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Elizabeth Edwards: Favors Clinton's Health Plan, Says Obama's 'Not Universal,' Slams McCain's As Ineffective

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April 2, 2008 12:20 PM


Elizabeth Edwards continued her passionate advocacy of universal health care on today's morning shows, appearing on both The Today Show and Morning Joe. Edwards noted her preference for the health care plan devised by Hillary Clinton, stating that it's mandated coverage made it the only truly "universal" health plan between Clinton and Barack Obama: "It means every American has to be covered. Senator Obama means every child has to be covered. I think we need to go the full nine yards." Edwards also continued to criticize the health care plan put forth by John McCain, saying, "He's the beneficiary of some great government programs. But in terms of private insurance, he would not be guaranteed coverage under his own plan. Neither would I or anybody with a pre-existing condition."

EDWARDS: Senator McCain has a health care policy that frankly does not guarantee him or me or a lot of Americans, certainly the people I'm going to go see this morning to get my treatment next to this morning, those people are not guaranteed treatment, not guaranteed insurance coverage.


BRZEZINSKI: So you're saying that McCain wouldn't get coverage under his own plan?

EDWARDS: He's the beneficiary of some great government programs. But in terms of private insurance, he would not be guaranteed coverage under his own plan. Neither would I or anybody with a pre-existing condition. Imagine how many families that involves across this country.
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SCARBOROUGH: Which plan is better? Which plan covers more Americans? The Clinton plan or the Obama plan?

EDWARDS: In my view, the Clinton plan provides, because it provides a mandate. It means every American has to be covered. Senator Obama means every child has to be covered. I think we need to go the full nine yards and make certain we have -- I'm not very good at cliches, is that the cliche. It ought to be ten yards, wouldn't it?

SCARBOROUGH: Well, not if it's fourth and nine.

EDWARDS: In any event, we want to make certain that every American is covered. In fact, this is also -- Senator McCain does not cover every American. The way that you really keep down the costs of health insurance is that you have universality. You're still going to have everybody cost shifting, trying to cover the cost of the uninsured or cover the cost of people who have an exclusion that doesn't cover this particular condition. You're always going to have this cost-shifting, and that keeps costs up -- to keep costs down, you really need everybody covered.

[WATCH.]

When asked about the possibility of forthcoming endorsements from either her or husband John, Edwards begged off, saying, "We believe both of these candidates would make fine presidents and fine nominees for the party and certainly, particularly with respect to health care, a significant improvement over John McCain and we think our endorsement may be a little less important than y'all do." Edwards also disputed reports of lingering rancor between she, her husband, and Senator Obama: "I did not find him condescending. He was charming...as was Senator Clinton, and I have absolutely no idea where this report comes from."

In related news, Elizabeth Edwards will serve as a visiting fellow to Harvard's Kennedy School of Government next week.


 
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I am a recent registered Democrat only to cast my vote for Sen. Obama in an upcoming primary. I didn't hear Elizabeth Edwards endorse either canidate. Elizabeth said she favors Clinton's health plan over Obama's plan. It boggles my mind that so many concluded Edwards has endorsed Hillary. So What! The last time I knew we live in a country that allows one to think and form an opinion. George W Bush is not the only idiot that thinks he's right all the time. Finally! If the people in this country continue to fight over silly arguments we will all lose. Repeat after me China and Japan. Who's laughing now?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 04/02/2008

Thank You!
Well said.

I now feel compelled to thank and bless people that have some kind of common sense and decency.

At this point anyone who doesn't lash out in ugliness deserves a medal. The rest deserve a smack up side the head.

Peace out!
LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:55 PM on 04/02/2008

and we'll especially lose if Obama gets the nominee or president.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 04/02/2008
- rebeccaj I'm a Fan of rebeccaj 6 fans permalink

The legislation was called the: Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002,[1] a law passed by the United States Congress in October 2002 as Public Law No: 107-243, authorizing the Iraq War.

A weasely speech doesn't change the law that Hillary voted for!

Just be honest about it.

It is so incredibly sad to me that so many feminists and political figures I admire will not deal with this issue honestly.

I guess they don't have brothers who were lucky enough to survive one Iraq deployment. and don't want to press their luck again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:23 PM on 04/02/2008
- rebeccaj I'm a Fan of rebeccaj 6 fans permalink

sorry, the above was supposed to go somewhere else!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 04/02/2008
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Might I also add.....the piss poor healthcare our wounded vets are recieving is a drop in the bucket compared to what they actually need. This government is a disgrace, and before you VOTE for war, you had better be DAMN prepared for the casulties and the wounds....and KNOW if your VA Hosptials are up to snuff and capable of handling the onslaught. Clearly, Clinton followed the Rumsfeld theory...you don't go to war with the army and supplies you want or need....you go to war with what you got.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:29 PM on 04/02/2008

Elizabeth Edwards is a great woman. She is married to the man who, had the media given as much coverage as they gave Obama and Clinton (they gave Edwards one-third the coverage) would have been our nominee, and we would not be going through what we are enduring now. As President Edwards would fight this health care battle for the American people that I fear neither Clinton nor Obama have the strength or the will to fight. I think Obama or Clinton would make a good President; Edwards would have been another Roosevelt (Teddy and FDR), and the future of our beloved country would be much brighter than it appears today.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 04/02/2008
- Binea I'm a Fan of Binea 6 fans permalink
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Maybe....But I think maybe Mr.Edwards is leaning to Clinton..he didn't sign that oath of government transparency after all..and I do wonder why."By signing the oath they are promising, should they win the presidency in 2008, that they will issue an executive order during their first month in office instructing the entire executive branch to put into practice the Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006, a Google-like search tool that will allow taxpayers to hop online and see exactly how their tax dollars are being spent on federal contracts, grants and earmarks.
Making the government more accountable to taxpayers, and more transparent, is a non-partisan issue, which is why a diverse, wide array of three dozen organizations from across the nation has joined the effort.
"Every American has the right to know how the government spends their tax dollars, but for too long that information has been largely hidden from public view," notes Sen. Obama.
Rep. Paul explains, "When government spends the people’s money, it must be done with utmost possible transparency."
Since these comments reflect such a basic principle of accountability, one is left wondering what Hillary Clinton, John Edwards, John McCain, Fred Thompson, Mitt Romney and Rudy Giuliani have against providing taxpayers with details on how well their money is spent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:33 PM on 04/02/2008

totally agree Rebelfriend! ( with the Edwards part)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:10 PM on 04/02/2008
- gwhizz I'm a Fan of gwhizz 19 fans permalink

Amen!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 AM on 04/03/2008

Dear Koy..... All I was saying is that most on this post are just minor birds repeating Rhetoric and not investigating the real health-care plans and there differences. I agree, healthcare is a very important issue and as Obama says his plan will start with a childrens plan, so you'll still be without, Hillary says cover everyone now!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/02/2008

Yes, hillary's plan calls for universal coverage. What Mrs. Edwards neglected to mention is that in a million years, hillary's health care plan ain't getting through Congress.

Mrs. Edwards's comment does raise another issue: Who the hell cares what she thinks? She's the wife of a politician. Smart, sure. But her husband isn't even in office.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/02/2008

Is your husband in office? Or should I just ignore you?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 04/02/2008

I care what she thinks and so do many others. And once again, her husband has been in office and tried to run for the president's job only to have an Obama loving blatantly biased media shut him out of coverage so the peope couldn't hear his message that he is going to stop all this corporate bull sh** and that is the ones who control the media. so hello?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:14 PM on 04/02/2008
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I don't think anyones healthcare plan looks good....face it...anything that "involves' insurance companies does not benefit the consumer. Insurance companies will forever be protecting their profits, and so long as a humans life competes with "profits" you can bet....money beats life everytime.

Michael Moore, for all his faults, hit the nail on the head in SICKO. Single payer healthcare is the only alternative that will benefit AMERICANS. Anything else is just a band-aide.

On paper or in theory the Clinton healthcare plan looks good....however, it doesn't have a prayer in legislation. Very few politicians are going to endorse a plan that will require penalizing or "garnishing" wages. Furthermore, this plan only means to benefit insurance companies who are salivating at the idea of having every american paying into their bottom line....and trust me...having been the spouse of an AETNA employee....I've seen how your money is spent from the bottom up, and it would make your stomach turn.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:21 PM on 04/02/2008

Exactly, thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:27 PM on 04/02/2008

Yeah, at Guantanamo you'll get water-boarded but you'll get better health care. With the state of healthcare as it is it pay to be a hypochondriac to avoid catastrophic illness.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:58 PM on 04/02/2008
- sandpiper1 I'm a Fan of sandpiper1 13 fans permalink



Exactly, why have insurance companies involved in the first place. Why don't they set up a real universal health care plan under medicaid/medicare ( sorry I am Canadian so am not sure which is which) by expanding it as it's already in place. It seems to me that it would cost less money rather than setting up a second plan. It would make much more sense having the Gov. running it like we do in Canada from Canadians' tax dollars for Canadians. I hope who ever forms the next gov. really tackle the issue head on for the good of the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 04/02/2008
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Because health care lobbyists are some of the strongest bullys on capital hill. They are the ones who pushed for Part D medicare, bans on imported canadian drugs, and are effectively the ones who shut Clinton down in 1993. One of my biggest objections to Clinton was the fact that she has been one of the largest recipients of healthcare insurance money.....either way, she is their cash cow....if she fails on her healthcare reform, that status quo remains and insurance companies are protected...if her healthcare plan goes through, then you've just added 42 million Americans and their hard earned money to your books...it's a win - win situation...and a complete LOSS for the American people.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:18 PM on 04/02/2008
- adl I'm a Fan of adl 6 fans permalink

To have one payer, you'd also have to make healthcare providers Government employees. This is not going to happen in one fell swoop. Something like this has to happen in stages.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 04/02/2008

Precisely! Thanks for sharing!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:20 PM on 04/02/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 491 fans permalink
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Regardless of who gets the nomination, congress should pass the health care plan that was put forth by John Edwards. Just because a presidential candidate favors a particular plan does not mean that plan will be implemented once the candidate is elected. What's important is that the president pass the health care bill presented by Congress. There is still time to advocate for a plan superior to both Clinton's and Obama's. And that's the Edwards plan.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/02/2008
- Binea I'm a Fan of Binea 6 fans permalink
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Obama signed the oath of Government transparency.."We all know government is plagued by red tape, isn’t efficient and doesn’t work as it should. Increasing transparency and accountability is a huge first step. But that is only half the equation. We also need policymakers to make significant changes after we all get to see the horror and reckless spending that will be revealed by shining the light on government spending and earmarks.
This means we’ll need leaders willing to cut under- or non-performing programs or activities in some cases. Initiatives at any level of government that pair transparency with accountability will set us on the road to performance-based government rather then our current system which is plagued by secrecy, wasteful spending and pork projects.
After losing the House and Senate in 2006, Republicans pledged to return to their fiscally conservative roots. Yet, with Sen. Brownback leaving the race, more Democratic presidential candidates have signed the oath than Republicans. Accountability and transparency should be embraced by both major parties.
If Edwards get's on board with Obama, this Government transparency and accountabilty will give Americans reason to once again trust thier government,When Americans are more knowlegeable, then Americans will push those they vote for much harder to do the right thing.We can then truelly make the government accountable to us and we ourselves can see if this or that program is a money pit or not.after all,we want what really works best.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:45 PM on 04/02/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 491 fans permalink
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Medicare is one of the most efficient government programs ever in existence. If we instituted a Medicare-for-All plan, with 2 percent overhead, we would cut costs drastically and have the single-payer system that this country needs. That is what I liked about the Edwards plan. It moved us toward single payer.

We don't have to wait. Ask Congresspeople how much they like their health care plan. They're on the best plan in the country. Single payer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 04/02/2008

Here here!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:16 PM on 04/02/2008

Here! Here! Edwards plan the best!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:17 PM on 04/02/2008
- Fitzy I'm a Fan of Fitzy 4 fans permalink

Massachusetts now has mandatory health insurance, which is what Hillary is proposing. Some people are having their wages garnished or are paying fines because they haven't purchased health insurance. Our dollars are being stretched to the limit these days and some legitimately cannot afford the additional expense.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:16 PM on 04/02/2008

Everyone needs to keep in mind that we are not electing a health care plan in November -- we are electing a leader. There will surely be health care reform under any administration and it will be proposed, knocked about and solidified in Congress. Congress, will study and debate all the proposals and hopefully come up with the best alternative. All we need to do is to make sure that we have a President who will not veto the best plan Congress can come up with. Vote for the best leader, not for what you think might be the best health care plan!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/02/2008
- WWJD2 I'm a Fan of WWJD2 2 fans permalink

I agree with Elizabeth Edwards. Health Care has to be mandated and Clinton's plan comes closest to providing Universal coverage. If someone is too poor to pay premiums, fees will be adjusted so they can be covered. I'm always amazed that when Barack, the "rock star", gets criticized, his supporters go ballistic. Ironically his supporters remind me of Bush's supporters' undying loyalty. Verrrrrrrrrrry scary!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:04 PM on 04/02/2008
- JPFL I'm a Fan of JPFL 7 fans permalink

Shouldn't the mandate be on the government to solve the problem properly, instead of mandating that the taxpayer pay tribute to the insurance industry?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:09 PM on 04/02/2008

This is the ruse that is Clinton's health plan. Because people don't see, they have to feel before they learn... it's not universal health care, it's supposedly universal coverage and no check on the insurance companies. This is why this plan will die again in Congress. It is not fair to the American taxpayer when they really cannot afford it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:43 PM on 04/02/2008

Ditto! Maybe we can get Obama to reconsider his plan and align it more with Hillary's. EVERYBODY needs coverage.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:13 PM on 04/02/2008
- linquistic I'm a Fan of linquistic 3 fans permalink

What if even with the premiums someone still can't afford it. Or maybe someone just chooses not to buy insurance because there are more important bills. What's the penalty then?. We have over 300 million people in the U S, good luck with covering every single American.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:22 PM on 04/02/2008

So what if one candidate has a better plan? If it's not a realistic plan, it's just words. Would you vote for the candidate who promised world peace, or the one who promised to strengthen the conditions and circumstances that promote peace?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:25 PM on 04/02/2008

Maybe we can get them BOTH to endorse a single payer system that doesn't guarantee billions for insurance companies before anybody gets treated!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/02/2008

Oh I agree Clinton's plan is the most universal of health care. But some of the poor would go broke trying to pay for it as well. Neither candidate's plan is what I want. I'd like to see us get out of allowing profit in this area altogether. Create a single payer (Universal) system like most of the rest of the civilized world uses and treat this just like police and fire service. Universally available and the state and your tax dollars pay the providers directly not a series of insurance cut-outs who sole profit is provided by providing you less and less health care.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/02/2008

Even if you could convince me that mandates were better, on the federal level, where we supposedly have the budget to pay for all the subsidies needed (even with the debt, and the war, and the bailing out Bear Stearns...) I would STILL be for Obama. Why? Because Hillary effs everything up. She effed up healthcare the first time. She's effing up in campaign tactics. She's effing up her campaign's finances. I could totally see some bastardized version of her healthcare plan coming out of the congress where nothing but the mandates are intact--and the insurance companies who contributed so heavily to her when she was "inevitable" would cheer. I have paid all the money I can into this goddamn system, tens of thousands in the past few years from buying on the individual market and having a pre-existing condition, and NOBODY is going to MAKE me buy some crap insurance when I have finally run out of money to buy what passes for "good" in this pathetic system. Obama wins on this issue because at least he won't make it worse.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:01 PM on 04/02/2008
- Tumult I'm a Fan of Tumult 2 fans permalink

I believe in single-payer true universal health care, neither candidate is offering that. And while I like and respect both Edwards, I do not agree with their opinion here. If you are not going to do a single-payer plan you are not having universal health care coverage, the Clinton plan mandates coverage, but it does not mandate any other costs. It leaves the burden on the American taxpayer, but requires all Americans to buy coverage. Both plans expand on federal coverages and states. But hers appears to leave people more vulnerable to costs, and I am afraid people will end up with minimum coverage plans just to cheaply meet her mandate. Obamas plan while leaving out the mandate for everyone but children, deals directly with costs, and has alot stronger wording on regulation, and even discusses malpratice insurance to reduce costs on the doctors side. While Hillary tries to act like Obama doesn't have the details she has, his healthcare plan looks more solid and detail oriented than hers. And I really have to question why she is talking about mandatory insurance, and offering federal insurance programs, but is failing to go all the way to a single-payer system. Obamas plan seem more reasonable on costs and will make it so everyone can and should easily have health insurance. His plan also goes into more detail on drug benefits, research and other health care issues.
I am American, either make it single payer, or make it optional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/02/2008
- mutatio I'm a Fan of mutatio 3 fans permalink

Good God, someone else said it besides Clinton, and, it was televised, therefor it did really happen! ;-) Makes me think of how ridiculous it has been with Obama being challenged just this week on his claims that he doesn't take big money from oil etc. Hopefully they extend that scrutiny to his claims about lobbyists.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:55 PM on 04/02/2008
- rixhex56 I'm a Fan of rixhex56 15 fans permalink

Nothing will reduce healthcare costs until the PROFIT motive is removed from the equation. It is not that difficult to see this point. Agencies that provide for societal needs are better served, and serve better, when profit is not their objective. Period. Police Forces, Fire Departments, Emergency Medical Techs, the Military -- and, yes, healthcare.

Because providing services of this nature necessarily cuts into PROFITS, the quality of these services suffers if profit must be made. Insurance companies will undoubtedly keep costs up as long as they are involved in the process -- there is no other outcome. Remove them completely, and you cut costs considerably.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:54 PM on 04/02/2008
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If Elizabeth Edwards likes Hillary's health care plan, why doesn't she outright endorse Hillary? Is there something she knows that we don't know? Could it be that Hillary is too sneaky, too deceptive and too much calculating for her taste? You can't have a cake and eat it too. Either you endorse Obama or endorse Hillary-these statements don't help anyone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:52 PM on 04/02/2008
- rixhex56 I'm a Fan of rixhex56 15 fans permalink

This is a sadly myopic view. It is possible to discuss, and support, specific issues/policies without necessarily endorsing a specific candidate. Each candidate may propose certain ideas that appeal, without being completely appealing him/her - self.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:59 PM on 04/02/2008
- navalvet I'm a Fan of navalvet 5 fans permalink

Not everyone will cast a vote based solely on health care. There are a few other issues on the minds of some of the electorate: the war in Iraq, the economy and global warming. Ms. Dole is probably signaling her personal choice but before the Democratic convention, all sorts of policies are up for debate. Whoever wins has to be cognizant of the opinions of party leaders and of the grass roots.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:12 PM on 04/02/2008
- Julileegal I'm a Fan of Julileegal 2 fans permalink

Could it be that Hillary is too sneaky, too deceptive and too much calculating for her taste? You can't have a cake and eat it too.

Do you really think there is an honest politician out there?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 04:48 PM on 04/02/2008
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