Bush: Iraq Violence A Necessary Part Of Development

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TERENCE HUNT | March 28, 2008 11:07 PM EST | AP

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President Bush and Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd hold a joint news conference, Friday, March 28, 2008, in the East Room at the White House in Washington. Rudd took over in November on a pledge to pull Australia's 500 combat troops out of Iraq as soon as possible. (AP Photo/Ron Edmonds)

WASHINGTON — President Bush declared on Friday that Iraq stands at a defining moment as it struggles to put down heavily armed Shiite militias in new flare-ups of violence that threaten to undercut security gains and sway his decision about U.S. troop drawdowns.

In Baghdad, Shiite extremists lobbed rockets and mortars against the U.S.-protected Green Zone, which has come under steady barrages this week. The U.S. sent a Hellfire missile into a Shiite stronghold in the city. And in the south, fighting escalated in Basra where the mettle of Iraqi security forces is being sorely tested.

"Any government that presumes to represent the majority of people must confront criminal elements or people who think they can live outside the law," Bush said at the White House. "And that's what's taking place in Basra and in other parts of Iraq. I would say this is a defining moment in the history of a free Iraq."

It's also a key juncture for Bush in the five-year-old war that has claimed 4,000 American lives, worn U.S. forces thin and dominated his presidency.

Bush said Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's crackdown in Basra against Shiite militias vying for control of the oil-rich region is a positive milestone in the birth of a democratic nation. The Iraqi prime minister's decision to move against enemy elements in Basra shows "evenhanded justice" and the Iraqi government's willingness to go after both Sunni and Shiite insurgents and outlaws, he said.

Just as important is how the violence plays out. The ability of Iraqi security forces to control places like Basra will color the president's decision on whether to order more U.S. troop withdrawals beyond the five U.S. brigades already returning home by July _ something that's already looking unlikely.

The renewed violence, which has followed months of relative calm, threatened to unravel a fragile cease-fire with followers of radical Shiite cleric Muqtada al-Sadr. How much U.S. troops are drawn into the fight will be a telling sign of the Iraqi forces' ability to protect the nation.

Bush stressed that those Iraqi forces remained in the lead, yet U.S. forces stepped deeper into the fight.

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U.S. pilots assisting Iraqi forces conducted airstrikes on Basra on Friday. American jets dropped bombs in the city, marking a sharp escalation in the fight against insurgents the Pentagon accuses of having links to Iran.

Bush said he did not know what triggered al-Maliki to act.

"This was his decision," Bush said during a news conference with visiting Australian Prime Minister Kevin Rudd, who is pulling 550 Australian troops out of Iraq.

Bush said of al-Maliki: "It was his military planning. It was his causing the troops to go from point A to point B. And it's exactly what a lot of folks here in America were wondering whether or not Iraq would even be able to do in the first place."

While he praised the Iraqi government's actions, he cautioned that the situation in Iraq remains "dangerous and fragile." He urged patience.

"They're fighting some pretty tough characters, people who kill innocent people to achieve objectives," he said. "And, yes, there's going to be violence, and that's sad. But this situation needed to be dealt with, and it's now being dealt with."

The Iraqi military campaign has triggered Shiite uprisings in other parts of the country, and, if the violence is not contained it could force U.S. officials to rethink further cutbacks in troop levels.

Early next month, Bush is expected to endorse a temporary halt in the withdrawal of troops from Iraq. The top U.S. commander in Iraq, Gen. David Petraeus, has warned against shrinking the American force so rapidly that the gains in security will be compromised.

The latest tally of casualties over the past several weeks shows more high spikes than in previous months _ including several days with 100 or more U.S. military, Iraqi military and Iraqi civilian deaths.

Officials say they are not yet certain whether the upturn in casualties represents a trend of increased violence. And it is not clear that Petraeus will be able to make such a conclusion before he goes before Congress April 8.

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Associated Press Writer Lolita Baldor contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — President Bush declared on Friday that Iraq stands at a defining moment as it struggles to put down heavily armed Shiite militias in new flare-ups of violence that threaten to under...
WASHINGTON — President Bush declared on Friday that Iraq stands at a defining moment as it struggles to put down heavily armed Shiite militias in new flare-ups of violence that threaten to under...
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- StillAmused I'm a Fan of StillAmused 274 fans permalink

When he was a developmentally-arrested child, Junior used to tell frogs that violence was a necessary part of THEIR development... just before he blew them up.

"Now leaving for The Hague on Track Three..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 03/28/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 89 fans permalink
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It is all so wonderful, and W is so happy at this defining moment. ???? Man, I tell you, he is on some good antidepressants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 03/28/2008

Just damn sad and under the radar he goes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 03/28/2008
- CAskeptic I'm a Fan of CAskeptic 2 fans permalink

It is just all so romantic for those Iraqis. What a great life.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:06 PM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

I can't wait for the Iraqi chardonnay and brie.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/28/2008

When did Jack Daniels become an anti-depressant??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:19 PM on 03/28/2008
- WLA I'm a Fan of WLA 323 fans permalink
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Sometimes when he talks about death and destruction, it seriously looks like he's having a hard time holding back a smile.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:09 PM on 03/28/2008
- TLP I'm a Fan of TLP permalink

Bush is one of four Presidents elected that lost the popular vote. He is not saying this, someone writes for him and he reads it. He's dumber than owl shit and with a double digit IQ. He is a liar and he is dangerous. he can't even read a teleprompter. When will it be Jan 09?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 03/28/2008
- chronic I'm a Fan of chronic 71 fans permalink
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He calls himself a "christian"?

Ha! Get Real!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 03/28/2008
- chirps I'm a Fan of chirps 23 fans permalink

What did America do to deserve this guy?

And 65% of Republicans STILL think he's doing a good job!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 03/28/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Because we're not narrow-minded, disillusioned, uninformed voters. WE understand the need to WIN this war. WE understand the ramifications of a friendly democracy in the heart of Indian Country. WE understand there is something more important than our SUV, CELL PHONE, XBOX, existence......sorry, to be so simplistic, but your inane comment deserved it. I understand.....you still won't get it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 03/28/2008
- chirps I'm a Fan of chirps 23 fans permalink

"Because we're not narrow-minded, disillusioned, uninformed voters. WE understand the need to WIN this war. "

I know. We've still got to find and destroy all those vast stockpiles of WMD.

"WE understand the ramifications of a friendly democracy in the heart of Indian Country."

Do you understand the ramifactions of opening an ice cream factory in Hell?
Dick Cheney, at one point, certainly did. Check it out (love to hear your take on it):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YENbElb5-xY

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 PM on 03/29/2008

Bush and Cheney need to be charged with war crimes. This madness really needs to end already. They don't want democracy. They don't want us over there, and I don't blame them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/28/2008
- MikeDu I'm a Fan of MikeDu 159 fans permalink
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To the right wing admitting a mistake is equivalent to 'losing'. Admiting to having a bad opinion of Bush is letting trade unions and homosexuals and abortionists 'win'. Its pretty much the equivalent to denying existence of God! We can see from the Iraq mess that they're willing to toss their own children into the bloody gaping jaws of war rather than admit to an error.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/28/2008

here is your answer: Voted for Clinton twice

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:30 PM on 03/28/2008
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..... and things are OOHHHHH so much better now, aren't they?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:09 PM on 03/28/2008
- chirps I'm a Fan of chirps 23 fans permalink

Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:03 PM on 03/28/2008
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The Iraq civil war has been intentionally created by the neocons who

have their own Chaos Theory, much like Naomi Klein's Shock Doctrine.

All the mistakes like firing their army, destroying their public services,

and arming all the competing sides, were all done to create chaos so

they could rebuild Iraq in their own corrupt/incompetent fascist image.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 03/28/2008
- TLV I'm a Fan of TLV 126 fans permalink

We can hash and rehash what Bush is up to right now all we want. What it boils down to is this:

When he was running for president he publicly declared he wanted to be a "war president." He and his administration always say exactly what they will do...often by saying the exact opposite but just as often just saying it like it is. We just have to listen better.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:43 PM on 03/28/2008

Bush never said he wanted to be a war president. I have no doubt that he did want it, he never told us about it, until after 9/11. To say we were forewarned, is simply not true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 03/28/2008
- pizzmoe I'm a Fan of pizzmoe 20 fans permalink

Yes, he said it in his"book".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:00 PM on 03/28/2008
- Jeff1958 I'm a Fan of Jeff1958 45 fans permalink
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Bryan Bender, Boston Globe 1/11/04:
"President Bush and his senior aides began plotting the invasion of Iraq just days after he took office in January 2001 and not, as the administration has indicated, after terrorists struck against the United States eight months later, according to former Treasury Secretary Paul O'Neill, who was forced from his post in December 2002."

Russ Baker, gnn.tv 10/28/04:
"He was thinking about invading Iraq in 1999," said author and journalist Mickey Herskowitz. "It was on his mind. He said to me: 'One of the keys to being seen as a great leader is to be seen as a commander-in-chief.' And he said, 'My father had all this political capital built up when he drove the Iraqis out of Kuwait and he wasted it.' He said, 'If I have a chance to invade."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:14 PM on 03/28/2008
- peacekitten I'm a Fan of peacekitten 661 fans permalink
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i would beg to differ with you about being forewarned, my friend. all anybody needed to do to see what sort of monster he would be as president is look at his record of unjust executions in the state of texas, something of which he was enormously proud.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 03/28/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 89 fans permalink
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I am pretty sure I heard W say "Look. Nobody wants to be a war president."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 03/28/2008
- seal62 I'm a Fan of seal62 8 fans permalink
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It was in an interview with Diane Sawyer..his exact words...i'm a war president..I thought i'd crap my pants.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:12 PM on 03/28/2008

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Huh?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 03/28/2008

Yeah..............revising history are we...cmon..........get with reality.....I bet you also believe McCain said he wants a hundred years of war with Iraq...............

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 03/28/2008
- sugarmoes I'm a Fan of sugarmoes 19 fans permalink
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what i want to see on my t.v. today: "breaking news... tanks surrounding the white house... joint chiefs ordering bush to surrender or be taken by force... "

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 03/28/2008
- JimR I'm a Fan of JimR 40 fans permalink

Mr. President, you would be doing all Americans a great service if at this point, you just kept your piehole shut.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 03/28/2008

Would someone please define a "free Iraq?" Obviously the surge isn't working or the place would be placid and lovely. The snakes are out of the bag, now what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:38 PM on 03/28/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Yeah, I agree. After 30 years of brutal dictatorship, and 5 years of WAR, the place should be CAMELOT. What gives? I play John Madden NFL faster than this process. And I can check an infinite number of text messages.........geez, give me a break!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 03/28/2008
- Marlyn I'm a Fan of Marlyn 89 fans permalink
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Free from Saddam?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 03/28/2008
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Free money for the plutocrats.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

Nixon installs Saddam.

Reagan rescues Saddam.

Bush boy installs Maliki.

What about 'history repeating' do they not understand?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 03/28/2008
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Oh the short sighted naiveté/stupidity of the Bushbot - we'd all like to be free from tyrants, it's been a battle cry throughout all of history - if removing a tyrannical ruler is the basis of our foreign policy, then why did we stop with Saddam? There are plenty more that fit the description.

Which brings us back full circle to the paradoxical dilemma that we currently face: what if the supposed savior of repressed peoples the world over is himself a tyrant? To whom do we turn then?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:03 PM on 03/28/2008

Voting........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 03/28/2008

How about not being gassed?????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:28 PM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

I agree. It's shameful that Reagan gave him the poison gas.

What a fool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:06 PM on 03/28/2008

gassed by whom?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:25 PM on 03/28/2008
- Condi I'm a Fan of Condi 3 fans permalink

It's SO much better to be blown up by a car bomb. Idiot.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:30 PM on 03/28/2008

I agree somewhat, i am a republican but Bush should no better to think that he can make these Iraqis like us, it isnt going to happen there religion says they will go to hell if they like us, he should no better but he at least is fighting them its better than obama worring about mistreating these dogs at gitmo.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:41 PM on 03/28/2008
- Oldbuck I'm a Fan of Oldbuck 8 fans permalink
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The fundamental of this situation is we stay one more day or a hundred more years the day we pull out civil wars starts and the Iraqis will determine what to have with the country, being the shite are the larger and stronger of the three groups Sunni and Kurd's. The only way there will ever be peace in this region will be to divide the country in three separate countrys. I f we don't do this Iran and the .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 03/28/2008
- Ron I'm a Fan of Ron 11 fans permalink

War and violence are a byproduct of ignorance, greed , and the lust for power. The republican administrations objective is continued conflicts for corporate welfare, and mega contributions to increase the politions campaigns, and pockets. Personal loss , and destruction will only continue with these policies in place . This president needs reality rehab, which he'll never get, let alone admit he has a problem, along with others in this administration. It takes more of a leader to keep the peace then to start wars and conflicts whenever they have the chance.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 PM on 03/28/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

In your KUMBAYA world, what thriving democracy hasn't experienced war in the last century? Which by our narrow standards is a lifetime...........and we've had 20 centuries so far........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 03/28/2008

So how do you feel about every majior conflict being started by a democrat??? (with the exceptions being Iraq 1&2

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 03/28/2008
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Care to make a list of those, skippy?

Now.... if you had said "every major war being WON by a Democrat", you might be right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 03/28/2008
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You just proved your idiocy...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:53 PM on 03/28/2008
- SonnyBono I'm a Fan of SonnyBono 21 fans permalink

Sounds like you were home-schooled - the facts are as follows:

Vietnam - started by Eisenhower - but in all honesty - its Lyndon Johnson's war.

Korea - the North Koreans invaded the South - we led the UN forces - Truman

World War II - what you overlooked the Pearl Harbor thing? FDR was president and asked Congress to declare war on Japan - Germany and Italy declared war on us. (Notice that FDR did NOT invade Brazil after Pearl Harbor)

World War I - Woodrow Wilson but Germany was conducting unrestricted submarine war on all shipping and even plotting with Mexico to have them attack us.

Spanish American War - Republican - "Remember the Maine" - well like the WMDs, turns out that the Spanish had NOTHING to do with the explosion of the Maine but what the heck, we wanted a war and picked on the only European country that we could beat - besides they had those colonies that we wanted.

I could go on but you obviously don't want to be bothered with facts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:01 PM on 03/28/2008
- sugarmoes I'm a Fan of sugarmoes 19 fans permalink
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bush: "violence necessary part of unnecessary wars... woops... i mean... violencen unnecessary part of necessary wars... woops... i mean... violence necessary part of necessary wars... yeah... that's it..."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/28/2008
- NickOhio I'm a Fan of NickOhio 2 fans permalink

Oh, so we now define "success" as being measured because we are removing a small number of troops from Iraq?

How does that jive with the "violence is a necessary part of (democratic) development", with regards to Basra and the Green Zone??? If we are so successful that we can bring some (small) number of troops home, then how come there is more violence occurring and why are we accepting it?

To be honest, there will be violence in that part of the world, as well as the entire world. It is a fact of life. It doesn't mean we have to accept it, but it surely doesn't mean that we can solve it with more violence by interjecting our military. It's just like adding two negative numbers. It is addition, but it still ends up in the negative column. The only way to introducing non-violence (peace) is through negotiation and education and diplomacy. No carrot and stick approach where the stick is the US military intervening, but one that definitely rewards the move towards peace (and not just saying that we won't intervene).

Work, hope and pray for a Dem to be President in 2009.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/28/2008

Violence was part of the United States development

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 03/28/2008
- isis I'm a Fan of isis 20 fans permalink
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Children who are exposed to violence often become violent. Not a good thing for the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:32 PM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

and more than a few are going to want retribution for their dead relatives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:31 PM on 03/28/2008

Children -- and adults -- exposed to this sort of occupation often become terrists (sic). Not a good thing, etc....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:05 PM on 03/28/2008
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