Hillary Clinton With Jay Leno On Tonight Show: Enters To "Rocky" Theme, Jokes About Sniper Fire

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First Posted: 04- 3-08 09:54 PM   |   Updated: 04-11-08 05:12 AM

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Leno And Clinton

Hillary Clinton hit the humor trail Thursday night by dropping in on the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno. Though she didn't attempt to go joke-for-joke with Leno by dishing out one-liners like McCain and Letterman, Clinton did attempt to score with her own brand of funny. Entering to none other than the theme from "Rocky," Clinton quickly jumped into a gag about her recent historical embellishments: "I was so worried I wasn't going to make it. I was pinned down by sniper fire," she quipped before briefly discussing her 'lapse' with regards to her Bosnia memories. Leno, for his part, dropped in a joke about answering the phone at 3 a.m. before the conversation moved on to the election, Bill's temper, and Florida delegates.


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More from AP:

Clinton said she was proud of her daughter, Chelsea, 28, who has been campaigning for her. But she said her "stomach is in knots" most days thinking about what she might encounter each day. Chelsea Clinton has fielded some tough questions in recent appearances, particularly about her father's relationship with White House intern Monica Lewinsky. Her response has been that it's none of the questioner's business.


Asked about her daughter telling a voter that her mother might make a better president than her father, Bill Clinton, Hillary Clinton grinned and said: "She is such a smart young woman."

Leno also asked about moments during the campaign in which the former president has blown up at reporters and others.

"When you're supporting someone you love, you really do take it very much to heart," she said. "I said 'OK, honey, that's all right, we don't have to go get excited about it.' He's doing a great job for me but he does get a little carried away sometimes."

Hillary Clinton hit the humor trail Thursday night by dropping in on the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno. Though she didn't attempt to go joke-for-joke with Leno by dishing out one-liners like McCain and...
Hillary Clinton hit the humor trail Thursday night by dropping in on the "Tonight Show" with Jay Leno. Though she didn't attempt to go joke-for-joke with Leno by dishing out one-liners like McCain and...
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- Dave01 I'm a Fan of Dave01 9 fans permalink

I just watched the entire thing (DAMN I LOVE TIVO)..........She just got done talking about "revoting" in Michigan and Florida and that she is in favor of a revote but that Obama's campaign has come out with a straight NO. She is a liar!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If there was a FAIR way to have a revote he would support it. The problem is whether he wants a revote, the problem lies in legalities of a revote. The rules that the Clinton campaign has proposed have been illegal. There were Democrats who voted for a Republican candidate because they knew their votes wouldn't be counted in the primary for the Democratic candidate.

She wanted a mail-in revote in Florida which is against Florida state law when selecting a nominee.

The facts are that there is absolutely no way to have a legal revote in either state without the Republicans also revoting.

Both agreed to the rules before the campaign started and she keeps wanting to change those rules to suit her needs. And until her needs are met she will used the scorched earth, kitchen sink, Tonya Harding strategies in order to make sure that NO Democrat will win this year just so that she can say "I told you so" and then she will run again in 2012.

NEWSFLASH: YOU WON'T WIN IN 2012 EITHER!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:18 PM on 04/04/2008
- rojo7449 I'm a Fan of rojo7449 9 fans permalink

The mail-in voting idea was out there because so many Floridians are seasonal residents and they wanted to try and reach everyone who is a registered voter in that state. At least she has been trying to find a solution to the problems that will rear their ugly heads in November if nothing is done to right the wrong done in those two states.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:45 PM on 04/04/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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She has 'A solution' the one she AGREED TO before the primary started.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 04/04/2008

AMEN! She will NOT win in 2012. I will not forget how she tried to destroy the Democratic party for her own ambitions. No to Hillary in 2012!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:05 PM on 04/04/2008

danbury, earlier you posted i sound like a bushie because i pointed out that hillarys lie makes the military look bad. you really are sick. i come from a military background, my brother and 3 cousins volunteered and served in Vietnam. one sacrificed his life. i would go on with my families military history but i wouldn't want to bore you. bush and his boys are chickenhawks who i despise. you dont even get it. you called her ouright lie silly.
how dare you.
fu-k off. your just pondscum

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:14 PM on 04/04/2008
- globality I'm a Fan of globality 20 fans permalink

hahaha I am a liar

hahaha Randi Rhodes is right

hahaha

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:13 PM on 04/04/2008
- tomcj I'm a Fan of tomcj 5 fans permalink

Hillary is a liar. Big Deal. Hillary is untrustworthy. Big Deal. Hillary and Bill are multimillionaires. Big Deal. Hillary's White House like Bill's will be for sale, with Sleepovers and Pardons. Big Deal

Hillary is hilarious. And di you know she is a woman?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 04/04/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

I personally find it hilarious that this is the best example of how Hillary lies that you guys can cook up.

Good grief......a memory from 11 years ago?

That's it?

That's the big deal?

Hilarious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:33 PM on 04/04/2008

You don't "mis-remember" about being shot at, ducking from incoming fire and running to your car.

You lie about it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:48 PM on 04/04/2008

If it is so insignificant, then why is it part of her campaign pitch for her 'experience'?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:57 PM on 04/04/2008

Yes, a lie constructed to boost the hologram of her "experience" claim.

Just as "always opposed NAFTA" to Ohio voters.

Just as brought peace to N Ireland.

Just as the Iraq war vote wasn't a vote to invade Iraq.

Just as fought to bring about SCHIPS

just as will fight to take governement back from special interests, while defending taking lobbyists money - I bet she's pissed that donations canm't be hidden, or she'd lie about taking lobbyists money, too.

Yeah, lying IS a big deal. I've had enough of it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:10 PM on 04/04/2008

AnninCA - After 7 years of a President lying to us -- some of us don't care to have another lying President. But for me it's not just she lied about this situation it's that she was dumb enough to lie about it. She had to know after being caught embellishing her role in the Ireland Peace process people were checking out her "foreign policy claims". I'm not buying the laps in memory garbage she told this story repeatedly. I'm not buying her garbage either that she got this confused, people with the worst memory don't forget being shot at.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:16 PM on 04/04/2008

Anyone else see a huge similarity in her joking here and Bush joking about not finding WMDs. "Where are those wmds? Here? no. Here? nope. Gotta be somewhere, hehe" Disgusting.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:03 PM on 04/04/2008
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Anyone else see a huge similarity in her joking here and Bush joking about not finding WMDs. "Where are those wmds? Here? no. Here? nope. Gotta be somewhere, hehe" Disgusting


Or the huge similarity between her lie and the lies told about the Jessica Lynch ambush?

You are absolutely right disgusting. The more I see and hear her, the more she turns my stomach.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:12 PM on 04/04/2008

And the Tillman death?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:27 PM on 04/04/2008
- Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

I'm no fan of George Bush; I think he should have been impeached. I did not especially like his WMD joke but if that's the worse thing he had ever done I'd be ecstatic at this point. Similarly I would like to decide between Clinton and Obama on something more substantial than whether a joke is appropriate. I would like to understand how my life and how the state of our country would differ under an Obama or a Clinton presidency. So far I have concluded either would be great; McCain would not (even though I respect him as a person).

Even if one agreed that her joking was inappropriate, how many people would like to have their worthiness judged by the worse or most tasteless joke they had ever told?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:45 PM on 04/04/2008

Agree completely, but no one said to judge her solely on the "joke". It just adds more evidence to the quote I'll try to paraphrase: It's not that they lie, all politicians lie. It's how easily they lie. It's clear that not only did she repeat this sniper fire lie over and over (I call BS on any excuse she gives other than admitting she lied, like sleep deprivation), but this shows that she not only thinks it's ok to lie, but thinks it's funny to.

Back to your comment: Absolutely judge them on the important things: Policies, Honesty (trust that they will work on they promise while campaigning), Judgment (to make the right decision during tough situations), their past accomplishments/actions (good and bad, honest and corrupt)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 05:52 PM on 04/04/2008

I'm sorry, but you Hillary supporters are a bunch of idiots for trying to down play Hillary huge and stupid lie! How overly sympathetic do you have to be to say that her bold faced lie was a misstatement? It was no exaggeration! An exaggeration is something that has some truth to it.

It boggles my mind that you Hillary supporters are trying to play this lightly and still support her after all this. If she is dumb enough to lie about something so easily provable, how the hell are you expected to believe something so important or vital and even earth shattering if she were to be in office??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/04/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Well, Obama is welcome to go onto Letterman and bring his smokes with him. *hooting*

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 04/04/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 208 fans permalink
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So you equate Obama's efforts to stop smoking with Hillary's lie about sniper fire in Bosnia? The two examples do not equate. Not even close and YOU KNOW IT.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 04/04/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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They're ashamed of their candidate. Can't name one single thing she has EVER accomplished,
so have to settle for calling Obama supporters names.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:57 AM on 04/04/2008

Not ashamed of our candidate at all

Hillary's been fighting for universal health care since 1992, for instance.

What's Obama accomplished?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:09 PM on 04/04/2008
- Pharos I'm a Fan of Pharos 9 fans permalink

It has not been proven that she lied. I, and others, have posted multiple possible explanations. I do not know if she lied but I have tried to give her the benefit of the doubt as I have with Obama when he was accused of lying.

When George Bush said we would only go to war with Iraq as a last resort, it sure seemed to me he had failed to be truthful. I tried to give him the benefit of the doubt but I was unable to find any reasonable explanation other than he lied. If someone provided a reasonable explanation I would still be willing to give him the benefit of the doubt but I have to admit I really can't imagine that happening.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 PM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Retired Enlisted Association: our veterans

Obama - 12%,

Hillary - 41%

Our retired veterans are supporting Hillary in mass.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 AM on 04/04/2008
- rmreddicks I'm a Fan of rmreddicks 36 fans permalink
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What's the McCain support?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 AM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Mc Cain was not listed. It was between the DEMS.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 04/04/2008
- Pammy1151 I'm a Fan of Pammy1151 8 fans permalink
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Kennedy let me be the first to introduce you to another here on HuffPost. AnninCA I think would be a great person for you to get together with. You both seem to see things alike and both just love being trolls on here. Why don't both of you get together and post at the same time. It would save us the time of skipping past one instead of two posts that certainly have nothing to add to t he conversation.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:54 AM on 04/04/2008

I read this with furrowed brow. What is a troll? Does it mean that there are "regulars", or those who "belong," and those who are less than welcome on Ariana Huffington's website? Sorry, I'm new at this, and won't come where all are not wanted. I've been pretty disgusted with most of what I read on these things, and fear becoming one. I don't want to become an inconvenience to Pammy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

The only trolls here are you cult people. You just can't handle the truth about your cult GOD.

You just hate Hillary so much don't you.? Very sick of you. She is a very nice person. I have met her on several occasions and she has always been very warm and kind to me.

And the one thing I notice more than anything else about you trolls is you hate free speech. Are you sure you want to be a American? Freedom of speech is the backbone of
American. Why do you hate it so much??????

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:02 PM on 04/04/2008
- butchie65 I'm a Fan of butchie65 7 fans permalink

Where's the proof, Kennedy ? Like we are gooing to take your word for it ! Not !

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Lazy Obama supporter look it up yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:25 PM on 04/04/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 208 fans permalink
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Sounds like a Republican talking point from the Karl Rove school of Orwellian Politics.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:04 PM on 04/04/2008
- k6007 I'm a Fan of k6007 237 fans permalink
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Obama's active duty contributions are second only to Ron Paul's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:07 PM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Obama has won nothing. He doesn't have the del. to win anything. Scandals are swirling.

Tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock, tick tock....

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/04/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Psst: Your tin foil hat is crooked.

Here, allow me to present you with some logic: If there were "scandals swirling" don't you think Clinton would use them? What good does it do to repeat the the old ones/make stuff up if she has a real one? what is she waiting for?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 PM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

She can't use them or the Obama butt kissing media will go nuts.

But if Obama steals the nomination and he goes up against Mc Cain, his supporters will tear Obama apart. They never get the black or gay vote anyway.

It is going to be so,so, so ugly for Obama. Things are going to come out about him that will blow you cult people away. And Obama will lose in a landslide. Worse than any other DEM in history.

But don't cry. Obama was going to lose in a landslide if he stole the nomination anyway. Us Hillary supporters will make sure of that. He is not qualified to be president. And we will not hand over our great country to cult GOD Obama. He will never be president. You can take that to the bank.

And I don't have a tin foil hat. Your the cult member I am sure you have to expand your tin foil hat everyday.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:53 PM on 04/04/2008

wheres the link to your bullshit kennedy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 PM on 04/04/2008

I'm glad Senator Clinton has a sense of humor about herself. But I don't think that's the point. Like her vote on the war she's never really admitted she lied about the Bosnia trip. Her advisors are still trying to spin it as if there was the possibility of sniper fire. There are some things in life I don't think you'd imagine - getting shot at by snipers with your child is one of them. Making light of her lie is as others have said very Bush-like. For someone who talks about "vetting" she continues to make statements that set her up for future attacks. Whatever she's paying Mark Penn, et al. it's way too much. While it's true all politicians, including Obama, exaggerate experiences, that's a bit difference than telling the same lie on more than one occassion and then when called on it still not admitting the lie. Transparency has been the biggest problem with the Bush administration - and we don't need more of that in the future.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:46 AM on 04/04/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

When did it happen for you? Did the sense of humor leave when you swooned at an Obama rally? :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 04/04/2008

Did your sense of proportion leave you you when you swooned over a female candidate for president?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/04/2008

Sense of humor??? You think relating a very detailed memory that video proves is a complete lie, essentially telling another lie by saying she "misspoke" because she hadn't had enough sleep then finally making light of it, is humorous????

I think it's pathetic.

Yep, what we need is another four years of an administration that not only lies, but doesn't even have the common courtesy to be good at it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:06 PM on 04/04/2008
- kennedy I'm a Fan of kennedy 19 fans permalink

Of course it did AnninCA. It was at that moment that Obama took her brain.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:24 PM on 04/04/2008

What the hell is wrong with you people??? Whether a Clinton, Obama or even a McCain supporter, we all have a right to our own opinion without being attacked the way you just did to auntiecairo. Why can you not just admit that Clinton told a lie - I'm sure we all have at some point - and move on. It's definitely the denial on both sides that keeps all this animosity going. Get over it!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:22 PM on 04/04/2008
- CBS I'm a Fan of CBS 18 fans permalink
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There was either sniper fire or there was not sniper fire. It is not something you can "misspeak." Once again Hillary treats the U.S. electorate like fools and expects them to come back for more. And the Hillary supporters do.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:41 AM on 04/04/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 208 fans permalink
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Her explanation is patently absurd and is a slap in the face of ordinary Americans. How can one possibly forget about whether or not you were being shot at and had to run for cover to protect yourself? It would be one of those memories forever ingrained.

This was not a "silly exaggeration" as some of her supporters would like to think. It was a bold faced LIE and reveals something less than admirable about her personality and mindset.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:48 AM on 04/04/2008
- estreya I'm a Fan of estreya 7 fans permalink

Didn't Bill Clinton write that his step father had a "second family," but justified the secret with the notion that the man loved his mother, regardless of whatever else he might have had going on? Am i remembering that right, you guys?

Point being, the Clintons seem to have the ability to justify deceit, much as our current President does. And this concerns me deeply.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:55 AM on 04/04/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Ahhhhhhh, I can tell that it annoys folks that she's got a sense of humor about herself. *hehe

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 AM on 04/04/2008
- Veeve I'm a Fan of Veeve 31 fans permalink
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Doesn't matter. When you lie about yourself as often as she does it makes any comments by a suurogate pale in comparison. She has too many flaws to wentrust with the the power of the American presidency. She is completely untrustworthy. Her platform means nothing. They are nothing more than platitudes to us plebes in order to convince the suckers amongst us to vote for her.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 AM on 04/04/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

Kennedy brought my father over. (oops* Kennedy didn't donate until a year after his dad was living in the US)

I don't smoke. *oops (several reporters have smoked with him on the trail)

I didn't hear Wright say those things. Of course I heard him say those things.

My campaign staff never talked with Canada about Nafta...*oops, it was documented?

I don't think she meant to be racist......*oops, you found my memo directing the surrogates to play this up?

I don't take money from the big oil companies. *ooops, you noticed my top fundraisers are oil execs? Well, I meant....from the company. *oops, you knew that's been illegal for years?

I don't have PACS like THEY do. *ooops, you found out my PAC outspent Hillary 4 to 1 on superdelegates and poured millions into the campaign?

*hooting*

Please, get real.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 04/04/2008
- rmreddicks I'm a Fan of rmreddicks 36 fans permalink
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No Ann, her humor is all directed at the other. Her apparent self-deprecation stems from her handlers internal focus groups. She has done us all a disservice. She has made McCain seem plausible to many of the weak Democrats. I don't for a moment believe that Obama will change the world. I am inclined to believe that we will get a breather, a short respite from the last 28 years. Perhaps then we can gather our wits about us and become more useful. Clinton has, in the public eye, proved herself through her or handlers, mordant and mendacious.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/04/2008

Well said. I don't expect miracles from Obama, but he's the best out of the choices. At least with Obama, there is a CHANCE we can change things, with McCain or Hillary, it's guaranteed to be more of the same.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:30 PM on 04/04/2008
- kellygrrrl I'm a Fan of kellygrrrl 642 fans permalink
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ha ha ha! OMG! That was quite a WHOPPER, huh? LOL!

what is so funny about lying?
she tried this same tactic at one of the debates when Obama called her out on something gross she had done, and she laughed it off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:32 AM on 04/04/2008
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You know, I’m really disturbed by many of the posts here. I’m an Obama supporter, but the way in which a lot of people here attack both Obama and Clinton makes them look like Sean Hannity or Rush limpballs. The viciousness is disgusting.
I really think that there is a room somewhere where there are a bunch of Karl rove wannabes hunched over computers, infiltrating huff-po, fingers typing furiously and cackling with glee as the domocratic party self destructs.


GWW

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 AM on 04/04/2008
- Aleka I'm a Fan of Aleka 14 fans permalink

Yes: see Danbury. That is exactly what she is doing.

Her MO for the most part is to provoke the Obama people, then smugly point a finger and smear Obama with the reaction. See how 95% of her posts point out how nasty the Obama people are? She never attacks herself, but rather puts people on the defensive. When they try to justify why they are angry she deftly twists that into *more* "attacks" which she then uses to smear Obama.

Go on, look at her history. It is really quite facinating how she manipulates others.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/04/2008
- Pammy1151 I'm a Fan of Pammy1151 8 fans permalink
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Or maybe it just could be that there are far more nasty people in this world than you thought posssible. At least that is what I have learned since joining the blogging world. I sometimes want to think that people just make this stuff up to get a rise out of others. I am honestly amazed at how many people really express such mean and vicious thoughts.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:51 AM on 04/04/2008
- kindofblue I'm a Fan of kindofblue 5 fans permalink

As one who could have voted for either candidate, I became progressively more astonished at Hillary. And increasingly annoyed by her supporters and blog posters. You're right to the point. But I don't see this mouthbreathing among the many Obama supporters I meet. First, Hillary has been way out of line (Bill comparing Obama to Jesse Jackson in SC, Hillary praising McCain and ignoring Obama, etc.), and she's done it unprovoked as a ruthless, and utterly stupid, tactic to destroy Obama at any cost. Second the tone of her blog flamers reminds me of nothing other than the repub trolls. Obama supporters have mistakenly (but understandably) responded to this provocation in kind. But there is a better way, just don't play the game. Hillary's bizarre "sniper fire" episode has completely disqualified her as a serious candidate. If you can't remember such a dramatic element of your major foreign policy experience, then you're way too brain-addled to be able to answer the 3am call. And if she's lying-well the game's really over.

Hillary is in the process of flaming out. She's hoisting herself on her own petard, and the best we can do is maintain some dignity as provides the best argument that the paradigm has shifted.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:59 AM on 04/04/2008
- AnninCA I'm a Fan of AnninCA 54 fans permalink

*hooting*........one tale exaggerating something disqualifies her?

That's priceless. I must save this one.

After all, remembering the details of the past is absolutely essential, right?

Anyway, you guys are so off the page, you can't even enjoy a nice moment on the Leno show.

I loved her April fools joke about the bowl-off, too.

But I agreed with a writer on the real clear politics site that Obama missed his chance to say that he bowled a 37 because he was under sniper fire. :)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/04/2008
- naschkatze I'm a Fan of naschkatze 95 fans permalink

That was disgusting. "A mismatch of words and actions" now intead of "I mispoke". The next time she plays dirty with Obama, I hope he makes negative ad out of the Snipergate YouTube. She just wants to brush it off like one of her bad jokes and have everyone forget about it, but we can't let it happen. We can't have a president who is either terribly dishonest or terribly delusional.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:23 AM on 04/04/2008
- frappe I'm a Fan of frappe 208 fans permalink
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...It depends on what the meaning of "is" is...

Now I was a staunch defender of Bill Clinton throughout his presidency, but, in truth, you have to admit that there were times when he tried to wiggle out of having been caught in a lie. His line about the "meaning of "is" is" is a perfect example. Hillary's attempt to save face is equally embarrassing. But in Bill's case, he was defending himself against attacks concerning a private, personal affair. In Hillary's case, it was a voluntary, broad, bold statement meant for public consumption for which she is completely responsible.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:58 AM on 04/04/2008
- factcheck2 I'm a Fan of factcheck2 6 fans permalink

Karl Rove and his operatives have saturated the broadcast airwaves in another Orwellian attempt to manipulate the voters. Back in 2006 they were already talking about Hillary Clinton's "high negatives" every day on the Fox News Channel. She's "calculating", "divisive" and "polarizing" in ths same way Saddam Hussein had "weapons of mass destruction" in 2003. They borrow the tactics of the fascists in the 1930s, which include bullying, intimidating, and character assassinating public figures who gain traction in defending Clinton. Once her supporters are silenced, all that's left is the din of the crude insults such as you are now hearing. Eleanor Roosevelt suffered the same fate during her lifetime. Moreover, should Clinton lose the nomination, Rove's neoconservative ticket (as yet unannounced) will replace McCain and go on to trounce Obama in the fall. In Chicago, prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is waiting for his cue to hand down a Rezko-related indictment that will see the Illinois senator in handcuffs before the November election. Thus, the last laugh on the Tonight Show will again be Rove's. For more on the G.O.P. strategy and Obama' s ties to Rezko, see the article I've posted at thecityedition.com. Here's a direct. http://www.thecityedition.com/Pages/Archive/Winter08/2008Election.html

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