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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean gestures during an interview with The Associated press, Thursday, March 27, 2008, at DNC Headquarters in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the party's chances of winning the White House in November.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean also said he hopes the Democratic nominee will be determined shortly after the voting ends in early June and that he will encourage the superdelegates who will play a role to make up their minds before the August convention in Denver.

Dean said the charges and countercharges between Clinton and Obama have gotten too personal at times. He declined to say how they have crossed the line, but he said he's made it clear privately when it has happened.

"You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other," he said Thursday during the interview in his office at Democratic National Committee headquarters. "Let the media and the Republicans and the talking heads on cable television attack and carry on, fulminate at the mouth. The supporters should keep their mouths shut about this stuff on both sides because that is harmful to the potential victory of a Democrat."

Superdelegates _ the nearly 800 party and elected officials who can support whomever they choose at the convention, regardless of what happens in the primaries _ should make up their minds before August to avoid a fight at the convention, Dean said.

"There is no point in waiting," he said. The Democratic political organization "is as good or better as the Republicans,' and we haven't been able to say that for about 30 years. But that all doesn't make any difference if people are really disenchanted or demoralized by a convention that's really ugly and nasty."

Dean commented during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview about his leadership during a nominating season that has lasted longer than most expected and that has left the party with some tough issues to resolve. Among them:

_ Florida and Michigan Democrats brazenly violated party rules by holding primaries ahead of schedule and lost their delegates to the convention as punishment. Both states are now demanding that they not be shut out of the decision-making process because of it.

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_ Since neither Clinton nor Obama are likely to secure the nomination with just the delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, the nominee will probably be determined by the superdelegates. That has some activists objecting that insiders could overturn the will of the voters.

_ Dean has raised record amounts of money _ the $51.5 million the DNC brought in in 2007 was a record for a non-election year. And he's spent it, too, on trying to build organizations in the 50 states. Campaign finance reports this month show the party with $4.5 million after accounting for debt, compared with $25 million for the Republican National Committee _ and the Democrats have no nominee to help replenish the coffers.

_ Not to mention that Clinton's and Obama's campaigns spend every day trying to tear each other down _ and are unlikely to stop anytime soon _ while Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the certain Republican nominee, is busy preparing for the general election. Even Dean said he doesn't expect the campaign to end until the last nominating contest is held in June.

Dean, the former governor of Vermont and 2004 presidential candidate, said he knows his critics say he should take a bigger leadership role in resolving some of these disputes. But he said that's not his role. Rather, he thinks of himself as a referee who enforces the rules in a close basketball game.

"Somebody is going to lose," Dean said. "My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner."

But former Michigan Gov. James Blanchard said the DNC has handled the situation badly.

"They have put their rules ahead of common sense, of electing a Democratic president, of the voters in two major states," Blanchard, a Clinton supporter, said during the taping of Michigan public television's "Off the Record" program. "They're treating the rules like they're the U.S. Constitution or the Ten Commandments. They've lost their way."

Dean said the massive numbers of people showing up to participate in Democratic nominating contests across the country gives him encouragement that the eventual nominee will be well-positioned to win the White House.

He said it is good for the candidates to debate controversies like the incendiary sermons by Obama's pastor and Clinton's different accounts of danger on a trip to Bosnia as first lady. If Democrats didn't deal with them now, he said Republicans will surely make use of them in the fall.

Dean also reflected the concerns of many Democrats who worry about Obama and Clinton tearing each other down.

"What I don't want to do is have the Democrats make a stupid mistake in April and then be sorry they said that in October and end up with some more right-wing extremists on the Supreme Court," he said.

Dean's supporters say he's working behind the scenes to resolve some of the issues. He's been consulting with party stalwarts about how to wrap up the nomination quickly after the voting ends in June, including former Vice President Al Gore, former presidential candidate John Edwards, former Sen. George Mitchell, former President Carter, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, civil rights activist Jesse Jackson and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo.

"There'll be some nasty fights if it goes to convention, and people will walk out," Dean said. "But I've also been talking to a fairly significant number of, by and large, nonaligned people about how we might resolve this."

Dean wouldn't talk in detail about what the plan is, but it likely involves encouraging superdelegates to pick a candidate shortly after the voting ends. He said he will not encourage any delegate to vote one way or another.

"I am going to stand up for the rules, and I know I'm doing the right thing most of the time because I've got both Clinton people and Obama people mad at me," he said.

For instance, while Obama's campaign has been encouraging superdelegates to support the candidate with the most pledged delegates _ which almost certainly will be Obama _ Dean says the rules don't require that and superdelegates are free to chose who they want.

On the other side, Clinton has been arguing lately that even pledged delegates _ awarded to a candidate based on the outcome of state contests _ aren't bound to vote for that candidate at the convention. Dean called that "a very technical argument."

"You aren't going to get pledged delegates to move unless something really shocking happens," he said. And he thinks it unlikely the superdelegates would support a candidate who did not have the most pledged delegates.

Dean also said the Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. But he won't force a resolution because he said there's nothing the Obama and Clinton campaigns can support at this point.

"You bring both sides together and say, `Don't you think it's time that the two campaigns made a deal on how we're going to do this?'" Dean said. "Let me just say that the campaigns believe that kind of a deal is premature right now."

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Associated Press Writer Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the pa...
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- Semper I'm a Fan of Semper 4 fans permalink

You know when Ron Brown was the Chairman of the DNC, he was very good. He keep all the Democrats in line. When Clinton was running, he shut down the Brown from Callifornia who reminds me of Hillary. He set the tone and was not afraid of anyone. Unfortunatey he died in an air plane cash serving his country. Mr Dean is very weak. He supported Hillary but like many others the Obama factor was a surprise to many. I just wishec he had a spine. And to think he ran for President.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:19 PM on 03/28/2008
- BlueBoomer I'm a Fan of BlueBoomer 28 fans permalink

Howard Dean was a terrible choice to run the DNC... I knew when he was named, and he's proving it now.

How many ways did he screw up?:

He didn't hold the media's feet to the fire about their biased handling of the debates, directing, even in the earliest ones, significantly more questions and devoting significantly more air/face time to Hillary and Obama (and Edwards), to the virtual exclusion of the MOST QUALIFIED candidates like Joe BIDEN and Chris Dodd, and the most different-thinking" like Dennis Kuchinich.­.. The media controlled this primary and its results, and he and the DNC let it.

He could have told Michigan/Florida that they could hold their primaries any time they wanted, BUT that their votes would not be RELEASED/COUNTED (in the national totals) until their original date. (And, isn't it ironic that the states with the later dates ARE playing a big role...ASS­UMING Dean doesn't force a brokered deal before June 3rd, that is.)

What a loser.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:10 PM on 03/28/2008
- bikerdude I'm a Fan of bikerdude 70 fans permalink
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Howie Dean has been a divisive and ineffective leader of the Democratic Party. He is doing to our party what he did to his own campaign.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:53 PM on 03/28/2008
- Steamboater I'm a Fan of Steamboater 183 fans permalink
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This whole democratic primary is a mess. I just wish no matter who wins the dem nominee is backed by everyone. It's not worth it to be spiteful and not vote or vote for McCAin. McCain would be a worse disaster than any of the dems fighting this out now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:46 PM on 03/28/2008

Steamboater is right. We have to prepare for the worst and hope for the best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:49 PM on 03/28/2008

OK, let's all be nice to each other.
OK.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 PM on 03/28/2008

1. Who cares what this "privileged", "rich white man" Dean says. He along with legislators from those states screwed up Michigan and Florida which Hillary would clearly win and become the front-runner, he refuses to find a solution for these two important states which will count in Novemeber.

2. Who started this "fire that always burnin' since the world was turnin'? Obama "re-ignited" it with his IMPASTOR-Wright!

3. IMPASTOR WRIGHT is OBAMA'S KARL ROVE, THAT is "A PO' BLACK MAN" IN DISGUISE AS A "RICH WHITE PEOPLE"! (from Dec. of 2007 hate sermon video).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 PM on 03/28/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Somewhere the Obama inner circle has a list of all the 'revelations' that could possible come out about Obama. They have the complete list of Rev. Wright utterances for example and Obama had been preparing the speech he gave on race for a long time only modifying specifics based on what had come out in the public. There are other things other than the Rev. Wright stuff. Who has gathered it outside the Obama camp. The Clintons, Republicans, Fox News ala Sean Hannity? Are there channels where the info is being shared? Hannity over a week ago said there is alot more coming out. A few days later, the 2nd wave of Rev. Wright info. Perhaps the Clintons after all the primaries are over will present what they have behind closed doors to Dem party leaders and say OK this is what Republicans will be coming out with on Obama. We, the general public obviously are privy to it until it becomes public. Perhaps this info is what is keeping the Clintons in the race.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 03/28/2008
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Chairman Dean,

I'm glad to see you weighing in here, but I think it is a mistake to whitewash the Clinton fear and smear tactics by pretending there is some sort of moral equivalency here for the sake of keeping the peace. Whether intentional or not, you are providing cover for Clinton behavior by pretending Obama is somehow complicit in this, and that is simply not accurate. It's like trying to keep peace with a tyrant in the house by pretending everybody has been behaving badly, its just not going to get the desired result. It would be far better to address the elephant in the room.

We need to recognize that a lie is not "just another point of view" to be weighed equally with the truth, it's a lie, plain and simple. The democratic party I want to be associated with, will recognize this and deal with it.

Though still somewhat out of balance, your point has some traction about the rhetoric being thrown around by supporters. Whether it is disinformation or agitation, we need not to take the bait, but should answer these posts with calm, talking to the person behind the posts, and not simply responding to the rhetoric. And ultimately, we should all do our own research so we don't fall prey to it. We would all be well served by that summary behavior.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 03/28/2008
- wolfi101 I'm a Fan of wolfi101 4 fans permalink

There is a way for Democrats to unite the party and send a strong message to the superdelegates to rally ---- they need to vote for the person, who is already ahead (in states, popular votes, and delegates). They need to vote for Obama.

Voting for the runner up will only prolong the feud.

Pennsylvanians - you can do this. Don't vote for the person, who gave you NAFTA and fills her message with empty promises. Vote for the guy who is already changing the face of politics. Vote Obama.

We New Yorkers screwed up. We gave her a platform. Please don't make our mistake.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 03/28/2008
- nick1936 I'm a Fan of nick1936 17 fans permalink

Let's take a look at the States Obama has won most of them will support the Senile Old man come November so what if he won Mississippi it will go Repuk in the fall the same with Iowa and Idaho. Why the Dem's keep letting Iowa go first and determine their winner is beyond me after all Iowa gave us Gore and the wimp Kerry and what did that get us the CHIMP

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:59 AM on 03/29/2008
- ruscle I'm a Fan of ruscle 2 fans permalink

It weakens the leadership of the democratic party to treat the campaigns of Obama and Clinton as being the same when they are clearly not. Clinton's been running a smear campaign against Obama (as far as I know, Endorsing McCain, Bill implying Obama doesn't love his country, etc.). Obama has been questioning Hillary's judgement. Which is a valid point.

Acting like these two camps need to change their tactics when only one does is a disservice to the party. It makes the leaders look ignorant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 03/28/2008
- cowman I'm a Fan of cowman 6 fans permalink

True but to clearly single out a single campaign would be seen as taking sides which Dean and Pelosi simply cannot do by virtue of their position. Dodd and Leahy on the other hand are more free to speak their minds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:24 PM on 03/28/2008
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They can set a standard of behavior of what are and are not acceptable modes of campaign behavior, and then cite a candidate who resorts to them. This would give some objectivity to the process and provide a means for it to be monitored, with bad behavior being identified as such by the party as moderator. If everybody understands what the bad behavior is, then it can be identified and labeled. The problem is, no one within the party has identified what is acceptable and what is not, leading to a free-for-all.

This could be a problem in the gneral of course, because the republicans will use every ugly technique imaginable. So democrats would have to go on a campaign of educating the entire American public, including republicans, on disinformation and propaganda and how it works, in order to save our union from the grip of the unscrupulous.

Here is two places to start to identify and define bad campaign behavior:

http://library.thinkquest.org/C0111500/proptech.htm

http://www.sourcewatch.org/index.php?title=Propaganda_techniques

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:42 PM on 03/28/2008

Yes, it's time for the media and other intelligent souls in Congress to more clearly place blame on the Clintons for slinging the first handful of dirt. Obama is only doing what Kerry neglected to do in 2004.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 03/28/2008
- Plank I'm a Fan of Plank 5 fans permalink

I think they know that and, they should be able to take a stand in June. This is one of those games where one team is down 100 points and only 3 minutes left. If you stop it now, Hillary will be playing the victim forever. Nobody wants to see that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 03/28/2008

Barrack Obama is known as the clean fighting all american candidate who doesn't know the meaning of dirty tactics. To be known as that, he must be pretty tricky. Bill and Hillary Clinton have worked for civil rights from their college days and all through their entire adult life. In a few short months of campaigning, Obama has gotten them labelled as racists. He did this by twisting their statements to be racists. When Hillary said that LBJ passed the civil rights bill in 1964, Obama made people believe she was dissing Dr King. Nothing coulld be further from the truth. LBJ worked hard to get that bill passed. Does anybody believe it would have passed if Nixon, Ford , Carter, Reagen or Bush had been president,? Would we even have had a civil rights bill? Hillary Clinton has had strong support from Rep. Lewis, and Julian Bond. Both these men were on the front lines with Dr King. They know where the Clintons stood on civil and human rights.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/28/2008
- Denemator I'm a Fan of Denemator 17 fans permalink
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CNN asked in a non scientific poll if this fight will hurt the democratic party's chances in November. I think that no democrats want to see a continuation of this disastrous gop administration. The only thing tha is hurting is the propensity of the MSM's to blow everything out of proportion and giving this senile old codger a pass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/28/2008

This is amazing to me. We have longed for an end to the incompetent, often corrupt, radical Presidency now in office for years. But, now when the end is near, when it is possible that not only can this end, but we could start fresh with a new powerful voice issuing from the bully pulpit, some Democrats in their anger that their candidate is not winning are throwing dirt at the candidate who is winning and some Democrats are threatening that if we do not capitulate and hand the candidate who has not run a very good campaign the nomination they will take their toys and go home or join the opposition. Let me get this straight -- the chance to start fresh is less important to some of you than a particular politician? This is beyond comprehension. Why aren't you ecstatic that Senator Obama is such an excellent campaigner that he has all but defeated one of the best Democratic political families? Perhaps the oddest claim is the allegation that the Republicans will get Senator Obama -- well, folks, if this is true, they will certainly get Senator Clinton since she has been unable to beat the guy you think is so weak-- if Senator Obama is really such a weak candidate, what does this make Senator Clinton? Please think, that is all I request.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 PM on 03/28/2008
- mach I'm a Fan of mach 12 fans permalink

I guarantee that the head of the Green party has never told a candidates supporters to keep their mouths shut.

Isnt he speaking to all of you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 03/28/2008
- boombox I'm a Fan of boombox 8 fans permalink

No, I think he's pretty much talking to himself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:56 PM on 03/28/2008
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Hillary needs to accept her Senate leadership role while it is still there for her.

She and Bill are starting to sound daily more like J. Lieberman Independents!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:28 PM on 03/28/2008
- wolfi101 I'm a Fan of wolfi101 4 fans permalink

I suspect, there is growing resentment at Hillary within New York and many who are looking for a replacement. (Any takers?)

Just an observation from one such New Yorker.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:58 PM on 03/28/2008
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If she stopped now and promised to campaign for Barack,

help end the war and work for progressive goals including

universal health care, deBushification and populism over

the corruption of corporatism, and actually followed through,

I'd be very happy to forgive her and most Dems would too.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:33 PM on 03/28/2008
- boombox I'm a Fan of boombox 8 fans permalink

I think she'll have a more interesting trip if she runs for reelection to the Senate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:57 PM on 03/28/2008
- bikerdude I'm a Fan of bikerdude 70 fans permalink
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Fishing for a response? Your suspicions are based on what? From all I can tell she has been doring a great for her New York constituients.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:02 PM on 03/28/2008

You sure are right about that .They do sound like like Joe.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:36 PM on 03/28/2008
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Thus, she's become a fixture on FOX News [sic].

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 PM on 03/28/2008
- Chandidevi I'm a Fan of Chandidevi 25 fans permalink

Dean is too gentle! His political correctness will get him nowhere. Hey Howie - get out there and fight for your party like a man!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 03/28/2008
- cowman I'm a Fan of cowman 6 fans permalink

He would if his position as head of the DNC didn't tie his hands in that regard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:25 PM on 03/28/2008

It is possible that Dean lost his ability to be spontaneous after he uttered that strange apocolyptic
scream, 'member?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/28/2008

ROOOOWWWWW­WWWWCHHHHH­HHHHHHHHH!
Yes, that was the sound coming from Dean, Well, Dean should make more sounds.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:42 PM on 03/28/2008

God how could anyone forget. EEEEYOWWWWWWWWW!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:57 PM on 03/28/2008
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