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Sam Stein

The Huffington Post

Durbin On Clinton Camp Raising Wright: Try Your Best

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April 2, 2008 10:33 AM


About Sam Stein

Sam Stein is a Political Reporter at the Huffington Post, based in Washington, D.C. Previously he has worked for Newsweek magazine, the New York Daily News and the investigative journalism group Center for Public Integrity. He has a masters from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalism and is a graduate of Dartmouth College. Sam can be reached at stein@huffingtonpost.com.

Sen. Dick Durbin, one of Barack Obama's chief surrogates, said on Wednesday morning that Sen. Hillary Clinton was within her right to use Obama's controversial former pastor as a method to persuade superdelegate support.

But, he added, such a move would likely not bear political fruit.

"Harold Ickes [one of Clinton's chief strategists] can try whatever he'd like to try by way of tactics to win the superdelegates," said Durbin. "But I believe that most of them feel as I do, that Barack Obama has handled this is a responsible way and in a way we would like to see from the president."

On Tuesday, it was reported that Ickes, in an effort to recruit superdelegates to the Clinton camp, had raised the specter of fierce Republican attacks on Obama's relationship to Reverend Jeremiah Wright.

"Superdelegates have to take into account the strengths and weakness of both candidates and decide who would make the strongest candidate against what will undoubtedly be ferocious Republican attacks," Ickes told Talking Points Memo. "I've had super delegates tell me that the Wright issue is a real issue for them."

The statement, while relatively predictable, was the first public admission that the Clinton camp was privately using Wright for political leverage. And while Durbin suggested that it would prove ineffective -- "What has happened since [Obama's] Philadelphia [race] speech is that the ground lost initially has been regained," he told The Huffington Post -- conversations with several uncommitted superdelegates suggested the pastor problem could play a mix role in affecting their decisions.

In the end, much may depend on geography.

According to Nathan Smith, a superdelegate and Kentucky Democratic Party vice chairman, Wright is likely to have a massive impact on voters in his state and geographic region. And, consequently, could affect his judgment when choosing a nominee.

"Poor white people are freaked out by Wright," said Smith. "It has hurt [Obama] bad West Virginia and Kentucky. You can go down the Ohio River and it is ugly. He is going to take an ass whooping... These are not traditional southern racists. They are poor income whites who are shocked. They woke up one morning and said, 'I think he's black!' They were just in a daze. 'He wouldn't tell his preacher to stop that?' ... These are the people who wrapped themselves in the flag for George W. Bush. It is not about him being black it is about the god damn American comment. This is not a religious thing it is about patriotism."

On the other side of the equation is a superdelegate from the west coast who (asking for anonymity) said the Wright issue had died down in his state. Political pressure on the matter, he added, now broke down on the candidate line: concern from Clinton supporters and dismissal from Obama backers.

"It depends to some degree whom you are talking to," he said. "I had a passionate Clinton supporter come into my office and rail about it. My reaction is that I grew up on the south side of Chicago. I can understand exactly what is going on here and I don't think it is a factor at all in making an assessment to Senator Obama... I think I see it dying down. What I get a sense of from the press coverage and the folks that are in the middle - and there aren't too many - I don't think it is moving people one way or another."


 
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- SDgirl I'm a Fan of SDgirl 4 fans permalink

Icky Ickes, take this.....
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IinWhv-vCIs#

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:04 PM on 04/02/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

That is so hilarious, SDgirl. Thanks for posting it. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 04/02/2008

Haha.

Watch the grandmother in the corner. In my head, that's Bill Clinton in disguise. *not amused*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:56 PM on 04/02/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

That was definately a good laugh. Hahahah!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:07 PM on 04/02/2008

An Obama flak pretending the cancer of Wright's proximity to his candidate is a non-issue.

Much like stating that Monica Lewinsky was a non-issue in the Clinton impeachment proceedings.

What a bunch of bull$#*!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/02/2008
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It IS a non-issue. The only ones who are still talking about it are people who never would have voted for Obama in the first place. Like you. For everyone else, we saw Obama respond to the controversy by attacking it head-on, giving a speech that many consider the best in a generation. In other words, responding in a manner presidential.

Obama has more than rebounded in the polls; he's actually been strengthened by the whole ordeal. The issue itself is less important than how he dealt with it, and as we all saw, he handled it with world-class grace. So, fan the faux outrage all you want, you and Harold Ickes. You'll have no affect. The rest of us have moved on.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:32 PM on 04/02/2008
- 2351 I'm a Fan of 2351 3 fans permalink

For those of you who would like to contact Nathan Smith, vice chair of the democratic party in Kentucky, here is his address. You can also reach him by email at kydemocrat.comt.com. I don't appreciate him making presumptuous statements about Kentuckians. There are many intelligent people in Kentucky who do not agree with him. I think that his statements were offensive to whites and blacks.

Contact Us190 Democrat Drive
Frankfort, KY 40601

Mailing Address:
P.O. Box 694
Frankfort, KY 40602

Phone: (502) 695-4828
Fax: (502) 695-7629

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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Another Obamamaniac trying to suppress opposition opinion.

What are they supposed to do, threaten the guy to SHUT UP?

It makes me sick how all the Obamaites are attempting to squelch any kind of negative information attached to their candidate.

Well, Wright IS an issue, and why did he cling to him for over 20+ as his Spiritual Leader and Mentor. The more we find out about Obama, the more I wonder about him, and I'M NOT from the South.
I'm a born and raised New Yorker. I don't let others make up my mind for me, I weigh the facts, and MAKE up my OWN mind.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/02/2008
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((( "Another Obamamaniac trying to suppress opposition opinion." )))

It's called democracy and free speech. And for the record, you can't "suppress" anything unless you're in a position of power -- like the government, for example.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:40 PM on 04/02/2008
- adl I'm a Fan of adl 6 fans permalink

If you truly weighed the "facts" you wouldn't have made your assessment of Wright based on a few soundbites. In fact, you wouldn't make an assessment of him even by listening to all the soundbite sermons because they still only comprise a mere fraction of sermons he's given in his whole career.

The poster above is not trying to make the guy shut up. However she/he has just as much right to voice an opinion about the comment as the commenter had in making the comment.

And, a lot of people think the racism in the North is worse than that in the South, so your NY background doesn't really mean anything.

And, all campaigns try to "squelch any kind of negative information attached to their candidate" although I doubt this poster is a member of the Obama campaign.

And, NO Rev. Wright is NOT and issue. Just because you yell and try to intimidate doesn't make your points more valid.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:11 PM on 04/02/2008

Obama liked his Pastor--like hundreds and hundreds of other people. I don't now if you have watched or read the whole sermons from which these clips are taken, but it's pretty apparent that Pastor Wright is rabidly anti-war, anti-violence; in fact, that leaning is really where the sermon is coming from. So I would think Obama is probably anti-war too. I'm just hoping anyway that the Revernd did brainwash him for twenty years with his hatred of American Governemnt nuking Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and his hatred of Japanese internment camps, and his hatred of our foreign policy blunder killing at least a half million civilians in Iraq. I like Pastor Wright's sermons, though I don't agree with every second of them--I hope,that in essence, Obama does agree with the majority of what Wright says about the cycle of violence. I want it to stop. I bet Obama does too. Good hing he ran into Pastor W. And you are correct--a guy like that can be dangerous to the sttus quo. At least that's what I'm hoping.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:16 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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You mean: "CONACT HIM to SHUT HIM UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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Are you trying to strong arm this individual for speaking out?

This seems very threatening and intimidating what you are attempting to achieve here.

Fanatical Obama supporters (redundant) will NOT allow for any contrary voice when it concerns their leader.

This is very scary

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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Seems like you're trying to SHUT this GUY UP.

Is that the way we handle things that are less than flattering to your "PURE" and "FLAWLESS" candidate?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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These are agressive strong arm tactics are disgraceful.

Is that how we do things - suppress and contrary voices?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:39 PM on 04/02/2008

This comment from the Kentucky vice-chair of the Democratic party is a bunch of bull:

"It is not about him being black it is about the god damn American comment. This is not a religious thing it is about patriotism."

Anyone who thinks the reaction against Obama (for the Rev Wright comments) does not stem from racial fears/biases, is smoking something very sweet. The fact of the matter is, that many of the lower-income white voters in Ohio, WV, and Kentucky will not be voting for Obama PRIMARILY because of his race. End of story.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:51 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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Aren't you lumping these people together, just as you are accusing the Kentucky representative of doing?

Are you exercising a double standing here?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:30 PM on 04/02/2008

Ya know what? The "patriotic" people elected George Bush twice. Let them sit this one out.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:44 PM on 04/02/2008
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 133 fans permalink
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Gee I looked all over the sample ballot and couldn't find Rev. Wright's name anywhere?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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It will be there subliminally.

I'm sure you will see more of him AFTER the election.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:58 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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Wait til AFTER the election.

I'm sure you'll be seeing a LOT more of him then

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:15 PM on 04/02/2008
- Plowboy I'm a Fan of Plowboy 25 fans permalink

West Virginia and Kentucky: The Huckabee response would go down with them if they saw it. And if they saw the whole of his 9/11 sermon or his "God damn" sermon, they would probably like it! But if they only see what Hillary's friend Murdock wants them to, and the bobliging MSM played, they will react as you say.
But there are indeed racists there who are very shocked that Barack is ...what color did you say?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:34 PM on 04/02/2008
- abigail1 I'm a Fan of abigail1 36 fans permalink

I am not sure how Gov Huckabee would feel about it, but Obama should put what he said into an ad and play it in Kentucky and West Virginia, maybe even in western PA.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:14 PM on 04/02/2008
- jazzman I'm a Fan of jazzman 248 fans permalink
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When people see Obama in person or hear him speak, what disappears is his color. Obama, throughout the first half of the campaign was able to transcend race not because he does not have dark skin but because his demeanor, thought, speech, and vision were transcendent to all races. The Clinton campaign sensing this decided that they had to do everything they could to paint Obama as the 'black' candidate. In other words, they had to create the filter of race to head him off. This started in South Carolina with Bill's comments and has reached its apex with the use of Wright's sermons in the Ohio, Texas, Pennsylvania, Indiana, and Kentucky primaries.

The reason it hasn't worked as well as they had hoped is because Obama is still Obama. When you hear him speak, listen to his thoughts, see where he stands he automatically projects a statesman like Presidential image. This is the image that Hillary and her campaign work overtime to tear down. The Wright issue will not go away. Hillary and her campaign staff will push it and push it and push it because it's her only last and desperate hope to keep people from seeing a truly new and emerging US phenomenon; the multi-cultural American leader.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:29 PM on 04/02/2008

I live in Louisville Kentucky and take great issue with Nathan Wrights comments. Our Kentucky for Obama office opened last Saturday. We had a crowd of around 1200 and the street had to be shut down. Obama wasn't there. In fact the only two people anyone outside of Kentucky might have heard of , our current Representative John Yarmuth and former congressman Ron Mazzoli. You could not get into the office where the line to buy Obama shirts, yard signs, buttons etc. People were signing up in droves to volunteer. The weather was horrible, cold and windy. The mood was joyful. So many people with a shared vision, breathtaking!

Meanwhile, across town, Queen Hillary was drawing a crowd of about three hundred more to the warm inside of Manual High. So the super star of vitriol barely surpassed the group assembled just to show support for our candidate.

I don't doubt that there will be some people ignorant enough to confuse Obama and his pastor as one and the same, but please don't think that it's the norm here. Most of us are able to differentiate between the head and tail of our horses and we do pretty well with people too!

BARock on!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:20 PM on 04/02/2008

Unfortunately at least 25% of our nation will despise obama and loathe him no matter what he does right. This is something that obama supporters must know. Everyone is not overjoyed with him and even when elected he's going to have a legion of people calling him unpatriotic, anti-white, arrogant, all-talk & unqualified. America is full of diverse opionions and this country is completely incapable of all falling in line behind any elected official. That's the beauty of freedom of opinion and speech. Obama supporters just get ready for the long haul cuz its about to get very very very very ugly for Obama. The Clinton machine is a lone flame to blazing fire he is going to face during the general and beyond.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:00 PM on 04/02/2008

It is important to remember that if Clinton was the nominee, the Republicans would also mount massive attacks against her. The main one that has arisen from this campaign will picture McCain as a war hero vs. Hillary making up a story about being in danger, and that will not look pretty.

But there are many attacks on the Clinton's past that have not arisen so far. They have not come from the Obama campaign because they are running on a positive tone and message. They have not come from the Republican media because they are afraid that it would help Obama become the nominee. But they will surely will come if she was to win. Superdelegates will have to balance the fear of attacks on Obama with the fear of attacks on Clinton. And they will then have to consider who is best at resisting and deflecting them. I believe it will be Obama, and that is precisely the message that Durbin has sent the superdelegates.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:24 PM on 04/02/2008
- WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 81 fans permalink

RIght. Clinton is who the Republicans want to run against. They're salivating to make it happen. They've prepared for years to run against her. The plans are already on the shelf. They'll rip her to pieces with accusation, innuendo, gossip, vicious unanswerable rumor, and direct hits to her like her Bosnia fiasco. Obama has nowhere near the "negatives" that Clinton has. The worst so far has been SOMETHING HIS PREACHER SAID! The Republicans aren't entirely sure how to run against Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:43 PM on 04/02/2008

I don't think it matters Woody. That point is moot at present. Well, at least after these two candidates get done hacking one another up. There will be plenty of defectors who will not vote for either one on general principle alone! Count on it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:28 PM on 04/02/2008
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"The Republicans aren't entirely sure how to run against Obama."

Especially when he starts debating McBush. Look for an earplug.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:36 PM on 04/02/2008

Just remember this, Clintons Old Pastor is protesting Rev. Wrights treadment by the media and the rest of the world. Clintonsole pastor also only has good thing to say about Wright! So know are Clinton supporters going to condemn HILLARY because her pastor is standing tall beside Pastor wright and saying good things about this man you Hillary supporters are condemning. How do you think this would work in the Media if it got a life like wild fire. Hate Hillary, Condemn Hillary because her Pastor is supporting Obama's pastor? I always say, "What come around, goes Around". IT'S COMEING AROUND AND I THINK SOME OF THE SUPERDELEGATES IS ALREADY WIEGHTING UP THE TALK FROM THE HILLARY CAMP TOWARD OBAMA USEING REV. WRIGHT-------------------AND THAN THIS STORY BREAKS AND THEY SAY-----------WHAT THE HECK IS THE CLINTONS DOING! putting theier pastor and Obama's pastor down? talking about throwing someone under the bus!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/02/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

Reverend Wright is simply the excuse for Buchanan's "whiteys" to not vote for the *black* candidate that they would never have voted for anyway. Very transparent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 PM on 04/02/2008

How narrow minded and racist. How did this EVER make it by a moderator. You are in desperate need of a mental health technician. Oh wait! You were kidding weren't you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 04/02/2008
- robXdion I'm a Fan of robXdion 186 fans permalink
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Because its the TRUTH. That's why.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:10 PM on 04/02/2008

Those are Pat Buchanon's words. He used the term "whitey" in a article recently. Of in an an attempt to slander Obama.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:31 PM on 04/02/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

Actually, I don't know how YOUR comment got past the mods. I could be wrong, but I thought insulting another poster, which is what you just did, was against the tos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:53 PM on 04/02/2008
- Ramirez I'm a Fan of Ramirez 292 fans permalink
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I see you're keeping it simple:
Anyone who doesn't vote for Obama is a racist .

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 04/02/2008

Bingo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/02/2008
- butch5 I'm a Fan of butch5 3 fans permalink

No, that's not what I think PJay is saying. I think (and I agree) that Wright gives the racists a clearer conscience about not voting for Obama since they were not going to vote for him because he was Black.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 PM on 04/02/2008

YUP. And if he is frightening to some on the fence folks, they need to do the homework. Read the whole sermon on CNN.com or get the YOUTUBE version the news won't show cause if i did, it couldn't chew on this. Wright is rabidly anti-war. He is hates American foreign policy, which has depended on war to enforce itself. What America has called "collateral damage," Wright calls murder. He stands against what he sees as government-sanctioned mass murder of civilians, no matter under whose flag He expresses sadness and shock about 9/11. He reiterates exactly what a conservative Admiral said on FOX. And he's got some whacko theories, but none as inflammatory or malicious as the white ministers MSM and conservatives have made into cultural icons.

READ. RESEARCH. Television MSM is a threat to democracy. Wright and his church are not the soundbite and if a superdelegate has any brains he/she knows this.

They should be much more afraid of Hillary's pathological lying, spending, stealing, swindling. For a good analysis of her behavioral problems, see KOS diary: "Is Hillary a Sociopath?" posted recently. She's scary. Wright's scary if you find peacenicks like Joan Baez, Ghandi, and Berrigan Brothers scary. Some people do. That's anoher discussion though.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:07 PM on 04/02/2008
- Tulka2 I'm a Fan of Tulka2 301 fans permalink
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PJay gives an astute analysis of the Buchanan pov and the people he influences. I am guessing DessertLight does not read Buchanan's newspaper column, eh? Because, the people who are turned off by a black preacher, preaching to his congregation, would never have voted for him anyway. This is their excuse. Have you seen Pat Buchanan go all red-faced about this? He is so over. Over. I am Irish and respect his brain and, by God, he does speak American, but his fatal flaw has always been racism.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/02/2008
- PJay I'm a Fan of PJay 6 fans permalink

Pat Buchanan, Joe Scarborough, Tucker Carlson, Andrea Mitchell, Dan Abrams are the reasons I no longer watch msnbc, except for Keith Olbermann.

I will, however, watch Senator Obama on Hardball's College Tour tonight.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:29 PM on 04/02/2008
- LeftLeaner I'm a Fan of LeftLeaner 26 fans permalink
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Sure.

Just watching that Hysterical man spew the hate to his congregation - people who rely on their pastor for spiritual guidance - made my skin crawl.

Keep closing your eyes and mind to reality.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:18 PM on 04/02/2008
- adl I'm a Fan of adl 6 fans permalink

He wasn't spewing hate. You have NO idea what a mostly black congregation in the heart of the southside of Chicago needs from its church or its minister and you have no interest in actually educating yourself. People like you can't seem to acknowledge that your view is not the only world view out there. You also can't stand that the people of that church and many other churches don't need or want your permission to have the views they want to have. You seem to actually think that they have some kind of obligation to you to ask your permission and to run by you everything they want to say to make sure it's acceptable to you and those like you and the fact that they can actually think for themselves and find you utterly irrelevant is what most likely makes your skin crawl. You know absolutely nothing about them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:37 PM on 04/02/2008
- DMHendrix I'm a Fan of DMHendrix 108 fans permalink
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According to Nathan Smith, a superdelegate and Kentucky Democratic Party vice chairman, Wright is likely to have a massive impact on voters in his state and geographic region. And, consequently, could affect his judgment when choosing a nominee.

"Poor white people are freaked out by Wright," said Smith. "It has hurt [Obama] bad West Virginia and Kentucky. You can go down the Ohio River and it is ugly. He is going to take an ass whooping... These are not traditional southern racists. They are poor income whites who are shocked. They woke up one morning and said, 'I think he's black!' They were just in a daze. 'He wouldn't tell his preacher to stop that?' ... These are the people who wrapped themselves in the flag for George W. Bush. It is not about him being black it is about the god damn American comment. This is not a religious thing it is about patriotism."
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I am MORE than shocked that a "black" man is going to get an "ass whooping" in West Virginia and Kentucky. These areas are STILL to this day a strong hold for George Bush and were NOT going to vote for Obama anyway, under any circumstance. Nothing that Mr. Smith said in this quote will surprise anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:13 PM on 04/02/2008
- margotb822 I'm a Fan of margotb822 7 fans permalink
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If their biggest gripe is what Wright said about 9/11, they should take a look back at what the RW evangelicals said. That was much more horriffic and repulsive than anything Wright has said.

But, their small minds will never actually watch the entire clip. They'll take it out of context and continue to scare themselves. It's sad that people have become so conditioned to take sides that an analysis of a situation looks like hatred to them.


www.serveoutloud.blogspot.com

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:37 PM on 04/02/2008
- vippy I'm a Fan of vippy 77 fans permalink

Anyone claiming they never said that in one way or another is lying. Not when one is involved
in politics and sees how the people get screwed over by the ruling class. I don't see where
the remark by Reverend Wright is so despicable. I have to agree with many things he said,
the a country to be called progressive around the world it is a shame that its people are so
backwards and still have to address "racism" and even more hypocritical when it comes to
religion like it is a part of our politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:46 PM on 04/02/2008
- WoodyCPM I'm a Fan of WoodyCPM 81 fans permalink

Being from Kentucky, I can say that you're correct. They weren't going to vote for Obama anyway. The only way Obama can win KY is if he gets overwhelming support in Jefferson (Louisville), LaFayette (Lexington) and Warren County (Bowling Green), enough to overcome the rest of the state.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:47 PM on 04/02/2008
- butch5 I'm a Fan of butch5 3 fans permalink

Why do you say "they" weren't going to vote for Obama?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:15 PM on 04/02/2008
- 2351 I'm a Fan of 2351 3 fans permalink

And I think that he will get overwhelming support from these Kentucky cities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:02 PM on 04/02/2008
- 2351 I'm a Fan of 2351 3 fans permalink

I'm from Kentucky and Nathan Smith does not know what he is talking about. Apparently he is a Hillary fan, but Obama has a lot of black and white supporters here in Kentucky. I intend to contact Mr. Smith to tell him, that he does not speak for the majority of Kentuckians. I think that Obama needs to come here and campaign just like he has in Pennsylvania. As a matter of fact, Bill Clinton was in Frankfort, Kentucky a week ago, and I attended. There were many Obama supporters at that rally, because they wanted to just see Bill Clinton because he has been so popular. Most of the crowd were high school students that cannot vote who were given an opportunity to come and see politics in progress. So we can't just take the word of someone who appears to know what they are talking about, just because they have a title.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:50 PM on 04/02/2008

not now that Hillary and Bill Clinton Old Pastor himself is protectin Obama pastor Rev. Wright! Yep you read it right. He's standing right behind Rev. Wright. Calling him a great man and human being! So Clinton Supporters that off on wrights sermon is know red face when the Clintons Old pastor comes out to protect and stand up for the very man all you been spewing hate about! Can't get better than that for Rev. wright. So another twist in this election. And West Virginia and Kentucky has a choice KILL YOUR LOVED ONES IN ONE WAR AFTER ANOTHER AND VOTE MCCAIN IN------------OR VOTE OBAMA---------THE DEMACRATIC NOMANEE!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:26 PM on 04/02/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

"This is not a religious thing it is about patriotism."

Patriotism, at least the nationalistic kind, is about religion. Pater=father. Love of the fatherland in the White Male System of dominator relationships. It's identity-politics.

I believe it is possible to have a healthy form of patriotism, but it would not be exclusionary. It would involve love of one's country without hating any other.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:07 PM on 04/02/2008

I agree. This kind of 'patriotism" is the worst kind. Right or wrong your country is always right. Kill thousands, take away jobs, start illegal wars - your country is always right. Many folks will not vote for Obama because they see race. They never hear his words, his inspirational tone, his appeal to our better selves. The Buchanans of this country will always have that 'racial hate thing" in their hearts. If they have the bully pulpit they will preach it because they know they have an audience to hear it.
We can beat these people this time by not letting them get away with 'racial remarks' disguised as patriotism. We can write blogs, call in to c-span, talk radio, etc. We gotta let them know we will not take it this time, no, no not this time.....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:49 PM on 04/02/2008
- Gma11 I'm a Fan of Gma11 12 fans permalink

I thought Durbin was a Clinton surrogate?!

Hasn't he endorsed her?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/02/2008

He's been with Obama from the start.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:25 PM on 04/02/2008
- Cedman I'm a Fan of Cedman 28 fans permalink

There is an element who believe he is a Muslim too, remember? Fortunately, they are mostly the same people that think he is a Christian, Black seperatist. The Clinton's are, and have been, playing to these fears since Iowa. Its what they do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:01 PM on 04/02/2008
- mark77 I'm a Fan of mark77 2 fans permalink

Media portrayals that "Obama spent 20 years sitting in that church listening to that stuff" is simply wrong. He's been focused on his political career for the past 20 years. He was at church for maybe 2 hours on Sunday (if he was even able to go that regularly). The rest of his 100 waking hours in the week were spent at Harvard Law, on community organizing, teaching at the University of Chicago, working with colleagues in the Illinois Senate and US Senate, etc.

Many of his classmates and professors from college know him well and support him.

Many of his colleagues and students at the University of Chicago know him well and support him.

His campaign staff and office staff know him well and support him.

Many of his colleagues in the Illinois State Senate and US Senate know him well and support him.

Thousands of people from Obama's life have come out to support him. In any given week over the past 20 years, these are the people he spends the vast majority of his time with, not his pastor. If people are going to judge him on the company he keeps, then judge him on ALL the company he keeps.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:59 PM on 04/02/2008
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