DNC Donors Want Money Returned Because Of Florida

Hotline:

A Democratic source tells On Call that the Democratic National Committee is returning as much as $175K to donors dismayed with the party's handling of the Florida and Michigan primaries. My source says the exact amount will be reported in the April 20 FEC filing.

UPDATE: A DNC spokeswoman is confirming that the party is returning money, totaling $45K, to three donors. Details will indeed be reported in that April 20 filing. All three are FL donors upset with the ongoing debate about how and if the state's votes and delegates will be counted.

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Comments

[valleygent]

These are the kind of Clinton supporters that represent what the National Democratic party must shed like an old snakeskin. Go ahead and stop contributing, and please don't vote for Obama in November, the party doesn't need these types in the tent. Go vote for McCain in November. Same goes for all the voters who support Hillary Clinton in Michigan and Florida. If these people can support the Clinton's royal desire to steal pledged delegates in primary elections that were unauthorized by the DNC, and in two states that Obama did not even campaign in because he was following the rules, and in Michigan he was not even named on the ballot, then these people are right wing facists. Let them go to the other party, let them go somewhere, but please just let them go. And let me add that Hillary can go along with them.

Clinton/Lieberman 2012: Republicans you can trust on day one.

[PeopleFirst]

Get over it already!!!! They ALL agreed. Period. THE END!!!! She shouldn't have agreed IN THE FIRST PLACE!!! She was suppose to fight the fight BEFORE not now!



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq8aopATYyw&feature=email

[meltingpot101]

All the candidates agreed to the DNC rules, now that the candidates still standing can't agree on how this mess should be resolved it's the fault of Obama. Interesting take on the totality of events.

How about the fact that Hillary is encouraging the superdelegates to overturn the will of the peopl(the popular vote) and endorse her. To disenfranchise the nation is OK with them....

If Hillary doesn't win the Clintons and their supporters will cry foul no matter what.
Who cares if Obama has had more votes than any Democratic primary candidate ever
Or that he has raised more money, from "The People," by the way than any other democratic primary candidate ever. More states , more delegates, that according to the Clintons arn't pledged, who cares about that??

[PingMama]

If the DNC wants that money back, us Obama supporters can give $175K in one hour.

Don't worry Dean, the fundraising machine of Obama will fill the coffers.

You also have Republican Charlie Crist and Hillary's advisor Harold Ickes to thank for the Florida mess. (Or Wolfson, I can't remember)

She didn't care before, but she does now?

[Doofritz]

I live in Florida and have refused to donate to the DNC from the moment it declared that our votes wouldn't count. Each request by email or postal service is returned with a note explaining that I will no longer support the DNC because of their punishment of Florida. I began this when there was still a full slate of candidates (I actually voted for Chris Dodd), and am not protesting because any candidate might or might not be affected. I fail to understand why New Hampshire and Iowa continue to be given special treatment and disagree with the entire manner in which state primaries or caucuses are scheduled. I, for one, have resented for years that decisions as to which candidate will represent the party in presidential races has been already determined by the time Florida has had a chance to vote. When I began my protest this year, I had no idea the race would still be close at this late date. Having said all that, I don't think the results of our primary should be counted this year. Not because we broke unfair rules, but because candidates did not campaign here and voters did not have an opportunity to get to know them before casting their "beauty pageant" votes. I don't think the results reflect what would have happened if all candidates had come to Florida and talked to us.

[majseventh]

This whole mess should have never happened. It is not the voters fault but the leaders of the states and the DNC. I think that all votes should be counted or we are not a democracy. Any Obama supporter not saying votes should count are not true democrats.
This race will not be legit if they are not counted. Whichever way it goes.

[hank48188]

When the DNC pays for a caucus they can make all the rules, when States like Michigan and Florida PAY FOR a Primary they should make ALL THE RULES. The DNC and the RNC should be thankful for the States holding a REAL ELECTION for THEM, at TAXPAYER EXPENSE. Without the generosity of the States they would have to pay for running those phony caucuses like Wyoming, they have 60,000 REGISTERED DEMS, but only 8,900 went to the caucus.

[TekTami78]

You're right...the whole mess should have never happened, but FL and MI chose to move up their primary dates against DNC rules anyway. It happened, so now it must be dealt with.

No one is saything that the people's votes aren't important. I take that back...Hillary is saying that the people's votes shouldn't count when she's trying to poach pleadged delegates from Obama - delegates that were chosen by the votes of the people.

It's unfortunate that the voters are in this position, but even democracies have rules. And democracies are built under the concept of 'the good of the many' not 'the good of ALL'. Not an opinion, just a hard fact of life.

[whizkid]

My goodess.
There's no end to the lackjawed lamebrained will for party suicide Obama supporters won't exxhibit.
Take your money and your still uncounted vote and shove it up your fundament if your not for boyfriend.

[monique]

Gee, all the angry comments! How surprising!

Would you not be angry if your state was not allowed to matter? Your vote not allowed to count?!

[GeoLee]

Sure hope we don't have a 2000 repeat with the election hinging on Florida again because all of you might not like the end result.

[hank48188]

If Obama gets the nomination he will will lose Michigan, Florida, Ohio and Penn. and john mcCain will win

[McHenry]

One of the strongest arguments supporters of Obama gave for his candidacy during the beginning of the contest for the nomination was Obama was superior to Clinton because she was a divisive and polarizing figure. Now thirteen months into the campaign this has proven to be true. At least the part about Hillary. Every day there is some drama with either Hillary, Bill or her campaign. As much as she may want to focus on the issues they are no match for the Clinton daily soap opera. Just in the last 24 hours we have the Hillary versus Bill Richardson who said Obama couldn't win controversy; clearly Hillary lied again. Hillary's campaign guru Mark Penn, moonlighting on Hillary's time after being paid $10.5M by her campaign. Accepting payment to lobby for legislation benefiting a foreign government which Hillary opposes! And of course the weekly now daily drama of Bill. This time concerning what Bill does for investment banker Ron Burkle on behalf of foreign governments like Saudi Arabia and Dubai; just like the Bushes! If that's not enought we have the Hillary Super Donors attacking Howard Dean and the DNC over the Florida and Michigan situation and the constant use of race by Hillary delegates to further divide the electorate. If Hillary and Bubba can create this much divisiveness
within the Democratic Party thus far will there be anything left of it by the convention? Send the Clintons home. The country can no longer afford them.

[huffhuffpass]

Now maybe those donors can shut the F up! Ask their state politicians why they allowed to move up their primary election which stated would result in a penalty!

[MrDeadeye2U]

Take your money and get on down the road. Whatever you thought you were buying isn't for sale any more. The people have bought the party back.

[keriheb]

The thing is that they don't even need the money back. They have the money to burn. They used the money to whip up on Obama and the DNC. Now that they have their money back what are they going to do. Obviously the money wasn't donated to the Democratic Party or they would not have wanted their money back. The money was put up to pay for an agenda they wanted promoted. The Democratic Party is now more democratic than it has ever been in the past because it is the little man/woman who is financing the party. It is an interesting turn of events. Who would have "thunk" it?

The party needs to be rebuilt. NO one is talking about it but the party was gutted under Clinton. Sure he had the presidency but he allowed the party to be gutted by the Republicans attacking him over his indiscretions. Now the Clintons want a rerun, but can the country afford it? Can the Democratic Party afford it? Is anyone even asking these questions? Hillary is too comfortable with indiscretions to be good for either.

[hank48188]

They could use the money to start a 527 group and start showing more clips of Rev. Wright blaming 9/11 on the victims and shouting "God Damn America".

[segsig]

All the candidates AGREED that Florida and Michigan weren't going to seat delegates. They ALL agreed to not campaign, etc. All this after-the-fact crap has to stop.

[SkylarG]

Thats when it didn't matter... now those delegates could change the outcome. is it really fair to ignore two states in a democracy? even if its representative shouldn't those votes count?

[roncraw]

::Maybe they got wind of the fact that Obama broke the rules and ran ads here on MSNBC & CNN. I don't think its a coincidence they stopped on the day we voted.

[artsandminds]

give me a break, like Clinton would not have screamed that if it were true, which I am sure it is not.

[patriotscholar]

Obama had national ads with no control over the market. But then, I suppose those those "fund raisers" where HRC gave speeches aren't considered campaigning. Even if she tells her supporters that she is not campaigning but that their votes will count. Funny, the Obama supporters were not told that. And her victory speech in Florida the night of the primary where she again said the same thing. Yeah, that's really equal.