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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean gestures during an interview with The Associated press, Thursday, March 27, 2008, at DNC Headquarters in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the party's chances of winning the White House in November.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean also said he hopes the Democratic nominee will be determined shortly after the voting ends in early June and that he will encourage the superdelegates who will play a role to make up their minds before the August convention in Denver.

Dean said the charges and countercharges between Clinton and Obama have gotten too personal at times. He declined to say how they have crossed the line, but he said he's made it clear privately when it has happened.

"You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other," he said Thursday during the interview in his office at Democratic National Committee headquarters. "Let the media and the Republicans and the talking heads on cable television attack and carry on, fulminate at the mouth. The supporters should keep their mouths shut about this stuff on both sides because that is harmful to the potential victory of a Democrat."

Superdelegates _ the nearly 800 party and elected officials who can support whomever they choose at the convention, regardless of what happens in the primaries _ should make up their minds before August to avoid a fight at the convention, Dean said.

"There is no point in waiting," he said. The Democratic political organization "is as good or better as the Republicans,' and we haven't been able to say that for about 30 years. But that all doesn't make any difference if people are really disenchanted or demoralized by a convention that's really ugly and nasty."

Dean commented during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview about his leadership during a nominating season that has lasted longer than most expected and that has left the party with some tough issues to resolve. Among them:

_ Florida and Michigan Democrats brazenly violated party rules by holding primaries ahead of schedule and lost their delegates to the convention as punishment. Both states are now demanding that they not be shut out of the decision-making process because of it.

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_ Since neither Clinton nor Obama are likely to secure the nomination with just the delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, the nominee will probably be determined by the superdelegates. That has some activists objecting that insiders could overturn the will of the voters.

_ Dean has raised record amounts of money _ the $51.5 million the DNC brought in in 2007 was a record for a non-election year. And he's spent it, too, on trying to build organizations in the 50 states. Campaign finance reports this month show the party with $4.5 million after accounting for debt, compared with $25 million for the Republican National Committee _ and the Democrats have no nominee to help replenish the coffers.

_ Not to mention that Clinton's and Obama's campaigns spend every day trying to tear each other down _ and are unlikely to stop anytime soon _ while Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the certain Republican nominee, is busy preparing for the general election. Even Dean said he doesn't expect the campaign to end until the last nominating contest is held in June.

Dean, the former governor of Vermont and 2004 presidential candidate, said he knows his critics say he should take a bigger leadership role in resolving some of these disputes. But he said that's not his role. Rather, he thinks of himself as a referee who enforces the rules in a close basketball game.

"Somebody is going to lose," Dean said. "My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner."

But former Michigan Gov. James Blanchard said the DNC has handled the situation badly.

"They have put their rules ahead of common sense, of electing a Democratic president, of the voters in two major states," Blanchard, a Clinton supporter, said during the taping of Michigan public television's "Off the Record" program. "They're treating the rules like they're the U.S. Constitution or the Ten Commandments. They've lost their way."

Dean said the massive numbers of people showing up to participate in Democratic nominating contests across the country gives him encouragement that the eventual nominee will be well-positioned to win the White House.

He said it is good for the candidates to debate controversies like the incendiary sermons by Obama's pastor and Clinton's different accounts of danger on a trip to Bosnia as first lady. If Democrats didn't deal with them now, he said Republicans will surely make use of them in the fall.

Dean also reflected the concerns of many Democrats who worry about Obama and Clinton tearing each other down.

"What I don't want to do is have the Democrats make a stupid mistake in April and then be sorry they said that in October and end up with some more right-wing extremists on the Supreme Court," he said.

Dean's supporters say he's working behind the scenes to resolve some of the issues. He's been consulting with party stalwarts about how to wrap up the nomination quickly after the voting ends in June, including former Vice President Al Gore, former presidential candidate John Edwards, former Sen. George Mitchell, former President Carter, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, civil rights activist Jesse Jackson and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo.

"There'll be some nasty fights if it goes to convention, and people will walk out," Dean said. "But I've also been talking to a fairly significant number of, by and large, nonaligned people about how we might resolve this."

Dean wouldn't talk in detail about what the plan is, but it likely involves encouraging superdelegates to pick a candidate shortly after the voting ends. He said he will not encourage any delegate to vote one way or another.

"I am going to stand up for the rules, and I know I'm doing the right thing most of the time because I've got both Clinton people and Obama people mad at me," he said.

For instance, while Obama's campaign has been encouraging superdelegates to support the candidate with the most pledged delegates _ which almost certainly will be Obama _ Dean says the rules don't require that and superdelegates are free to chose who they want.

On the other side, Clinton has been arguing lately that even pledged delegates _ awarded to a candidate based on the outcome of state contests _ aren't bound to vote for that candidate at the convention. Dean called that "a very technical argument."

"You aren't going to get pledged delegates to move unless something really shocking happens," he said. And he thinks it unlikely the superdelegates would support a candidate who did not have the most pledged delegates.

Dean also said the Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. But he won't force a resolution because he said there's nothing the Obama and Clinton campaigns can support at this point.

"You bring both sides together and say, `Don't you think it's time that the two campaigns made a deal on how we're going to do this?'" Dean said. "Let me just say that the campaigns believe that kind of a deal is premature right now."

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Associated Press Writer Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.

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The Dems can only lose if Hillary and Barack go negative. They should, must, hold a summit and decide unequivocally to present themselves and their policies and their record and completely avoid negative attacks on their Democratic opponent. No dirty tricks with superdelegates. No surrogates slinging the mud. Period.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:38 AM on 03/28/2008

Oh, REEEALY!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 03/28/2008

howard Dean just coped out! How do you like that! He knows he can't control Hillary, and she ain't about to listen to any words of reason any way. This is exactly why I left Hillary Clinton behind, an went with Obama. I jumped the Republican ship to get a way from Mccain, and than realized Hillary was just as bad and finally went with obama. You kknow what Mr. Dean, your a coward. Your going to worry so much about getting Hillary people to vote for Obama------that your going to end up loseing Hundreds of Republicans and Independents who's fed up with this crap. You know and we know there is no way mrs. clinton can catch up with Obama, and if the super delegates disfranchise the will of the people ------------you lose. So, take the bold steps and be a real leader and end this if she don't catch up after thesethree states. if I lived in pennsylvania , I;d vote Obama just to put a end to it all!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 03/28/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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"When I work long hours and don't get enough sleep, I tend to believe that people have been shooting at me. I am ready to answer the red phone at 3 am."

McClinton 2008.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 03/28/2008

Who says democrats dont want to lose this falls election

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 03/28/2008
- ChiGuy I'm a Fan of ChiGuy 323 fans permalink
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LOL!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 AM on 03/28/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

McCain/Clinton 08 - hey you got to think outside of the box these days. If McCain privately tells Clinton that he will only serve 4 years, I would not be surprised that Hillary accepts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 03/28/2008

Whe would he want her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:52 AM on 03/28/2008
- CarlsV I'm a Fan of CarlsV 12 fans permalink

"hey you got to think outside of the box these days" I think you're way better off staying in your box sparky!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/28/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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They can spend their time swapping war stories, real or imagined.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 03/28/2008

It's Friday, I don't need a converter box for my TV next year when they go digital. U all R funny, real funny, I guess watching Jon Stewart paid off. I don't buy TV. So thanks for all the updates. I am for Hilliary because she has hostile war zone experience over Obama, I support Obama because he can write and read a few paragraphs without xeroxing someone else words no matter how many years back they are written, he makes them current. Hillary copies her Husband and John Edwards words, and that do not count. I support McCain he know how to recycle his old speech from 4 years ago. I lot has change stock market crash, but he likes VP Cheney's word no words ""SO"That's the best I can do to be funny. Did Dean say personal? What does that mean?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 03/28/2008
- redisright I'm a Fan of redisright 4 fans permalink

Can someone please tell me how Obama is going to change washington, Is he going to issue executive orders eliminating lobbyists? Is he going to make all earmarks require a vote (oops Bush already did that), is he going to open a website, like huckabee suggested, so the American people can see exactly where their money is going, and how much things cost? Can America please start getting some answers from this talking head.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 03/28/2008

And here I was waiting for the past seven years of tax returns from Hillary and the truth about her Bosnia lie.


Oh, and no he won't eliminate lobbyists. That would be unconstitutional, and unlike the current president and Hillary herself, he plans on upholding it. He is after all, a constitutional law professor. He has said many times, they will have a seat at the table, they just won't be able to buy all the seats or set the agenda of conversation. Under President Obama, everyone gets a voice, even those who aren't liked or are on the fringe. He won't be demonizing people the way certain politicians do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 03/28/2008

Go to his website and listen to his speeches. he isnt out to change Washington, he's out to change the attitudes and the policies that have created the Washington we love to hate. He makes no suggestions that he will do it alone, or that he can accomplish it all during his tenure as President, but he does believe he can get the ball rolling.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 03/28/2008
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At this point ... Only the unreachable are those who still feign ignorance. And he has legislation, not websites that give us transparency ... since you asked the brain dead question!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:16 PM on 03/28/2008
- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 28 fans permalink
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He's at it again:

But McCain, who Mr. Clinton said is a "moderate", "has given about all you can give for this country without dyin' for it."

He said McCain was on the right side of issues like being against torture of enemy combatants and global warming, which "just about crosses the bridge for them (Republicans)."

The praise from Clinton comes as McCain, with the Republican nomination locked up and trying to rebrand his Maverick label, has tried to distance himself from President Bush, most notably on foreign policy. In a speech this week McCain talked about the need for more diplomacy."

McClinton 2008

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 AM on 03/28/2008

Maybe Mr. Dean should talk to the Clintons.....

Clinton Praises "Moderate" McCain
http://blogs.abcnews.com/politicalradar/2008/03/clinton-praises.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 03/28/2008
- ultrabop I'm a Fan of ultrabop 15 fans permalink
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How about go after the offending party....H­illary....­.for breaking with basic rules of civilization...thou must not lie about one's record and thou must not spread rumors through inuendo and propaganda tactics better saved for neo-Nazis and Republicans.

Obama is basically just trying to defend himself by pointing out the truth. He's trying to fly above the garbage dump that Hillary has spread in her wake.

Shouldn't Dean and other higher ups in the DNC be going after her specifically?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:31 AM on 03/28/2008

The hurtful comments of Obama supporters against Hillary as a person are outlandish--I like Obama as a person very much, just don't think he is ready. The hate of his supporters is very off-putting and disgusting. It is clear that his supporters think that to vilify Hillary is to raise Obama, when the opposite is the result. Issues aren't discussed, just personality attacks. Something is seriously wrong with American politics. We've had this dog and pony show for months and months. Just who is undecided by now, anyway. The same 10% who kept waffling between Kerry and Bush in the last election? How is that possible. We need some serious election reform and quicker elections. Let's just have a national primary election next month and be done with it. Enough!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 03/28/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

Dean said "You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other"

Note to Dr. Dean and the Democrats, "You do not want to demoralize the American troops by having Democrats and Republicans attack each other".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 03/28/2008
- ultrabop I'm a Fan of ultrabop 15 fans permalink
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The troops could care less about Republicans and Democrats. They are fighting for their lives over there and they know what's going on because they're in it. It's all about not getting killed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 03/28/2008
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The TROOPS WANT TO GET THEIR BUDDY"S AND THEMSELVES OUT OF THIS CLUSTERBOMB OF A WAR THAT SHOULD NEVER OF BEEN AUTHORIZED. THE TROOPS WANT TO COME HOME.

Sen. OBama has the HIGHEST support from troop donations of ANY presidential candidate. HEY WILL END THIS WAR. THE TROOPS WANT SOUND LEADERSHIP THAT WILL NOT ROMANTICIZE OR DISREGARD THEM AS EXPENDIBLE.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 03/28/2008
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The troops get demoralized by being yanked over and over from their families, homes and jobs to be sent to the other side of the world to "fight" in the middle of a civil war that's been brewing for over a thousand years and to be forced to do so without any real plan on how to win or even any idea what it means to win.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 03/28/2008
- gwhizz I'm a Fan of gwhizz 19 fans permalink

Note to Dean: You do not want to demoralize the American voters by declaring us worthless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 03/28/2008
- GarsLuber I'm a Fan of GarsLuber 12 fans permalink

voting for the eventual loser does not render your vote worthless.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:50 PM on 03/28/2008
- NightAdder I'm a Fan of NightAdder 8 fans permalink

The media has been really complicit in creating this mess by overstating the importance of the states Hillary wins and devaluating the states Obama does. The fact of the matter is that this primary was over a month ago, that is, after Obama won 11 in a row by the margins he did. What's so maddening to me is that the media totally bought into to the Clinton "firewall" talking points and sold the idea to the public to make it look like Hillary could win by winning states only she and the media felt were important. As the campaigns drag on, the voters are teetering on every word a canidate says and now nobody wants to unite behind a single canidate to put this primary behind us. I wish the media would stop trying to make a sideshow out of the primary and be more ardently honest to the public about Hillary's chances to win. They (the media) obviously want to see a riot in late August.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:30 AM on 03/28/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 21 fans permalink

I think the problems started because they started the campaign process way too early, we all have campaign fatigue. Also almost 8 years of Bush is enough to put anyone on edge (except the kool-aid drinkers!)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 03/28/2008

It is Bush's fault that people are acting like children?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:37 AM on 03/28/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 21 fans permalink

No - but his time as president has changed people in this country. I can't remember a campaign this nasty, I also remember a time when the Idea of our country condoning and practicing in torture was unacceptable, when the idea of an election being stolen was unthinkable etc... Hey come to think of it it is HIS FAULT!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 03/28/2008

Dont you know, its never the democrats fault. Rule 1 of the dem party is dont be held accountable for anything.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 03/28/2008

What do you think happens to a population after being lied to and taken advantage of for 8 years? The man is President whether he likes it or not he has a responsibility to the country to do what's best and be honest to us. He has done what's worst and lied every step of the way. You don't think that changes the way a country's people act towards each other? We are all so afraid of getting another opportunistic liar elected that we have become vicious towards anyone whom we don't fully believe.

I don't fully believe Hillary Clinton. I think she is an opportunistic liar and a borderline sociopath. She has no feelings about being humiliated by her husband in front of the whole world? She has no shame whatsoever? I find it hard to believe a person like that and she has obviously been caught lying about her foreign affairs experience.

Some people don't trust black people. They have their reasons and the reasons probably make sense to them, but they are most likely based on stereotypes and previous encounters with other black people who aren't even close to being the man Obama is. He is our last hope at transparency. If anyone else is elected our government will become more and more secretive and it will be mandated by the people. I say that because if we don't vote for Barack we are asking to be lied to. We obviously can't handle the truth.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 03/28/2008
- alaintex I'm a Fan of alaintex 2 fans permalink

Yeeeeeeeeeeargh!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 03/28/2008
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Dean says he wants the loser to be treated fairly in this so that he won't lose their supporters.

The only way to do this is to nominate Hillary Clinton. Obama has been treatment with kid gloves throughout this process while Hillary (and her supporters) have been treated like crap.

Beside, Hillary stands a chance in the General. Obama will collapse under RNC scrutiny. He's the next Dukakis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 03/28/2008
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Can you provide a link that Hillary will do better against McCain than Obama...Other than her office website.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 03/28/2008

The question is how do you nominate someone that cannot catch up in pledged delegates, popular vote and states won? Do you think that Hillary deserves the nomination despite in all likelihood losing in these categories? The point is Hillary brought out the "kitchen sink" after it was apparent that she could no longer catch up in pledged delegates, in other words she is willing to tear down the presumptive nominee of the party in order to win.
And why is that you think that Hillary has such a better chance of winning the general? She is about as polarizing as W. Plus how could she win it if the super delegates overturn the will of the people? It is the pinnacle of lust for power. She has lost the race that was her coronation pure and simple.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 AM on 03/28/2008

Hillary stands a snowball's chance in hell of winning the general. Too many Democrats hate her and ALL the Republicans hate her. She's damaged goods. And most of it has been self-infli­cted--exce­pt for when Bill opens his mouth. I used to LOVE Bill Clinton--but his behavior in this campaign has been pretty desperat and absolutely appalling. How power hungry can an ex-president get?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 03/28/2008

Go tell Hillary you did your on-line duty for the day. Now you can shine her pumps, take the dry cleaning and get Penn his donuts. Oh, and a bag of glass for Maggie Williams to eat.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 AM on 03/28/2008

Here it is again, the classic Clinton whine--"You owe me this nomination because I'm a victim!"

Meanwhile, did anyone notice that yesterday, Hillary Nader Clinton made some high-minded remarks about supporting the nominee and unifying the party? She had to, I guess, since more and more commentators are saying that her strategy, if she loses the nomination, is to sabotage the Democratic nominee and promote the election of McCain. Do you doubt it? Today Bill McClinton went out of his way AGAIN to praise John McCaIn, this time calling him a "moderate" who has had the courage to break away from Bush.

But none of that matters, of course. Hillary is OWED the nomination because she's "been treated like crap." Poor thing, don't cry--someone hand that woman a tissue.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:46 PM on 03/28/2008
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After reading Condi's comments on race:

Obama/Rice 08

or

McCain/Rice 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 03/28/2008

oh please she said one thing that makes sense. given all of her fuck-ups that's hardly enough for her to continue to be a public servant.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/28/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Oh I forgot: Clinton/Rice 08

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 03/28/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 21 fans permalink

Condi has so much blood on her hands- how can you even think this?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:27 AM on 03/28/2008

Here's my solution:
The winning ticket: Clinton/Powell 08'

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 AM on 03/28/2008
- McSurgent I'm a Fan of McSurgent 2 fans permalink

Actually I was thinking that Powell could have been substituted for Rice and that would be a powerful ticket. Powell would need to give a powerful address on his role in the Bush Administration and how he was wrong and state his current views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:43 AM on 03/28/2008
- hopein I'm a Fan of hopein 2 fans permalink

Dean is a poster for why the party is so leaderless!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 03/28/2008
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