McCain Is AWOL On New GI Bill

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First Posted: 04- 3-08 02:48 AM   |   Updated: 04-10-08 05:12 AM

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In November 2007, Sens. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel penned an op-ed in the New York Times advocating a reformed G.I. Bill that would provide Iraq war veterans with greater educational opportunities.

The idea, which was first introduced in January 2007, was at once ambitious and benign. Adjust the current landmark law -- which requires members of the armed services to pay $1,200 in order to participate -- to better account for spikes in tuition and living expenses. Not only would there be a greater incentive for those considering enlistment, but the American economy would be bolstered by an influx of educated veterans.

"We must put together the right formula that will demonstrate our respect for those who have stepped forward to serve in these difficult times," wrote Webb and Hagel. "First-class service to country deserves first-class appreciation."

Flash-forward several months and Webb and Hagel's vision (after months of consideration) is on the cusp of codification. The 21st Century G.I. Bill may be included in the language of the next Iraq war supplemental. And while, if considered separately, it could require 60 votes for passage, more than 50 Senators -- including many Republicans -- have already signed on as co-sponsors.

And yet, surprisingly, one of those Senators who has not yet offered his support is John McCain. How could a veteran of Vietnam and someone widely touted as Congress' foremost champions of veterans' affairs not sign on to a largely bipartisan, uncontroversial measure? (Both Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are co-sponsors).

A member of the organization Student Veterans of America asked the presumptive GOP nominee that very question several months after Webb and Hagel wrote their op-ed.

"I have not had the chance to examine it carefully," he said. "It seems to me that it is a good thing to do. But I haven't examined it with the care that it needs. But we obviously need to do something along those lines."

To this day, however, McCain has not signed on. Those committed to the legislation say they hold out hope and some expectation that he will ultimately back the measure (whether it be through co-sponsorship or a simple 'yes' vote). But the Senator's lack of leadership on the topic has been telling.

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"John McCain needs to be on this bill," Webb said in a statement to The Huffington Post. "I have said to him several times that this is not a political issue -- this is about providing a fair, deserved benefit to our troops. Based on his own military history and how strongly he speaks about the positive contributions of the people who have served, I hope that he will get on board and support this new GI bill."

Indeed, opposition to the measure in the Senate is limited at best. There are those who argue that the cost -- roughly $2 billion more annually than the current bill -- is prohibitive. But last fall, Congress appropriated $19 billion or education grants on the basis of financial need. Moreover, the price tag for the Webb-Hagel measure is about the same as the cost of just a week at war.

The real hang-up for McCain may be the fact that the Bush administration has resisted the legislation. White House officials say that giving soldiers such an strong incentive to leave the armed forces would result in low retention rates. Soldiers sign up and -- after two years -- leave the army in droves to get their free education.

But as The American Conservative pointed out, it is "creepy" that defense officials would assume that "every enlistee should want nothing more than a life-time career as a professional soldier." Moreover, what's more of a retention killer: a violent and lengthy war in Iraq or the promise of education should you serve?

In the end, the bill, political observers say, is likely to pass with or without McCain's support. After all, it is tough to vote against a measure that gives veterans tuition, room and board, and a monthly stipend in exchange for their service. As The Washington Post editorialized: "Mr. Webb is right when he argues that the education of the nation's veterans must be considered a cost of war and one that the nation can't afford not to pay."

UPDATE: For more on this issue, check out this post by Gen. Wesley Clark, Iraq veteran Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org, and Brave New Films' Robert Greenwald.

Brave New Films' new video is below:

In November 2007, Sens. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel penned an op-ed in the New York Times advocating a reformed G.I. Bill that would provide Iraq war veterans with greater educational opportunities. The...
In November 2007, Sens. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel penned an op-ed in the New York Times advocating a reformed G.I. Bill that would provide Iraq war veterans with greater educational opportunities. The...
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McCain never saved anyone's life-not a true hero. And he certainly does NOT support the troops-just the idea of war and more war. Still not a hero. Just a warmonger. Just because he says hes's a straight talker doesn't make it true.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:35 AM on 04/03/2008

Right on the money. Dropping bombs on women and children from 30,000 ft. in the air is not heroic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/03/2008

What the F does that mean, "not a true hero"? Out of what orifice did you pull that definition of "hero"?

The guy is a jerk twenty ways from Sunday, but he was still a war hero who survived five years of torture in a POW camp. Everyone who comes out of an experience like that qualifies as a hero. That doesn't qualify him as a President (or, even as a Senator), however.

Hit the dictionary. Read first, then write.

Thanks.

mp

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:55 AM on 04/03/2008
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 22 fans permalink

McCain says he was tortured, there are doubts about that though. I never heard he said he was tortured,I did not read his book either. So really I don't know.

He submitted a bill against torture but did not really fight for it. Bush attached a signing statement and McCain said nothing.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:08 PM on 04/03/2008
- SeaOats I'm a Fan of SeaOats 2 fans permalink

McCain didn't support the Senate effort to enforce troop rest regulations, either. He's the pro-war anti-military candidate.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:33 AM on 04/03/2008
- Grannysue I'm a Fan of Grannysue 133 fans permalink
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Can you say Hypocrite!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:27 AM on 04/03/2008
- Wulfstan I'm a Fan of Wulfstan 8 fans permalink

Bomber McCain sees the world through a bombsight.

Bomb, bomb, bomb Ira ah an.

Courtesy the Beach Boys

He wants to build up the military.

How can this be done without conscription.

Do you want your children to die in a useless foreign war ?

The War Forever Party approved this message and which was sponsored by friends of the Pentagon Black Hole.

I hear a giant sucking sound as blood is sucked by these vampires.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 04/03/2008
- elbzee I'm a Fan of elbzee 22 fans permalink
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I absolutely love it when patriotic war supporters who insist that we "fight them there" proceed to squat and take huge dumps right on the heads of our volunteer soldiers (Thanks again for reminding us Dick). Deplorable conditions at Walter Reed, inadequate body armor, cutting tours days short to avoid benefits, failure to accurately complete discharge papers to ensure benefits, stop loss, etc.

We must support our troops by endlessly feeding them into the meat grinder. Any thing other than that WOULD NOT SUPPORT OUR VALIANT TROOPS.

At what point will we Americans wake up to observe that the war mongers' actions don't quite support their rhetoric?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:17 AM on 04/03/2008
- lysistrata I'm a Fan of lysistrata 22 fans permalink

The Republicans never cared for the soldier, only the military hardware, the profit of the defense industry.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 PM on 04/03/2008

Quick question brought to mind by comments in this thread:

I know that there are Sailors, Marines, Soldiers, and Airmen.
What's the equivalent term, if there is one, for Coasties? Are they also Sailors since they are attached to the Navy when summoned to war?

(And remember, please send Congress a message of your support of this bill.

http://www.congress.org/military/issues/alert/?alertid=10990556

http://www.markudall.com/page/s/GIBill )

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:10 AM on 04/03/2008

Don't know what the term for "Being under six feet tall" is - Requirement in the Coast Guard is that if your boat sinks, you can be able to walk ashore.

However, in reality, the word Heroic should be applied to many serving in the US Coast Guard - Their work during the Katrina disaster was outstanding an, surely, heroic. And, they have saved many a fisherman in the icy seas off the Alaskan coast and the Pacific Northwest.

A Gallant breed serves in the Coast Guard.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:25 AM on 04/03/2008
- zizyphus I'm a Fan of zizyphus 110 fans permalink
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Of course veterans should have free college education, and so should every other American, or vocational training to the limits of their abilities.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:04 AM on 04/03/2008
- Witkacy I'm a Fan of Witkacy 22 fans permalink
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Absolutely!

But maybe this is the hold-up for McCain: does he see this bill as a foot in the door for "Big Government" as he & his kind like to call it? Sure seems that ideology trumps doing the right and the practical thing, here; and in this he's looking VERY close to BushCo!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:28 AM on 04/03/2008

McCain loves to play up his warrior image, but he has done NOTHING to protect our soldiers (he voted AGAINST the anti-torture bill) and has done nothing to provide for their opportunities if and when they return to the US. This man is a fake. A fake warrior. A fake regular guy. A total fake.

You want four more years of George Bush? McCain is your man.

I want my country back and McCain will NEVER EVER help make that happen. He is old and out of touch with average Americans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:02 AM on 04/03/2008
- Beckyjo I'm a Fan of Beckyjo 3 fans permalink

Never Give Up's post is exactly right! This whole country is grateful for the service Sen.McCain's military service, and we honor him for his captivity in Viet Nam, but apparently he holds no honor for the troops serving in Iraq. The first job he had after returning from Viet Nam was with the company owned by his present wife's family. Ever since then he has lived on the largesse of the American people, first as a representative and since then, as a US senator. This country has been good to him, but his heart is not with the present military. He loves the attention he is getting now, and he honestly feels America still owes him for his military service. How can he be for torture, and how can he not sign on the bill that will in some small way repay the survivors of this horrendous war which he helped lead us into? He owes these young men and women bigtime!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:24 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

As I was lecturing "nevergiveup" earlier, if you want to lie, lie better. McCain returned to US in 1973. He attended the National War College between 1973 and 1974. He became Commanding Officer of a training squadron stationed in Florida in late 1974. Is that not his first job? McCain served as the Navy's liaison to the U.S. Senate, beginning in 1977. That is another job. He did not meet his current wife until 1979.

So, unless you claim that Hensley & Co. somehow owns the US military, I have to conclude that you are a liar.

If you meant his first civilian job since he retired from the military in 1981, not when he returned from Viet Nam in 1973, was to become the Vice President of Public Relations for Hensley & Co., then you would have been correct.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:49 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

When you say "he voted AGAINST the anti-torture bill", were you lying through your teeth? Or were you mis-informed? Or did you mean some other bill than the one he sponsored that is called "Detainee Treatment Act of 2005" which "prohibits inhumane treatment of prisoners, including prisoners at Guantanamo Bay; requires military interrogations to be performed according to the U.S. Army Field Manual for Human Intelligence Collector Operations; and strips federal courts of jurisdiction to consider habeas corpus petitions filed by prisoners in Guantanamo, or other claims asserted by Guantanamo detainees against the U.S. government, as well as limiting appellate review of decisions of the Combatant Status Review Tribunals and Military Commissions"?

A liar calling a man fake usually suggests that the man is not fake.

I did not want the first 4 years of Bush and I certainly did not want the second 4 years of Bush. However, even if I want four more years of George Bush, there is this little thing called Constitution that prohibits him from running again.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:00 AM on 04/03/2008
- klmebane I'm a Fan of klmebane 19 fans permalink
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the constitution may prohibit bush from running again, but it doesn't prohibit mccain from running the country THE EXACT SAME WAY BUSH DID.

we aren't talking about 2005, we are talking about now. mccain was against torture in '05, and that's great, but his actions say he no longer is. you agree with not allowing the federal gov't to consider habeas corpus petitions?? what the hell are they for then?? limiting appellate review of those fake trials (aka tribunals) is not a good thing by any stretch of the imagination.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:17 PM on 04/03/2008
- osage I'm a Fan of osage 297 fans permalink
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Iraq's Sadr calls million-strong march against US

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSL2423186320080403

Now that McCain has "learned" that al-Sadr's influence ISN'T on the wane, perhaps this bit of "progressive" news will be of no "surprise" to him. When ONE MAN has the power to undo everything Bush claims to have "accomplished" in Iraq, how stable is the proclaimed "progress" in Iraq. And the only government al-Sadr listens to isn't in Iraq or the U.S., it's in IRAN!

Bush has wasted hundreds of billions, perhaps trillions, of taxpayer's dollars and move than 4000 American lives.......and what exactly has been accomplished that justifies the losses and sacrifices of so many? NOTHING! ABSOLUTELY NOTHING! And John Sidney McCain, III doesn't mind if it continues for another 100 years?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 AM on 04/03/2008
- gomonkeygo I'm a Fan of gomonkeygo 4 fans permalink

I think it's all summed up in one line: "the Senator's lack of leadership" - says it all.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 04/03/2008
- GeoNorth I'm a Fan of GeoNorth 12 fans permalink

I don't buy the retention argument. Right now, they have soldiers who want out but are held back by stop loss. Then there are soldiers who are warriors to their very core and will stay forever. Either way, they all serve their country. They all deserve the best we can give them. America lags behind the rest of the world in many ways including economy, health and education. This country needs the best educated people in the military and civilian life. When you combine education with the disciplne the military instills, a nation will gain an advantage. some will leave the military, go to school and enter the civilian community, some others may go back to the military. either way, america wins.

Shame on the neo-cons for playing games with soldier's lives.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:47 AM on 04/03/2008

This is a serious issue, the warmongering Republicans have been AWOL on this issue since they tried to block the original GI Bill passed by a Democratic Congress after WW2. There is an old saying “if you want to play you have to pay”, a concept many Republicans just don’t understand these days. If you look at the voting records of Congressional Republicans, which are available from the IAVA and Vote Vets, they have not been strong on this issue. McCain is not unique and the flag waving support the troops reputation that Republicans enjoy is simply a fiction. I have conservative friends and family who have zero empathy for these guys coming back jobless and broken. My wing-nut brother-in-law takes the Rush position that veterans are a bunch of Rambos and any vet who dose not approve of Bush’s policies in Iraq are phony soldiers.

The original GI Bill helped my father buy the home I grew up in and he paid it back. One interesting note my father an infantry combat vet, earned 2 bronze stars and a purple heart, saw combat in 5 bloody campaigns, did not love war, it was an experience he wanted to forget. At the end of the WW 2, jobs were plentiful since America emerged as a world economic power. I currently know a Marine who just came back from Iraq and he is working in a video store, he is not mucho, his humility is rather striking.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/03/2008

McCain voted for vets 18% of the time

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:34 AM on 04/03/2008
- hsk01945 I'm a Fan of hsk01945 3 fans permalink

Olde man McCant is phony as a three dollar bill, and will say anything and do anything to get elected. Also, I am convinced - he is the Manchurian Candidate. Besides, I don't like him.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:33 AM on 04/03/2008
- saxmaniac I'm a Fan of saxmaniac 6 fans permalink

As a Vietnam era vet, I've personally experienced the effects of administrations who simply do not care for their veterans. The worst has been Bush II, especially Walter Reed and Bethesda. McCain turning his back on our returning veterans is simply more of the same. How can anyone possibley support him?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:31 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

First you have to prove to me that he is turning his back on our returning veterans.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:23 PM on 04/03/2008
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