Krugman On Mortgage Plans: Obama "Cautious," Clinton "Bold And Progressive"

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First Posted: 03-28-08 09:46 AM   |   Updated: 04- 5-08 05:12 AM

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New York Times columnist Paul Krugman writes on the presidential candidates' mortgage crisis proposals:

Barack Obama's speech on the economy on Thursday followed the cautious pattern of his earlier statements on economic issues.


I was pleased that Mr. Obama came out strongly for broader financial regulation, which might help avert future crises. But his proposals for aid to the victims of the current crisis, though significant, are less sweeping than Mrs. Clinton's: he wants to nudge private lenders into restructuring mortgages rather than having the government simply step in and get the job done.

Mr. Obama also continues to make permanent tax cuts -- middle-class tax cuts, to be sure -- a centerpiece of his economic plan. It's not clear how he would pay both for these tax cuts and for initiatives like health care reform, so his tax-cut promises raise questions about how determined he really is to pursue a strongly progressive agenda.

All in all, the candidates' positions on the mortgage crisis tell the same tale as their positions on health care: a tale that is seriously at odds with the way they're often portrayed. ...

Mrs. Clinton, we're assured by sources right and left, tortures puppies and eats babies. But her policy proposals continue to be surprisingly bold and progressive.

Finally, Mr. Obama is widely portrayed, not least by himself, as a transformational figure who will usher in a new era. But his actual policy proposals, though liberal, tend to be cautious and relatively orthodox.

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New York Times columnist Paul Krugman writes on the presidential candidates' mortgage crisis proposals: Barack Obama's speech on the economy on Thursday followed the cautious pattern of his earlier s...
New York Times columnist Paul Krugman writes on the presidential candidates' mortgage crisis proposals: Barack Obama's speech on the economy on Thursday followed the cautious pattern of his earlier s...
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- Bluedog12 I'm a Fan of Bluedog12 15 fans permalink

With all due respect Mr. Krugman this is not 1968. From 68 through today the wacko wing of the Democratic party has operated as if the 60's are perpetual. Well you had your day and ruined the Party. Now you and Hilary and all of the oher greatful dead enders need to move aside for real change. The Democratic Party is in a new era and you don't see it. This is truly amazing. The enlightened generation too enlightened to see whats happening around them. Hey Paul, do you remind yourself of anyone, from back, maybe , I don't know 40 years?? Krugster dude listen. Read this slowly. Obama has addressed the financial crisis with objective smart thinking and a plan. He will govern and not pander. He will govern and not philander.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:02 PM on 03/31/2008
- Eddy333 I'm a Fan of Eddy333 7 fans permalink
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"Finally, Mr. Obama is widely portrayed, not least by himself, as a transformational figure who will usher in a new era. But his actual policy proposals, though liberal, tend to be cautious and relatively orthodox."

Yeah, so maybe there's some hope of actually accomplishing something.

Krugman insists that instead the government should step in and "simply get the job done." Talk about easier said than done. That means absolutely nothing in a partisan environment where you half half of Congress rabidly against increased government size or involvement. Of course they were all too willing to do it for Bush Co., but they will stonewall a Dem. President merely for political points and partisan sport. That is what Congress has stooped to these days.

Krugman's assumption that something like that can just "get done" is liberal fantasy, just like Hillary's health care plan (and I say that as a proud liberal). What's needed is a more nuanced approach that will garner more bipartisan cooperation from moderate Repubs. Little by little the changes progressives seek can be achieved.

Don't the Dems get this fact yet?!?!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:00 PM on 03/31/2008

Because Krugman is doing what most economists do : guessing while hoping for what is in his best interests (no matter how obscured). Do you know how to get 12 opinions/solutions/models to 1 economic problem? Put 10 economists in a locked room (scotch optional). And you economists out there? Keep your panties untwisted, boys, I used the qualifier "most". Just like when I say, "Most lawyers suck."

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:28 AM on 03/31/2008
- TN I'm a Fan of TN 28 fans permalink

I used to love him. It seems he, like carville, planned on a new job in the Hillary White House and the thought of all those years of work going down the drain is staggering to them. They did not see him coming.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:36 PM on 03/30/2008
- ChrisS13 I'm a Fan of ChrisS13 5 fans permalink

If Obamas plan is FDR like, then how would that be about Change and new politics? Wouldn't that be the exact same thing that Obama supporters claim HRC does? You know envoking old policies to fix new problems.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 03/31/2008
- ntmessage I'm a Fan of ntmessage 38 fans permalink

Krugman is correct; Clintons plan is more detailed, specific and progressive. Obama as usual attacks and criticizes others but does not provide real solutions or real plans that are detailed enough to support or with a predefined outcome. Obama is same old same old, say nothing politician.

In fact, during the same program Brazile and Kerry brazenly shilled unabashedly with double talk. First Kerry said that we need to clean up the smears jobs between the campaigns and then went on to smear Clinton in the same breath. Further, he robotically spouted Obama talking points without answering any questions. After, Brazile lets loose with a real hum dinger of a spin trying to say that if the super&delegates select the nominee, it would be a redo of the Florida mess in 2000! Amazing! First, we all know the DNC and Brazile in particular, worked had to disenfranchise Florida in the first place! She even went public and bragged about it! In addition we all know because of the DNC the Super&delegates cannot confirm a clear winner in advance, anyhow.

Is anyone objectively seeing what is going one here? The DNC wants Clinton to drop out in advance or to have the Supers commit BEFORE the convention so the public is not exposed to the deplorable behavior of the DNC and Obama NOT counting votes they dont like while saying in public that the people should decide, especially during the convention.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:12 PM on 03/30/2008

As a BO supporter, I thought Krugman's article was fine--I have no problem if he thinks Hill is more progressive on the issues than BO. The only sentence in the op-ed that I thought made him look rabid and zealous in his push for HIll was the sentence where he denounced those on right & left who thinks she "tortures puppies and eats babies". Huh? Do you realize Paul, that that ONE sentence pretty much cancelled out every other intelligent word in the piece? Talk about waaayy over the top!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 PM on 03/30/2008
- DocGreen I'm a Fan of DocGreen 4 fans permalink
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Paul Krugman is a Clinton operative and consultant to the Clinton economic team. He should disclose that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:48 PM on 03/30/2008
- asere I'm a Fan of asere 2 fans permalink

Krugman is saying what his handlers are telling him to say; what's new about that?
Take what he says with a 50 pound bag of Norton's Salt.
He's a hack.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:40 PM on 03/30/2008
- digoweli I'm a Fan of digoweli 4 fans permalink

asere, you say Krugman is a hack? What are you, suicidal? When a party takes on the sole authorities who have worked their way into positions of great prestige, that party is dying. Actually, I am proud of Krugman. He is the most courageous of the Democratic economists out there. Without him, all you have are Republican neo-classical Chicago School economists. If you believe that is the answer then God help us. digoweli

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 03/30/2008
- riverhouse I'm a Fan of riverhouse 49 fans permalink

Krugman came out for Hillary early on when she seemed the "inevitable" candidate. He was seeking an economic leadership role in her administration and holds to that failing dream. There is no place for Krugman to go at this point. Obama has the Nobel prize winner in economics on his team. Most people in the field of economics have far more confidence in Steiglitz than they do in Krugman, the NY Times columnist. And, of course, in keeping with the Clinton practice, Hillary dissed Krugman when she came out with her economic dream team of Greenspan and Rubin to solve the subprime crisis.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:48 AM on 03/30/2008
- Ifeomamn I'm a Fan of Ifeomamn 2 fans permalink

Krugman hates Senator Obama, that is why he is always taking Clinton's view over Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 AM on 03/30/2008
- Ranta I'm a Fan of Ranta 29 fans permalink
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What does Krugman see in someone who's #1 in big pharma and #2 in health care lobbyist contributions? Does he actually think that when the time comes she will tell them no?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 AM on 03/30/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 236 fans permalink
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Looks like Jared Bernstein also picked up on Krugman's less than honest agenda driven column.

http://tpmcafe.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/03/28/jb_on_pk_vs_bho/

Seems to me that Krugman shouldn't put his integrity in jeopardy to help out his buddy Hillary. He's not that good at it. Too many of his colleagues got on to him right away.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:27 PM on 03/29/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 236 fans permalink
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Many people are dismayed by Krugman's article. After hearing Obama's remarkable speech I posted on another blog that Krugman would be tested by this speech because he would either have to decide to comment honestly on the boldness of the speech and how much Obama was in agreement with his analysis or we would have to try and spin it so he could keep up his partisan support for Hillary. Unfortunately, for all of us, Krugman chose the latter path.

You can read what Bob Kuttner has to say about all of this in the following link.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=obama_v_krugman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 PM on 03/29/2008

Krugman has never liked anything that Obama has to say, as far as I can see. Doesn't Obama want to raise the cap on social security? I seem to remember Krugman himself saying that was a good idea.
But, remember, none of these plans count for anything if the Democrats don't win in November and I am talking about the congress too. It is not just policy that we have to analyse. Great policy positions are part of the mix, but only part, when it comes to getting out the voters.
We have to get the working majority that can push through legislation--make the policies into laws. With a Democratic majority, we can get policies enacted that are even better than the ones either Clinton or Obama set forth, as long as the citizens stay involved and the office holders know they are answerable to them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:59 PM on 03/29/2008
- cybersense I'm a Fan of cybersense 8 fans permalink

Obama just follows the leaders on his policies. Not too original. But, he doesn't really have any experience. Judgement? Not too sure of that either now. So, what we have left here is what?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 03/29/2008
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