Hillary Clinton Advocates "Poverty Czar"

MSNBC News   |  Andrea Mitchell   |   April 4, 2008 10:19 AM


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NBC News has learned that in her remarks today, Clinton will call for a cabinet-level "poverty czar," apparently similar to what the King family has been requesting.

Here's an excerpt from Clinton's expected remarks:
"When I say solutions, I mean finally addressing the scourge of poverty that continues to afflict so many of our families in this country. I mean appointing a cabinet level position that will be solely and fully devoted to ending poverty as we know it in America, a position that will focus the attention of our nation on this issue. That's the kind of solution I'm talking about, a solution for which Dr. King's son, Martin, has been such a passionate and effective advocate."

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I love how on the anniversary of MLK's murder, Hillary proposes the idea of a "poverty czar" and passes it off as her own. An idea by the way, first proposed by, you guessed it, MLK. I swear Hillary can't come up with an original idea or commercial.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:09 AM on 04/05/2008

This is nothing more than ANOTHER attempt by Hellery to copy Barack Obama. She has been a johnny come lately to almost every position which Obama was first on.

Barack Obama has had a plan for a cabinet level department on poverty since the beginning of his campaign. Even Edwards did not have such a thing, and certainly Hellery didn't. This position has been on Obama's website in his blueprint for change since day one of this campaign. Leave it to Hellery to co-opt from someone else and try to claim it as her own idea.

Anywho, back in December there was an extensive comparison of Obama, Hellery, and Edward's economic and poverty plans, and Obama got the highest marks with specific mention of his initiative to establish this cabinet level department on poverty. here is the link and an excerpt:

http://www.beyondchron.org/news/index.php?itemid=5190

Of the three Democratic frontrunners, Obama"s is the only site providing specific attention to urban poverty. A seven page document posted on the website entitled "Changing the Odds for Urban America," states that Obama would take "addressing urban America seriously" and would create a White House Office on Urban Policy. While not a blueprint, the document does address key urban issues including addressing the need for programs to "make jobs pay " and to expand efforts to provide childcare, public transit, housing and urban reinvestment.

Does this woman have even ONE decent original idea? sheesh!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:14 AM on 04/05/2008

The embodiment of hypocrisy. A poverty czar. How disgusting can she get? Taking all the donations from poor workers, while she is making millions a year. At least the disgusting Romney spent his own money.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:56 PM on 04/04/2008

So let me get this straight:

Bill earns $6 million for a book called "Giving" about how great charity is

Gives only $1 million charity

Pockets $5 million????!!!!

Now they're talking about a poverty czar????

LOL. I think Rev. Wright was right -- the Clintons are "riding us dirty" like he was "riding Monica".

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 09:52 PM on 04/04/2008

Big deal, this costs her nothing and potentially gets the Edwards endorsement which is no big deal, everyone assumes she's getting it.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:44 PM on 04/04/2008

YEAH . . .

And the Poverty Czar will be . . .

MARK PENN . . .

Hillary's number one, that's numero uno, top advisor . . . who, as I write . . .

IS WORKING FOR . . .

COLUMBIA . . .

LOBBYING CONGRESS . . . on behalf of Hillary, too . . .

for . . .

ANOTHER NAFTA . . .

Yeah. Poverty czar.

Healthcare, too - WHILE SHE RECEIVES MORE MONEY THAN ANY OTHER PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE FROM BIG PHARMACEUTICALS, BIG INSURANCE AND BIG MEDICINE!!!

YEAH.

I think we can trust her. Don't you?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:20 PM on 04/04/2008

You forgot Blackwater. Penn's firm represents them.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 12:32 AM on 04/05/2008

Do I smell bribe??? This is clearly an effort to put Edwards in her hip pocket and lay claim to his supporters.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 PM on 04/04/2008

This offer expires on May 6th when the polls close in North Carolina. Wink, wink John Edwards.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 06:08 PM on 04/04/2008

Hillary you claim to have so much experience yet, you"re always calling for a commission, czar or committee to study an issue.
Hillary, Hello!! These are problems that have been studied, and contemplated to the hilt.
Hillary, every think tank, college, university et. cet. has folks who do nothing but study, contemplate and pontificate on the types of issues Americans are facing.
Hillary, every week someone comes out with a book, position paper or proposal
Hillary, the more you talk the more folks realize that your purported experience isn"t all that you profess. If your experience were as you profess, why all of the calls for committees and czars? Don"t you have the answers?
Hillary, while you're at it, try acknowledging that your votes on banking/lending and corporation regulations have been for some of the most disastrous legislation passed in generations.
Hillary your votes have helped to create the mess in Iraq, as well as helped create the financial mess that Americans face.
Hillary, while your committees and czars will take months or longer putting together proposals Americans are dying in Iraq, having their homes foreclosed, losing their jobs, going bankrupt¦
Hillary, the time to act is now! Show some experience and come up with something substantive NOW.
America it"s 3:00am and Hillary"s on the phone and, she"s "¦talking loud and saying nothing¦" to paraphrase James Brown

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:59 PM on 04/04/2008

Ummm... "Poverty Czar" is an oxymoron. No really it is. The definintion of Czar is as follows:

1. an emperor or king.
2. (often initial capital letter) the former emperor of Russia.
3. an autocratic ruler or leader.
4. any person exercising great authority or power in a particular field

When is that last time we had a Czar that actually worked? Drug Czar. Education Czar. War Czar.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:24 PM on 04/04/2008

Sadly, the intelligence and observation captured in your statement is not shared by the rest of the gullible American public.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 01:50 AM on 04/05/2008

hey john edwards are you listening? she's talking to you.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:07 PM on 04/04/2008

I understand that some 70 school buses pull up to the Minneapolis downtown shelter every morning, and deliver homeless kids to schools throughout the city. If we didn't go any further, it seems obvious that we don't need a cabinet level czar. What we need, is a president to proclaim what s/he will do the first day in office, to end poverty. Once the plan is executed, there will be no need for a cabinet level czar.

I resent Clinton or any other candidate stomping on the overwhelming disaster that exists, in order to create campaign kudos.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:17 PM on 04/04/2008

Wow! Clinton proposes a wonderful new position dedicated to eradicate poverty and the Obamafans on this site find a way to criticize her! I didn't think it could be done, but you have all crossed a new line in your utter lowness. Let's see how you all react when Obama copies this plan and announces it next week (like he did with Clinton's economic plan, Iraq withdrawal, position on talking to Cuba, immigration, etc). He sure is lucky that she gets all the debate questions first!!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:07 PM on 04/04/2008

A lot of people will not recognize this as satire and perhaps think you are less intelligent than you might want.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:11 PM on 04/04/2008

(ROLLING MY EYES @ YOU SEF2121)

Get real...she is desperate and could care less about a drug czar. She wants to win and has made that known. She doesn't care who she tears down, what she destroys, or anybody but her own ambition. I use to like her, but now I don't.

I will say I respect her determination and will - I have a lot of fight in me too! But, the disturbing factor for me is that she has no limit to where she will go. Its like the person who wants money before success. She will go anywhere. Do anything.

I am offended when "any" politician, or person for that matter takes me as a fool.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 08:09 PM on 04/04/2008

I think this is a great idea! (I'm an Obama supporter.)

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:57 PM on 04/04/2008

I think this is a great idea too. Especially after reading about her income, there is no way she could problem solve how to help families living in poverty. I'm just concern will she followup on this great idea after the nomination. Maybe this is part of her strategic plan, doing and saying whatever it takes.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 05:15 PM on 04/04/2008

Hillary really anounced she want to create a new position where she can appoint another one of her cronies. Just like she did during the travelgate incident. Why can't people see how she is hiding behind her smoke screen.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:44 PM on 04/04/2008

Hillary needs to appoint Mark Penn as the Poverty Czar.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:17 PM on 04/04/2008

Picture republicans creating a poverty czar and appointing Rupert Murdoch, wouldn't that be a fixed and biased concept................

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:11 PM on 04/04/2008

Does anyone else find this offensive? I mean, hire some guy, pay him some obscene amount of money to oversee poverty. Meanwhile, the people who fall under the category of poverty are not receiving any monetary help.

Sorry, but to pay some guy big bucks to take a look at the poverty stricken - why not just put that money towards those people? That would certainly help them out!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:01 PM on 04/04/2008

Black American had a major problems for years. They did want welfare, they wanted training and job to go with the skills acquired.
They were forced to take welfare, then the public talked extremely bad about them.

Now we are all on welfare. Waiting for money from China for our stimulus packet. They have our middle class jobs and American is on welfare,

God help America, one of these We the People will become united not by title only. We the People of these United States. Stop electing official who divide and conquer us to vote against our on best interest as a people. 9_millions jobs gone.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:34 PM on 04/04/2008

yes i agree that we will need a poverty czar especially after the Clintons are done paying off foreign leaders for bankrolling their personal wealth, and Penn for pushing Colombia's gov't interests. Who needs poor Americans!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 04/04/2008

I agree with Webdeb... great comment!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:52 PM on 04/04/2008

Poverty Czar? What about a Working class Czar? Listen, I am a social worker working in a depressed area. I work with lots of poor people. Most of them have legitimate problems that keep them from working. Most of them live off of $600 or $700 a month and receive Medicaid most of the time and most are on some type of subsized housing. Although this does not sound like very much it is something. What about the working class? They don't make enough to live on but they make too much to receive any assistance. The dirt poor in this country, who don't have very much at all, have it better than the working class in this country in some cases. Most working class do not receive healthcare, or if they have it, they are paying some outragous premiums that eat up a good portion of their paycheck. What is wrong with this picture? People wonder why it so hard for people to get off assistance/welfare? Maybe because they will not have healthcare if they start working a minimum wage job at Walmart. Maybe because the cost of childcare would be as much as the paycheck they bring home. This is not rocket science. Poor people don't want to become "working class" because they may end up being worse off.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:49 PM on 04/04/2008

I understand your reasoning, but would you be willing to trade what you have and live the life of the dirt poor? I didn't think so!

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:03 PM on 04/04/2008

Might be a good idea. She should give herself a lot of practice by appointing a Truth Czar for her campaign though.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 04/04/2008

Perhaps ALL politicians would do well to utilize the workforce that is in place. We do not need a cabinete position to handle every aspect of this country. There are many career civil servants, that if allowed to pursue their jobs free of partisan b.s. could achieve the very things that the politicians rail about. Why waste more money creating more bureaucracy when there are those more than qualified to handle the problems?

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 PM on 04/04/2008

You are correct in what you're saying, but that's not the game which is being played. Perception is what matters not substance.

Do you think Bush would have had people cheering the invasion of Iraq if it had not been cloaked as "defending America"? How much support do you think he would have had for, "I'm going to roll the dice, unleash an untold amount of carnage and spending while hoping all hell doesn't break loose"?

It's not what you're actually doing, it's what you convince people you are doing that pays. Any beginning Political Science course teaches this as one of the basics. Go back to Plato, he said it. Machiavelli said it too. Twas ever thus. Perception trumps reality every time.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:55 PM on 04/04/2008

Hillary is calling for a 'poverty czar' on the anniversary of Dr. King's death, lining up with the wishes of Dr. King's son. Clever political move in attempt to undo some of the damage done. Reminds me of Felix the Cat....That cartoon character, who's theme song went: "Whenever he gets in a fix he reaches into his bag of tricks!"

Those in power in Washington are already in a position to address poverty and have been for decades. But, there is no profit in eliminating it. As long as people can be taken advantage of by wealthy business owners, bankers, lenders, employers, insurance companies and the like, poverty will remain. As long as those in power live in their hip pockets, things won't change. Hillary represents "old Washington ideals" so this is smoke and mirrors.

Today, if you are ill and can't work, you miss a credit card payment and your interest rate soars while your credit rating dives. You pay more for car insurance, higher interest rates on loans, will probably have trouble getting a job, health insurance, life insurance, etc. Access to credit information is available to anyone with statistics showing it impacts their profits. The impoverished are those who can least afford to pay more money for the same services. You can defer payment with no "penalty" if your credit score good. It isn't enough to live in poverty, one has to be penalized for it. There is no incentive to change that.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:26 PM on 04/04/2008

Hillary was on the board of WalMart, the originator of cradle to the grave minimum wage and 38 hour work weeks to avoid government mandated worker benefits.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:38 PM on 04/04/2008

i've yet to actually hear what this "change" is that obama will bring. or what "yes we can even means."
can someone explain?

hillary and obama actually have very similar positions so does that means he is also representing "old washington ideals?"

i care about who will get things done. who has concrete plans.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:30 PM on 04/04/2008

We don't need a worker bee in the White House. We need a leader.

What change? How about over 1.2 million Americans from the ground up donating to a campaign, feeling invested in their government, a lot of them for the first time ever. How about excited youth, who actually believe their voices may be heard, and that someone cares about them and their issues and their future instead of big business and selfish ambitions?

It isn't about the plan. Anyone can come up with a plan. New ideas are tossed out every day. It is about how plans will be executed. That makes all the difference in the world.

It is about involvement. It is about the government being of the people and for the people, not special interests. If you don't think that's change, then you haven't been paying attention.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:40 PM on 04/04/2008

Thank you and thank you more.

We the People need to become united not by title only. We can be very proud of the people of these UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. We pulled ourselves up out of this hole never again to be divided by any elected officials.

WebDeb, great coments, you inspire me.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 03:47 PM on 04/04/2008

thank you. but with all due respect that doesn't really tell me anything. yes we need a leader but we also need to make change not talk about it.

it is great that so many new voters and young people have gotten involved. but this is a business as well. adn work does need to be done.

how do you feel barack can get change through better than hillary? how does his record show you that he indeed can? i don't see it.

i think he is a very smart and talented man. with a HUGE future ahead of him. but i don't see any proof that he can do the job. maybe in 8 years i can.

clinton/obama -- 16 years of healing the nation.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 02:57 PM on 04/04/2008

A leader by definition is one who can guide, direct and has commanding authority or influence. Someone with the ability to gather together a force of individuals to implement plans and execute them.

Who would you propose is going to "make" change? Do you really think that Hillary is going to work like a lone ranger in the White House? Working on health care, economic issues, the Iraq war, the foreclosure problem, etc. single handedly? Of course not. Neither will Obama.

In order to bring change about, you must be able to bring people together. His ability to inspire should not be taken lightly. I feel Barack Obama can better implement change because he is not divisive. Everything about Hillary Clinton points to divisiveness, and her scolding and accusing tones, her willingness to adjust the rules according to her needs, as well as the times she has "mis-spoken" does nothing to create a cohesive or unifying environment where change can actually take place.

Have you ever had a boss who made you feel unappreciated and unimportant? A teacher who wouldn't hear your side of the story? Did you feel inspired to give 110% to those people? Of course not. That is the kind of leader Hillary is showing us she will be. No thanks. I don't think she can pull people together.

Barack's record shows us that pulling people together has been his life's work. It is that simple.

favoriteFavorite Flag as abusive Posted 04:26 PM on 04/04/2008