Obama, Not Clinton, Pressing For Florida Delegate Solution

Obama, Not Clinton, Pressing For Florida Delegate Solution

The Buzz   |   March 27, 2008 08:46 AM

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The Hillary Clinton campaign has yet to express any interest in negotiating a solution to Florida's delegate mess, but a couple key Barack Obama staffers - delegate operations director Jeff Berman and political director Matt Nugen called state Democratic chairwoman Karen Thurman to talk about possible ways to give Florida a voice in the nomination.

"We're just looking for solutions," said Obama spokesman Bill Burton.


 
 

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- stateMachine See Profile I'm a Fan of stateMachine

If this is true, is the petition Hillary's circulating then actionably libelous in its claims of Obstructionism from the Obama camp?

Thing is, I think Obama could have made a decent showing in Florida in an honest early primary. After 2 months of RNC I mean RHC primate fesces slanging and McCain endorsing, Idunno.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:44 AM on 03/28/2008
- loudspeaker See Profile I'm a Fan of loudspeaker

This is just rumors from the sewers.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/27/2008
- CarbonDate See Profile I'm a Fan of CarbonDate

Obama right now has a 171 pledged delegate lead. If Florida is seated "as is", it would drop his lead to 129. However, it would also take away Hillary's political football and put him closer to the magic number.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:13 PM on 03/27/2008
- BethinIllinois See Profile I'm a Fan of BethinIllinois

I bet his method of seating the delegates favors him. I bet it splits the delegates, instead of letting them choose how they want to vote. Otherwise, he won't be for it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 03/27/2008
- eanderso See Profile I'm a Fan of eanderso

Obama doesn't want to seat the Florida delegation because he got his ASS KICK...wait...what did he say? His team is looking into ways to seat the delegates? But Hillary's the one who wants...sorry, what? She's not doing anything outside of playing the victim and playing the issue up in the press? But...but...that's so unlike her...

Isn't it?

The above brought to you buy CITIZENS IMAGINING THINGS YOU'LL NEVER HEAR A CLINTON SUPPORTER SAY.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:21 AM on 03/27/2008
- vschicago See Profile I'm a Fan of vschicago

Don't you know sarcasm is angry's ugly cousin...

Love your post, eanderso :-)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 03/27/2008
- robinba137 See Profile I'm a Fan of robinba137

Let's do some math.

These numbers are last week's, but the point remains the same:

Yes, if they seated the Florida delegates today, she would close the delegate gap quite a lot. The problem she has is that Obama's share of delegates puts him in a position where it is possible for a coalition of superdelegates to nominate him, even if Hillary keeps all of her supporting superdelegates.

Obama has 1418 pledged delegates, and 209 superdelegates. There are 341 undecided supers. If we estimate that Obama gets 33% of Florida's pledged delegates (61), that gives him 1688 delegates: that's 337 short of 2025. It is possible that a coalition of undecided superdelegates can give him the nomination.

Hillary would get approximately half of Florida's pledged delegates (93), which brings her to an approximate total of 1588 (counting superdelegates that support her.) That's 437 away from 2025.

What does this mean? Well, it doesn't mean that all of the supers will jump. But there is an increasing fatigue at all of the bloodletting that the Clinton camp is set on pursuing. Hillary's startegy is to stay in as long as possible, and punch Obama until he is too bloody to win the general election. Then, the party will have to pick her. It's divisive, it's old politics, but it's what she is doing.

So -- Hillary has to be careful about how hard she presses for Florida.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 03/27/2008
- dannysdad1 See Profile I'm a Fan of dannysdad1

If Florida and Michigan are allowed to be counted, then the magic number of 2024 is obsolete. That 2024 is based on 48 states plus PR and Guam. Every time you add on a state or territory, the magic number has to increase. Do you think it would be 2024 if a state was to be taken away? You math geniuses out there, think again.
Harvey

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:42 AM on 04/03/2008
- LightningJoe See Profile I'm a Fan of LightningJoe

The problem with Hillary "punch[ing] Obama until he is too bloody to win the general election," is that she keeps hitting her own face.

It brings to mind (and maybe I'm just imagining that I misremember this) old footage of Jerry Lewis as the Screwy Professor, swilling Jekyl-and-Hyde juice, and beating himself up, because he set the potion's change frequency too high.

Seriously, the longer Hillary tries to beat up on Obama, the worse she looks. She's already forsaken any chance of being his VP. How could he possibly run with someone whose sinking credibility is approaching the record Joe Lieberman set?

And that's the key, now, to Hillary's ratings. She not only has no credibility left to speak of, but she demonstrates every day that she's as blithely ignorant of that fact as Floppy Joe is.

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Kill your tv.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 03/27/2008
- robinba137 See Profile I'm a Fan of robinba137

That is a point, isn't it? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:03 PM on 03/31/2008
- cyndeewi See Profile I'm a Fan of cyndeewi

I would not give Fla a chance. Why didn't they cause a stir before Hillary started losing. They knew the rules.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:47 AM on 03/27/2008
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