Ultimate Fights Expand to Include Kids

digg Share this on Facebook Huffpost - Ultimate Fights Expand to Include Kids stumble reddit del.ico.us RSS

MARCUS KABEL | March 27, 2008 08:53 AM EST | AP

Compare other versions »
I Like ItI Don’t Like It
Eli Lindsey, eight, top, spars with Gage Bloomer, eight, during practice at Garage Boys Fight Crew in Carthage, Mo, on Wednesday, March 5, 2008. Lindsey and Bloomer train at the facility in southwest Missouri for ultimate fighting events.(AP Photo/Mike Gullett)

CARTHAGE, Mo. — Ultimate fighting was once the sole domain of burly men who beat each other bloody in anything-goes brawls on pay-per-view TV.

But the sport often derided as "human cockfighting" is branching out.

The bare-knuckle fights are now attracting competitors as young as 6 whose parents treat the sport as casually as wrestling, Little League or soccer.

The changes were evident on a recent evening in southwest Missouri, where a team of several young boys and one girl grappled on gym mats in a converted garage.

Two members of the group called the "Garage Boys Fight Crew" touched their thin martial-arts gloves in a flash of sportsmanship before beginning a relentless exchange of sucker punches, body blows and swift kicks.

No blood was shed. And both competitors wore protective gear. But the bout reflected the decidedly younger face of ultimate fighting. The trend alarms medical experts and sports officials who worry that young bodies can't withstand the pounding.

Tommy Bloomer, father of two of the "Garage Boys," doesn't understand the fuss.

"We're not training them for dog fighting," said Bloomer, a 34-year-old construction contractor. "As a parent, I'd much rather have my kids here learning how to defend themselves and getting positive reinforcement than out on the streets."

Story continues below
advertisement

Bloomer said the sport has evolved since the no-holds-barred days by adding weight classes to better match opponents and banning moves such as strikes to the back of the neck and head, groin kicking and head butting.

Missouri appears to be the only state in the nation that explicitly allows the youth fights. In many states, it is a misdemeanor for children to participate. A few states have no regulations.

Supporters of the sport acknowledge that allowing fights between kids sounds brutal at first. But they insist the competitions have plenty of safety rules.

"It looks violent until you realize this teaches discipline. One of the first rules they learn is that this is not for aggressive behavior outside (the ring)," said Larry Swinehart, a Joplin police officer and father of two boys and the lone girl in the garage group.

The sport, which is also known as mixed martial arts or cage fighting, has already spread far beyond cable television. Last month, CBS became the first of the Big Four television networks to announce a deal to broadcast primetime fights. The fights have attracted such a wide audience, they are threatening to surpass boxing as the nation's most popular pugilistic sport.

Hand-to-hand combat is also popping up on the big screen. The film "Never Back Down," described as "The Karate Kid" for the YouTube generation, has taken in almost $17 million in two weeks at the box office. Another current mixed martial arts movie, "Flash Point," an import from Hong Kong, is in limited release.

Bloomer said the fights are no more dangerous or violent than youth wrestling. He watched as his sons, 11-year-old Skyler and 8-year-old Gage, locked arms and legs and wrestled to the ground with other kids in the garage in Carthage, about 135 miles south of Kansas City.

The 11 boys and one girl on the team range from 6 to 14 years old and are trained by Rudy Lindsey, a youth wrestling coach and a professional mixed martial arts heavyweight.

"The kids learn respect and how to defend themselves. It's no more dangerous than any other sport and probably less so than some," Lindsey said.

Lindsey said the children wear protective headgear, shin guards, groin protection and martial-arts gloves. They fight quick, two-minute bouts. Rules also prohibit any elbow blows and blows to the head when an opponent is on the ground.

"If they get in trouble or get bad grades, I'll hear about it and they can't come to training," he added.

In most states, mixed martial arts is overseen by boxing commissions. In Missouri, the Office of Athletics regulates the professional fights but not the amateur events, which include the youth bouts. For amateurs, the regulation is done by sanctioning bodies that have to register with the athletics office.

The rules are different in Oklahoma, where unauthorized fights are generally a misdemeanor offense. The penalty is a maximum 30 days in jail and a fine up to $1,000.

Joe Miller, administrator of the Oklahoma Professional Boxing Commission, said youth fights are banned in his state, and he wants it to stay that way.

"There's too much potential for damage to growing joints," he said.

Miller said mixed martial arts uses a lot of arm and leg twisting to force opponents into submission. Those moves, he said, pressure joints in a way not found in sanctioned sports like youth boxing or wrestling.

But Nathan Orand, a martial arts trainer from Tulsa, Okla., said kids are capable of avoiding injuries, especially with watchful referees in the rings. He thinks the sport is bound to grow.

"I can see their point because when you say 'cage fighting,' that right there just sounds like kids shouldn't be doing it," Orand said.

"But you still have all the respect that regular martial arts teach you. And it's really the only true way for youth to be able to defend themselves."

Back in the Carthage garage, Bloomer said parents shouldn't worry about kids becoming aggressive from learning mixed martial arts. He said his older son was picked on by bullies at school repeatedly last year but never fought them, instead reporting the problem to his teachers.

And fighters including his 8-year-old son get along once a bout is over, Bloomer said.

"When they get out of the cage, they go back and play video games together. It doesn't matter who won and who lost. They're still little buddies."

CARTHAGE, Mo. — Ultimate fighting was once the sole domain of burly men who beat each other bloody in anything-goes brawls on pay-per-view TV. But the sport often derided as "human cockfighting...
CARTHAGE, Mo. — Ultimate fighting was once the sole domain of burly men who beat each other bloody in anything-goes brawls on pay-per-view TV. But the sport often derided as "human cockfighting...
Filed by Nick Graham  |  Report Corrections
 
Comments
42
Pending Comments
0
iPhone App Promo

Want to reply to a comment? Hint: Click "Reply" at the bottom of the comment; after being approved your comment will appear directly underneath the comment you replied to

View Comments:
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 (2 pages total)

If they get in trouble or get bad grades, I'll hear about it and they can't come to training," he added.

So beyond their possible insane child abuse theories, does this mean they are training intelligent killers of the future. It also seems that their total lack of intelligence is surpassed only by the idiotic parents who would allow their children to particpate in this nonsense. Do they also have a contract with the army for God camps?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:53 PM on 03/27/2008

you are all a little ignorant about MMA. It is hugely less dangerous than boxing as a sport. in it's near 11 year history, there has been no deaths in MMA as a result of the actual comopetition. Where as in boxing, there are on average 10 deaths ever year due directly to the contest. MMA is designed to teach a wide range of discipline and respect. just because you do not approve of phsyical contests that include punching as respectful does not mean they aren't. I emplore you all to educate yourselves on the subject before you start sounding off at the mouths.

Now, should 6-year olds be participating in this? maybe, maybe not. they are intensely padded, and under adult supervision. I wonder how many kids have broken their arms and legs during karate practice over the passed 40 years??? nobody says anything about that! But you take something you know nothing about, and trash it precicely based on your ignorance of it.

Do your research please!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 03/27/2008
- Fletch17C I'm a Fan of Fletch17C 3 fans permalink

I can only think of one kid who broke his arm in our karate class over the years. He finished sparring, bowed to his partner, and walked back to sit down. That's when he tripped over the edge of the mat, fell, and broke his arm. The kid was about 10 years old. He said it hurt, but he still thought it was kind of funny.

I have heard about kids who suffer more intense and sometimes permanent injuries from studying ballet. When you consider how many dancers suffer from bulimia, I would say ballet is more psychologically dangerous than martial arts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:35 PM on 03/27/2008
- TheApeMan I'm a Fan of TheApeMan 3 fans permalink

Totally agree mfalino!

There are more injuries (and more serious ones) in football every year than in MMA yet that is okay.
I wonder why?
Maybe because 230+ lb steriod monsters are colliding into each other at full speed...th­at sounds safe!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 03/28/2008
- Libsrule I'm a Fan of Libsrule 21 fans permalink

That is just disgusting and every state in America needs to ban this sort of disgusting thing.

To get kids to learn to beat the hell out of each other for sport is wrong on every level you can imagine.

Those parents should be locked up for child abuse and child endangerment.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:10 PM on 03/27/2008
- zenx98 I'm a Fan of zenx98 6 fans permalink

Punching, wrestling, ground and pound, kicking, body slamming, choke-outs, I don't recall a single nun stopping a single fight my entire eight years of catholic school.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:09 PM on 03/27/2008

You know what? Come to think of it, they never did in my eight years of Catholic grade school either. And we had a kid break ribs in the 4th grade in one pile on too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:21 PM on 03/27/2008

When do they get to introduce lions into the competition. Swords and spears seem destined to be coming too. Oh what a time we live in.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 03/27/2008

The only thing missing is Army recruiters to enlist them in the delayed entry program. From the cage right to Iraq - a seamless transition. And they wonder where we'll keep getting the cannon fodder! Sure beats reading a book or anything boring like that eh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:45 PM on 03/27/2008

Kids do Karate, kids beat each other up in school fights. Why not do it in a controlled environment? Teaching Mixed Martial Arts is a good way to relieve stress and to stay in shape. Teaching kids to defend themselves isn't the problem. The problem is to tell them, "Now do this to all your friends." Which, I'm fairly certain, isn't going to be the case.

How is fighting a seamless transition to joining the armed services? I fail to understand that logic.

And kudos to Fletch, who brings some actual insight to the discussion.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 03/27/2008
- DHeil I'm a Fan of DHeil 4 fans permalink

oh, the wisdom of backwoods parents who encourage street fighting at an early age. what's the matter? karate and wrestling aren't violent enough for these parents? of course there are rules! until the kid decides he wants to practice on the school playground, or until some local bully decides he wants to challenge the "cage fighting" champion..­.

i say, if the parents want to go out and get their own asses kicked, fine. but encouraging their kids to become ultimate fighters is just ridiculous. what kind of redneck society are we promoting in this country? oh yeah, the same valued wisdom that led us into Eye-RAQ, for reasons of getting revenge against ANYONE who our prezdent sez needs an ass whoopin.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 03/27/2008
photo

The culture of violence in this country is at an all time high. Although, it is absolutely necessary in order to keep the American Empire alive. We can denounce everything in this country from medicinal marijuana to pedophilia but conveniently skip over the amount of violence in everyday life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:00 PM on 03/27/2008
- NotMyPrez I'm a Fan of NotMyPrez 4 fans permalink

Actually not too different from martial arts tournaments- the kids are wearing gear, so it's really just a glorified mma match.
(mma- mixed martial arts) How is the potential different from a kid doing a body slam/suplex? Contact sports always carry a risk of injury.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:51 PM on 03/27/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 79 fans permalink

This brand of "Sport" teaches one to continue hitting once the opponent is down. No honor at all. Once that component of a martial art is gone, Hell is unleashed.

Honor is a dividing line between man and monster. The ancient masters knew this. These parents are making their kids into something they will regret later. Man turned on himself. Devilish brilliance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:37 PM on 03/27/2008

You obviously dont know anything about jiu jitsu or MMA.

If a person is on their back they can still defend themselves and submit you from that position.

I dont see how this is any different from childrens amateur wrestling or karate.

Guess which sport has the most injuries every year?

MMA? Boxing? Football?

No its cheerleading. Please educate yourself before you form a conclusion on a subject.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:16 PM on 03/27/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 79 fans permalink

HereWeAre

Well, I have apparently struck a nerve. My opinion, educated or otherwise, should not have had such an effect here. It could easily have just blended in with the others. My point is not about you - as an adult - practicing this form of martial art/sport. But you take issue with it.

I'm not talking about the physical injuries alone. Many sports carry that risk, as you have stated above. It's the mental and emotional harm in allowing such violence to be sanctioned under any heading.

It's about teaching children to punch their opponent while in a clinch on the ground that I find hard to defend.

It's what bullies do. It is without mercy. To be told that it's a merciless world does little to sway me from this point. Being the problem is in no way the solution.

That being said, I respect your right to practice as you will, but only and specifically because you're an adult.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 03/31/2008
- TheApeMan I'm a Fan of TheApeMan 3 fans permalink

oh jeez!
MMA began as an evolution of Brazil's Vale Tudo (anything goes).
It is a sport that can be used for self defense.
If you happen to be attacked in the street, are you going to tell the person to stop hitting you once you fall to the ground?!
The whole purpose of the martial arts was a way to defend yourself.
If you're a karate guy and get taken down, what are you going to do?! You'll probably be beaten unconscious (or worse!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:45 AM on 03/28/2008
- protagonia I'm a Fan of protagonia 79 fans permalink

TheApeMan See Profile I'm a Fan of TheApeMan

oh jeez!
MMA began as an evolution of Brazil's Vale Tudo (anything goes).
It is a sport that can be used for self defense.
If you happen to be attacked in the street, are you going to tell the person to stop hitting you once you fall to the ground?!
The whole purpose of the martial arts was a way to defend yourself.
If you're a karate guy and get taken down, what are you going to do?! You'll probably be beaten unconscious (or worse!)
----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­----------­--------

First, I respect your knowledge in this. The time and effort you have put into know it. The pain inflicted. The cost. But you are an adult.

As an adult I have come to know a little bit about groundwork. Choke-outs and arm-bars. I know about street fighting. Finishing a fight that someone else started.

The issue is about children. What is being re-enforced in their psyches. This is the most violent time for our society in recent history. Children don't decide things the same way adults do, and should be given gentler tools to work with until they mature and gain interactive experience.

There's enough violence. That's my only point.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 03/29/2008
- dadw5boys I'm a Fan of dadw5boys 281 fans permalink
photo

Now I believe the USA is the New Roman Empire.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 03/27/2008
Page: « First ‹ Previous 1 2 (2 pages total)
Comments are closed for this entry

 You must be logged in to comment. Log in  or connect with 

Connect