Clinton Campaign Stands By Harsh Letter To Pelosi

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First Posted: 03-27-08 02:21 PM   |   Updated: 04- 4-08 05:12 AM

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Aides to Sen. Hillary Clinton said on Thursday that they knew key fundraisers for her campaign were sending a letter to Nancy Pelosi, castigating the Speaker over her position on superdelegates and threatening, vaguely, to withhold campaign donations.

And while they did not go so far as to say they approved of the letter's content -- "we didn't know what was in it," said spokesman Phil Singer -- they did argue that the "letter speaks for itself."

"There is clearly a broad feeling among many Democrats and many people who are active in the party," said Singer, "that the role of superdelegates is to exercise independent judgment and make a decision that is best for the party and best for the country."

On Wednesday, Talking Points Memo posted a letter penned by some of the most influential fundraisers of the Clinton campaign, chastising Pelosi for suggesting that superdelegates "have an obligation to support the candidate who leads in the pledged delegate count as of June 3rd." Such a position, the authors wrote, "runs counter to the party's intent in establishing super-delegates in 1984."

To make sure their voices hit home, the Clinton backers reminded Pelosi, somewhat opaquely, that they had been the financial backbone of the very committee that helped elect her Democratic majority.

"We have been strong supporters of the DCCC," they wrote. "We therefore urge you to clarify your position on super-delegates and reflect in your comments a more open view to the optional independent actions of each of the delegates at the National Convention in August."

Early on Thursday, the Center for Responsive Politics calculated that the signatories of the letter had, over the span of more than a decade, put $24 million behind Democratic causes.

Asked whether the Clinton campaign thought it would be appropriate for party financiers to threaten to withhold funds should Pelosi not change her stance, aides to the New York Democrat restated their commitment to helping build a larger Democratic congressional majority.

"As someone who is a former executive director of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee, who spent a lot of years working in the House, who has both friends and family working in the House, I feel, as do most of the people I know, absolutely committed to helping elect Democrats to the House in 2008," said Clinton's communications director, Howard Wolfson. "I believe strongly in Nancy Pelosi's leadership. Obviously, some of our donors had an issue that they wanted to put into writing... But Senator Clinton and Bill Clinton will not take a backseat to anyone when it comes to helping Democrats or helping to fund the party committees. And the people here at every level are absolutely committed to large democratic majorities in 2008 and doing everything we can to helping achieve those large majorities."

On Wednesday, a spokesperson for Pelosi said that the Speaker was "confident" in her proclamation that superdelegates -- when deciding between Sen. Barack Obama and Clinton -- should take into primary consideration the tallies of both the popular vote and the pledged delegate count.

"The speaker believes it would do great harm to the Democratic Party if superdelegates are perceived to overturn the will of the voters," said Brendan Daly, a spokesman for Pelosi. "This has been her position throughout this primary season, regardless of who was ahead at any particular point in delegates or votes."

Aides to Sen. Hillary Clinton said on Thursday that they knew key fundraisers for her campaign were sending a letter to Nancy Pelosi, castigating the Speaker over her position on superdelegates and th...
Aides to Sen. Hillary Clinton said on Thursday that they knew key fundraisers for her campaign were sending a letter to Nancy Pelosi, castigating the Speaker over her position on superdelegates and th...
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- Plank I'm a Fan of Plank 5 fans permalink

If these Clintons donors are so powerful financially, why did Hillary fork $5 Mil of her own money to cover expenses?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 03/27/2008

LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 03/27/2008

If Super delegates can't make up their own mind and they have to follow the vote....then WHY do we have them? Why not just have the pledged delegates?
Obama will certainly have the pledged delegate lead at the end of this contest. I do believe Clinton can close the popular vote in Pennyslvania (4 million dems there) and then with re-votes in Michigan and Florida (which is inevitable despite what they say) she can capture the popular vote and come within 60 pledged delegates of Obama. If she does that by June 10th, she'll be the nominee. If at the end of this, she still is behind in popular AND delegates, Obama will be the nominee. This is what the super's are waiting for.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:15 PM on 03/27/2008

Excellent point, dibby. If the superdelegates are just suppose to rubber stamp the pledged delegate the rule would be "whoever gets the more pledged delegates, wins." In fact, no one even heard of this "follow the pledged delegate" standard for supers until Obama started winning the pledged delegates. All of a sudden that has become a democratic standard for validity of a nominee. The Democrats have had this superdelegate system since 1984 and the supers ALWAYS go with their own best judgment. Suggesting that it should be otherwise is completely breaking the rules, and interestingly, most of the time its touted by the same people who claim that Hillary "will steal the election" by trying to get FL and MI a fair re-vote. Such hypocrisy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:52 PM on 03/27/2008
- OtayPanky I'm a Fan of OtayPanky 66 fans permalink
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dibby: If Super delegates can't make up their own mind and they have to follow the vote....then WHY do we have them?

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Because the dems are IDIOTS.

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dibby: Why not just have the pledged delegates?

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Be patient, child.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 PM on 03/27/2008

Dibby, there is no rule that super delegates can not vote for one candidate or another. It is not like the rule that Hillary and Bill voted for that said that delegates elected before Super Tuesday from states other than Iowa, New Hamshire, Nevada and South Carolina would not be seated. If re-votes can be managed then those delegates could be seated. Most people think Hillary would take Florida big and Obama would win Michigan but not so big. In any event Hillary would have considerably less pledged delegates when voting is completed.
What Pelosi is saying that if the candidate playing by the rules wins the most pledged delegates and that result is reversed by the super delegates it would be bad for the party. A candidate who emerged from such a process could not win and the party would lose credibility with the public and the Republicans would sweep the Presidency and both houses.

The Fat Cats may be rich but they are stupid. They wrote a letter that proved the suspicion that a reversal of the primary would be tainted by special interest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 AM on 03/28/2008
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Super delegates were created to overturn the will of the people. The people couldn't be trusted to choose the best candidate. Clinton is correct in making this claim, but Pelosi is more right in that overturning the will of the people will be party suicide. Denying that is what Clinton is delusional about.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 03/28/2008

I think you are missing the point. Clinton knows (as well as super delegates) that if she loses the popular vote AND the pledged delagate vote, she will NOT be the nominee. Her strategy is fairly simple. She's going to stay in this until she can get a lead in the popular vote, then the super's will go her way. Let's say in the June, they tally everything up and she leads the popular vote by say 300,000. Then she can turn around to the super's and say "more people voted for me than him, you have to pick me!". That's why Obama is blocking re-votes in Florida and Michigan, those two states, along with Pennsylvania could close his popular vote lead.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 03/28/2008
- BikerJim I'm a Fan of BikerJim 3 fans permalink

How is this "There is clearly a broad feeling among many Democrats and many people who are active in the party," said Singer, "that the role of superdelegates is to exercise independent judgment and make a decision that is best for the party and best for the country." from the Clinton Camp, not disenfranchasing voters. She is claiming that they want all of the voter's voices to be heard including Fla, and Mi. but then they want that voice overturned by the superdelegates. Isn't that a contradiction ??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 03/27/2008
- carex I'm a Fan of carex 7 fans permalink

Of course she does, she likely wrote the letter.

Her friends are more important than me and my vote?
That's the great thing about voting, we are all the same, and yes,
the "little" states do count.

The height of arrogance. Isn't she embarassed?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 03/27/2008
- Americano I'm a Fan of Americano 3 fans permalink
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Clinton should stand by that letter. Pelosi basically wants the super-delegates to "rubber stamp" the lead horse to the nomination. If that is the case, two things: 1) If the lead horse is going to be given the nominee, why even have a goal of 2025 delegates? And 2) In Pelosi's scanerio, super-delegates must vote for the lead horse, then why even have super-delegates? This democratic process, which was thought out by our best "Democratic Minds" is just down-right-Dumb! And these idiots are going to solve our problems when it looks like they may lose the presidenial election that was gift wrapped!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:57 PM on 03/27/2008
- MRb1000 I'm a Fan of MRb1000 11 fans permalink

The Clinton are crooks. How can you hold the rest of the party hostage. I say tell the Clinton and the donors don't let the door hit them on the way out. They need us more than we need them. This is the peoples party not the Clintons party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:23 PM on 03/27/2008
- Denni I'm a Fan of Denni 8 fans permalink

Can you name a year in which the person who earned the MOST pledged delegates was NOT nominated... oh, and then tell what happened???? Suddenly the DNC rules no longer matter becuase Clinton can't have what she wants?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 PM on 03/27/2008
- melann830 I'm a Fan of melann830 6 fans permalink

The race is not over. Therefore, he does not have the most pledged delegates yet. He currently has a lead which could change by June. Let the process carry out the way it is supposed to and stop whining.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 03/27/2008
- fayted I'm a Fan of fayted 4 fans permalink

BLACKMAIL ANY ONE? A NEW LOW FOR THE KLINMPTON'­S!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!!!!!!!!!!­!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/27/2008

I wouldn't be using horse racing metaphors If Iwere you. Clinton and McCain have the same campaign manager, Burson Marsteller. It is illegal in racing, Here it just stinks to high heaven.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/27/2008
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Let me get this straight. You think that If Obama has the most popular votes, the most delegates and has won the most states, the super-delegates should give the nomination to Hillary? I don't see how Hillary's gang can scream so loud about disenfranchising voters in Michigan and Florida and then turn around and disenfranchise the majority of voters in the country. That doesn't make sense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:17 AM on 03/28/2008
- the964kid I'm a Fan of the964kid 61 fans permalink
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If any of you Hillary supporters actually think this is reasonable - then you're even worse then the people who re-elected Bush in 2004. This is one of the most blatantly outrageous moments in this entire campaign season. These rich fat cats are straight up threatening to punish democrat politicians if Pelosi doesn't submit to their views of how super delegates should vote. I'm shocked that these people would even add their names to this letter, and I can't see how threatening Dem candidates (many who are also super delegates themselves) could possibly be helpful to Clinton. I'm guessing some of these super delegate un-decideds will quickly come out for Obama in the coming days. And doesn't this accent Obama's call for a government run and funded by the people?? Is this how we want the US government run?? By 10 fat-cat rich big wigs??! It's pretty easy to imagine how a Hillary Clinton administration would be run and what kind of people who have access to the power of the presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:55 PM on 03/27/2008
- JiminNC I'm a Fan of JiminNC 268 fans permalink
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They are the people that re-elected Bush.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 PM on 03/27/2008

Folks, it is happening now. We the people are commandeering the Democratic party away from Clinton's fat cat donors. The neocons hijacked the Republican party during the 1960s/70s. The time is ripe for us to do the same to the Democratic party. Who needs the Clinton big wig donors (24 million in a decade, please!), when the people-powered Obama campaign can come up with over 80 million in two months. Power to the people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 PM on 03/27/2008

So now we know what is powering HRC's campaign. a handful of rich people sign a letter which apparently is supposed to trump the will of the people? if that is what influences the party, then that is not a party I want to have anything to do with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 PM on 03/27/2008

You are 100% correct. This is how Bill and Hillary survive. All the backroom deals the Clintons are involved in is strictly for things like this. The Clintons need to be ousted from our government they are corrupt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 PM on 03/27/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 313 fans permalink
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The hypocrisy! She keeps saying voters in Florida and Michigan are going to be disfranchised. Now she is very willing to disfranchised the whole country.
She doesn't only lye, she uses double speak. She is pathetic!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 PM on 03/27/2008

Sen. Cliton the Beetles said it best "MONEY CAN"T BUY YOU LOVE...."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 03/27/2008
- Superfelo I'm a Fan of Superfelo 6 fans permalink

We are afraid, very afraid, Clinton Backers. Why Obama has raised twice that in a month and you are big givers have given $24 Mill in a decade?:

"Early on Thursday, the Center for Responsive Politics calculated that the signatories of the letter had, over the span of more than a decade, put $24 million behind Democratic causes."

Kee your money, we can triple that. Enough said.

Yes, We Can!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 03/27/2008

Triple 24million in a month.

Fired up and ready to go!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:24 PM on 03/27/2008

I've had enough of government to the highest bidder.

What arrogance!

Well, I guess it's no different than the lobbyists funding Clinton - which she also defends.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 PM on 03/27/2008

didn't the State, Richardson is Govenor of vote for Hillary and should he not do what the majoity of his voters want?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/27/2008

New Mexico was so close that it two weeks to call it. Compare that to all the states Obama took by a landslide.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 03/27/2008
- rojo7449 I'm a Fan of rojo7449 9 fans permalink

Do you vote in the American elections?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 03/27/2008
- BikerJim I'm a Fan of BikerJim 3 fans permalink

SAure, how about the two senators from Washington State changing to support Obama, since their state went for Barack. It is the entire popular and delegate vote that should not be overturned, not an individual district, or state...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:59 PM on 03/27/2008

He's a major flake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 03/27/2008
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My understanding of the concept of the super-delegates supporting the will of the people was that the would consider the will of the American people, not just their individual state.

I find it most ironic that Governor Richardson did, what Hillary is saying the super-delegates should do. Support who he thinks is the best for the country. Yet they call him a traitor. You can't have it both ways. It sounds like she wants them to go with who won their state if she won, and vote for who they think is best if Obama won. I hope we don't end up with a President who uses that kind of logic and expects us to swallow it without question. I find that scary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 AM on 03/28/2008
- IraqVet04 I'm a Fan of IraqVet04 3 fans permalink

What I don't understand is how people can say Hillary has a better chance of beating McCain in November than Obama. How can someone in second place say they'll get more votes than the person in first place??? That's like finishing second in a marathon, but claiming your better because you have a car.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 PM on 03/27/2008
- spicegal I'm a Fan of spicegal 19 fans permalink

Boy, talk about entitlement. Is that anything like the SCOTUS defying the will of the people when they decided to appoint Bush? Guess they also thought they knew what was best for the country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:46 PM on 03/27/2008
- agett12 I'm a Fan of agett12 6 fans permalink

Is the Hillary campaign mental? You try to piss off the most powerful elected woman in america not to mention a KEY superdelegate ? That just seems counterintuitive for a campaign that IS banking on the superdelegates and the convention as a way to the nomination. Personals aside she needs to be thinking smart about her campaign

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:45 PM on 03/27/2008
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