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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean gestures during an interview with The Associated press, Thursday, March 27, 2008, at DNC Headquarters in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the party's chances of winning the White House in November.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean also said he hopes the Democratic nominee will be determined shortly after the voting ends in early June and that he will encourage the superdelegates who will play a role to make up their minds before the August convention in Denver.

Dean said the charges and countercharges between Clinton and Obama have gotten too personal at times. He declined to say how they have crossed the line, but he said he's made it clear privately when it has happened.

"You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other," he said Thursday during the interview in his office at Democratic National Committee headquarters. "Let the media and the Republicans and the talking heads on cable television attack and carry on, fulminate at the mouth. The supporters should keep their mouths shut about this stuff on both sides because that is harmful to the potential victory of a Democrat."

Superdelegates _ the nearly 800 party and elected officials who can support whomever they choose at the convention, regardless of what happens in the primaries _ should make up their minds before August to avoid a fight at the convention, Dean said.

"There is no point in waiting," he said. The Democratic political organization "is as good or better as the Republicans,' and we haven't been able to say that for about 30 years. But that all doesn't make any difference if people are really disenchanted or demoralized by a convention that's really ugly and nasty."

Dean commented during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview about his leadership during a nominating season that has lasted longer than most expected and that has left the party with some tough issues to resolve. Among them:

_ Florida and Michigan Democrats brazenly violated party rules by holding primaries ahead of schedule and lost their delegates to the convention as punishment. Both states are now demanding that they not be shut out of the decision-making process because of it.

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_ Since neither Clinton nor Obama are likely to secure the nomination with just the delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, the nominee will probably be determined by the superdelegates. That has some activists objecting that insiders could overturn the will of the voters.

_ Dean has raised record amounts of money _ the $51.5 million the DNC brought in in 2007 was a record for a non-election year. And he's spent it, too, on trying to build organizations in the 50 states. Campaign finance reports this month show the party with $4.5 million after accounting for debt, compared with $25 million for the Republican National Committee _ and the Democrats have no nominee to help replenish the coffers.

_ Not to mention that Clinton's and Obama's campaigns spend every day trying to tear each other down _ and are unlikely to stop anytime soon _ while Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the certain Republican nominee, is busy preparing for the general election. Even Dean said he doesn't expect the campaign to end until the last nominating contest is held in June.

Dean, the former governor of Vermont and 2004 presidential candidate, said he knows his critics say he should take a bigger leadership role in resolving some of these disputes. But he said that's not his role. Rather, he thinks of himself as a referee who enforces the rules in a close basketball game.

"Somebody is going to lose," Dean said. "My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner."

But former Michigan Gov. James Blanchard said the DNC has handled the situation badly.

"They have put their rules ahead of common sense, of electing a Democratic president, of the voters in two major states," Blanchard, a Clinton supporter, said during the taping of Michigan public television's "Off the Record" program. "They're treating the rules like they're the U.S. Constitution or the Ten Commandments. They've lost their way."

Dean said the massive numbers of people showing up to participate in Democratic nominating contests across the country gives him encouragement that the eventual nominee will be well-positioned to win the White House.

He said it is good for the candidates to debate controversies like the incendiary sermons by Obama's pastor and Clinton's different accounts of danger on a trip to Bosnia as first lady. If Democrats didn't deal with them now, he said Republicans will surely make use of them in the fall.

Dean also reflected the concerns of many Democrats who worry about Obama and Clinton tearing each other down.

"What I don't want to do is have the Democrats make a stupid mistake in April and then be sorry they said that in October and end up with some more right-wing extremists on the Supreme Court," he said.

Dean's supporters say he's working behind the scenes to resolve some of the issues. He's been consulting with party stalwarts about how to wrap up the nomination quickly after the voting ends in June, including former Vice President Al Gore, former presidential candidate John Edwards, former Sen. George Mitchell, former President Carter, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, civil rights activist Jesse Jackson and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo.

"There'll be some nasty fights if it goes to convention, and people will walk out," Dean said. "But I've also been talking to a fairly significant number of, by and large, nonaligned people about how we might resolve this."

Dean wouldn't talk in detail about what the plan is, but it likely involves encouraging superdelegates to pick a candidate shortly after the voting ends. He said he will not encourage any delegate to vote one way or another.

"I am going to stand up for the rules, and I know I'm doing the right thing most of the time because I've got both Clinton people and Obama people mad at me," he said.

For instance, while Obama's campaign has been encouraging superdelegates to support the candidate with the most pledged delegates _ which almost certainly will be Obama _ Dean says the rules don't require that and superdelegates are free to chose who they want.

On the other side, Clinton has been arguing lately that even pledged delegates _ awarded to a candidate based on the outcome of state contests _ aren't bound to vote for that candidate at the convention. Dean called that "a very technical argument."

"You aren't going to get pledged delegates to move unless something really shocking happens," he said. And he thinks it unlikely the superdelegates would support a candidate who did not have the most pledged delegates.

Dean also said the Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. But he won't force a resolution because he said there's nothing the Obama and Clinton campaigns can support at this point.

"You bring both sides together and say, `Don't you think it's time that the two campaigns made a deal on how we're going to do this?'" Dean said. "Let me just say that the campaigns believe that kind of a deal is premature right now."

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Associated Press Writer Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the pa...
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- jadez I'm a Fan of jadez 3 fans permalink

spineless dean.

its only been the clintons who have made personal attacks.
shortly they will be sent to the dust bin of history.
their legacy in tatters.

President Obama will bring the country together.

hillary can cry for real after she realizes she will be nothing more then a footnote in history.
she did it all to herself.

Obama!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 03/28/2008
- Monrocsol I'm a Fan of Monrocsol 4 fans permalink

Edwards and Obama started the smear campaign on Hillary; right on Television, in a debate.

You guys in the Obama Cult are pathetic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 03/28/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

Please be specific about the "smear campaign" on Hillary started by Edwards and Dean. I don't think questioning her vote to give a man with the emotional makeup of an adolescent boy the power to make war anywhere anytime constitutes "smearing".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 AM on 03/28/2008
- apcalc I'm a Fan of apcalc 2 fans permalink

Obama can't bring the Democratic party together, let alone the whole country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:06 AM on 03/28/2008
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Way to go Dean. Pointing out the obvious. Now grow some balls and knock Hillary out of the race. Most of the BS is coming from her. Her supporters threatening to withhold money to the DNC, threatening Nancy Pelosi, scorched Earth policy, Saying 3 times that McCain is the better choice if she is not the nominee. When you will decide enough is enough from HER?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 03/28/2008
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Everyone is afraid of the Clintons.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 03/28/2008

Dean is making some good points. Let us stop attacking each other; especially here on the Obama Post and talk radio with their non stop Hillary attacks. Give it a rest folks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/28/2008

Yes!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 03/28/2008

You think there may be a reason the HuffPo and talk radio are so hard on Clinton?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 03/28/2008

Fox News is taking constant aim at Obama and Rush Limbaugh is urging his supporters to vote for Hillary Clinton.

I know what you're thinking and let's not.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/28/2008
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Your second sentence is HYPOCRITICAL and contradicts yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:49 AM on 03/28/2008
- Crozier I'm a Fan of Crozier 69 fans permalink

This is proof positive that Howard Dean has always been a member of the DLC wing of the party. He has no cojones, and takes orders from Corporate Dems who have told him NOT to stop this bloodletting for fear of Clintonian retribution. Make no mistake, friends. The fact that Barack Obama has reintroduced amateur citizens into the process usually reserved for professional politician is unsettling. Dean fears that the only Democrats that count are fat cats who get fed when either Clinton or McCain get third terms in office.

This party "unity" is difficult to put together. The real Democrats do not want the Corporate Democrats to continue their stranglehold on the party, and more important, their willingness to assist the NEOCONS in the creation of the global oligarchy and the Corporate domination at home.

It is NOT June, Mr. Dean. That is Bill and Hill and Howard and Mark's agenda to try to fatally wound our real nominee in their scorched earth policy. Bullocks on their voting for McCain. Liberals for years were told to hold our noses and vote for DLC'ers and we have. They will too if they suffer enough. The reformed Dixiecrat turned DLC usually betrays in the long run....witness Zell Miller, former "Democratic" senator from GA who went for Bush at the GOP Convention in 2004 and a repeat performance by Senator Lieberman this year for McCain and his speech at the upcoming GOP Convention.

Grow a set, physician Dean, heal thyself !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/28/2008
- jbatch I'm a Fan of jbatch 42 fans permalink

Uh, clueless one. Dean patented the grass roots fund raising that Obama is using. He may be a lot of things, but DLC he ain't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 03/28/2008
- Crozier I'm a Fan of Crozier 69 fans permalink

Oh clueless one......Dean is NOT a liberal Democrat.....never has been. Please examine his record as VT governor and then tell me again that he is not a conservative moderate.
Yes Fabienne, he was swiftboated by other DLC'ers....especially those who wanted to see Clinton win in 08. This Clinton coronation has been in the works since Bill's first term.

Speak to me about the substance of my arguement about what is happening in this devastating primary season where the loser fails to hang it in and is there solely for the purpose of destroying her opponent and opening her way four years from now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:19 AM on 03/28/2008
- Fabienne I'm a Fan of Fabienne 31 fans permalink

Dean is not DLC and can harbor no good feelings for an organization that did its best to make sure he lost the primaries in 2004. It is necessary for him, as chair of the DNC, to remain neutral. That is his job.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:09 AM on 03/28/2008
- RobBob I'm a Fan of RobBob 7 fans permalink
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Chairman Dean may see his role as a referee, that's one way to look at it. Why then is he allowing so many low blows from both camps? He needs to step in and get this thing settled, and he should be trying to do it before the middle of May at the latest.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/28/2008
- suntzu I'm a Fan of suntzu 16 fans permalink
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Nice to hear from Dean and the need for the supporters to tone down the rhetoric. Maybe he should call should James Carville who called Richardson Judas on Good Friday for endorsing Obama. Or to Bill who suggested that McCain and Hillary are more patriotic than Obama. Or Hillary who said she would never have a pastor like Rev. Wright. Or to Geraldine Ferraro who said Obama only got to where he is because he is black. All personal attacks that have nothing to do with debating the issues. Personal, personal, personal. That is the Clinton style.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 03/28/2008

Obama's campaign and surrogates have used race throughout this campaign and have blamed Bill and Hillary. Ferraro spoke to an obscure newspaper with a small circulation, and suddenly it is all over the MSM. I think the Obama camp has bloodhounds scouring the news to find thinga that can be used as race baiting. They crucified that lady, who is an Icon in the Dem. party. Gutsy because she refused to be labeled as a racist. Look for Ed Randell to be attacked as a racist in the next month for a remark he said about a month ago. It got maybe a one day coverage in the media, but now they have dragged it out and cried racist again because they think it will help in the Pa. primary. When it hits the blogs and MSM....I will address it again., but believe me it will be made into a big deal.

And they will smear and try to destroy another icon in the Democratic party.......anything to win!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 03/29/2008

It is appropriate and wise that Barack Obama, as the winning Democratic candidate, act and continue to act as the winner. He has no need to lower himself to the shenanigans of his opposition. It is sufficient to let them wallow in their insufficiencies while he takes the high road.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:26 AM on 03/28/2008

No posting history. Hmmmmm........

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:35 AM on 03/28/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 30 fans permalink

Typical paranoid clintonite: "everyone's out to get me."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/28/2008
- mouselion I'm a Fan of mouselion 123 fans permalink
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That really means something, in and of itself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:46 AM on 03/28/2008
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i believe he's been doing that from the beginning. She's the one who has been nasty throughout.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 AM on 03/28/2008

Before landing on any Air Force One flight ,Bill Clinton would always return the stewardess to her fully upright and locked position. Dumbya is too busy searching for pretzels in the seat-crack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:25 AM on 03/28/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

Heh. Now that's funny both ways.

See, we can all get along.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 AM on 03/28/2008
- mouselion I'm a Fan of mouselion 123 fans permalink
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Good one! Keep it up!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 03/28/2008
- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

I hope the campaigns are listening to Dean.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 03/28/2008

i agree, both should stick promoting their policies and views, stick to the issues, raise legitimate questions about the other's policies/positions, both with the approach that any democrat is better than McCain!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Perhaps someone from the hrc camp should tell bill and carvell about this new apporach tho

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:23 AM on 03/28/2008
- IkeChicago I'm a Fan of IkeChicago 18 fans permalink

Has Hillary wounded the Dem party enough that they will have no choice but to make her the VP. Nancy Pelosi having come out against it, Hillary now has to make herself indispensable and to be VP, it will be easier to run in 2016. Hillary could now be making it impossible to ignore her VP position.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:22 AM on 03/28/2008

An Obama/Clinton ticket is SUCH a bad idea though. I mean on so many levels, and it's not going to appease anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:29 AM on 03/28/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 30 fans permalink

please explain

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:44 AM on 03/28/2008

Ooh! The trust factor with Hillary is a little much to handle. Can't support! Too many excellent prospects!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 03/28/2008
- bluesnot I'm a Fan of bluesnot 13 fans permalink

Three's a crowd.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:32 AM on 03/28/2008
- Bluesue I'm a Fan of Bluesue 27 fans permalink

I cannot imagine Obama being saddled with Hillary as VP. She would make every attempt to be seen as the de facto president and would undermine at every chance. I don't trust that mutant ambition gene she has

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 03/28/2008
- apcalc I'm a Fan of apcalc 2 fans permalink

It's Obama who is a drag on the ticket in places we need like
Ohio, Pennsylvania, Florida, and Michigan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 AM on 03/28/2008

Anyone powerful serving as VP may be tempted to claim all of the positive accomplishments of the President as her/his doing, and all the bad ideas and setbacks as the President's idea. That does not make for good, effective government.

http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/clintonwithdrawnow/

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 03/28/2008
- Crozier I'm a Fan of Crozier 69 fans permalink

The vice presidential office in the Old Executive Office Building or at the Capitol is NOT what Bill or Hill want to co-resident. That has always been the canard since 1992, when " a twofer" was introduced and now re-introduced as we must believe that the position of First Lady is Co-President.

Many Clinton DLC guys who had difficulty with a woman in the Oval Office were always assuaged with the knowledge that Bill was in the Family Quarters baking cookies like Tammy Wynette when his turn for her to be heir and he the spare.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:40 AM on 03/28/2008

Hillary as VP?? With Bubba roaming 'round the WH itching for a scratch??? The Secret Service wouldn't be enough, Obama would need a food taster ... indefinitely.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 03/28/2008
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OMG! I didn't even think of that. That's true, they'd probably be trying to knock him off every day. ha ha ha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:49 AM on 03/28/2008
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