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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean gestures during an interview with The Associated press, Thursday, March 27, 2008, at DNC Headquarters in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the party's chances of winning the White House in November.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean also said he hopes the Democratic nominee will be determined shortly after the voting ends in early June and that he will encourage the superdelegates who will play a role to make up their minds before the August convention in Denver.

Dean said the charges and countercharges between Clinton and Obama have gotten too personal at times. He declined to say how they have crossed the line, but he said he's made it clear privately when it has happened.

"You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other," he said Thursday during the interview in his office at Democratic National Committee headquarters. "Let the media and the Republicans and the talking heads on cable television attack and carry on, fulminate at the mouth. The supporters should keep their mouths shut about this stuff on both sides because that is harmful to the potential victory of a Democrat."

Superdelegates _ the nearly 800 party and elected officials who can support whomever they choose at the convention, regardless of what happens in the primaries _ should make up their minds before August to avoid a fight at the convention, Dean said.

"There is no point in waiting," he said. The Democratic political organization "is as good or better as the Republicans,' and we haven't been able to say that for about 30 years. But that all doesn't make any difference if people are really disenchanted or demoralized by a convention that's really ugly and nasty."

Dean commented during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview about his leadership during a nominating season that has lasted longer than most expected and that has left the party with some tough issues to resolve. Among them:

_ Florida and Michigan Democrats brazenly violated party rules by holding primaries ahead of schedule and lost their delegates to the convention as punishment. Both states are now demanding that they not be shut out of the decision-making process because of it.

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_ Since neither Clinton nor Obama are likely to secure the nomination with just the delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, the nominee will probably be determined by the superdelegates. That has some activists objecting that insiders could overturn the will of the voters.

_ Dean has raised record amounts of money _ the $51.5 million the DNC brought in in 2007 was a record for a non-election year. And he's spent it, too, on trying to build organizations in the 50 states. Campaign finance reports this month show the party with $4.5 million after accounting for debt, compared with $25 million for the Republican National Committee _ and the Democrats have no nominee to help replenish the coffers.

_ Not to mention that Clinton's and Obama's campaigns spend every day trying to tear each other down _ and are unlikely to stop anytime soon _ while Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the certain Republican nominee, is busy preparing for the general election. Even Dean said he doesn't expect the campaign to end until the last nominating contest is held in June.

Dean, the former governor of Vermont and 2004 presidential candidate, said he knows his critics say he should take a bigger leadership role in resolving some of these disputes. But he said that's not his role. Rather, he thinks of himself as a referee who enforces the rules in a close basketball game.

"Somebody is going to lose," Dean said. "My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner."

But former Michigan Gov. James Blanchard said the DNC has handled the situation badly.

"They have put their rules ahead of common sense, of electing a Democratic president, of the voters in two major states," Blanchard, a Clinton supporter, said during the taping of Michigan public television's "Off the Record" program. "They're treating the rules like they're the U.S. Constitution or the Ten Commandments. They've lost their way."

Dean said the massive numbers of people showing up to participate in Democratic nominating contests across the country gives him encouragement that the eventual nominee will be well-positioned to win the White House.

He said it is good for the candidates to debate controversies like the incendiary sermons by Obama's pastor and Clinton's different accounts of danger on a trip to Bosnia as first lady. If Democrats didn't deal with them now, he said Republicans will surely make use of them in the fall.

Dean also reflected the concerns of many Democrats who worry about Obama and Clinton tearing each other down.

"What I don't want to do is have the Democrats make a stupid mistake in April and then be sorry they said that in October and end up with some more right-wing extremists on the Supreme Court," he said.

Dean's supporters say he's working behind the scenes to resolve some of the issues. He's been consulting with party stalwarts about how to wrap up the nomination quickly after the voting ends in June, including former Vice President Al Gore, former presidential candidate John Edwards, former Sen. George Mitchell, former President Carter, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, civil rights activist Jesse Jackson and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo.

"There'll be some nasty fights if it goes to convention, and people will walk out," Dean said. "But I've also been talking to a fairly significant number of, by and large, nonaligned people about how we might resolve this."

Dean wouldn't talk in detail about what the plan is, but it likely involves encouraging superdelegates to pick a candidate shortly after the voting ends. He said he will not encourage any delegate to vote one way or another.

"I am going to stand up for the rules, and I know I'm doing the right thing most of the time because I've got both Clinton people and Obama people mad at me," he said.

For instance, while Obama's campaign has been encouraging superdelegates to support the candidate with the most pledged delegates _ which almost certainly will be Obama _ Dean says the rules don't require that and superdelegates are free to chose who they want.

On the other side, Clinton has been arguing lately that even pledged delegates _ awarded to a candidate based on the outcome of state contests _ aren't bound to vote for that candidate at the convention. Dean called that "a very technical argument."

"You aren't going to get pledged delegates to move unless something really shocking happens," he said. And he thinks it unlikely the superdelegates would support a candidate who did not have the most pledged delegates.

Dean also said the Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. But he won't force a resolution because he said there's nothing the Obama and Clinton campaigns can support at this point.

"You bring both sides together and say, `Don't you think it's time that the two campaigns made a deal on how we're going to do this?'" Dean said. "Let me just say that the campaigns believe that kind of a deal is premature right now."

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Associated Press Writer Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the pa...
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- cwcrosby42 I'm a Fan of cwcrosby42 3 fans permalink

Okay. I am an Obama backer. I got that way because my guy dropped out, and I didn't believe that Clinton could win. Not only that, but she will give McBush coat tails, causing losses to many other deserving Democrats.

Now, I am fairly certain that neither candidate will win. I blame Dean for this.

Why?

He is the titular leader of the Party. He should have taken the two candidates into a room with the Super Delegates and not let them out until the had an agreement. Either to back off from personal attacks, decide which one falls on his/her sword for the good of the Party, or to nominate 'none of the above.'

Even now, he should say, a pox on both their houses, and call on the Super Dupers to nominate another candidate - one who could unite the party and win in November. Say Gore, or Edwards.

Just my thoughts on this, since it seems it may be too late for both of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 03/28/2008
- MNDADDY I'm a Fan of MNDADDY 2 fans permalink

"Florida and Michigan Democrats brazenly violated party rules by holding primaries ahead of schedule and lost their delegates to the convention as punishment. Both states are now demanding that they not be shut out of the decision-making process because of it."

Is this Obama spin or a flat out lie? Florida democrats had nothing to with violating party rules, Florida republicans did. And florida republicans, will take the state because Obama is afraid to let florida speak.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:06 PM on 03/28/2008
- knerd I'm a Fan of knerd 20 fans permalink
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Hey, Howard! What prevents you from listing the specific attacks from the candidates that upset you so?

Could it be that the evidence trail would defintely be pointing to only one of the Democratic candidates?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:03 PM on 03/28/2008

[Could it be that the evidence trail would defintely be pointing to only one of the Democratic candidates?]

This evidence trail you speak of is the only way to really 'vet' candidates. And sadly, Hillarys' trail has been a big disappointing all along the way of this campaign from start to finish. And she is finished.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:27 PM on 03/28/2008
- mach I'm a Fan of mach 12 fans permalink

The quote of the year: "The supporters should keep their mouths shut "

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 03/28/2008

They would if the "elders" opened theirs

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:35 PM on 03/28/2008
- GLBorchert I'm a Fan of GLBorchert 2 fans permalink

Even on my kindest days I have to ask myself whether or not my blood pressure could handle four years of Hillary's talking head everywhere I turned. Also, what does a First Gentleman do? Oh, I get it. Bill will host various ceremonies and state functions and will play host to the spouses (wives) of visiting dignitaries. He'll have the girls in for tea, and might even get a shot at supervising the White House maidstaff and kitchen. With all those women on his calendar and Hillary working 24/7, no wonder he wants the job so badly.

But, we will try to be nice Howard. If you insist.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:52 PM on 03/28/2008
- Wanjiru I'm a Fan of Wanjiru 13 fans permalink
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...where has Howard Dean been?...wh­ere has the leadership of the Democratic party been all this time?...

...well, too late, HRC has very effectively succeeded in destroying the Party, while its leaders sat quietly on the sidelines and watched...

...ugh...

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:51 PM on 03/28/2008

This Democratic Party nomination process has sure turned me off. I am 38 years old and have always been excited about, and voted for my Democratic candidates for president. I support Hillary , but I don't think her as the nominee would be a landslide win for the democrats. The way this country has been destroyed by the republicans there is no way the Dems should ever lose. I don't think I will be voting in the election if Obama is the nominee. His "God Damn America " preacher/ role model is a deal breaker for me. I heard enough of that guys rants to make me never vote for Obama. Anyone who listens to him for 20 years, gets married by him, and has their kids listen to his B.S. has extremely bad judgement. PLEASE HOWARD DEAN GET AL GORE!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:41 PM on 03/28/2008
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You watch a lot of Fox I presume.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:53 PM on 03/28/2008

No actually I despise Fox News. I am a Democrat that does not like Obama as the nominee.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:58 PM on 03/28/2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 03/28/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 492 fans permalink
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Don't you ever wonder why, out of TWENTY YEARS of sermons, the media has only been able to splice out three minutes of "offensive" material? Have you heard the entire 911 speech? You have been masterfully manipulated, and you don't even know it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 03/28/2008

Then so will the rest of America come November when the republicans will use it in everyone of their attack ads....And to think, you believe Hillary is playing rough. You have no idea.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 03/28/2008

sort of like when we saw Dubya sitting with the children while the plane flew into the tower.
amazing how many things happen to a society while inundated with more important things

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 PM on 03/28/2008

You know this Country has been "destroyed" in the last 7+ years, but you "don't think" you will "be voting in the election if Obama is the nominee" because of his retired pastor? I suggest you check out Senator Obama's book "Dreams of My Father" from the library. If at the end of reading this deeply autobiographical book, you still feel the same way then go ahead and stay home. Of course, staying home on election day is a tacit acceptance of another 4 years of a Republican Presidency, 2-4 very-conservative Supreme Court justices, no end in sight for the war in Iraq and no end in sight for a fiscal house in great disorder. Senator McCain might stop earmarks, but he wants even more tax cuts for the wealthy and big corporations-- and earmarks are a very tiny fraction of the overall budget -- his Presidency will leave us in greater debt than we were before (assuming Senator McCain gets his additional tax cuts). But, it is of course, your choice and thank Goodness we are all lucky enough to live in a Country where we can choose who to vote for and no-one can tell us we MUST change our vote.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:15 PM on 03/28/2008
- JimArcata I'm a Fan of JimArcata 4 fans permalink
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I have thought a lot about this also... We must vote in the democrate whoever he or sho is.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:25 PM on 03/28/2008

Exactly. As they say, we get the government we deserve, but some folks deserve it so much more. C'mon, people, use the noodle.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:45 PM on 03/28/2008
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 03/28/2008
- GravitonX I'm a Fan of GravitonX 55 fans permalink
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Howard Dean wants to avoid Hillary making a big scene at the convention and dragging the drama beyond the convention, which would and should bring reasonable closure to the Democratic Nomination race.. The lack of professionalism and decorum from Hillary's campaign has evolved into a persistent distraction from the strategic objectives of the Party. He sees this and wants to get us back on course.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:33 PM on 03/28/2008

I think the saddest part of all this is Bill Clinton.
Man I used to think of him as a super star, I even got into heated arguments with pals, defending him, and even went as far as understanding the demons that hound him as far as women go. Bill could do no wrong - he could empathise and connect with people.

But, Hilary decided it was time for payback and run for the Presidency.

Bill's legacy, his charm, all that was "special" about has evaporated and what we have left is a mean talking, sour tempered, finger wagging hubby trying to bully superdelegates into backing his wife.

Not pretty, pitiful

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 03/28/2008

Payback's a bitch trying to make up for Monica

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:52 PM on 03/28/2008
- G24 I'm a Fan of G24 permalink

I have heard threat from some Hillary supporters of leaving and starting a new party. Can you guys maybe do that now please?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

zzzzzzzzzzz

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:37 PM on 03/28/2008
- DavidK08 I'm a Fan of DavidK08 8 fans permalink

Obama could do that. HRC couldn't.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 03/28/2008

Are you really now satisfied with that idea? You really want that, right? Do you want a nominee , or a president? I believe Hillary is going to lose this nomination, ultimately.
So what kind of WINNER are you, as an Obama supporter? Where did anyone tell you that politics isn't a fight? When the fight is over, you shake hands.

I can't wait for Hillary to concede. With her millions of supporters.

If I was you all, I'd start the handshaking, and less the taunting. Unless, of course, you as Obama supporters plan on electing a President on your own...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 03/28/2008
- strifeknot I'm a Fan of strifeknot 14 fans permalink

There's already a party with values more in tune with theirs: the GOP.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:39 PM on 03/28/2008

Would you want to party with Hillary? Not me brother...­..

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:53 PM on 03/28/2008

Fact: Clinton is a bald faced liar. Is that too personal?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 03/28/2008

Then why cant people also say that Obama is infiltrating the govt to promote his muslim agenda. People will believe anything you tell them, thats why people lie so much. If you think Obama is going to end this type of politics, then I would love to have the amazing drug you're taking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:12 PM on 03/28/2008
- cowman I'm a Fan of cowman 6 fans permalink

Not when she lies in the public domain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:19 PM on 03/28/2008
- neocon43 I'm a Fan of neocon43 29 fans permalink

As does Obama.He has lied countless times and nobody believes him now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:38 PM on 03/28/2008
- williamg I'm a Fan of williamg 251 fans permalink
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The wheels are beginning to come off the Clinton campaign. I bet that a super-delegate will migrate to the Obama camp each day. Who knows how much money she has left. Each and every one of her spokespeople do nothing but try to spin, spin, spin. It is so unappealing to the voters - which explains her 37% approval rating. That isn't quite Bush approval rating, but it is suprisingly close.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:25 PM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

Looks like the republicans are still pissed that the Dean strategy killed their 12 year congressional party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:18 PM on 03/28/2008
- Mike O. I'm a Fan of Mike O. 9 fans permalink

Yeah because the dem controlled congress has been so effective. Sometimes the independents just need a little reminder of just how incompetent the dems really are. There will be a Repub congress and President come November.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:30 AM on 03/29/2008

It's way too late to heal the damage done between the Obama and Clinton campaigns, Dems go down in flames again.

http://strictlyanecdotal.com/2008/03/25/democratic-voters-in-florida-remind-me-of-a-rabbit-i-was-hit-with-my-car.aspx

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 03/28/2008

Utter nonsense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 03/28/2008
- SCG I'm a Fan of SCG 111 fans permalink
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I don't know? But what I do know is, if anyone thinks Hillary will leave this race with graciousness. Was engaging in the same wishful thinking I was. The Clinton's have shown themselves devoid of class, and certainly shame.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:26 PM on 03/28/2008
- mach I'm a Fan of mach 12 fans permalink

Take Deans advice, keep your mouth shut

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:05 PM on 03/28/2008
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