Hillary And Bill: We Aren't Going Anywhere

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  |   March 28, 2008 06:02 PM


**UPDATED 03.29**

In an article on the obstacles Hillary Clinton faces in regards to winning the nomination, The New York Times notes that despite the increasing pressure on her to step aside, Clinton is still refusing to give an inch:

Compounding the challenge, one of Mr. Obama's most prominent supporters, Senator Patrick J. Leahy of Vermont, said Mrs. Clinton should quit the race because she hurt Mr. Obama "more than anything John McCain has said."

The Clinton campaign showed resolve in the face of the developments, rallying supporters and donors and enlisting prominent surrogates to fight back. Mrs. Clinton told aides that she would not be "bullied out" of the race.

In a conversation with two Democratic allies, she compared the situation to the "big boys" trying to bully a woman, according to interviews with them.

On the campaign trail, Mrs. Clinton said she was in the contest to stay.


On Friday both Clintons struck defiant notes on the trail in response to recent suggestions from leading Democrats that Hillary should end her campaign.

From MSNBC:

Just in case you were wondering what Hillary Clinton's No. 1 fan thinks of recent calls for her to drop out of the race for the Democratic nomination, Bill Clinton has three words for you: "Bunch of Bull."

"All these people tell you, 'Aw, we oughta shut this thing down now; the Democrats are so divided,'" Clinton said at a campaign event here. "That's a bunch of bull."



From the New York Times Caucus blog:

To answer questions that have been swirling around her candidacy all day, Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton arrived here in northwest Indiana - just a few miles from her Democratic rival's home on Chicago's South Side - to unequivocally say she has no intention of leaving the presidential race.

"There are millions of reasons to continue this race: people in Pennsylvania and Indiana and North Carolina and all of the contests yet to come," Mrs. Clinton said. "This is a very close race and clearly I believe strongly that everyone should have their voices heard and their votes counted and that includes Michigan and Florida."

Then, she added: "There is a lot still to be done and I'm looking forward to campaigning hard over the next several months."


 
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- bobdob I'm a Fan of bobdob 18 fans permalink

Hillary and Bill: "We Aren't Going Anywhere Until We Get Our 5 Million Bucks Back"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:54 PM on 04/01/2008
- FJRinLA I'm a Fan of FJRinLA 2 fans permalink

THE CLINTON INSURGENCY IS IN FULL SWING

CALLS FOR HER WITHDRAWAL ONLY FEED IT!


Fueling the current Clinton Insurgency against Obama AND the entire DEM party is the Clintons’ belief THEY were robbed of this nomination.

This belief provides them internal psychic comfort and external rationalization for ANY and EVERY behavior we have seen and will continue to see RIGHT THROUGH 2012.

Only the naive think this ends at the Convention. After losing there, the Clinton Insurgency goes underground to further expand their support of McCain's candidacy. If unsuccessful, it moves to the Senate where Hillary as Lieberman REDUX, will practically caucus with McCain to deny President Obama any success.

Between Super Tuesdays Obama won 11 straight states; and the Campaign to Elect Hillary morphed into the Campaign to Defeat Obama via this new political Insurgency we are witnessing daily.
Indeed, Hillary's campaign is an undeclared death-struggle to deny Obama not the nomination (she knows that's already lost), but the Presidency and any media coverage that would aid him.

The goal is no longer winning. Victory is in prolonging the battle and denying the favorite his expected result, while spoiling it so that ultimate victory is worth less each day the Insurgency continues. This new Clinton campaign can only be by design of our Chief Democratic Architect, former President Bill Clinton, himself.

We all know this in our hearts. The only question facing loyal DEMS, to paraphrase Sean Connery from "The Untouchables": What are WE prepared to do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:18 AM on 04/01/2008
- sink I'm a Fan of sink permalink

Sadly, I think you're spot on. Sad sad sad.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:29 AM on 04/01/2008
- nachtengel I'm a Fan of nachtengel 3 fans permalink
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BUMBLE BEEEEEEE

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 AM on 04/01/2008
- S1m0n I'm a Fan of S1m0n 90 fans permalink
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"She's going to withdraw in two weeks" being the same as saying "She's withdrawing immediately!", all that Clinton's statement really means is "she's not withdrawing today".

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:44 PM on 03/31/2008
- nivek I'm a Fan of nivek 4 fans permalink
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To quote Arnie Grape,"we're not goin' anywhere Gilbert"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 PM on 03/31/2008
- Cuneo I'm a Fan of Cuneo 3 fans permalink

They are going one of two places: 1)oblivion, or 2)forming the McCain Democrat wing of the Republican party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 03/31/2008

"Hillary And Bill: We Aren't Going Anywhere" could that mean that are going nowhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:16 PM on 03/31/2008

It's horrible that a party can be so self-destructive. I am a big Obama fan, and I am curious as to who everyone thinks REALLY is the most harmful politician to his reputation and nomination possibility.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:58 PM on 03/31/2008
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They have to do something to pay back all those party bills they have run up. They will stay in as long as is legal to keep raising the cash. As long as the sheep keep grazing Billary will find a way to pull the wool over their eyes. Do you know what a cash cow this windfall could be for them. The Clintons are business people first and foremost. They never met a profit they didn't like.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 03/31/2008
- Pleidian I'm a Fan of Pleidian 6 fans permalink
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I suppose she is witihin her rights, but she and Bill have clearly revealed themselves as desperate establishment candidates, who want to protect the oligarchy - best I can tell anyway. They had the chance to bring about a tech and knowledge revolution with Laurence Rockefeller but the Clintons blew it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 AM on 03/31/2008
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Hillary is well within her rights to stay in the race as long as she can. Here’s my problem with her continuing. She won’t be able to control her surrogates from tearing the party apart. You can see that her plan is stay above it all and let her surrogates do the dirty work. If she with Obama’s help can elevate the debate back to the real issues it will be great for the rest of the states. Imagine, all the states get to vote. Oh, and on that issue, its simple. Split the Michigan vote between them and let the Florida vote stand as is. Now the crucial element to this is to not allow the Michigan and Florida Super Delegates to have a vote. This way the peoples vote count and no one gets a clear advantage. Or let the vote in both states count but no super delegates. If Clinton is really concerned about the peoples vote, then this is a no brainner. Oh and lets not forget about Mr. Obama. He needs to show real leadership and make a public statement on this and not leave it up to the DNC. He has to step up if he truly is presidential material.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:34 PM on 03/30/2008

I can hardly wait to see what new disgrace the Clinton's will bring to the WH. The real problem with Hillary is Bill. And she has made it plain that he is part of the act. Bill is going to be her VP. Only person that can handle her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 PM on 03/30/2008
- VivaZapata I'm a Fan of VivaZapata 63 fans permalink
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Good headline. I was unaware that they were unaware that they weren't going anywhere.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:02 AM on 03/30/2008
- TJRich I'm a Fan of TJRich 6 fans permalink

Apparently the Clintons can't handle the truth. And they can just forget the Chelsea fasttrack too. Another Clinton at any time will be like another Bush!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:47 AM on 03/30/2008
- cae I'm a Fan of cae 3 fans permalink

Why should they go anywhere? I know there will be harsh comments but oh well. First, the race is very close. And if Florida and Michigan could be re-voted, chances are it would be even more close. But for supporters of Sen. Obama, apparently that doesn't count. No matter that democratic­ally-speak­ing it would be the most true and representative measure of who all us Dems want as our party's candidate; that all us Dems should be counted. And other large states are yet to vote, some of which favor Sen. Clinton. So because earlier states so far have Sen. Obama ahead, that means states that vote later don't count; let's just call it a day and leave? It seems like it's a big rush, ask questions later.

I do agree some of the attacks on each other aren't good and hopefully they will discuss the issues, experience and personal qualities which each believes would make them a good leader and president

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:20 PM on 03/29/2008

You have some misconceptions. First, the race isn't very close. To pass Senator Obama by only 3 delegates, Senator Clinton would need to win all of the remaining contests by 64%. Remember when Senator Obama won a victory that large in that big State Virginia? Senator Clinton has only won one victory that large and it was Arkansas. But, there isn't any problem with the race continuing so long as Senator Clinton's strategy isn't to go negative (often falsely) against Senator Obama in the hope that she can throw something at him that will get the 72% of the superdelegates she would need to take the Democratic nomination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:49 PM on 03/30/2008
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