Reuters: "Somebody Forgot To Tell Hillary Clinton The Democratic Presidential Race Is Over And Barack Obama Won"


First Posted: 03-27-08 01:40 PM   |   Updated: 04- 4-08 05:12 AM

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Reuters:

Somebody forgot to tell Hillary Clinton the Democratic presidential race is over and Barack Obama won.

Obama has captured more state contests, more votes and more of the pledged convention delegates who will help decide which Democrat faces Republican Sen. John McCain in November's presidential election.

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Somebody forgot to tell Hillary Clinton the Democratic presidential race is over and Barack Obama won. Obama has captured more state contests, more votes and more of the pledged convention delegates ...
Somebody forgot to tell Hillary Clinton the Democratic presidential race is over and Barack Obama won. Obama has captured more state contests, more votes and more of the pledged convention delegates ...
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- prverde I'm a Fan of prverde 2 fans permalink

If BHO wins the nomination it's fraud.....­..........­..HRC won all the major states including the big state of Forida and Michigan. The degates in Fl. and Mich. were not counted and BHO does not want them to be counted. The Dems. are stupid because if BHO wins tge nomenee Dems are going to vote Rep.

It's beyond me how BHO could win the nomenee after Rev. Wrights comments ...Anti American, Racist, really hates whites and especially Italians, anti-semite and a lunatic at best. BHO excuses him, will not denounce him and still considers him his mentor , spiritual leader. All this makes NHO racist, anti-semite and an American hater. Yet he could become our pres. . This means the Amer. flag will probably be taken down, we will not support Israel and Democratic countries. We will be letting Alqieda into Amer. to destroy us. There will be many 911.

Obama does want chang...th­e above are the changes.
His Hope is that he can carry out the destruction of America.

He will be asling Rev Wright for advice on how to get even with rich white Amer.. they will get even to what the feel is their downfall and the slavery issue.

America wake up do not vote Obama
Vote Hillary or Mccain. Save our children and grandchildren,,,Ask the Lord to take off your blindfolds so you can see reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 PM on 03/27/2008
- rosal I'm a Fan of rosal 326 fans permalink
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Ask the Lord to save you from your ignorance. I suspect you are not a Democrat. Somebody sent you to stir the pot. Back to watch Faux news. Bye

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 03/27/2008

Whoa. McSAME vs Obama?

Calm down. Obama's not the one pledging to stay in Iraqistan another 100 years so that by the time he's 180, he can tell Shiite from Shinola!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 PM on 03/27/2008

pssst...th­at is why the delegates are proportional to each state's population­...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:03 PM on 03/27/2008

"ostrified" ?

P.S. Got racism?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 PM on 03/27/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 PM on 03/27/2008

Here's what I don't understand from Clinton supporters. And please, don't start sniping with me. I haven't read and didn't comment in the previous thousand comments or so on this post.

Okay, so my question is this - in previous years, by this point, it didn't matter what millions of voters had to say. Why are we acting like it's so important not to "disenfranchise" the voters this year.

The first thought that comes to mind is that just because it happened a particular way in the past doesn't mean it has to or should happen the same one in the present. So are there any points beyond that you could share?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 PM on 03/27/2008
- RobinRocks I'm a Fan of RobinRocks 2 fans permalink

Kansas,

It does matter what the voters have to say. It always has.

you may already realize this, but even if those states voted for Obama and they were disenfranchised we run the risk of those states turning against the DNC in the general election. If their votes don't get to count in the primary, what makes you think they'll care about voting in the general election?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 03/27/2008
- Melissa I'm a Fan of Melissa 24 fans permalink

It will matter when the majority of democratics in Florida who voted for Hillary will vote for McCain in the general. Leadership does not think this will happen, but you cannot leave Fl & Michigan out and expect them to come back into the fold.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 AM on 03/28/2008

Well, one, Florida and Michigan disenfranchised their voters. Not the DNC. Don't get me wrong. I understand your point.

Secondly, I was referring specifically to FL and MI, but rather, the notion that if the primary election ends now, the voters of the next 10 states to hold primaries will be disenfranchised. It's not like their voters counted before. Why pretend it's so important to enfranchise them now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 03/28/2008

The answer is simple.

It's not that in prior years millions were disenfranchised. Not at all. But in a nation with NON-simultaneious primaries, it is COMMON that one candidate gets a MAJORITY of delegates BEFORE the convention. The other candidate can get ALL the remaining delegates, and it wouldn't matter.

Such is not the case now. Even leaving MI and FL votes out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:05 PM on 03/27/2008

Sorry, but the states of MI and FL disenfranchised their own voters. No one to blame but them. They refused to follow the rules and they lost.

That is fair play.

No, go ahead, take your ball and go home.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 03/27/2008

Yeah. But Obama willhave that majority. So why keep campaigning?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 PM on 03/27/2008

This is precisely the type of rhetoric that will keep Clinton in this until the last breath.

This crap article is food for the Clintons Mr. Whitesides and you and Reuters know this.

What is the Clinton camp paying you for this John and if you actually have this conviction and went ahead with this article anyway? There are job opportunities more suitable for you. Egg Candler or Shepherd, take your pick.

OC

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 03/27/2008

We almost have the ingredents for a civil war! Beat it Hillary.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 PM on 03/27/2008
- Dyogenes I'm a Fan of Dyogenes 2 fans permalink

Latest Pew poll has her Down by 10, plus BIG credibility http://people-press.org/.http://people-press.org/reports/images/407-2.gif/407-2.gif
The latest nationwide survey by the Pew Research Center, conducted March 19-22 among 1,503 adults, finds that Obama maintains a 49% to 39% advantage over Hillary Clinton for the Democratic nomination, which is virtually unchanged from the 49% to 40% lead he held among Democrats in late February.

43% White Democrats say HRC is "hard to like"--and that was before she hyperventilated rants and threats today on Fox News! She gets more and more UN-presidential each day-- becoming like a political-suicide bomber in her desoerate Tanya Harding, "torched earth" fight to win, at any and all costs to herself and the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 PM on 03/27/2008

Got Misogyny?

Any Dem who accepts the Tanya Harding line is an embarrassment.

Last I checked, Obama was neither crying his eyes out, or too injured to compete.

Weenies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:07 PM on 03/27/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Well the point isn't what the victim did.

The point is that someone who *could not win legitimately and fairly* resorted to injuring her opponent so badly that neither could win.

Its not really a stretch...­Hillary cannot win fairly now, she can only win by utterly destroying Obama. Shes resorting to stoking racsim and a known false smear campaign - many people consider spreading republican smears (not to mention endorsing the republican over the democrat) to be below the belt (or! kneecapping). This is especially true whrn both McCain and Huckbee publically defended him, while she cannot even show the grace they did.

Her tactics are destroying her own electibility numbers, and if she succeeds, neither one will be electible. This is why she needs to stop now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:46 PM on 03/27/2008
- Daniel8168 I'm a Fan of Daniel8168 11 fans permalink

Got the ability to think rationally and understand issues beyond gender?

Ummm... the reference isn't made because of the gender of Tanya Harding. Tell ya what... if it makes you feel better, you can come up with a better analogy yourself and we'll use that instead. The fact remains however that Clinton knows the only way she can get the nomination is if she cripples Obama. That's the point of the reference to Tanya Harding - it's what Harding DID, not what gender she is.

What I find incredible however is that I was actually surprised by your cries of "misogyny". I should have seen it coming since I've seen the same crap for a while now, including when Obama said that Clinton "periodically feels down". Somehow that was turned into a sexist remark. Personally, I understood it to mean that "she is upset at times". But somehow her supporters turned it into a sexist remark. Keep digging folks, but at least have the courage to apologize and feel embarrassed for uttering paranoid crap like this.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 03/28/2008
- RobinRocks I'm a Fan of RobinRocks 2 fans permalink

why do you find it necessary to associate the former first lady of the united states with Tanya Harding. Can you be more respectful of our candidates? I dare you to be in their shoes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 03/27/2008

"Can you be more respectful of our candidates?"

Ha, that's a laugh. Hillary has pimped disrespect as her modus operandi. She 'mocks' the idea of hope, claims that the ONLY thing Senator Obama has done in his life is make "one speech", allows the Muslim question (which shouldn't matter anyway, by the way) to continue, even giving it added steam, with her remark "not as far as I know", and the list goes on and on.

Let me as you this Robin, if Hillary has been asked if McCain was a Muslim, do you think she would have done anything other than laugh and say something like "don't be ridiculous, of course not, what a silly question!"?

Hillary IS like Tanya Harding. It is a perfect analogy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 03/27/2008
- BardEric I'm a Fan of BardEric 10 fans permalink

The idea that we should start asking candidates for political office to drop out of election contests while their candidacy is still potentially viable is repugnant, and grossly un-democratic. Why is it that where Hillary is concerned, the haters can even rationalize condoning that our election processes dont even need to play themselves out anymore? Evidently the public knows best., and all we need these days is the frenzied media beauty pagent/ love affair the like of which has surrounded BHO. Our forefathers, (wisely)knew better; -hence the way the Nom process is structured. Hell, maybe we dont even need a convention anymore; we can just go with and nominate the most popular candidate based on so-and-so's latest polling figures, and wheter or not they were ahead when we told the other candidate to step down..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 03/27/2008

Huzzah.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 03/27/2008

But, but, but . . . . Hillary is no longer viable. They is why she is being urged to step down.

Hillary is a liability to the Democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 03/27/2008
- BardEric I'm a Fan of BardEric 10 fans permalink

When your deficit in the popular vote is less than the population of a single state, you are CERTAINLY still viable..Wh­en your deficit in delegates is less then the remaining un-commited delegates you are still viable. (are you following me?) And guess what?;-Just because your detractors wish you would step down because you are bringing attention to your candidates faults YOU ARE STILL VIABLE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 03/27/2008
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Siegelman's (former Alabama Governor) being released tomorrow. Big news.
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/27/house.siegelman/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:05 PM on 03/27/2008

It's clear that we are in the end-game in the Primary. The Clinton campaign's ever more clamorous denunciations of media bias point to an emerging consensus that Obama has prevailed. Hillary's only remaining pitch is that she is more electable in the general election. Clearly the majority of voters in the majority of states don't agree with her. Although determined, she is not stupid and will step down following the next cluster of primaries.

At this stage it is the shrill and ugly cocophany of her die-hard loyalists that will likely do the lasting damage to the Democratic party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/27/2008
- Mollye I'm a Fan of Mollye 9 fans permalink

The Primaries are not OVER. Are Obama and his supporters trying to cheat millions of people out of their votes?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 03/27/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Only 18% of the delegates remain to be contested, and Obama has a lead of 6%. Nobody is being cheated. There is nothing unusual, unorthodox, amazing, or undemocratic about the contest ending before the last vote is cast. It is, infact, the norm.

Save the hysteria.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/27/2008
- NewRiver I'm a Fan of NewRiver 21 fans permalink
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Voter disenfranchisement from the Democrats? Oh say it ain't so Joe!!! LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 03/27/2008
- Thatcher I'm a Fan of Thatcher 7 fans permalink

look at the past 28 years - almost every presidential primary was down to one presumptive nominee shortly after Super Tuesday. On June 3rd - Obama will still have the lead in pledged delegates, states, and popular vote. All this will do is continue to cost more money and cause more fracture in the party. Stop the insanity.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:55 PM on 03/27/2008
- BikerJim I'm a Fan of BikerJim 3 fans permalink

I completely agree. Hillary keeps saying that Bill did notget the nomination until June, true, but the primaries did not start until almost March, 2 months later than this year,. Also the only thing that this is doing is keeping the dems from campaigning against McCain and the GOP and wasting millions of dollars that could be spent on the general. This is doing no good what so ever....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 PM on 03/27/2008
- Thatcher I'm a Fan of Thatcher 7 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:59 PM on 03/27/2008

Just like in Michigan, he will only agree if Florida voters go by "Obama rules". There must be a caucus so his paid supporters can intimidate Hillary supporters like they have in the orhers. It's call "Obama Organization" and I saw it in operation in Texas.

If Obama wins the Democratic nomination, it will be the same as if Clinton wins by using the superdelegates. Neither one will be valid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 03/27/2008

They already did in Florida and Michigan. Why would a few more bother them. Anything to win!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 03/27/2008
- Kim445588 I'm a Fan of Kim445588 4 fans permalink

According to Clinton, pledged delegates are fair game, which is the epitome of disenfranchisement.

This is so over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:07 PM on 03/27/2008

This thing is taking on a life of it's own isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 PM on 03/27/2008

Sure, but the unfortunate allegory is a fire feeding on its own accumulation of heat, growing by igniting and consuming materials that are less and less combustible by virtue of higher and higher heat. I hope the party doesn't go much farther down this path....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/27/2008
- NewRiver I'm a Fan of NewRiver 21 fans permalink
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Operation Chaos alive and well

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:54 PM on 03/27/2008

Shhh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:57 PM on 03/27/2008
- Kim445588 I'm a Fan of Kim445588 4 fans permalink

If I were a repug and had to support a candidate that was such a horrible representative of conservative values as McCane is, I would be pissed too. And if my party's ideology had been so bastardized by the current president, that my side is likely to lose not just the presidency, but seats in the congress and the house, I would be bitter as well.

Obama will bury your candidate. You can't stop this movement. Not this time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:14 PM on 03/27/2008
- WebForce1 I'm a Fan of WebForce1 7 fans permalink
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No, no, no, God Damn America!
Reverand Wright

Don't tell me words don't matter
Barack Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 PM on 03/27/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Propaganda much?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:51 PM on 03/27/2008
- BeeClone I'm a Fan of BeeClone 2 fans permalink

We had to run with our heads down ......
Hillary Clinton

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:08 AM on 03/28/2008
- abot I'm a Fan of abot 4 fans permalink

you're right GD america. When HRC steps down it will be GB america.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 AM on 03/28/2008

My perdiction is that Obama already has 50-60 delegates lined up in his favor and after he wins NC, those delegates will come forward

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:40 PM on 03/27/2008

Fine.

Then let the SD's declare in public, and let the tally hit the 50%+1.

Until then, we still have a race to settle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:09 PM on 03/27/2008

"Until then, we still have a race to settle."

What is this? Do you think you are some big stud cowboy standing in the middle of the street with hands perched, ready to do a quick draw and shoot down the cow rustlers?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 PM on 03/27/2008
- nomobull I'm a Fan of nomobull 45 fans permalink
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one poll says 50/50 and you take it as gospel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 AM on 03/28/2008

Kevin seven.....­.....your post I responded to was ambiguous. think about it. 2/3rds could be hers cause of Reverend Wrong!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:33 PM on 03/27/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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That is going away rapidly, the polls all show that. She would need to deliberately play a race card. She would never do that, right?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:34 PM on 03/27/2008
- Thatcher I'm a Fan of Thatcher 7 fans permalink

Have you NOT read all the lastest polls on that issue ... He's almost back up in the polls (and in some, farther). Get with it, geesh.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:35 PM on 03/27/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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Old news. Check the polls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 03/27/2008

Clinton is losing....­.........m­ake her quit cause she might pull it out and win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:25 PM on 03/27/2008
- kevenseven I'm a Fan of kevenseven 501 fans permalink
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You agreed that it is impossible to get 2/3rds of the remaining delegates. Why are you contradicting yourself?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/27/2008

Mmmm...gue­ssing here: ...can't or won't see the big picture?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:31 PM on 03/27/2008
- WebForce1 I'm a Fan of WebForce1 7 fans permalink
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Man you gotta be tired of typing the word delegate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:32 PM on 03/27/2008
- BardEric I'm a Fan of BardEric 10 fans permalink

And you are ignoring the fact that Barack almost certainly cannot achieve his 2025 delegates b4 the convention even if HE got the remaining 2/3.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 03/27/2008
- Gmoney1 I'm a Fan of Gmoney1 24 fans permalink

I think that a suit should be filed in court against the media, the democratic and republican party with respect to all the race and religious discrimination that has been lodged against Barack Obama during this campaign - and it should be taken to the supreme court -

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:22 PM on 03/27/2008

The same Supreme Court that installed el Busho? Oh wait, there's now TWO more right-wingers than in 2000.

Good luck with that.

Another reason to support EITHER Dem in November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 03/27/2008
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