Hagel: McCain Facing Electoral Buzzsaw Over Iraq

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First Posted: 04- 3-08 04:34 PM   |   Updated: 04-11-08 05:12 AM

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The Republican Party and its presumptive nominee Sen. John McCain are heading into a 2008 electoral buzzsaw with their continued support of the Iraq war, Sen. Chuck Hagel said in an interview with The Huffington Post on Thursday.

The country is still very sour on the war, the Nebraska Republican pressed, and support for candidates who want to stay the course is simply not there.

"I am concerned about the [party still holding on to Iraq as an issue]," said Hagel. "If for no other reason than the political factors here are quite obvious. This country has made a decision on Iraq, and as you see now in any poll, even a minimum of 25 percent of the registered Republicans cannot support the president's policy in Iraq. You take that with the independents and Democrats and you have anywhere between 60 and 70 percent who want out. So you can't politically sustain this and any party that uses this as an issue when they are going in the face of where America is, is not going to do very well politically. That is just the facts of life."

Hagel, who is retiring from the Senate, has not yet endorsed a candidate for the White House. While he considers McCain a friend, there is a vast gulf between the two on Iraq. But Hagel also has sharp disagreements with the troop withdrawal plans of Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton, which he views as overly rigid and hasty.

During a Wednesday event promoting his new book, "America: Our Next Chapter", Hagel was asked which candidate's "world vision" he most agreed with, Hagel evaded the question. "Nice try," he said, smiling. "How about this, I'll sign your book."

On Thursday, however, the Senator did show some awe and appreciation for Obama. Responding to news that the Illinois Democrat had raised more than $40 million in March (following $55 million in February), Hagel called him a "strong messenger," and even offered up a historical analogy to John Kennedy.

"It is a phenomenon," he said of Obama's fundraising. "It is something that I have never seen and I don't know if anybody else has ever seen it. It is unprecedented if you just look at the numbers. And what I think is astounding, not just the bottom line number in the short amount of time, but the average per contribution, and that is significant as well because it is so small... When you look at the next generation that Obama has broken into like nothing since John Kennedy... So his people have been very, very smart in how they use the Internet, and they obviously have a very strong messenger with a strong message."

As he approaches his leave from the Senate, Hagel has found himself increasingly at odds with his political party. On the issue of Iraq, he has been one of the fiercest critics of the Bush administration. And such a streak of independence had made the Nebraskan the center of talk about a potential third party run. That, however, has died down. But discussion over him teaming up with McCain or Obama has remained rampant.

And yet, any political partnership with McCain will have to be done over vast disagreements on the war. The two not only differ on the purpose and benefits of the war, but McCain has also yet to sign on to a revamped a version of the G.I. Bill, which Hagel and Sen. Jim Webb have vigorously endorsed.

"We have talked to John," Hagel said of the measure, which would remove the buy-in cost for veterans to receive greater education benefits. "John as you know has been involved on other pursuits. He has taken a close look at it, his people are. Both Webb and I had hoped he would get on it. Obviously Obama is on it and Clinton, three out of four Vietnam veterans in the Senate are on it, people like John Warner and James Inhofe are on it. So, obviously each Senator has to make his own decision on this thing. But we are going to continue to help educate McCain's staff and we hope he becomes part of it."

The Republican Party and its presumptive nominee Sen. John McCain are heading into a 2008 electoral buzzsaw with their continued support of the Iraq war, Sen. Chuck Hagel said in an interview with The...
The Republican Party and its presumptive nominee Sen. John McCain are heading into a 2008 electoral buzzsaw with their continued support of the Iraq war, Sen. Chuck Hagel said in an interview with The...
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Face a buzzsaw over Iraq?

I woulda been thrilled to see the Bush groupies face some waterboarding, but Sam Stein has raised the ante IMO.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:34 AM on 04/04/2008

hagel is a fraud who is just using his phony war stance to sell books and get attention. if not, would anyone know his name? nope

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:02 AM on 04/04/2008

What on earth are you talking about?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:15 AM on 04/04/2008
- Christian I'm a Fan of Christian 27 fans permalink
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Like you know what you are talking about, you know the man I'm sure. Why do you write anything when you have nothing but smear to spread? You want to better the world and this blog, find something smart to add, think about things and see of you can add enlightenment but smear, you only make a statement about yourself.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:41 AM on 04/04/2008

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You forgot to call him a spinless liberal white flag waving terrorist loving commie tree hugging hater of America defeatocrat.
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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 04/04/2008

He didn't have to. You did it for him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:48 AM on 04/04/2008
- incontempt I'm a Fan of incontempt 2 fans permalink

Those are already established "facts" lol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 04/04/2008

Apparently, you never watch C-Span, I differ on about 90% of Hagel's stand on social policies but I respect he's been one of the few Republicans who DARED repeatedly stand up in US Senate and publically say WTF are we doing in Iraq and how many more "lies" will we have to swallow.

He was branded a traitor by some in his own party and my guess that's big part why he's retiring, that and disgust with chicken-sh!t Republicans who privately know Iraq is a mistake but refuse to say it in public.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:35 AM on 04/04/2008
- Tages72 I'm a Fan of Tages72 18 fans permalink
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I'm a Democrat, and I would have gladly voted for Chuck Hagel if he had been in the race this year. An Obama/Hagel ticket would be fine by me. It would help unite the country after eight years of this nightmare that we call an administration.

Hagel made a great speech last year about an elected candidate's duty to follow through. It solified my respect for him. I'm glad to see there are still Republicans with enough guts and dignity to face Bush, Cheney, and their minions.

Hagel and Webb, unlike Bush's crowd, are true Vietnam vets. I hope John McCain sees the light and signs their new version of the G.I. Bill. For a former "maverick" like McCain, it should be a no-brainer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 04/03/2008
- Grunty1 I'm a Fan of Grunty1 216 fans permalink

If Hagel actually DID follow through, he would have a lot more respect. Instead, he talks a good game and votes with his party anyways.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:56 PM on 04/03/2008
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I guess that publishing this guy's actual voting record on Iraq is not part of the approved narrative.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:53 PM on 04/03/2008
- Azor I'm a Fan of Azor permalink

Show a list of ALL his war-related votes in the last year plus, not just a carefully customized version. As you know, or should know, Senate votes are not always what they seem, and can easily misinterpreted. Hagel's votes have been consistently anti-war recently, except for opposing de-funding (Feingold). He voted for timetables, he voted for redefining the mission, he voted against torture, Gitmo, to restore habeas corpus, and that's just off the top of my head. There are many valid reasons to criticize him (his SCHIP votes made me cringe, for instance), but saying one thing and doing something else is definitely NOT one of them.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/04/2008
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"Senate votes are not always what they seem"

Thanks.
I couldn't have said it better myself.
He does have a gift for voting like you say whenever the outcome is already obvious and he won't hurt the GOP's priorities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:01 PM on 04/04/2008
- BlueBoomer I'm a Fan of BlueBoomer 28 fans permalink

Is anybody besides me curious as hell as to what Hagel will be doing at this time next year???

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:45 PM on 04/03/2008
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Somebody, somewhere probably is curious about that.
I'll just be glad he's gone.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:50 PM on 04/03/2008
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You people are crazy.
His middle name is Bush!

Hagel:
Voted NO on redeploying non-essential US troops out of Iraq in 9 months. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:40 PM on 04/03/2008
- harriscrl3 I'm a Fan of harriscrl3 191 fans permalink

I like Chuck Hagel. We need to get out of Iraq pronto the ecomony CANNOT sustain it. The national debt is 9 trillion dollars. Is there some other hidden agenda to stay in Iraq like maybe if we take over the country we have all that vast oil reserve. I dont get why the wont get out of Iraq this Al Queada argument is NOT supported by facts. Al Queada is a small percentage and the factions OPPOSE them. Why are we still there? Is it pride well its not like its the first time we had to eventually leave Viet Nam too.

Carol

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:56 PM on 04/03/2008
- provgrays I'm a Fan of provgrays 29 fans permalink

Funny how Hagel grows a conscience on the way out the door, isn't it?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 PM on 04/03/2008
- nellie I'm a Fan of nellie 493 fans permalink
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Maybe he's on the way out because he grew a conscience.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 PM on 04/03/2008
- sufi66 I'm a Fan of sufi66 31 fans permalink
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Hagel voted against extending unemployment benefits to the needy in the "stimulus" package, joining Sununu and other right wing nuts to hurt many people.

What a compassionate guy!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:04 PM on 04/03/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

Actually, he is a man with a conscience. He and his brother both served in Vietman. I do not agree with his social conservatism, but I admire his integrity. He has not failed to criticize the Bush Co bastards and his party for this war. I give him Kudos for that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:11 PM on 04/03/2008

Wrong. Hagel has been talking sense about Iraq from the get-go. He was more vocal and more visibly questioning the Administration on Iraq than any of the Democrats. It is because of that, his lack of loyalty, that resulted in the Nebraska Republican Party from supporting him for re-election. That's what happens when you don't toe the line, even though he supported Bush about 95% of the time on his domestic agenda.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:09 PM on 04/03/2008
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When did the "get-go" start?
Today?
Here's the record.
It's a little different from your nonsense.
Hagel:
Voted NO on redeploying non-essential US troops out of Iraq in 9 months. (Dec 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying US troops out of Iraq by March 2008. (Mar 2007)
Voted NO on redeploying troops out of Iraq by July 2007. (Jun 2006)
Voted NO on investigating contract awards in Iraq & Afghanistan. (Nov 2005)
Voted YES on authorizing use of military force against Iraq. (Oct 2002)

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:21 PM on 04/03/2008

Hi,

It is now pretty obvious that Pres Bush and his administration intend to "ride it out" in Iraq and leave the tought decisions to the next President and his (her) administration.

This is the height of irresponsibility!!

What do u say to the families of those who will be killed or maimed for life? You volunteered? (this is what the VP has said of our sons and daughters). He should be ashamed except he apparently has no shame.

As LTG William Odem, USA (Ret) and Gen Barry McCaffrey, USA, (Ret) have said the Army and the Marine Corps cannot sustain this operation at this tempo. Apparently the President and his administration only care about getting to January 20, 2009 with the status quo in place. Obama and Clinton should have a field day with this one as they debate McCain and the Republicans.

What do U think??

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:22 PM on 04/03/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

I think that as a result of the Yoo memos, it is time to put these war criminals on trial. When we win this election, we will also win many seats in the senate and more in the house and we can have OUR justice department try these sons of bitches for their crimes. There is no question after these memos, that orders to torture the detainees came from the top. And to you freepers who are in this discussion, if you think torturing people is okay because they are not like you, then don't complain when one of ours is tortured.

You folks who continue to support this criminal administration deserve to suffer the rest of your lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 04/03/2008
- neocon43 I'm a Fan of neocon43 29 fans permalink

Your not going to win anything but a kick in the butt in November.C­annot wait to take apart the empty suit!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 04/03/2008
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Hagel must not be one of the lawmakers making a fortune off the war. DiFi, other Democrats, and plenty of Republicans are the only ones still supportive of the war, who continue writing Bush and Cheney blank checks (actually CREDIT because we're $9.35-tril­lion in debt, mostly due to this war and tax cuts). They're handsomely profiting while mortgaging our country to China, India and other foreign countries. They get the cash, while we get the tab for an over-burdened economy, our taxes hike (while their go down), only to see more than half of every tax dollar just paying interest on the notes the government has floated around the world. They've looted Social Security and Medicare, gutted most programs (EPA, FDA and other agencies which protect the public and consumers). They've grossly underfunded public education while raising unreasonable standards and mandating testing that Title I funds don't even cover. They've all got government healthcare (at our expense), but won't fund S-CHIP to keep our children healthy.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:14 PM on 04/03/2008

Didn't Hagel co-author the initial resolution to authorize the invasion? His remorse, only a result of the outcome, came even later than Clinton's.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:08 PM on 04/03/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

I do not believe he did Hagel is a decent man with principle even though I do not agree with his social conservative views.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:15 PM on 04/03/2008
- mill I'm a Fan of mill permalink

You are not fair to Sen. Hagel - he has been a plain-speaking quite independent voice about Iraq all along, joining Sen. Lugar on the Republican side to express reservations, question planning -
as it has unfolded he seems connected to reality in how he describes conditions in Iraq, unlike the surrealism of the President's and Vice President's characterizations.

he finally broke with his party on the issue, something very few on either side of the isle have done.

he is way too conservative for me on many issues, but on Iraq he has been a rare independent thinker

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:28 PM on 04/03/2008
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YEP and Chuck Hagel calls it like it is!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:00 PM on 04/03/2008
- Dingoangst I'm a Fan of Dingoangst 9 fans permalink
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I hope he is right about McCain and the buzz saw. After watching Hagel on TV yesterday, I had already decided he should be the running mate with Obama. This would create havoc with the Republicans. Then, Biden for Sec of State, Webb for Defense, and finally, John Turley for... Secretary of Putting Bush, Cheney and their Cohorts in Prison.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:50 PM on 04/03/2008

I like how you think!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:11 PM on 04/03/2008
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NO REPUBLICANS on the Democratic ticket. EVER.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:12 PM on 04/03/2008

Past presidents have had bipartisan cabinets. Hagel is really knowledgeable about foreign affairs, it has been his area of specialty ever since he started in the Senate. He would be good to have in the Cabinet. And his passion for foreign affairs came directly from his feeling of betrayal by the politicians in Washington when he served in VietNam. He is determined to not have the soldiers on the ground treated as cannon fodder for wrong-headed policies.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:14 PM on 04/03/2008

Telling - I thought the allure of Senator Obama is that "he's a uniter"

I understand he has no real history as a uniter, as when he chooses to actually cast a vote on important issues, he looks very partisan to me.

Still, your staunch support of partisanship tells us all we really need to know about a true Obama presidency.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:39 PM on 04/03/2008
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Jeremiah Wright for Press Secretary. It's a no-brainer.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:41 PM on 04/03/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

I think Jim Webb will be the perfect Veep for Obama

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:16 PM on 04/03/2008
- neocon43 I'm a Fan of neocon43 29 fans permalink

If it was not for Meccaca Webb would not even be in the senate.Ple­ase put him as V.P

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 04/03/2008

Dingoangst wrote:

~"Then, Biden for Sec of State,"~

What am I missing here? Under what circumstances would the first black president offer a cabinet post to a former competitor in the same campaign cycle when that competitor, the very white Senator Biden tells the good citizens of Iowa that their schools are better because the have fewer black students?

Sorry, I just don't see that happening - then again, I'm not caught-up in the Obamamania either.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:44 PM on 04/03/2008

Recent Iraq polls measuring public sentiment are very sour....
http://pollingreport.com/iraq.htm

Democrats who worry about McCain's lead have the wrong priority. This election may become a classic set-up proxy Republican victory. Many Republican voters sensing party annihilation will migrate to Democrats-not because they like or agree with these candidates or their muted desires for the most part, -but because they need a whipping boy/girl and scape goat to blame for Republican policies. In an act of future preservation, Republicans may become Democrats for 2008 to direct blame and damage away from Republicans to take bigger wins in 2012. Its called bet hedging.

History demonstrates that Republicans don't even have to win to have control. Look at the record:

Republicans successfully control the Democratic majority in the House and Senate. The war/occupation still rages on, impeachment is off the table, Democrats have scarcely objected to the anti-Constitutional Patriot Act, the tax giveaways to billionaires, and (earlier) even approved ultra conservative Supreme Court nominees. Sounds like best friends.

Both Hillary and Barack voted for all additional funding appropriations for the Iraq Holocaust. While a nominal Republican victory would be nice, its not necessary to get their way and might actually be an impediment to their agenda.

If Hillary or Barack wins, Republicans will still call the shots.Demo­crats will take the blame for Bush's failures. What happened to the party of FDR?

Fortunately, there is Ralph Nader. http://VoteNader.org

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:38 PM on 04/03/2008
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Insane.

Igore Nader.

Never forget what he did in 2004.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:13 PM on 04/03/2008
- biglover I'm a Fan of biglover 42 fans permalink

Ditto - Insane. Nader is done. I like the man for all the good he has done but he is nothing anymore as far as a viable candidate for any office. But he is a good, decent man. he didn't have to sacrifice a promise of a good life to take the stands he did. Let us give him the credit he deserves for the good things he has done.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:18 PM on 04/03/2008

What did he do?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 04/03/2008
- mill I'm a Fan of mill permalink

agreed

ignore nader, or risk conservative control in federal government AGAIN

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:35 PM on 04/03/2008
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Hagel just come out and endorse Obama. We know you want to.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:21 PM on 04/03/2008
- LizM I'm a Fan of LizM 50 fans permalink

If Senator Obama were not so completely disingenuous in his Iraq rhetoric, or so vacuous with respect to his prescriptions for the future of US policy in Iraq, then I am sure that Senator Hagel would be happy to endorse Barack Obama...th­ough he would have been much more inclined to have endorsed Joe Biden or, better yet, ran with him on the Democratic ticket.

That may yet be possible..­.call me a cock-eyed optimist!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 PM on 04/03/2008

Are you really an optimist?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:33 PM on 04/03/2008
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