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Democratic National Committee Chairman Howard Dean gestures during an interview with The Associated press, Thursday, March 27, 2008, at DNC Headquarters in Washington. (AP Photo/J. Scott Applewhite)

WASHINGTON — Democratic Party chief Howard Dean says Barack Obama, Hillary Rodham Clinton and their supporters should beware of tearing each other down, demoralizing the base and damaging the party's chances of winning the White House in November.

In an interview with The Associated Press, Dean also said he hopes the Democratic nominee will be determined shortly after the voting ends in early June and that he will encourage the superdelegates who will play a role to make up their minds before the August convention in Denver.

Dean said the charges and countercharges between Clinton and Obama have gotten too personal at times. He declined to say how they have crossed the line, but he said he's made it clear privately when it has happened.

"You do not want to demoralize the base of the Democratic Party by having the Democrats attack each other," he said Thursday during the interview in his office at Democratic National Committee headquarters. "Let the media and the Republicans and the talking heads on cable television attack and carry on, fulminate at the mouth. The supporters should keep their mouths shut about this stuff on both sides because that is harmful to the potential victory of a Democrat."

Superdelegates _ the nearly 800 party and elected officials who can support whomever they choose at the convention, regardless of what happens in the primaries _ should make up their minds before August to avoid a fight at the convention, Dean said.

"There is no point in waiting," he said. The Democratic political organization "is as good or better as the Republicans,' and we haven't been able to say that for about 30 years. But that all doesn't make any difference if people are really disenchanted or demoralized by a convention that's really ugly and nasty."

Dean commented during a wide-ranging, 40-minute interview about his leadership during a nominating season that has lasted longer than most expected and that has left the party with some tough issues to resolve. Among them:

_ Florida and Michigan Democrats brazenly violated party rules by holding primaries ahead of schedule and lost their delegates to the convention as punishment. Both states are now demanding that they not be shut out of the decision-making process because of it.

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_ Since neither Clinton nor Obama are likely to secure the nomination with just the delegates won in the primaries and caucuses, the nominee will probably be determined by the superdelegates. That has some activists objecting that insiders could overturn the will of the voters.

_ Dean has raised record amounts of money _ the $51.5 million the DNC brought in in 2007 was a record for a non-election year. And he's spent it, too, on trying to build organizations in the 50 states. Campaign finance reports this month show the party with $4.5 million after accounting for debt, compared with $25 million for the Republican National Committee _ and the Democrats have no nominee to help replenish the coffers.

_ Not to mention that Clinton's and Obama's campaigns spend every day trying to tear each other down _ and are unlikely to stop anytime soon _ while Sen. John McCain of Arizona, the certain Republican nominee, is busy preparing for the general election. Even Dean said he doesn't expect the campaign to end until the last nominating contest is held in June.

Dean, the former governor of Vermont and 2004 presidential candidate, said he knows his critics say he should take a bigger leadership role in resolving some of these disputes. But he said that's not his role. Rather, he thinks of himself as a referee who enforces the rules in a close basketball game.

"Somebody is going to lose," Dean said. "My job is to make sure the person who loses feels like they have been treated fairly so that their supporters will support the winner."

But former Michigan Gov. James Blanchard said the DNC has handled the situation badly.

"They have put their rules ahead of common sense, of electing a Democratic president, of the voters in two major states," Blanchard, a Clinton supporter, said during the taping of Michigan public television's "Off the Record" program. "They're treating the rules like they're the U.S. Constitution or the Ten Commandments. They've lost their way."

Dean said the massive numbers of people showing up to participate in Democratic nominating contests across the country gives him encouragement that the eventual nominee will be well-positioned to win the White House.

He said it is good for the candidates to debate controversies like the incendiary sermons by Obama's pastor and Clinton's different accounts of danger on a trip to Bosnia as first lady. If Democrats didn't deal with them now, he said Republicans will surely make use of them in the fall.

Dean also reflected the concerns of many Democrats who worry about Obama and Clinton tearing each other down.

"What I don't want to do is have the Democrats make a stupid mistake in April and then be sorry they said that in October and end up with some more right-wing extremists on the Supreme Court," he said.

Dean's supporters say he's working behind the scenes to resolve some of the issues. He's been consulting with party stalwarts about how to wrap up the nomination quickly after the voting ends in June, including former Vice President Al Gore, former presidential candidate John Edwards, former Sen. George Mitchell, former President Carter, Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, civil rights activist Jesse Jackson and former New York Gov. Mario Cuomo.

"There'll be some nasty fights if it goes to convention, and people will walk out," Dean said. "But I've also been talking to a fairly significant number of, by and large, nonaligned people about how we might resolve this."

Dean wouldn't talk in detail about what the plan is, but it likely involves encouraging superdelegates to pick a candidate shortly after the voting ends. He said he will not encourage any delegate to vote one way or another.

"I am going to stand up for the rules, and I know I'm doing the right thing most of the time because I've got both Clinton people and Obama people mad at me," he said.

For instance, while Obama's campaign has been encouraging superdelegates to support the candidate with the most pledged delegates _ which almost certainly will be Obama _ Dean says the rules don't require that and superdelegates are free to chose who they want.

On the other side, Clinton has been arguing lately that even pledged delegates _ awarded to a candidate based on the outcome of state contests _ aren't bound to vote for that candidate at the convention. Dean called that "a very technical argument."

"You aren't going to get pledged delegates to move unless something really shocking happens," he said. And he thinks it unlikely the superdelegates would support a candidate who did not have the most pledged delegates.

Dean also said the Michigan and Florida delegates will be seated at the convention. But he won't force a resolution because he said there's nothing the Obama and Clinton campaigns can support at this point.

"You bring both sides together and say, `Don't you think it's time that the two campaigns made a deal on how we're going to do this?'" Dean said. "Let me just say that the campaigns believe that kind of a deal is premature right now."

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Associated Press Writer Kathy Barks Hoffman in Lansing, Mich., contributed to this report.

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- Gordon I'm a Fan of Gordon 29 fans permalink
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I like the sane candidate who doesn't have paranoid delusions about snipers shooting at them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 AM on 03/28/2008

naw. You just like the candidate that calls Black Clinton supporters "Uncle Toms".

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0208/8762.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 03/28/2008
- omaro I'm a Fan of omaro 3 fans permalink

No one will be surprised to hear that the politico article linked by TheRealist1 does not in fact contain anything about the candidate (Obama) calling anyone an Uncle Tom. It even contains a quote from a Clinton supporter saying the opposite--that he in no way thinks any such quotes come from Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:36 PM on 03/28/2008
- pinkyboo I'm a Fan of pinkyboo 21 fans permalink

He's just now figuring this out?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 AM on 03/28/2008
- fullkelly I'm a Fan of fullkelly 4 fans permalink

More and more people are taking their second look at the man with no record, no paper trail, no realistic past. they are not liking what they are seeing and especially HEARING now. He can hide and he did run.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 03/28/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Not me. I believe in the nuance of the race issue that Obama discussed in his speech. I believe he is a good leader. I dislike how the Clinton's lie so much. And I dislike how they narcassitically care only about themselves. GO OBAMA!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 03/28/2008

While we have quite a paper record of her, don't we? Her 2000-2006 tax returns, the presidential library donor list..... Where are those, by the way?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/28/2008
- iPolitics I'm a Fan of iPolitics 33 fans permalink

Propaganda machine.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:26 AM on 03/28/2008

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 03/28/2008
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YAWN!! The man with no record? Really fullkelly? Ok lazy troll. You mean the man who has released records via Chicago Tribune for his ties to REZKO, 6 years of tax returns THE REAL ONES along with his wife, his record is on THOMAS GOV regarding legistlative record in the U.S. Senate, released his earmarks.

Where is Sybillary's WH records?
Tax returns? She's probably buying off and I.R.S. agent and cooking the books
$330 million earmarks.


GIVE ME A BREAK

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:11 PM on 03/28/2008

This is all so silly and irrelevant.

We are fickle minded puppies that get easily distracted by what ever is put in front of us. We can’t remember what transpired in this primary a month ago. Does anyone even remember the names of the Republican candidates and “in-fighting” they had? No, we don’t.

In the history of primaries this is relatively tame and non-controversial. And that's the true enemy of the Republicans and corporations that control them. Two ideological agreeable candidates that talk about the issues instead of personal attacks...­oh my god, democracy.­..how boring.

We have short term memories that only have so much hard drive room to spare, and media companies have ratings to get / newspapers to sell. In a few months we will have one nominee and no one will remember any of this and the Democrats will rally around their sole candidate against the pathetic guaranteed-to-lose arguments of the opposition party.

The object here is to seemingly create a controversy so the Republicans can ‘convincingly’ steal another election from us or manufacture enough dissention within the Dems that some don’t vote. But they will learn in the end the people will come to their senses and punish that irrelevant party that has destroyed this country and run them out of politics for a long time. Hopefully then we can start to pry corporations grasp from the senseless information that controls our limited attention span and start to get back to work.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 03/28/2008
- riverhorse I'm a Fan of riverhorse 4 fans permalink

Obama cautious, Clinton bold and progressiv­e....by Paul Krugman.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/28/krugman-on-mortgage-plans_n_93873.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 AM on 03/28/2008
- Clinton I'm a Fan of Clinton 9 fans permalink

Too slow, bye!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 03/28/2008
- fullkelly I'm a Fan of fullkelly 4 fans permalink

Dean is right on -- let the big dog eat. The supers should as in any other vote-- vote their conscience, IE their better judgement and not their grudges.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 03/28/2008
- tsloan I'm a Fan of tsloan 4 fans permalink

HCR will not be forgiven by many, many folks for taking the Tonya Harding option.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 03/28/2008

sad sad sad dont you have anything else to contribute?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 AM on 03/28/2008
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You have this strange feeling deep in your gut that gets worse when you here about the little incidents in the news......­race baiting ..........­here.there­...a trickle that is slowly turning into a flood. When anyone attacks another persons house of worship...­..(Klan attacks on black churces) (burning crosses) etc. I mean look if you really wantt to keep it real......­...THE FIRST TERRORIST .........i­n this country were average people .......(wh­ite) at least some could make that assumtion. Is that statement unpatriotic? It is clear at least to me that a normal person can no more deny that race has come a long way in this country , than they say that the Klan does not exsist still. But that is the beauty of America, FREEDOM OF SPEECH WITHOUT FEAR!

Who would you poll for feed back on this? Native Americans? African Americans? Irish? Polish? Jews? who? Who are we speaking to when we say as a nation that we attack one man .........f­or his views or commentary on percieved or real sociial injustices. What I am stunned at is that no one is actually offering any real substance on these matters...­..debate dialog etc. i see it here on the POST. thats why I tell everyone I see to come here.,(hin­t) I see a lot of people!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:13 AM on 03/28/2008
- NewRiver I'm a Fan of NewRiver 21 fans permalink
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BREAKING NEWS: The Associated Press is reporting a Howard Dean sighting. Unconfirmed reports claim he's the leader of the Democratic Party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 03/28/2008
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 131 fans permalink
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So Dean your the head of the DNC, do something, tell Billary she can't change the rules to put herself in the WH. I know it's silly but the public will decide this race not HILL AND BILL. And I've seen very few attacks on Clinton by Obama's camp, unlike the Clinton camp, she keeps bringing up Wright and of course there's her three speeches when she recalled what it was like being shot at by snipers! Then Bill runs all over spewing crap. Are you afraid of the Clintons, apparently Nancy isn't, she told there big money machines to "bite me". Get some kahonas and tell the Clintons their "entitlement" days are over.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 AM on 03/28/2008

Dr. Dean is absolutely right.
Neither Hillary's side nor Obama's side are without blame, but Obama's fans have called Hillary everything from a C-word to a common criminal, with particular vitriol.
While I am a Hillary supporter, I think Obama is an excellent second choice whom I will gladly support.
I may have made comments that compare their differences with Hillary getting the edge, but I consider maligning Obama to be giving ammo to the GOP.
Look inside your Democratic selves, please, and comment accordingly.
If you hate Obama, don't be an asshole about it.
If you hate Hillary, don't be an asshole about it.
If you hate McCain and the GOP, please come sit next to me. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 03/28/2008
- Bobby I'm a Fan of Bobby 15 fans permalink

No shit Sherlock! Now which campaign has gotten uglier? There is NO doubt. It's the one being run by Mark Penn and Howard Wolfson.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 AM on 03/28/2008
- factcheck2 I'm a Fan of factcheck2 6 fans permalink

Obama's woes have nothing to do with Hillary Clinton. She didn't introduce him to Tony Rezko, Rev. Wright or the Canadian consulate to talk about NAFTA. And when Obama strategist David Axelrod was putting out direct mail criticizing universal health care, and demanding Clinton tax returns and library donor lists, Dean never said a word. Now that Obama's support among Democratic voters is going down the sewer, he says things are getting too personal. To be sure, things are getting pesonal for Hward Dean and Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid. God forbid we should have a New Deal democrat in the White House when the next Depression hits. If Clinton's elected, you can bet there's going to be a spring cleaning on Capitol Hill next year. For more on how this election is being manipulated, I've posted an article at thecityedition.com. Here's a direct. http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:10 AM on 03/28/2008
- riverhorse I'm a Fan of riverhorse 4 fans permalink

great article...­.thanks.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 AM on 03/28/2008

You do realize that anything said on this site isnt 100% positive for Obama, will be spat at because the people on this site are fair and balanced like fox news.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:17 AM on 03/28/2008

I agree. they do have to try and achieve the SNL level of fairness

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:29 AM on 03/28/2008
- benwha I'm a Fan of benwha 6 fans permalink

Clinton lied about NAFTA too. Lets be fair here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:22 AM on 03/28/2008
- donchep I'm a Fan of donchep 6 fans permalink

Actually Clinton is the ONLY one who lied about NAFTA. The smoking gun is in her own words. Find an actual lie about NAFTA from Obama's own words.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 AM on 03/28/2008

The cityedition.com is not an actual new site. According to their website:

The City Edition fills a gap in San Francisco's web media market by providing a community online hub for women, 25 and older, who live, work or go to college here. We also appeal to men interested in current issues, health care, the arts and quality merchandise available in the local marketplace. You'll also find the most comprehensive events listings for women in the city, and a section on local tourism and dining. Business interested in finding new customers or clients should check out our Advertising section for all the details. You can even reserve an ad online.

Not exactly unbiased.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 03/28/2008
- naturesway I'm a Fan of naturesway 12 fans permalink

wow, good link. Rove appears to be setting up for a 48 state loss for the DEMS.
He is sinister.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:25 AM on 03/28/2008
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