Hillary Clinton: Barack Obama Can't Win

UPDATE: Mark Halperin is reporting comments from an anonymous Clinton official:

"Bill Richardson is clearly embarrassed that he broke his promise to them. He should come out and tell the truth and admit that he told both Clintons that Obama wasn't ready and can't win."

ABC News reports:

Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-N.Y., and former President Bill Clinton are making very direct arguments to Democratic superdelegates, starkly insisting Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., cannot win a general election against presumptive Republican nominee, Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz.

Sources with direct knowledge of the conversation between Sen. Clinton and Governer Bill Richardson, D-N.M., prior to the Governor's endorsement of Obama say she told him flatly, "He cannot win, Bill. He cannot win."

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Watch the segment from ABC News.

Comments

[rkmbsd]

I so sick of just seeing Obama on every channel!!! Everyone talks about his oratory but Wake UP!!! he has speech writers who do this for him!! When he is forced to talk on his own he refers to us Typical White People....­.This guy lied about where his parent's met... about his contacts & about his experience­.... we have not seen any pics of his white grandmother or mother... he has no legislative record to speak of.. & yet everyone is calling for the Experienced Candidate Hillary, to concede...­. As a Florida Democrat who's vote seldom counts... If Obama is nominated I will either abstain or vote for McCain

[Lap48]

Wrong...th­ere are pictures of his mother. If you read the Times you would have seen the recent bio and the pic.

As for your "not voting for him" as I've said there are--or were-- plenty of GoP trolls in here masquerading as blogging dem voters. Ditto for Clinton ops desperately pretending to be Hillary just-folks­-supporter­s

[roneckley16823]

What world are you in rkmbsd. We have seen pictures of his mother, father and his grandparents. Please do not blame Obama for the mistakes your State has made on when they can vote and their voting practices. It is your State leaders that created the problem. Of course, this is not the first time your State has had voting problems - remember the last election. As for Hillary, she is still dodging those bullets from sniper fire at three o'clock in the morning. LOL.

[Ozarks]

Yea, and crowing about how Michigan votes should be counted since she was the only democrat to put her name on this illegal ballot. Illegal ballot you may ask? See Federal Judge finding that the Michigan Primary was "Unconstitutional". Unconstitutional = illegal

[toby2007]

I’m so sick of the negative media coverage of Hilary Clinton. It’s getting to a tabloid level. Now knowing that Obama's advisor's are so anti American, he attends a all black church, knowing that he is connected to a conman in Chicago that is on trial, knowing that he lies in the public domain about contributions from certain questionable parties. If he wins I will jump ship and vote for McCain. And I have been a proud liberal for so long but I can’t say I will rest easy with another non-experienced politician at the top. He need’s time to marinade. He needs to vote on some issues and bring some bills to the table. Not just read speeches that are written for him and talk about a dream.

And this is coming from a professional Hispanic woman in her mid thirties. And I have to say a lot of my friends are starting to think the same way.

[andj]

Hillary is no more experienced. First lady experience does not count. Im afraid that misspeaking about experience doesn't count either.

i cant vote for a liar.

[Georgiadude]

Maybe she is bringing some of the negative publicity on herself. I still cannot understand why she would tell the country she was being shot at while in Bosnia. She is an intelligent lady but I am very concerned about her truthfulness in general,

[kristin]

toby, please read what Hillary's pastor said:

"The pastor at the church that Clinton did once attend has expressed public support for Wright. He's proclaimed it a "grave injustice" to make a judgment on Wright based "two or three sound bites," and criticized those who "use a few of [Wright's] quotes to polarize."

Snyder, the senior minister at Foundry United Methodist Church in D.C. -- which the Clintons attended while in the White House -- released statement offering a sympathetic defense of the totality of Wright's work.

"The Reverend Wright is an outstanding church leader whom I have heard speak a number of times," Snyder wrote. "He has served for decades as a profound voice for justice and inclusion in our society. To evaluate his dynamic ministry on the basis of two or three sound bites does a grave injustice to Dr. Wright, the members of his congregation, and the African-American church which has been the spiritual refuge of a people that has suffered from discrimination, disadvantage, and violence. Dr. Wright, a member of an integrated denomination, has been an agent of racial reconciliation while proclaiming perceptions and truths uncomfortable for some white people to hear. Those of us who are white Americans would do well to listen carefully to Dr. Wright rather than to use a few of his quotes to polarize."

Pastor Of Clinton's Former Church: Don't Use Wright To Polarize
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/25/pastor-of-clintons-forme_n_93418.html

[IslandGyal]

toby2007,
People like you wouldn't vote for Barack regardless what he does, so we are expecting you all to defect, goodbye, don't let the door hit where where the good lord gave ya!

[Vern58]

A) Some of us are tired of seeing Hillary on every channel. All in your perspective
B) Barack writes his own speeches- uses an editor seldomly. Read his books and the sentance structure is the same
C) He was only referring to his Grandmother- a Kansas woman who grew up in the 1920s- for her time and culture she was "typical"
D) His information on the circumstances of his parents meeting came directly from his Mother, who probably embroidered it a bit.
E) As far as his experience, he has rarely strayed from factual reality, while Mrs Clinton is dodging bullets in Bosnia
http://en.metapedia.org/wiki/i/Stanley_Ann_Dunham
Pics of Mother
G)As far as legislative experience see this- you may find it instructive: He has way more than BillClinton did when he became president
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/2/20/201332/807/36/458633
H)Hillariy's specific experience that qualifies her for the job is debatable: First Lady experience does not count- that is nearly universaly agreed.
I) If you are angry at your vote not being counted, blame it on your own legislature who pushed forward the primary time and broke party rules
J) Comments like the last one are signs of a republican troll or a Clintonista operative. Allthough i abhor HRC i will hold my nose and vote for her if she gets the nomination- that is what you call being a true Democrat

[cseper]

Keith Olbermann's hypocrisy knows no bounds. He smears Hillary Clinton, with a lifelong record of supporting Civil Rights and the African American community, by comparing her to David Duke and the KKK, while IGNORING the racist rantings of Barack Obama's pastor of 20 years.
Reverand Wright is man he listened to for guidance for 20 years. The man that married him and Michelle. The man that baptized both of his girls. What kind of "judgement" does that show on Obama's part?

[cseper]

Are we ready to give the smooth-talking stranger anything he wants even if
it means throwing some old friends under the bus. That makes no sense to me.
People see themselves in Obama, they love him, they need him, they can't
live without him but they can't explain why - they just want somebody to love.
Is there any room for logic here?
We're about to give someone unlimited power - should it be an unknown?


Besides his claim that he's always been against the war, who is Obama?
Why did Obama get your vote and not Dennis Kucinich or John Edwards,
two people about whom we know so much more than the new guy?

[rkmbsd]

Oh yes... read his books, titled after a speech his minister gave... the same minister that he never heard give any racially oriented sermons... for 20 years.... & he got his info on his parent's meeting from his mother... I guess he could not figure out the time line was incorrect.­... it was 4 years later..... gee he sounds real with it..... & the florida legislature is all republican­... govenor & majority..­.. so us democrats really had a say... & no he was not just referring to his grandmother when he said she was a typical white person... he was talking on his own, without his writers...­. if Hillary had said someone was a typical black person the press would have slammed her... & his wife is finally proud to be an american..­...... I am a proud liberal democrat..­. a Gay American who wants what is best for this country...­.. after all these awful Bush/Cheney years I do not want the media's pick again... we had that with Bush

[StephenS]

What story about his parents meeting are you talking about? If you're talking about Obama saying at Selma last year that the Selma march 4 years after it he was born helped get his parents together, then I think you made up your answer "D)".

"D) His information on the circumstances of his parents meeting came directly from his Mother, who probably embroidered it a bit."

When called on this last year, his camp said that when he said he had a claim to Selma for getting his parents together Obama really meant he had a general claim to the Civil Rights movement. No one said that the Selma link "came directly from his Mother".

[gba]

Obama does not write all his speeches and neither does Patrick Deval

[DoninJoisey]

Get used to it. People are fed up with the "politics as usual" that got us so screwed up. The Clintons are the last gasp of the old back-room politics. I'm tired of the best government money can buy - Hillary defends taking money from lobbyists "they are people, too" - that may be okay with you, but to me it's indicative of what is wrong with this country.

Couple that with her never-ending lies.

I laugh that you repeat the hologram that Hillary is experienced. What did she do? Voted for Iraq and still defends her vote. Supported NAFTA (now says she never did) Claims she was instrumental in peace in N Ireland and bring about SCHIPS, only those are lies.

Yes, she has experience at lying.

[rosal]

The pathetic couple is throwing a tantrum. Putting words in Richardson's mouth. Liars and control freaks. The respect of more than half of the Democrats.­...gone. I wish they would be gone also.

[utd]

If Richardson was so in the bag for Hillary, why was slick Willy still courting him as late as the superbowl? This is the craziest fallout over someone doing the right thing over the easy thing. I feel sorry for Gov. Richardson and the crap he is enduring over this, luckily I know he is a big enough boy to take it in stride.

[LAWSTUDENT33]

MY ELECTORAL MAP

MCCAIN: TEXAS(34), NE (5), ND (3), MT (3), NM (5), FL(27), OH(21), SD(3), AZ (10), LOU(9), ARK (6), GA (15), NC (15), SC (8), KY (8), IN (11), OK(7), WY (3), ID(4), KS (6), WV(5), MO (11), TE(11), ALASKA(6), ALABAMA (9), UT (5), IOWA 7, MS 6 =263

OBAMA : CA 55, NY 31, PA 21, NJ 15, NH 4, MD 10, MA 12, MINN 10, MICH 17, OR 7, WASH 11, VT 3, WIS 10, ME 4, ILL 21, CT 7, DE 3, DC 3, VA 13, HAWAII 4, CO 9, RI 4=274

MIND YOU I GAVE MCCAIN OHIO, FLORIDA, MISSOURI ALL SWING STATES

IN EXCHANGE I GAVE OBAMA NH, CO, PA TO BE EQUITABLE

SWING STATES MCCAIN (59), OBAMA (34)

IF OBAMA CAN PULL OFF PENNSYLVANIA, COLORADO, VIRGINIA HE DOESN'T NEED OHIO OR FLORIDA , AND HE'S YOUR NEXT PRESIDENT

IF HE CAN'T GET OHIO OR PENNSYLVANIA HE'S IN TROUBLE

IF HE SNATCHES MISSOURI(VERY CONTINGENT) AND IOWA (KERRY LOST BY 0.6 % IN 04') HE DOESN'T NEED OHIO OR PENNSYLVANIA WHICH WOULD BE AMAZING

MCCAIN (263) LOSES MISSOURI(11) AND IOWA (7) 263-18=245 + PENNSYLVANIA 21 = 266
OBAMA (274) LOSES PENNSYLVANIA (21) 274-21= 253 + MISSOURI (11) =264 + IOWA (7) = 271

MCCAIN CAN WIN BY SURPRISING US IN NEW HAMPSHIRE.­..FAR STRETCH..B­UT POSSIBLE

[Georgiadude]

Let's make this easy, the country is going to hell in a hand basket thanks to the current leadership, are Americans going to vote for four more years of the same in November, I think not. Hillary knows this, that is why she fighting so tenaciously.

[starboymikey]

are Americans going to vote for four more years of the same in November, I think not. Hillary knows this, that is why she fighting so tenaciously.
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Then why do so many people feel that Hillary is fighting tenaciously not for the country, but for Hillary?

[kristin]

Remember, Governor Blackwell told Bush that he would deliver Ohio for him in the 2004 election. Factor in that when you say Obama can't win Ohio. I say he will win Ohio if the Ohio Democrats have a handle on producing an honest presidential election in 2008 rather than having the voters face touchscreen voting machines that can be programed to record a vote for one candidate and give a receipt showing a vote for the other candidate. In addition, in Ohio in 2004, many, many Blacks were told they were not registered, or were at the wrong precinct, or faced hours of wait because too few machines and workers had been assigned to heavily Black precincts. I know that the Ohio Democrats have been working hard to see that that situation doesn't happen again. My best wishes and hopes go to them. That type of effort around the country is needed so we can regain out democracy.

[Ozarks]

Dear Lawstudent, Mark Twain would say to you "Liars figure and figures lie"

[Ozarks]

Mark Halperin is reporting comments from an anonymous Clinton official:Gee sounds like Mark Halperin did not attempt to confirm this allegation from Bill Richardson. What a reporter, reporting heresay from an obvious bias source. Probably the same source that called Bill Richardson a "Judas". Bill Richardson is an honorable person. I can't say the same about Hillary , the sniper fire and Northern Ireland liar. Nor about Bill Clinton, a red faced shadow of his former self. Mark Halperin is not a journalist, using one anonymous source from the Clinton campaign to allege that Bill Richardson stated that "Obama can't win". What a joke, it shows how pissed off the Clintons are that somebody came forward and spoke the truth. Hillary couldn't win a dog catcher position in Little Rock, much less hold on to her Senate seat from NY. I bet those NY people are just waiting to dump Hillary the vindictive little Monster that she is. I hope Bill Richardson gets irritated enough to come forward and reveal Hillary's real reason why she probably shouted over the phone to Bill why , in her view, Obama can't win- She believes that she, like McCain ,are anointed Royalty. She is a throwback to the Middle ages, maybe if she had been born in England at that time she could have been crowned Queen - Sorry Hillary, NOT in the USA.

[FJRinLA]

Very discredited reporter..­.....Hilla­ry hack as much as Mika on NBC is for Obama but at least she discloses that her brother works for Obama campaign. Wonder what this guy Halperin was promised, front row in Clinton White House Briefing Room?

[BetterAmerica]

This site is so boring now that all the pro-Hillary people have left.

This should be called Obama Post.

[IslandGyal]

BetterAmerica,
It's the rare person who goes down with a sinking ship, LMAO!

[Texas4Obama]

Perhaps they haven't left - maybe we've converted them and now they are Obama supporters :)

[melann830]

Like hell you did. They are just too classy to bother with any of you. I just had some spare time and felt like bursting your bubble and joy. OBAMA will lose. He can not win against McCain. Learn to prepare for your candidate's defeat and demise. He is no match for Her.

[ultrabop]

the Clintons are toxic. everybody knows it now except you.

[Lap48]

There weren't that many hillary people in here, to begin with: most were GOP trolls and Clinton apparatchiks. The latter were desperately trying to spin; the former were trying to sow as much discord in order to tamp down Dem enthusiasm in the Fall. There are still some diehard pros and saboteurs but you can only fool so many people so many times over the NET.

[melann830]

I'm back. Richardson is a Judas. He interviewed Monica for the job. Backstabbed the Clintons. Knows Barry Obama can not win against McCain. Carville is Saint Peter defending his fearless leader: Hillary Clinton. Yes, so good to be back!!! Screw all of you Hillary Haters! She is my fearless leader too. Viva Hillary!! Hillary For President 2008!!

[EGNY]

Calling Richardson a Judas makes you no different than the Bushies. What you’re looking for isn’t loyalty, it’s CRONYISM. Your definition of “loyalty” means suspending one’s own judgment -- one’s own integrity -- in favor of blind allegiance. This mentality suffers no contradiction, can tolerate no dissention, will listen to no reason. Was Richardson a Judas for having the audacity to run in the first place?

Billary’s campaign runs foul of everything Richardson stood for in his own presidential campaign. He pushed constantly for civility and unity. She has been consistently caustic and has blindly fomented division among her own party, for her own short-sighted political gain. How, then, could Richardson endorse Clinton? Answer: he could only do so if he valued being a crony of the Clintons above his own principles. Thankfully, he does not.

[jrh44]

You Go! I'm with you all the way. Hillary for Prsident!

[Ozarks]

Yea and Carville after making that Judas statement is moving to New Orleans. Guess melann80 you know what that means. No more screaming and gnashing of the teeth. Carville is going into the good nite, without fanfare. So much for defending his fearless leader. He is one of the many rats abandoning ship because he sees the writing on the wall with Richardson's endorsement of Obama. So long on Carville's Sainthood. We won't be hearing from him anymore.

[naschkatze]

Holy Cow, now RICHARDSON is the one who said Obama can't win. Where is the logic in that? Why would Richardson commit to Obama if that were the case? And as for Richardson promising the Clintons 5 times that he would not endorse Obama, if that were true, why did Richardson have to postpone his endorsement of Clinton that many times? Why couldn't he have just endorsed her up front?

[melann830]

He knew he would not garner whichever cabinet position he wanted. Richardson wants out of New Mexico and back in Washington. Maybe this time he'll interview some sex starved fat chick to give BO some BJ's. Then let's see everyone say: Impeach BO. BOcommitted perjury. Let's hear BO say," I never had sex with that fat chick." Why not. He already lied about not hearing Wright's sermons. We all know that history will one day prove that BO thought with his southern head and not the northern variety.

[utd]

If you are trying to prove that that the few people left in the pro-Hillary camp are bat shit insane, don't worry we already know. Seriously though, do you even care about your candidate? Why would you say stuff like that?

[condew]

I thought the standard was to deny 3 times before the Cock Crows. 5 is straining credibility.

[DoninJoisey]

Right. Anyone who'll believe a Clinton over Richardson - call me, I have a bridge for sale.

[KaraMiaa]

HILLARY .........Y­OU CANT WIN!!!

[melann830]

Forget can or can't. That's your problem. She will and she will win in Nov. too. Will, her will, my will and her supporters will make her win. Will is the way, not can. Can gives you nothing but zero.

[ZimboChick]

lol.....u made me stop worrying about my Zimbabwe issues for a minute.

I will help u sell that bridge....­extra extra read all about it...

[ShootFirstInc]

Hillary's latest ad against Obama pulls NO punches! Ouch!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0UrO2ReEYo

[Bummer]

No matter what Hilary say's, no matter how much mud she throw's at Barack i still know that he will win,but she will make it harder for him against republicans if her and Bill keep campaigning McCain. Like she said if she can't win then she will ruin it for the democrates.

[melann830]

BOO HOO!

[SifSkade]

Obviously he said that about Obama at some point in the past , and he probably believed it when he said it. He changed his mind -- we all know this. Is the Clinton campaign playing a round of "Look what Bill said about you!" or are they actually trying to suggest that Richardson still feels this way? Crazy, every one of them.

[Mchris1947]

The best part is, it doesn't matter if Obama STILL gets his support! :-)

[2351]

Do we really want 8 more years of this stuff? I don't think so. We need a new deal. We need a change from all of the pranks. It's the old gossip game. Somebody told me, that somebody told them, that so and so and so and so. I do not believe that Richardson told Hillary or Bill this stuff. I think that they are trying to embarrass him and bully him. If I were him, I'd just let them keep talking and letting people know how small they really are.

[DoninJoisey]

EXACTLY. Obama is the only hope we have to change the conversation in this country. To talk like adults.

[starboymikey]

EXACTLY. Obama is the only hope we have to change the conversation in this country. To talk like adults.
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Right, but that's not the real question. The real question is "do we even *want* to talk like adults?"

[JOHND777]

More Bosnian fantasy from the well balanced parallel universe of Clintonville!!!

[foreffectivegovernment]

Bill Clinton stated that Bill Richardson agreed NOT to endore Barack Obama but to stay neutral.

Bill Richardson endorsed Barack Obama and said he did not make that promise. Obama supporters called Bill Clinton a liar about it and continued to bash Bill and Hillary Clinton.

It has now been revealed that Bill Richardson did make the promise to not endorse either candidate. He had the right to change his mind but WHO IS THE LIAR in this case?

[2351]

Richardson had the right to change his mind. He said that he started watching some of the things being done, which to him, must have seemed quite ugly, why else would he have changed his mind. Yes, he could have waited, but he was sending a message and I don't blame him for not keeping himself beholding to the Clintons. That is a lot of pressure to put on a person.

[broo2you]

Hillary is a BIG FAT LIAR (how could she NOT remember the circumstances in Bosnia?), THAT'S WHO. She has lied about everything, from Bosnia, to her role in the peace process in Ireland, to her role in creating the SCHIP kid's health program, etc., etc. If she hadn't told all these lies, then she wouldn't have lost the support of superdelegates.
Obama is an honest man. Bill and Hillary have practically called him the 'N word' in their efforts to win. They have tried to steal pledged delegates. I told my husband early in the campaign that the Clintons campaign like the Bushies. Now he believes me.
I have lost all respect for Bill. He and Hillary can lie in the bed they have made!

[uglybetty]

Hate to burst your bubble ,broo2you,but a Liar is a Liar !!!

Your Boy is also LYING everyday ,so find something True to spout about !

BTW, you are absolutely Lying about the Clintons (practially calling him the "n" word !

Maybe you think that justifys your post ????

[Bummer]

Bill Richarson has never been accused of lying to the congress or to the senate or to the American people. But Bill Clinton was impeached by the house and it was overturned by the senate for lying and commiting perjury. And you have to ask who is lying, "come on get real".

[Ozarks]

foreffecti­vegovernme­nt you say: "Bill Clinton stated that Bill Richardson agreed NOT to endore Barack Obama but to stay neutral". And, you claim "it has now been revealed that Bill Richardson did make the promise" . It appears Foreffecti­vegovernme­nt your source of this revealation is none other than Bill Clinton . Yes, That Bill Clinton , the guy who tried to make a new definition of the word "is" when somebody brought forward Monica's "stained" dress. Or maybe Hillary, who's sniper fire story and Northern Ireland story shows she did learn something from her 8 years in the White House. How to lie like Bill. So Foreffecti­vegovernme­nt "Who is the Liar in this case" given the proven track record of Bill and Hillary? Duh I will give you two guesses.

[rgersmrk]

Lol, an "anonymous Clinton official" said this. I'll take that with a grain of sniper fire.

[obamagal]

.... convenient, huh...

Here's another "mis-speak" Hillary made which oddly enough, has not been mentioned much, especially as Hillary brought the 'event' to everyone's attention to emphasize her foreign policy experience:

"Hillary Recalls Trip to Africa witih Ambassador Wilson That Didn't Happen

She visited more than 80 counties as First Lady, so it's only natural that she'd confuse some facts here and there. Some of those facts have come under the microscope as of late -- as with her sniper-threatened landing in Bosnia, which comedian Sinbad has questioned.

Today Sen. Hillary Clinton, D-NY, at an event with former Ambassador Joe Wilson, said, "I'm delighted to be here with Ambassador Wilson. He and I did travel together to Africa and, sort of, paved the way for the president's trip the following year, which was historic."

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/18/hillary-recalls-trip-to-a_n_92211.html

[couch2000]

You are telling about Clintons bad statements but do they out wieigh Anti White Obamas? i wont punishish my girls with a baby? thats is damming. that is scary, thats just one mis statement, dont this guy think no more of innocent babies than that, well did it ever Occur to you Anti White Obama that a baby is a blessing not a curse?, i cant believe you are even running for president. Welcome to to the General Election.

[yoyos]

TROUBLE INDEED

Clinton's desperation is now palpable. Neither Hillary nor Bill could possibly believe that after a public bashing like that, Bill Richardson would either change his mind or retain the level of friendship with them he had previously. Their outburst wasn't going to change that, and would predictably arouse a lot of negative reaction as well.

So why did they do it? Did they just lose their cool? If so, then the Hillary campaign is in even worse shape than was realized. Or was this an example of power politics, a hope that some superdelegates would be afraid of the same treatment and would hold back from endorsing Barack.

I think antics like this show they know it is over.

[SophieL]

Why did they do it? I guess they felt betrayed by a friend in a big way. All that experience that Richardson rattled off while he was still running--he got because of Bill. Just Richardson's way of saying "Thanks."

The irony is that Obama's campaign is still politics as usual. All these superdelegates that are flipping will come back to get theirpound of flesh. They're all salivating over this self-proclaimed blank slate.

[NorVaGal]

Sophie: I wonder if the Clintons feel betrayed similarly to the millions of supporters Bill betrayed by his conduct in the Oval Office with Monica Lewinsky. Is the betrayal akin to how all of America felt when he shook his finger at us and said he did not have sex with that woman? Is the pain similar to what Hillary felt with each and every documented affair?

The only difference, IMO, is that most Americans were willing to forgive Bill for his betrayal and move on. Wouldn't it be great if the Clinton's and their supporters had as much charity in their hearts for other humans who are also not perfect?