Man Who Inspired Wright Sermon: I Would Have Walked Out Of His Church

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First Posted: 03-26-08 04:28 PM   |   Updated: 04- 3-08 05:12 AM

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The man who inspired Reverend Jeremiah Wright's controversial "America's chicken coming home to roost" remarks says that, like Sen. Hillary Clinton, he would have left the church had he been sitting in on that particular sermon.

Ambassador Ed Peck, a retired 32-year diplomat, served as the intellectual basis of a segment of Wright's post 9/11 sermon. (Wright said he saw Peck discussing the backlash of U.S. foreign policy during a Fox News segment.)

But while Peck acknowledges that he still believes that U.S. foreign policy was in many ways responsible for triggering the terrorist attacks, he also insists that he would not have tolerated the incendiary language that Sen. Barack Obama's former pastor employed.

"I probably would have walked out, because you cannot, to me, paint my nation as nothing more than a needless mindless monster. I would say, yes, we have made mistakes. Other nations make mistakes as well, and they haven't been as involved in Middle East," said Peck. "But Reverend Wright was drastically overstating the case... I would not sign on to that procedure and I would never have returned to a place where a man spouted such language, because my perception is that that is not the way to do it. My perception is that you do it my way, with thoughtful efforts to get people to understand what you are talking about."

Peck said that he had not had the chance to view Wright's clips in their entirety. He just returned from a long break only to find out that he had become something of a mini-political celebrity due to his connection to the sermon. He also said that it was unfair to truly judge Wright strictly on these five-second clips, that there were "seeds of truth" to what the Reverend had to say, "but he blasted them out of proportion."

Peck, who has offered controversial criticism of Israeli policy in the West Bank but also warned early against the Iraq Wwar, pointed to several U.S. foreign policy anecdotes that he believed validated his and Wright's premise. Those included testimony, overseen by former Sen. Lee Hamilton, in which intelligence agents testified that the Israel-Palestine conflict had been a main contributor to the proliferation of radical Islamic terrorism. In addition, there was a 60 Minutes interview of Madeline Albright, in which the former Secretary of State said U.S. sanctions on Iraq were worth it despite the deaths of hundreds of thousands of children.

"This is not in any way intended to be a denigration of Dr. Albright, she had a job in explaining and defending American policies," said Peck. "[But] it was probably the coldest thing you will ever see on television. It was run once on 60 Minutes, but it was shown a thousand times overseas."

In his now notorious sermon, Wright highlighted issues analogous to these, as evidence that America had helped aggravate the very terrorists who were striking out. "We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye," he said.

What has not been shown in those clips is that Wright prefaced and concluded that remark by saying he was paraphrasing Peck.

"A white ambassador said that y'all, not a black militant," he said, "not a reverend who preaches about racism, an ambassador whose eyes are wide open and is trying to get us to wake up and move away from this dangerous precipice..."

Peck said that while he never utter the phrase "chickens coming home to roost," he was aware that Wright had taken his words and ideas for his own sermon. Nevertheless, he didn't think the right message had been preached.

"I would not endorse it and I wouldn't sign on to it," he said. "There were seeds of truth to what he said but he blasted them out of proportion from the clips I have seen."

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- vernonbc I'm a Fan of vernonbc 2 fans permalink

The height of irony. Peck says ""There were seeds of truth to what he said but he blasted them out of proportion from the clips I have seen." Yet he doesn't see that the clips he saw were 'blasted out of proportion' to Wright's complete sermon. They are so blind, those who will not see.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:38 AM on 03/27/2008
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And they are so ill informed, those that won't view the sermons in their full context:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 03/27/2008

what context is that? your messiah wants to talk about race , yet he has not propose a single thing to forward the race conversation he want's everybody to have.
may be he's still waiting for the reverend to be taking out of context again .
what a con man . Go Hillary !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 03/27/2008
- ohiodem250 I'm a Fan of ohiodem250 26 fans permalink

That's because Peck didn't even watch the full clips of which he was being asked about. It's pretty hilarious watching all these pols and gov't workers denouncing something they haven't even seen. It's the perfect analogy for politics in our age. "Who cares about content? Just poll two hundred people and I'll agree with the majority."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 03/27/2008

all i can say to peck is to listen or read the entire sermon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 03/27/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 85 fans permalink

If you google Edward Peck, you'll get 20,000 plus hits. Most of them will be about being against the war and/or things America has done to anger other peoples. Peck is a diplomat and he is skilled at speaking his truths in non-inflamatory ways. I admire that and have been impressed by him. However, I am disappointed that he would express himself so thoroughly without taking the time to at least hear what Reverend Wright had to say in his own words, instead of just sound bites chosen by Fox. Peck apparently was fired for disagreeing with the Bush administration and has met with great resistance and had his words twisted. It is true that Wright is a minister instead of a diplomat and his delivery would tend to be more firey. But it is also true that the details of what he said are pretty well born out by history, even if they are not popular.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 03/27/2008

pastor James David Manning of New York's ATLAH World Missionary Church

Hillary gave this clown 1.5 million of tax money - earmarks

Manning: "Harlem must destroy itself."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:19 AM on 03/27/2008

The key words here are "The clips I have seen"!!! Had Peck taken the time to listen to the entire sermon he would be bowing at Rev. Wrights feet!!

BTW Peck would never have been in Rev. Wright's church so saying he would have walked out is just plain stupid!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 AM on 03/27/2008

What you are associated as Obama was a 20 year relationship in the Trinity church close friends with Jeremiah Wright speaks volumes. It speaks volumes on character as well as judgement for him to put himself in the midst of this racism these anti american statements made by Wright.If this was Hillary's pastor people would demand her to step down for this. No speech or lame excuse would be accepted like it was for Obama.Thou­gh the white voters as you'll see in the states ahead it has left a lasting impact on.One that won't go away as the majority of the American people know when their being lied to. The media needs to put away their pom poms the cheering section we hear for Obama and go back to reporting the news instead of trying to control this election.W­hat the news hasn't told you just take a look. http://www.obamatruth.org/
I'm sure when this does come out Fox will be the first on the story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 AM on 03/27/2008
- Ashall I'm a Fan of Ashall 5 fans permalink

You may as well give up on "yesterday's news" - the cat is out of the bag...the clips have been denounced by all those who took the time to listen to the entire sermons. This topic is now boring - why not go after those 20 moneyed people who had the gall to send a scathing letter to Nancy Pelosi trying to bully her into doing things THEIR way! You a Clinton fan? If so, you're part of the bullying community which will probably be given lots of press today. LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 AM on 03/27/2008

I listened to one and found it no less objectionable than the clips...pe­rhaps you should take your own advice rather than parroting what other people say.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 03/27/2008
- kirafa I'm a Fan of kirafa 3 fans permalink

Darling this has become the Obamapost, quit being the Huffington Post about three months ago. If you are a Hillary supporter, go to Taylormarsh.com.

Okay moderator are you going to delete this one too?

BTW, I was asked to moderate on here as well.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:58 AM on 03/27/2008

Rev Wright is a welled respected minister throughout this country. I just find it hard to believe that people make judgements with having the facts. I, for one, don't like to be spoon fed my thoughts.

Bottom line, people should go to youbama.com and listen to the sermon regarding the "chickens coming home to roost". People have heard 10sec of a snipet and believed the commentators hook line and sinker.

Rev. Wright was telling his congregation what he heard someone say on a news show a day or two before. The snipet they keep showing is him telling his congregation what he heard as a pretext . After telling them what he had heard, he then went into is sermon.

People listen for yourselves and don't allow yourself to be force fed a bunch of crap. I have been to Rev. Wright's church and he has been to mine here in Dallas. I know he is a great speaker. The reaction of those who have not heard the entire sermon is one reason that AA feel the way they do. You have condemned someone they think highly of with no proof as they label him a racist. Then have the nerve to tell Sen. Obama that he should leave that church. How dare you. You don't get to dictate what Sen. Obama or other AA's do. Think about it, some of the this crap is why there is such strong ill feelings between AA's and white people.

Keep it real

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:47 AM on 03/27/2008

I agree sir, full heartedly. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 03/27/2008
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And when you view the sermons in their full context, there is nothing incendiary about them:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOdlnzkeoyQ
http://youtube.com/watch?v=RvMbeVQj6Lw

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 03/27/2008

I just do not see anything un-American at all with the what the reverend was saying.
As I understand he was speaking of our government and the corruption within it that runs rampant .
We now have 'in your face' corruption along with the attitude of -so what- We have a government whose conscience is so warped they don't even know what is right anymore.
The reverend was right on. But apparently we are not supposed to talk that way about the government?

"[When] the principle that force is right is become the principle of the nation itself, they would not permit an honest minister, were accident to bring such an one into power, to relax their system of lawless piracy."--­Thomas Jefferson

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 AM on 03/27/2008
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most of what the rev. said was true. peop;e didn't like his tone..pres­. ike said the atomic bombings were inhuman and unnecessar­y..they were dropped on civilian population­s.its a subject we americans do not want to talk about . we don't want the subject brought up period..my two older brothers fought in w.w.2. one in europe one in the south pacific. they both thought the bombings were justified.­.my younger brother and i served in the korean conflict during that war..we both agreed with my brothers..­i'm going on eighty now and my older brothers have passed on..i now have changed my opinion..i can't justify in my mind the killing of a population that was exclusively women children and elderly men passed the draft age.i have come to learn that after v e day, the russians offered to send one half million troops to the pacific theater to help finish that operation.­.historian­s tell us japan was preparing for surrender but we bombed them any way. if the story is true and there are other versions, than i agree with the general and the many others that agree with him..a great nation like us should not be afraid to look back and bring these great issues under a full discussion

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 AM on 03/27/2008
- knosiswar I'm a Fan of knosiswar 31 fans permalink

Nobody even ever talks about the campaign of FIRE-BOMBING that was carried on in WWII, it was horrific, but lost to the destruction of the bombs.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 AM on 03/27/2008
- Gumby123 I'm a Fan of Gumby123 15 fans permalink
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There really isn't anything civilized about war.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 03/27/2008
- ohiodem250 I'm a Fan of ohiodem250 26 fans permalink

CharlieTuna, thanks for the post. If you're telling the truth about being 80 w/ two ww2 vet bros and being a vet yourself we would do better to listen to people like you. Also, big ups for being 80 and being up past midnight and knowing how to use the internet. my grandpa would have no interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 AM on 03/27/2008

I know this is slighly off point. The Japanese bombed China killing 20 million innocent Chinese, attacked Pearl Harbor killing families of American service men, Captured our sailors at sea, tied them to their Japanese subs and then submerged. They would have continued that war till millions more had died had we not dropped the bomb. But, most of all, I don't enjoy hearing a self indulged racist pastor who believes that African Americans have suffered because of white people in general and then implies that the use of the bomb was wrong. The war ended because of this and so did the suffering around the world bought on by that war. And yes, the suffering of people around the world was far more horiffic then any African American can ever lay claim to. Yes, I do agree with you that these issues should be up for discussion, but they must de discussed without oneside having to remain politcally correct while the other side rants in anger.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 03/27/2008

our govt. has repeatedly claimed the bombings saved american lives. what else can they possibly say? its only human and patriotic to want to believe., but two many stories have made there way into publications by pres. eisenhauer and numerous historions that contradict our govt. unfortunately, most stories are buried in back pages where busy people rarely get to.almost every account states japans intent to surrender.­.it makes sense, the war was hopelessly lost and they knew it. as for the japanese brutal torture tactics, their inhuman cruelty is well documented. i know of their many invasions into china, russia korea and numerous other nations..i am not here to defend them.. i only want to know if our country which we both dearly love needed to bomb targets that were exclusively civilian..­nothing would give me greater pleasure than to be proven wrong. this is an important matter that deserves our attention regardless where the truth take us.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 AM on 03/28/2008
- mickyx65it I'm a Fan of mickyx65it 5 fans permalink

The extremely relevant fact is that Ambassador Ed Peck acknowledges that he "still believes that U.S. foreign policy was in many ways responsible for triggering the terrorist attacks". So it is not because Al Qaeda hates freedom as the republicans have said and make war for 8 years. All the people should know this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 PM on 03/26/2008

Hey Mickey Jihad. Reality check: Al Qaeda are murderous bastards no better than Bush and in many ways a lot worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 AM on 03/27/2008
- knosiswar I'm a Fan of knosiswar 31 fans permalink

Hey Magister DumA**, WHY are they murderous 'bastards', is it because they really don't have any fathers. Dads who have been taken by wars that have been stoked by America's hegemonic interest in the treasures (OIL) of THEIR LANDS. Does it have anything to do with Donald Rumsfeld personally delivering BIOLOGICAL WMD's to Saddam Hussein when America was trying to effect REGIME change in IRAN. Does it have anything to do with AMERICAN CIA training, arming, funding, supporting with 'intelligence', the Mujahadeen in its’ war with Russia. Does it have anything to do with the COMPLETE WITHDRAWAL from WAR TORN AFGHANISTAN when the Russians withdrew? Leaving that devastated country, known to be the largest supplier of Heroin to the world, to the Religious zealots the Taliban. Murderous Bastards, what could drive people to such violence? it MUST be their skin tone right - BIGOT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 03/27/2008
- arbroath I'm a Fan of arbroath 3 fans permalink
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I had thought that the "chickens come home to roost" reference was attributable to Malcom X.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 PM on 03/26/2008
- MsLiz I'm a Fan of MsLiz 105 fans permalink
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The congregation surely got the literary reference. However, it is a common enough phrase, predating Malcolm X.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/26/2008

First of all Mr Peck and many of the people who are upset would NEVER ATTEND Rev Wright's church or any other black church.Let­'s get real.This is all about race and what a segment of the country really think of folks who do not look like them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 PM on 03/26/2008

"He also said that it was unfair to truly judge Wright strictly on these five-second clips,"

This is a key point. I believe that most people who view the entire sermon will have a better perspective of the issue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 03/26/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 85 fans permalink

I sure viewed things with more reasonable understanding after I took the time to listen to the entire sermon. It is certainly true that MSM, and especially Fox, did more to arouse ugly emotions in more people and with much less redeeming or inspiring value then did Dr. Wright in his sermon.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 03/27/2008

It's about time Ammbassador Peck has spoken out...too bad he couldn't take the 10 minutes to listen to the entire sermon. It was touching.

Micheal Baisden played it today on mainstream radio and Bubba the Love Sponge was playing it and talking about it all last week.

Hopefully this man, Rev. Jerimiah Wright someday will stop fearing for his life.

The MSM should be held accountable, especially Fox News.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:37 PM on 03/26/2008
- jjc4good I'm a Fan of jjc4good 2 fans permalink

Republican Ed Peck has no time to get the whole context. Why should he be an independent thinker and at least see his own name mentioned in the full sermon, when Fox will replay the "important" parts for him. Gosh, how did this guy become an ambassador? People, please, for the love of God, country, the world, and truth, open your minds and hearts a little before you cast that stone. Was Jesus a prostitute or tax collector because he hung out with them? Peace.
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/quote-for-th-33.html
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/03/martin-marty-on.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/26/2008
- Titonwan I'm a Fan of Titonwan 7 fans permalink

I'm white but I gotta tell ya, sometimes I'm ashamed of some of you folks. Big fat white guy softly tells you lies and it's ok. Fiery black preacher shouts the truth and your "appalled". Wake up. Life is too short.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 PM on 03/26/2008

Amen to that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 PM on 03/26/2008
- hank48188 I'm a Fan of hank48188 8 fans permalink

When a Idiot like Wright complains about the Atomic bomb being dropped on Hiroshima all Americans should be offended, it saved countless American lives. Every American should watch the Ken Burns movie called "The War". The Japanese would behead captured Americans and other atrocities were inflicted against them as well, I guess Wright doesn't know anything about that, like the rest of most Americans. Without the Atomic bombs we would have been forced to invade Japan and kill everyone there, they would never surrender and many more Americans would have been killed in the process.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 AM on 03/27/2008

I don't think it's fair to assume that Reverend Wright does not what you are talking about, and i think it is incredibly unfair for you to assume that he is an idiot for speaking against the bombings. I know that terrible things happened during the war, things that i can't imagine possible. But to assume that Wright is an "idiot" because he spoke against the the atomic bomb is incredible and unjustified. Please don't say such things about him unless you can prove it.

These are the kind of comments that are tearing apart our nation, and i don't know about you guys, but i'm so tired, and so incredibly sad to see people rip apart someone because the media tells them they should. Just because Reverend Wright spoke against the bombs doesn't mean he doens't know the other side, it just simply means that he doesn't agree with it.

I often think that people forget that it's okay to have opinions that are different than their own. If you're going to speak against someone know ALL of the facts before you do so.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:46 AM on 03/27/2008

Your argument is flawed. Soldiers can still choose whom to shoot. Bombs just blow everybody up. It's easy to argue that Hiroshima and Nagasaki were necessary to save American lives, however the ethical aspect of the whole affair is just atrocious. The after-effects of those bombs were lasting. And the US knew they would be. I still remember, not so long ago, the Japanese would hesitate to marry and have children with people from the bombed area, because their children could be born with malformations and other genetic disorders due to radioactive exposure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:47 AM on 03/27/2008
- karela I'm a Fan of karela 85 fans permalink

And you my friend, should read what the 80 yr. old man above has to say about he and his brothers experience and understand after fighting in the war. We were told that it was done to end the war quickly and save lives. We weren't told that it primarily attacked women, children and men too old to fight, or that other countries offered other less devastating options that we turned down. We always complained about Russian propaganda, but the propaganda version of events is surely what you and I were taught in school. You might want to do some research and independent reading from sources that are not taken directly from the propaganda machine. This is a wonderful country AND I LOVE MY COUNTRY. I love it too much to put up with the lies. We're better then that. We aren't cowards. If there are things to face about ourselves, we can face them, deal with correcting what needs to be corrected and then continue on. But I want to be able to look myself in the eye when I look in the morning mirror and that demands the courage of honesty, integrity and the valor needed by each of us to face hard truths about ourselves.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:34 AM on 03/27/2008
- Nommo I'm a Fan of Nommo 77 fans permalink
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He has never been to the church. How could he possibly say that he would do this or do that? What Sunday morning in his life has he ever found himself on the south side of Chicago?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 03/26/2008

Peck said that he had not had the chance to view Wright's clips in their entirety.
Maybe it wouldbe a good idea to know what the hell you're talking about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 03/26/2008

I think I'll just believe whatever Fox News plasters across the screen instead. Way easier.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 03/26/2008

If that's the case, you should renounce your American citizenship and move to North Korea, they are spoon fed "the truth" just like you. You'll have the time of your life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:49 AM on 03/27/2008
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