Pregnant Man On Oprah: I Have Intercourse With My Wife

Thomas the now famous transgendered pregnant man appeared on "Oprah" today and talked about the impending birth of his child. Thomas kept his female reproductive organs to one day have children. He and his wife Nancy shared their excitement and their nerves over the impending birth, and got specific with what happened to make this possible. They had trouble finding a doctor willing to take Thomas on a obstetrics patient, but did, and then used a sperm donor. Nancy delivered the sperm to Thomas at home. Thomas, 34, went off of testosterone two years beforehand so he could get pregnant. However, the testosterone, he tells a curious Oprah, had over the years enlarged his clitoris into a small penis, enabling him to have intercourse with his wife.

Read all the Thomas' appearance on Oprah on her website. He is also featured in the new issue of People magazine.

Thomas as Tracy:

Comments

[Oilygarch]

One really is who one is in their heart, their soul and in their mind. The vessel does not make the individual. The vessel can be altered to follow the heart, the mind, the soul. And if one is happy and inclined with experiencing the best of both worlds, so be it.

Sounds to me like a bunch of sour grapes from those who complain and have not walked a mile in the shoes of those they seek to ridicule. The such would never approach being able to fathom the notion of a lesbian imprisoned in a man's body.

Also, the "social" sex of hermaphrodites is often picked by their parents before they even have a say in the matter. Unlike baptism, these choices made for them exogenously aren't easily undone at any future age, let alone any age of "consent".

Furthermore, such operations are relatively inexpensive in some parts of the world, such as Thailand: Often referred to as Tranny Capital of the World.

Today, it would be whatever floats one's boat, provided all parties are happy. It is obvious that in this case, this is a happy couple and that this is a wanted child who will be entering this world.

It would seem that its parents are showing much more commitment than for many children entering this world the orthodox way. So, when one weighs it all out, why not live and let them live in their obvious happiness.

Sex stereotypes are so overrated and so yesteryear!

[Anciano]

This freak is no more a man than a dog with chicken feathers stapled to it is a bird.
Out of six billion plus people on the planet you are going find some amazing freaks of nature. This is one of them. You can no more change your gender than you can your species.

[LeoMarvin]

I just said about 30 seconds ago that comments like yours were inevitable, but that doesn't make them any less mean-spirited and reprehensible

[MM5]

Ok...a little mean but REALLY funny about the dog with chicken feathers etc.

This story on the whole is ridiculous­...this person is anatomically a female as far as necessary organs to sustain a pregnancy so NO NEWS HERE! Just b/c this person took hormones to look male does not make this some sort of miracle.

[MalloMel]

I don't see what all the fuss is about. I love women and I am not threatened by what this person does. What is going on here? Why are so many people fixated on this persons sexuality. I don't get it. Just go have sex with your partner and don't worry about what other people do with their sex lives. I'm serious. Leave other people alone and enjoy your own life. If you are fixated on this persons sexuality, then maybe there is a problem that you are not acknowledging.

[LeoMarvin]

It's a news story. Putting something in front of millions of TV watchers is an invitation to react, not to courteously turn their heads and let these people have their private lives. It's not the pretty side of humanity, but it's absolutely predictable. They have nobody to blame but themselves.

[MalloMel]

LeoMarvin, I kinda agree with you, but I still think that there is a problem with people who are fixated on this and who see this as some kind of threat to their own sexuality. I guess I am fortunate, as I am not threatened by this at all. My woman is my own personal porno queen, and I am her personal Mandingo :) We really don't have any reason to put other's sexuality down. Sorry to be so blunt, but that's the way it is. Actually, I'm not sorry at all :)

[Arguman]

arrrg. She is not a biological man. Stupid Conservative and Liberal media. In her mind she is a man. But her biology says she is a woman. Why the hell is this even news?

[NotMyPrez]

Still have a uterus- you're a woman, jackass. Why they insist on calling this person a He- when really it's a hermaphrodite is beyond me.

[googlymoogly]

Women don't need men. In a few thousand years maybe less the entire planet earth will be all women. Now that's a scarry thought...­.

[MalloMel]

Why is it scary? You won't be here.

[LeoMarvin]

We don't need either gender, so evebody better sleep with one eye open.

[MalloMel]

I can only say that I wish him and his child the best of everything. Any problems that they have will not be their own doing but the doing of the a@@holes that they have to deal with.

[Iraqnophobia]

please dont have children.

[MalloMel]

I do, and I'm happy to say that they have turned out well, in spite of people like you.

[TLV]

Whenever I read the confusion that some have over how a woman could love a man who was a woman or the confusion over their sex life, I have to ask myself why other people are so concerned about the sex lives of others...e­specially people they do not know!

There are actually people in this world who cannot have sex, will never have sex, and may not even care to have sex even if they could. Does that really diminish the human heart from giving or receiving love? If so, I guess none of us should ever become disabled to the point of losing our ability to have sex because - wooops! - the capacity to love someone else will disappear along with it. Better not get old and crippled up either. Or get erectile dysfunction. Or multiple sclerosis. Or nerve damage. Or tired from chasing the toddler. Or depressed. Or......?

[cathye]

I know a perfectly heteronormative couple that has no sex live because she's afraid of it. They're best friends, and as she put it, they have a G-rated marriage. She has had gender identity issues as well, but he married her anyway because they did very much want to spend the rest of their lives together.

My fiance is my best friend as well . . . now, we're most definitely not in a G rated relationship, but that's neither here nor there. Friendship trumps sexuality in the best of marriages.

[KevinDean]

Beautifully put, TLV.
Sure, he is not a biological man, no doubt. He is a transgendered man. I agree people can not change their birth genders. They can, however, change the apperance of their gender. I think a better title to this story would be "Apperances Can Be Decieving". Good luck to both parents...­unfortunat­ley they will need it.

[vandegrasse]

Vestis virum non reddit.

[Trueheart]

Transgendered? Oh please....­..HE is a woman.

HE paid a lot of money to butcher HER female anatomy so that SHE could attempt to replicate the male sexual experience.

Now HE wants to replicate the female reproductive experience by giving birth.

I guess if you have enough money, then you can buy just about any experience you desire.

My heart breaks for the innocent baby who will be born into this carnival of the absurd.

[thehawke]

I don't even know where to begin with this drivel. Even if I did know where, I don't think it is worth my time.

[signifyingnothing]

Honey, your heart doesn't break for anything but yourself.

[Shofar]

Actually Trueheart, what is the real "humdinger" in this sad and pathetic carnival, is that they are BOTH WOMEN!! No amount of high tech Frankenstein-like surgery will EVER change that. And the sad psychosis gets deeper; because they are both confused and confusing; one woman wants to be with a woman BUT is actually with a woman who wants to be a man??? It's willful ignorance at its highest...­or lowest, depending on your perspective. SHE is NOT a man and NEVER will be. Neither will a man EVER "really be a TRUE woman". That's just the solid facts. All this political "pole dancing" is enough to make anyone hurl someone else' lunch! I mean really. And to think that it's being expected by these sadly deluded individuals and their supporters, that the MAJORITY of the citizens in the USA or ANY other country should feel all "warm and fuzzy" about this twisted escapade.

NEWS FLASH!! The VAST MAJORITY of the human beings living on this planet ABHOR this type of deviant and decadent lifestyle , yet are being pressured more and more through the media and "special agenda laws" to hold their tongues and "get used to it".......­..

Trust me, there are BILLIONS of us who will NEVER "get used to" this rancid way of life.

[signifyingnothing]

I tell you what: the rest of the world will quit with their "deviant and decadent" lifestyles the minute you learn the proper usage of semicolons and quotation marks.

[MalloMel]

It's people like you that make this the "carnival of the absurd". If you would just shut your mouth and go away, they could stand a chance at being happy, productive human beings. Who are you to judge another. I thought that was God's domain. I'm sure that you have enough skeletons in your closet and you are hiding behind your condemnation of another human being. Shame on you.

[LeoMarvin]

I want to agree with you, and I would if this were a private matter. But we only know about it because these people sought publicity. That doesn't mean it wouldn't be nice if everyone was compassionate and kind, but when you find out the planet where that's happening, let me know and I'll be on the first spaceship out. The sad truth is they invited attention, which inevitably leads to comment, and a lot of it will be mean. That's not exactly putting the kid's mental health above all else.

[chasgoose]

I am totally fine with the transgendered FTM married to the straight woman and theoretically I don't have any problem with this (although unless his wife can't/didn't want to conceive it's kind of a pushy self-centered decision.) But, if he has been taking enough testosterone to transform his clitoris into the equivalent of a small penis, how is that going to effect the development of his child? Hormones are a strange, poorly understood thing that can have serious effects on a developing fetus. I understand that its his decision to do this, but since no one really knows what is going to happen with the baby until its born he is playing with fire and could have to deal with some serious ramifications of this decision.

[sww]

He stopped taking male hormones 2 yrs prior to becoming pregnant. His hormone levels were that of a woman's when conceived. The pregnancy is healthy per the obstetrician.

[TLV]

He went off the testosterone for two years before getting pregnant.

[brooklyncitizen]

What I don't get is the sexual prefernce of the woman that dates a transgendered "man"....a­re they gay? and if not , why not go out with a man that is ehrmmm...n­aturally a man?why go out with a man that was a woman? and if the woman is gay why not go out with a woman that is already a woman...mo­st confusing.

[signifyingnothing]

It's only confusing because if you refuse to accept complexity in people. When you try to fit everything into neat little categories, other people will confuse you. I can't speak for this woman, but I suspect that the term "gay"--especially as you seem to be using it here--doesn't apply. Maybe just think of her as a lady you saw on Oprah who is partnered with a pregnant transman, accept it, and then go on with your day. See? It's easy!

[brooklyncitizen]

nope . no refusal with "accepting complexity" it's a real question. she intentionally wanted to "become" a man....if the gender wasn't important why do it? the other woman chose a to be with a man who isnt really a man.....by virtue of being pregnant..­.it's a roleplay.

[Changeling]

Can we stop acting like this is THAT huge a deal.

Look, gender issues are no problem. I completely see how the brain might wire differently than the body in terms of gender, so I have no problem with his choice, referring to him, or even thinking of him as male on most things.

But the fact of the matter is he was born female and he still clearly has his internal female characteristics intact. So, when all is said and done, a WOMAN got pregnant. Happens every day. So?

Sure, the circumstances are odd, but I don't see what warrants this level of media salivation.

[farseer]

You're right, a woman really is who got pregnant. In that sense, it's not a big deal.

I'm wondering about this: (a) before this woman changed into a man, were he and his "wife" a lesbian couple? (b) do they now consider themselves a "normal" heterosexual couple? (I personally think they are two women, regardless of what surgeries have been done.)

[thehawke]

as a transman with a female partner, we do not consider ourselve a "normal" heterosexual couple (whatever THAT means).

I personally suggest doing some more research into what transsexuals deal with before dismissing them as "really a woman"

[JShankel]

In my experience, only people who don't understand themselves worry whether other people consider themselves to be a "normal" this or a "normal" that.

These are two people in love having a child. They happen to have some nonstandard bioplumbing.

Must they fit into some narrow collection of categories that you've decided are the end-all and be-all?

[cplKlyde]

This is a goddamn freak show.

[signifyingnothing]

Just calm down.

[cheesewiz]

Amen. And they want the spotlight on themselves or why go on Oprah? I can't tell who is who. Now, after the baby, back on T? To be called mom, dad, auntie, what?

[thehawke]

the family will be raised with a mother and a father. I thought thats what conservoturds always screamed about. WTF does it matter to you if the guy restarts T after he is done with carrying his child to term?

And GOD FORBID anyone EVER challenges the "norms." I mean, what about that uppity black guy in the 1860's? Or those uppity women in the early 1900's? They presented their cases to society and society changed to include them. Is it really so scary to consider doing this here? If so, I suggest lots of therapy for you.

[ZombieKiller]

The reporting of this has been kind of ridiculous, because every news outlet has had some kind of "Pregnant Man to Give Birth!" headline that totally misleads people. The first article about this that I read, they didn't even mention that he is transgendered until the third page. They wrote the whole thing as if a man had somehow been impregnated by scientists.

[thehawke]

People who are transsexuals are people who use medical intervention to make their body match up with their internal view of their gender. This process is governed by the Benjamin Standards of Care. I don't particularly care for the "disease" aspect or some of the semantics but it lays out a good roadmap for the transsexual.

Many female to male transsexuals do not go thru surgery because of the expense (upwards of $50k - $150k) or because they do not feel it is necessary to live their lives successfully as men. Not to mention genital reassignment surgery for FTMs is still rather primitive. Testosterone therapy is rather cheap, comparatively.

Some doctors do suggest a hysterectomy because of the possibility of polycystic ovarian syndrome, (which can lead to cancer). Some docs believe this syndrome can be caused by the effects of testosterone upon female genitalia.

It should be noted that insurance WILL NOT PAY for a hysterectomy if they find out the person is a transsexual. Sure, a woman can get insurance to pay for it if she has cancer or fibroids or any other of a number of ailments. But transmen are left out in the cold, even if they get cancer. Insurance will consider it genital reassignment surgery instead of a simple hysterectomy. Google Robert Eads.

For those who care to do any personal research on this issue, I recommend http://ftmguide.org and http://ingersollcenter.org

[AJTheReverb]

I have respect for this man, because thats legally what he is, but I'm sorry I don't ever want to be pregnant. I have the utmost honor and respect for those who can and do. But I guess im just a wuss.

[thehawke]

LMAO! That's how I feel and how I felt when I was pregnant, for that matter.