and watch true masters of comedy. Check out this link to the Monty Python excerpt from the Holy Grail starring Hillary as the Black Knight

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2eMkth8FWno

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:41 PM on 03/25/2008

I heard that she was requesting that her pastor bring a mirror Divining Rod to the convention in August, where the rod which has been trained to point in only one direction will make its appearance as the magic question is raised: Mirror, mirror on the wall, who's the most divisive candidate of all?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/25/2008

Rev. William Procanick - Hillary Clinton's former pastor - "A jury found Procanick guilty Jan. 22 of first-degree sexual abuse and endangering the welfare of a child"....a 7-year-old girl!!! Now that Hillary has opened the door on pastors...let's see how she can compare this perverted old man to Rev. Jeremiah Wright!!! At least Rev. Wright isn't a child molester!!! You want to compare skeletons in your closet...there's more of this to come!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:40 PM on 03/25/2008

Sorry, but that is false. Every article about this story uses "Clinton pastor", as a reference to the city of Clinton, New York -- not Hillary Clinton. Please don't propagate this false rumor. Really, there is already plenty enough out there about Hillary that is actually true. ;)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 PM on 03/25/2008

No no no... that's Clinton NY. It has nothing to do with HRC.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 PM on 03/25/2008

The Clinton campaign seems to have an endless amount of excuses as to why she should be the nominee....will someone please tap her on the shoulder and tell her to take her ball and go home....cause, the games over and she's lost already!!!! She just doesn't know it yet.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:32 PM on 03/25/2008

It seems he's not only the People's Choice but the Truthfulone Choice too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:30 PM on 03/25/2008

Obama Supporters, former schoolyard bullies?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:37 PM on 03/25/2008

Yea, pointing out the truth like that was really uncalled for. How dare they. Heaven forbid someone have a sense of humour about her constant monkeying with the goal posts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 PM on 03/25/2008

Your candidate is the one implementing the "Tonya Harding" option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:15 PM on 03/25/2008

Yeah that was way over the top, Ashall. I don't have any problem with Hillary other then her selfishness and her lying. If it was for those two things I'd vote for her in a heart beat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:02 PM on 03/25/2008

Clinton is unelectable but really excels at manipulation! There aren't enough white women over 60 and beer drinking democrats for her to pull it off. Not to mention what Repubs would do with her "it takes a village" of lies and flip-flops. When God was giving out integrity, Hillary was taking a poll on whether or not to accept. Oops! Wrong choice... again just like her Iraq war vote. Throw these bums out!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:27 PM on 03/25/2008

Let's put it this way. Hillary knows ALOT about Obama. Stuff beyond the Rev. Wright situation. How it will be revealed over the next months and by whom, who knows except Hillary and Bill. The Clintons are smart poker players. They have some cards in their hands that us regular folks have not seen YET. If the Clintons saw that it was over, Hillary would drop out in a nanosecond. The Clintons are figuring, we will drop the bombs at the appropriate times through the right channels. Even should Obama get the nomination we can feed the vast right wing conspiracy the rest of the goods on Obama to prevent his election. That would set up Hillary for a run in 2012.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:13 PM on 03/25/2008

This is a joke right? So let's not have any primaries or caucuses. Let's not keep track of actual votes cast. Let's not consider pledged delegates that represent millions of people and instead go with less than a thousand super delegates that represent themselves. Yow. Are we to believe that Obama won't win states like New York because Hillary beat him there? Let's get real. Obama has the capacity to woo Republicans and independents Hillary would push towards McCain. Obama's won, Hillary can't catch him in states won, pledged delegates or the popular vote if the tables were reversed Hillary's people would be demanding Obama drop out and they would be right to do so. And he keeps getting her super delegates. I saw the Daily Kos post and it made me gag. Commonwealths and states with New in the name would go for Hillary over Barack? Let it go Clintonistas.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/25/2008

The beauty of Hillary is that by staying in and running Obama is gonna lose more primaries. He will come into the Convention not on a winning streak but a losing one. He will most likely get the nomination but there is that 37 percent of Hillary supporters that according to a recent poll will not vote for Obama. Obama supporters you may proceed with the mudslinging against Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:05 PM on 03/25/2008

Yes and don't they look classy doing this? Especially since he's behind in all the latest polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/25/2008

And what does that show you(us)?

The Obama surrogates are again baiting the Clinton surrogates to answer in order to score cheap political points.

Compare that to what the Clintons (or surrogates) did when the Wright controversy is at its highest. They did not even respond to it. Maybe in order to not turn it into a conflagration. That, to me, is presidential.

I have nothing to say about the Obama camp. Let the facts speak by itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 03/25/2008

I have the ability to see into the future and Hillary will get the nomination right after she has another teary moment right before the North Carolina vote. Actually her plan is to faint from working so, so hard to win the nomination because she just cares about all of us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 03/25/2008

Just in from Mark Penn: "If the sun rises June 1, it'll be a sign that HRC is the Chosen One; delegates who do not switch and vote for her will face eternal damnation on K Street with Jim Carville."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 03/25/2008

She will faint from the fatigue of speaking a million words a day.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 03/25/2008

I propose a new method of choosing a Democratic nominee. The let me decide method. Whomever Hillary says is most qualified should be the nominee because we should just trust her.

Okay how about the Star wars method. If we don't let the Wookie win she'll tear your arms off. Just ask Han Richardson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 03/25/2008
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