McCain Is AWOL On New GI Bill

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First Posted: 04- 3-08 02:48 AM   |   Updated: 04-10-08 05:12 AM

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In November 2007, Sens. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel penned an op-ed in the New York Times advocating a reformed G.I. Bill that would provide Iraq war veterans with greater educational opportunities.

The idea, which was first introduced in January 2007, was at once ambitious and benign. Adjust the current landmark law -- which requires members of the armed services to pay $1,200 in order to participate -- to better account for spikes in tuition and living expenses. Not only would there be a greater incentive for those considering enlistment, but the American economy would be bolstered by an influx of educated veterans.

"We must put together the right formula that will demonstrate our respect for those who have stepped forward to serve in these difficult times," wrote Webb and Hagel. "First-class service to country deserves first-class appreciation."

Flash-forward several months and Webb and Hagel's vision (after months of consideration) is on the cusp of codification. The 21st Century G.I. Bill may be included in the language of the next Iraq war supplemental. And while, if considered separately, it could require 60 votes for passage, more than 50 Senators -- including many Republicans -- have already signed on as co-sponsors.

And yet, surprisingly, one of those Senators who has not yet offered his support is John McCain. How could a veteran of Vietnam and someone widely touted as Congress' foremost champions of veterans' affairs not sign on to a largely bipartisan, uncontroversial measure? (Both Sens. Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton are co-sponsors).

A member of the organization Student Veterans of America asked the presumptive GOP nominee that very question several months after Webb and Hagel wrote their op-ed.

"I have not had the chance to examine it carefully," he said. "It seems to me that it is a good thing to do. But I haven't examined it with the care that it needs. But we obviously need to do something along those lines."

To this day, however, McCain has not signed on. Those committed to the legislation say they hold out hope and some expectation that he will ultimately back the measure (whether it be through co-sponsorship or a simple 'yes' vote). But the Senator's lack of leadership on the topic has been telling.

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"John McCain needs to be on this bill," Webb said in a statement to The Huffington Post. "I have said to him several times that this is not a political issue -- this is about providing a fair, deserved benefit to our troops. Based on his own military history and how strongly he speaks about the positive contributions of the people who have served, I hope that he will get on board and support this new GI bill."

Indeed, opposition to the measure in the Senate is limited at best. There are those who argue that the cost -- roughly $2 billion more annually than the current bill -- is prohibitive. But last fall, Congress appropriated $19 billion or education grants on the basis of financial need. Moreover, the price tag for the Webb-Hagel measure is about the same as the cost of just a week at war.

The real hang-up for McCain may be the fact that the Bush administration has resisted the legislation. White House officials say that giving soldiers such an strong incentive to leave the armed forces would result in low retention rates. Soldiers sign up and -- after two years -- leave the army in droves to get their free education.

But as The American Conservative pointed out, it is "creepy" that defense officials would assume that "every enlistee should want nothing more than a life-time career as a professional soldier." Moreover, what's more of a retention killer: a violent and lengthy war in Iraq or the promise of education should you serve?

In the end, the bill, political observers say, is likely to pass with or without McCain's support. After all, it is tough to vote against a measure that gives veterans tuition, room and board, and a monthly stipend in exchange for their service. As The Washington Post editorialized: "Mr. Webb is right when he argues that the education of the nation's veterans must be considered a cost of war and one that the nation can't afford not to pay."

UPDATE: For more on this issue, check out this post by Gen. Wesley Clark, Iraq veteran Jon Soltz of VoteVets.org, and Brave New Films' Robert Greenwald.

Brave New Films' new video is below:

In November 2007, Sens. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel penned an op-ed in the New York Times advocating a reformed G.I. Bill that would provide Iraq war veterans with greater educational opportunities. The...
In November 2007, Sens. Jim Webb and Chuck Hagel penned an op-ed in the New York Times advocating a reformed G.I. Bill that would provide Iraq war veterans with greater educational opportunities. The...
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- kenfoh I'm a Fan of kenfoh 2 fans permalink

My prediction is that either McCain will support this bill after any support from him will matter all that much or he will continue to stonewall hoping that the bigger republican machine can overcome this bill and he believes that he won't get the blame for it.... . too bad he is representing the Republican Party and too bad many, many more people including scores of OEF/OIF Veterens are paying more and closer attention than ever before.... too bad for John. What the politicians of yesterday fail to realize is that Americans are upset AND paying attention.... that tends to happen when politicians send people to a war that was based on lies and continue to argue that we should stay and kill more young Americans while at the same time they cannot support legislation that would actually help the warriors AND our economy long-term... lets get real people.... its time to send these fake, self-serving, disgusting, politically inept, DISHONORABLE people on their way to live out their miserably sad lives so that the new generation can slowly but surely get this Country back on track and focused on the good of the Country and not the good of the powerful.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:27 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

Did you pay Obama royalty for using his speech?

Like Obama, what you failed to realize is that sending all the old men/women packing will NOT solve anything. The monopolies we have in this country is the ultimate outcome of any capitalist society; the economical crisis we have result from 1913 when the Fed was put in place to charge the government interest for printing its own money AND when the IRS was put in place so the government can tax our labor to pay for the interest the Fed charges the government; the military industrial complex started to dominate our political landscape including our foreign policy since the 1950s.

Change without clear goals is just chaos.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 PM on 04/03/2008

Jim Webb is cool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 04/03/2008
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Yep, that's the conservative philosophy for you: "I got mine, screw the rest of you." Kind of like Clarence Thomas going to college on the Martin Luther King Affirmative Action Scholarship, then coming out against affirmative action. And to think that there were those who said McCain wasn't a true conservative!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

Until he actually votes against the bill, I will give him the benefit of the doubt. As for Clarence Thomas, which college did he attend on the Affirmative Action Scholarship?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/03/2008
- melonman I'm a Fan of melonman 2 fans permalink

McBush Lite as usual has his finger to the wind and won't commit until he absolutely, positively has to. As a president, he'll make a great fighter pilot.

Straight-talk express? More like double-talk express.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:19 AM on 04/03/2008
- captnEarl I'm a Fan of captnEarl 8 fans permalink
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DOUBLE TALK EXPRESS is a great handle for McBomb or McSenile the Democrats need to get on it.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

1. Bush was a weekend warrior if that and "served" during the time of war in AL. McCain was a War Hero and a POW that no one can dispute. Bush Lite?

2. McCain-Kennedy and McCain Feingold had made McCain the enemy of the ultra-right. He "won't commit until he absolutely, positively has to"? Did he HAVE to make enemy in his own party? Did he HAVE to risk his political career?

3. I don't know if McCain was a great fighter pilot since he did get shot down. I don't know if McCain will be a great President since he will inherent the mess we have. But how are they even related?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:01 AM on 04/03/2008
- batgirlevi I'm a Fan of batgirlevi 9 fans permalink

Well he's already violated the mccain/ Feingold finance reform bill and I'm guessing he read that one.

This complete asshole is out for himself and himself only. He has no loyalty to our military persons since he's A OK with torture. Why will he care if they get any education? mcbush wants to have his cake and eat it too in everything he does.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/03/2008
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 90 fans permalink
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Remember when McCain was so against torture and pushed Dubya to sign his torture reform bill? Then Dubya and his rethugs bitch-slapped McCain all over the place until McCain got on board with them.

This is why McCain is the perfect example of a prostitute; someone who has sold out their personal integrity for personal gain. He's the perfect example of why prostitution is the oldest profession. It didn't begin with sex, with women selling their bodies. It began with people like McCain, who sell their souls.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 AM on 04/03/2008
- wagadog I'm a Fan of wagadog 47 fans permalink

Unfortunately, the goal of ReThugs is not an educated and healthy people.

We, the people, only exist to make their corporations richer and more powerful.

If we can't do that for them, we can just go die as far as they're concerned.

That's what the big wealth gap is about, and that's what the war is about, and that's what the credit crisis is about, that's what the housing crisis is about and that's what the health care crisis is about: kill kill kill kill the poor.

But why? Why kill kill kill kill the poor? Because they're bad people -- their poverty is the proof. Just ask Job's comforters. And, you know it's fault of poor people being bankrupted by one illness and thrown out of their homes that the big Wall St. investment banker might feel the pinch when he gasses up his corporate jet. If this crisis goes on any longer, why, why he might even have to forgo buying that 150' superyacht third trophy wife Kiki fell in love with in Antibes last summer!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:12 AM on 04/03/2008
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 90 fans permalink
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Good comments. You've got it right.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:28 AM on 04/03/2008
- RickO I'm a Fan of RickO 61 fans permalink
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It's a shame that those who would so enthusiastically send our young people to war could give a shit about them once they come home. Ironically, but not surprisingly, this is the same crowd that shouts pro-life, but doesn't seem to care once the child is born, at least until they're old enough to be cannon fodder.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 AM on 04/03/2008
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Like my father, I got a full ride through college, a home loan
and the world's crappiest medical care for my service.

These people deserve more. Johnny McSongbird's a tool.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:06 AM on 04/03/2008

McCain has not signed on because "I have not had the chance to examine it carefully".

Or could it be because…giving soldiers such a strong incentive to leave the armed forces would result in low retention rates. Soldiers sign up and -- after two years -- leave the army in droves to get their free education. But we can't expect MCSAME to wage his 100 YEAR WAR without their LIFETIME committment!

Or could it be because...the cost -- roughly $2 billion more annually than the current bill -- is prohibitive. But the price tag for the Webb-Hagel measure is about the same as the cost of just a WEEK AT WAR!

In the end, the bill is likely to pass with or without McCain's support. After all, it is tough to vote against a measure that gives veterans tuition, room and board, and a monthly stipend in exchange for their service. The education of the nation's veterans must be considered a cost of war and one that the nation can't afford not to pay.

The Bush administration has resisted the legislation -- as well as John McSAME! Do we need any more PROOF that they DO NOT "support the troops"?

OBAMA '08!
HOPE & CHANGE!

Stay safe, healthy and happy,
Love, Loretta

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:03 AM on 04/03/2008
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I don't buy the "low retention" argument. With Stop-Loss in place, the administration is keeping soldiers longer than their initial enlistments anyway. This bill doesn't do anything to counter that.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:18 AM on 04/03/2008
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 90 fans permalink
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I believe the "low retention" argument is the fear that soldiers won't stay and become lifers, if they have incentive to get a college degree and get on with their lives. The government wants people to have no alternatives, and thus go for military careers. That's how I interpret the argument.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:36 AM on 04/03/2008
- Jess27 I'm a Fan of Jess27 2 fans permalink

I just received an honorable discharge from the Marine Corps in '07 after four years of service and never met a single Marine who was stop-lossed. I don't believe that it is something that happens frequently so that is moot in this debate.

Something that was not mentioned by Loretta in the comment above is the fact that while on active duty, tuition is free. The GI Bill (which I am receiving now) is not near the cost of tuition, but if I was still enlisted I would not pay any tuition. So, I don't think the amount of money received from GI Bill would cause more troops to leave at the end of their contract. Also, you have to look at the fact that money for college is the only reason why many people enlist in the first place. The sole reason why I enlisted was because I didn't want to come out of college $40,000 in debt.

I think there would only be two outcomes from an increase in GI Bill funds:
1. More college bound students would enlist to help pay for their education.
2. It would increase the number of Vets to get an education because they might actually be able to afford it.

While the GI Bill helps pay for college, I am still running up student loan debt.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:53 AM on 04/03/2008

Totally kicked OFF again! Censorship tech's working overtime for Charter Michigan!

This Is NOT the Johnny Ma I've Known all these Year- An Admirable Foe.
There is Something SERIOULY WRONG with this New Version.
Strokes? deterioration From Repeated Beating Long Ago?
Another Front Man Who is Unable to Comprehend the Crimes Dick, Rummy & Wolfie have Pulling As the Shadow Regime for Decades?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:00 AM on 04/03/2008

I'm not surprised. Republicans just view the troops as cannon fodder, why would they want them to get any rewards for their service? They have contempt for all American people - that's the only thing that they've proved.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:58 AM on 04/03/2008
- Ammobob I'm a Fan of Ammobob 36 fans permalink

Since the op-ed piece makes no mention of the particular budget specifics of revamping the GI Bill, I cannot properly evaluate the cost-benefit of such legislation. I an wary of Webb-Hagel as the main sponsors though. That being said, I received my 3 college degrees via the Montgomery GI Bill and have encouraged my son not to leave the military until this benefit is in the 'bank' so to speak. This benefit and the guaranteed VA Home Loan program are excellent.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:53 AM on 04/03/2008

Just another example of liberals wanting government to do it all for you - Have you no personal responsibility? Double Talk is correct - Why ask the government for a hand out, when a returning vet can simply marry a Beer Heiress - Of course, first either divorce your current wife or send out a slew of Dear Johns to those lady friends from the GI bars.

As for the returning women vets, aren't there still a couple of Coors guys around?.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:51 AM on 04/03/2008
- mengwise36 I'm a Fan of mengwise36 3 fans permalink

With people like you, I am beginning to see why the Democratic party was once the party of the KKK. Unless you can prove that he was NOT captured, that he was NOT tortured, that he is just FAKING not be able to raise his arm, I think you should show some respect. The guy did not need to marry rich. His dad was already pretty well-off.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:20 AM on 04/03/2008

And Republicans were once the party of Lincoln... and then both did a switcheroo. Your point?
The guy's point is not that McCain didn't serve his country honorably. His point clearly is that McCain is showing a disinterest in the economic plight of the largely-poor majority of the armed forces.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:30 AM on 04/03/2008
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LOL

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 AM on 04/03/2008
- captnEarl I'm a Fan of captnEarl 8 fans permalink
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Hey sicko-- I am a 65 year old vereran who used both the home load G.I. loan and the educational bennifits and as a result of the educational bennifits I have been able to be in the 30% tax bracket thus these educational bennifits are a win win for our country

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:39 AM on 04/03/2008
- Jess27 I'm a Fan of Jess27 2 fans permalink

You have proved your ignorance. The fact is, most people entering the service pay $1200 for the GI Bill. Then you have to look at how many actually go on to collect the GIB. I wish I had a percentage but I don't think that is released to the public. There are a lot of troops that never use a dime of the GI Bill that they bought into.

Your argument is truly garbage also for the fact that the military is SERVING the country and the GI Bill is the main reason why some choose to serve. Without that incentive I would have never enlisted and the same is true for others I know. Without incentives for enlistment, there is no way the military would be able to keep people enlisting for your party's stupid war!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:20 AM on 04/03/2008
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The White House is resisting the measure because having educated veterans, indeed, having an educated general populace is not part of the neocon agenda. Educated people are less likely to be manipulated by sound bites and slogons.

McCain believes he can't win without the support of the Bush administration, so he's avoiding this measure.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:50 AM on 04/03/2008
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As a vet this is just another reason why I would never vote for McWar.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:48 AM on 04/03/2008
- Collielady I'm a Fan of Collielady 90 fans permalink
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Thanks for your service.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:54 AM on 04/03/2008
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