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Hagel: 'Arrogance, Incompetence' Fuel Bush's Run To War

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March 30, 2008 03:13 PM


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Nebraska Senator Chuck Hagel, who will not seek a new term in the Senate, continues to offer some of the most potent criticism of the Iraq War out there. Asked by Late Edition's Wolf Blitzer to elaborate on a passage from his book, America: Our Next Chapter, Hagel offers up a brand of "straight talk" that's less obtuse and obsequious that the stuff being pimped by another Republican I could name:

BLITZER: All right. I just want to read one quote from the book because it's a powerful quote. And get your explanation. "So why did we invade Iraq? I believe it was the triumph of the so-called neoconservative ideology, as well as Bush administration arrogance and incompetence that took America into this war of choice. They obviously made a convincing case to a president with very limited national security and foreign policy experience, who keenly felt the burden of leading the nation in the wake of the deadliest terror attack ever on American soil." But the words "arrogance" and "incompetence" jumped out at me. Do you want to elaborate what you meant by writing those words?

HAGEL: Sure. I did write those words and I meant it and I still mean it, and I think it was arrogance and incompetence that put this country in such a hole around the world. Arrogance meaning they wouldn't listen to anyone. They didn't listen to our allies. Every major leader in the Middle East that I talked to, and I certainly know the President and others talked to before we invaded Iraq, warned the President, warned the Vice President, warned Secretary Powell not to do this. Even a number of senior Israeli officials warned them not to do it. Members of Congress asked questions, I was among one those, who said wait a minute, slow down, let the IAEA, the International Atomic Energy Agency officials finish their job. Slow this train down. They wouldn't listen to anybody. It was just raw arrogance. Incompetence? I think it was incompetence, they wouldn't look at history, that part of the world. The complications the combustability, they didn't factor in the context of consequences for their actions to get us into a war. I quote Eisenhower in the book, he said this in the 1950s, that America should never put American troops in the Middle East. Don't get bogged down in that kind of a war. Other great leaders have said the same thing. and there was both, in my opinion, arrogance and incompetence that led us into this.

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He'll never get a job on Fox News now.The NY Times and Washington Post won't hire him either.And I can't imagine Sally Quinn inviting him to one of her "religious events"(aka dinner parties).

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:32 AM on 04/01/2008

HAFEL IS MARVELOUS--and a voice from the GOP that dares to face truth--maybe we
still will see the day when an international court will arraign Geo Bush for war crimes
in the same way that Israel abducts people in other countries for trial without much
regard for another nation's laws.
Our treatment of prisoners in this war ought to merit a trial of Bush with just as much
foundation as any thing in WWII--that is, if acctual justice were te goal in any war trials.
In face, the "winners" always determine justice--and a real trial becomes a mockery leaving
us al wih no real insight into why a righteous cause turns monstrous---and humans repeat
the whole tragedy over and over. j gorman

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:54 PM on 03/31/2008

I wonder how many of the so-called "moderate" Republicans who sold their souls to right wing Bible-thumpers in return for power wish Hagel never existed. Every time they look at him, they must be reminded that they could have chosen an honourable course of action, and they failed.

Too many people blame Bush and Cheney and the neo-cons. The fact of the matter is that they could have done nothing without the support, or at least the silence, of the moderates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:35 AM on 03/31/2008

Chuck Hagel is to be commended, he was against going into Iraq from the get go and made his feelings known. One of the GOP few with a brain, and an understanding of what the outcome would be.
Too bad some of his coherts didn't step away from the kool aid long enough to let their brains take over instead of their glee in taking over an oil rich nation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 03/31/2008

True, but you'll also notice he's basically being run out of the party.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 AM on 03/31/2008

Poor Chuck got to the party late and we who hated the war from Day One drank all the booze and ate all the hors d' oeuvres.
Too little, too late my friend.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 03/30/2008

How about the people who were right about the war being wrong? Are we ever going to get a chance
to vote for them? Are we ever going to get a chance to hear them? Oh well guess I'll just go to Mall-Wart
and buy more stuff. It takes my mind off all this unpleasantness. War is so icky. Glad my kids aren't
over there.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 03/30/2008

I disagree that Hagel has had a magnaminous change of heart and has distanced himself from Bush "because of history". Pullease!! He only is thinking of himself and certainly not the country. He is now suddenly aware that just maybe he may charged with war crimes -- he certainly is aligned with all the votes that constitute war crimes -- and is laying the pathetic cowardly groundwork "just in case there is accountability " (read: Obama). Pathetic. I hope he pays for his crimes.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 PM on 03/30/2008

That's complete BS. You have no idea about what Hagel has said or done but you pass judgement nevertheless. Pathetic indeed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:32 AM on 03/31/2008

Mystic, I think you have a very mystic view of the way this thing is going to play out. War crimes? Have you lived in America for the past eight years? No one's going to jail for this thing nor should they. That would effectively stop any public official from making touch choices ever. I don't agree with this war but war crimes? Hardly.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 AM on 03/31/2008

Authorizing torture would NOT constitute a war crime?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:29 AM on 03/31/2008

Hagel has not had a magnaminous change of heart, he has spoken out throughout the war! Google Chuck Hagel on youtube.com, he has been speaking for me (a Democrat) for years. He has voiced his decent since the start, mainstream media just doesn't cover what he says.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:19 PM on 03/30/2008

How about "high crimes and misdemeanors" and/or "criminal negligence" as the more accurate descriptions of what this administration has done to America, and to the world.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:39 PM on 03/30/2008

Chuck selling "Ear Candy".

Hey Chuck, how many votes against the war did you tally?
How many votes against party agenda did you tally?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 03/30/2008

How many votes against the war? MANY, and it is easy to find out. Hagel has voted with the dems on almost everything for quite some time, including on torture, habeas corpus, closing Gitmo, etc.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:44 AM on 03/31/2008

In case you missed these:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBL8hFFyE0o " Chuck Hagel with Jack Cafferty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSJuYEhGw94 " Chuck Hagel on Real Time with Bill Maher
Chuck Hagel has been speaking out against the war on numerous occasions. I thought his comments on Real Time with Bill Maher would be news,it wasn't. Britney got more coverage for driving her car in sun glasses. Mainstream media only focus on Republicans who follow George W. and their views of the war. Mainstream media are war cheerleaders, not representative of actual views of the war. They silence critics by not covering their decent. I"m a Democrat, but I applaud Republicans who are willing to stand up for America first and party second.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:07 PM on 03/30/2008

Connie...

you say... "I applaud Republicans who are willing to stand up for America first and party second."

That's a lovely sentiment....
I, on the other hand, am only willing to support those who speak-out with their vote... not just those who jabber.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:30 AM on 03/31/2008

DISSENT - It would be decent of you to learn how to spell

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:05 AM on 03/31/2008

Another Republican leaves The Church of Bush. I tend to like Hagel, as much as a lefty can like a Rethug. However, if he really wants to repent he should come over to the Democratic side. Otherwise, his newly found enlightenment is just a campaign tactic in an election year.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:15 PM on 03/30/2008

That sounds great and everything except you forgot to read the article. Hagel is NOT seeking reelection this year. He actually said that almost a year ago I believe.

Not to mention you're another of the people commenting on this story that doesn't realize Chuck's been speaking out about this war since the beginning.

I live in Nebraska and I'm a Democrat. Hagel is and has always been much more outspoken about the war than even our democratic blue-dog senator Ben Nelson. In this case the republican in my state represents my views more than the democrat.

Hagel didn't "leave the church of bush" he is actually an independent thinker. His foreign policy views fall in line with the traditional non-intervention conservative views.

Of course he is a republican which means I don't agree with 90 percent of his domestic policy views but what he's saying is not any different from what any democrat is saying about the war. He's more articulate than some Dem's even i would say.

Basically...dude's smart....leave him alone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:56 AM on 03/31/2008

Unfortunately, I don't remember Sen. Hagel speaking ou tin public quite in the same manner he speaks now and in his book. If he had, maybe the train would have gotten derailed. However, I guess it was a case of Party first, Country second.

It's too bad because I thin Hagel has a pretty good view on most things except where his loyalties should be placed.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 PM on 03/30/2008

Hagel was a voice of Republican reason on the war before it began. In the run up to the war he was once derisively referred to in a Weekly Standard article as Chuck Hagel, R-France. Despite his independent views of the war he is also very conservative and in a recent year, perhaps 2006, was the Senator most likely to vote in agreement with Bush's position on Senate bills.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 AM on 03/31/2008

Hagel has been speaking out against the war for a few years now. Where the hell have you been? He's one of the few Republicans that have done so. The only reason the post invasion war votes have gone Bush's way is because nobody is willing to cut off funds for the troops. We're caught between a rock and a hard place.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 03/30/2008

Sadly tho the only Republican to vote against authorizing Bush to go in was Lincoln Chafee and not Hagel. Only 21 Democrats and 1 Independent.
NAYs ---23
Akaka (D-HI), Bingaman (D-NM), Boxer (D-CA)' Byrd (D-WV), Chafee (R-RI), Conrad (D-ND), Corzine (D-NJ), Dayton (D-MN), Durbin (D-IL), Feingold (D-WI), Graham (D-FL), Inouye (D-HI), Jeffords (I-VT), Kennedy (D-MA), Leahy (D-VT), Levin (D-MI), Mikulski (D-MD), Murray (D-WA), Reed (D-RI), Sarbanes (D-MD), Stabenow (D-MI), Wellstone (D-MN), and Wyden (D-OR) 21 D"s I R 1 I

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:42 AM on 03/31/2008

The father of Sgt keith Maupin, a soldier who was report MIA in 2004 was informed that his sons remains have been identified and his status had been changed to KIA (killin in action). So now we have 4008 that should have never have died for the lies from Bush and the Neocons who have betrayed this country.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 PM on 03/30/2008

Well - I guess arrogance and incompetence ARE the hallmarks of this administration. It might be funny if they meant well. But they don't. The Bush administration is an arrogant, incompetent gang of criminals. Point that out in your next book Senator.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 PM on 03/30/2008

I don't think people realize the power of this elite to punish free speech. Perhaps Hagel does not have children who can be blackballed secretly and persecuted by this homeland securitat. Perhaps he intends to have no social life. But they will punish him by some smear or covert op because no public figure can be allowed to seriously speak objectively about American Mideast policy or history.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 PM on 03/30/2008

This is not only Bush's war, it also belongs to all the Republicans,including Hagel and more than enough Democrats who went along with this folly every step of the way. Let's not leave out our corporate media too. It also belongs to all the people who voted for these jokers and didn't complain about anything they were doing. This occupation is going to do to us what Afghanistan did to the Soviet Union.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 PM on 03/30/2008

I'm sorry, but your comments about Chuck Hagel being included with George W. on this war is wrong. Chuck Hagel stood up on the Senate Floor and called all the ones supporting the war out. Take a look at this video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ZCeUhLkGto
There are many videos of Chuck Hagel on youtube.com. I don't think you'll find one of him supporting George W., or the war in Iraq.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 03/30/2008

Hi,

As Hillary has said, the President was given the authority to attack Iraq and did not wait for the weapons inspectors to do their job.

I wonder why? If the inspectors reported that there were no weapons of mass destruction, there would not have been a reason to invade.

The President and his advisors would not listen to our military commanders concerning troop levels needed.

The Iraqi army which initially was supporting us in the invasion aftermath was disbanded without any debate about it!! We have seen the result of that move despite the administration's protestations to the contrary.

The question now, is what next?? Will the Presidential candidates (McCain, Obama and Clinton) even talk about what next much less in anything more than a 30 second soundbite??

What do U think???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 03/30/2008

I love that poster of Al-Sadr.

He's got an evil, "We're gonna beat a superpower at it's own game" stare that's unmatched. Dick Cheney's smirk comes in a distant second. I reckon it's going to go down in history like the posters of Che, and the Ayatollah. But he's a fat guy. He could become the first world famous fat-dude icon.

I reckon this is what happens when ONE SOLITARY person has faith, whether it's Ho Chi Minh, or whoever, that THEY ARE GONNA PREVAIL. That cosmic forces beyond guns and bombs are on their side. That the other side has lost the MORAL HIGH GROUND.

Tell me, does anyone THINK GWB has that look of faith? He's more like a four year old pitching a temper tantrum to me -- and getting his way from panty-waisted parents --- Congress! He wants to win, thinks war is "romantic" but not romantic enough to have served in Vietnam, or made any sacrifices from his own family. He's sold his soul to the devil, not for a cause that's just (like kicking an occupying country out of the USA) but for oil, for ego, for his friends in the defence biz.

It's the fat boy versus the frat boy.

I predict the posters of fat-boy Muqtada Al-Sadr are gonna be a painful reminder of America's little unprovoked Middle-Eastern misadventure 20 years from now.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:48 PM on 03/30/2008

"the first world famous fat-dude icon"? I believe Budda has him beat by a couple of thousand years.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:43 PM on 03/30/2008

You know I read these comments and all I could think of is what a bunch of hypocrites. If you were really so upset about the dead, the war then why aren't you doing something positive to end it?

You sit in the comfort of your homes spouting off criticism and worse at people who did they best they could with the information they had and who have worked their asses off in service to their country.

Its easy to sit around and condemn... Why aren't you out on the street protesting, demonstrating, practicing civil disobedience?
Why aren't you making real statements that may garner real attention, why aren't you serving your country if not by participating in government (which is you by the way) then by taking risks to push the point that the war is illegal, wrong, immoral, whatever.
Chain yourselves en masse to the fence around the White House, don't get pushed into free speech zones. Interrupt the senate, find a way to make the media pay attention, again... NO free speech zones. (that is ironic isn't it?)

DO SOMETHING!
I'm so sick of seeing the same middle aged and older faces doing the work they have been doing for decades while the rest sit around and point fingers. If you are busy working you can't be spending so much time in self righteous hatred.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 03/30/2008

yea, yea, yea,-----------------

With all due respect, Senator Hagel, what you have summarized is now all well known. Now explain why you and your colleagues have not hunted down every one of these buffoons that got us in this mess by lying to the American people and violating every moral and ethical mandate (not to mention all of the laws). It is like everyone has just accepted the illegality and incompetence, and are waiting for the next guy to take a shot. Almost like the errant child who has spilled grape juice on the carpet, we are waiting for the little boy to leave the room. These folks should be prosecuted to fullest extent of the law. They should not be writing books, appearing on Faux news or flying around the middle east with a full security detail on a travel junket in their C-17 at taxpayers expense. Stop selling books and going on news shows and telling us what we already know and kick y our colleagues in the ass and take these guys down.

Skindoggy

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:23 PM on 03/30/2008

How many times did you vote to support Bush?

Are you now saying that you regretted your actions?

Any of them?

Which ones?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 PM on 03/30/2008

It is so refreshing to hear a politician who can think for himself, express different views than their party, and discuss a dire situation with such honesty. He will pay a price by being criticized ad nauseum by the neocons. He is worth more than any other senator in his party. He has the courage to stand against his party on this issue. You are an honorable man, Senator Hagel!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:06 PM on 03/30/2008

which is why he is not seeking re-election. he has cut himself off from his party by not marching in lock step.

he is a man without a party.

a noble man, for sure, but a lonely. party-less man.

at least he can sleep at night knowing that he is no longer blindly supporting the disaster in the white house,.

more power to you, mr. hagel

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:55 PM on 03/30/2008

Your right he is a man. He would be a great VP or Sec. of State for President Obama. Bipartisan at it's finest. Hagel don't mince words. Refreshing. (plus he could kick the dogshit out of dubbya)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 PM on 03/30/2008