Nearly 200 Removed From Texas Religious Compound

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April 5, 2008 10:22 PM EST | AP

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Officials escort two buses Friday April 4, 2008 from the retreat built by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, located near El Dorado, Texas. Child welfare officials and state troopers removed at least one busload of children from the secretive West Texas religious retreat built by polygamist leader Warren Jeffs following a complaint to state authorities. (AP Photo/Harry Cabluck)

ELDORADO, Texas — Sect leaders at a polygamist compound in West Texas refused Saturday to let authorities search a temple for a teenage girl whose report of abuse led to the raid, and authorities said they were preparing "for the worst."

If no agreement is reached with sect leaders, authorities will forcibly remove the sect's followers "as peaceably as possible," Allison Palmer, a prosecutor in Tom Green County, told the San Angelo Standard-Times.

Medical workers are being sent "in case this were to a go in a way that no one wants," Palmer said. Law enforcers are "preparing for the worst," she said.

"Within the religion that we have encountered, their place of worship is very special to them," Palmer said. "It appears to be of great concern to them if a person from outside their congregation even attempts to step inside their place of worship."

A search warrant authorized troopers to enter the retreat, run by the Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. They are looking for evidence of a marriage between the girl and a 50-year-old man.

Court documents the girl had a baby eight months ago, when she was 15.

State welfare officials on Friday removed 52 girls from the compound. Marleigh Meisner, a spokeswoman for Child Protective Services, said another 131 residents were removed overnight. By Saturday afternoon, 137 children and 46 women were being housed and interviewed at local community centers.

"They seem to be doing fine," Meisner told The Associated Press. Investigators remained inside the compound looking for additional children, she said.

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The whereabouts of the 16-year-old mother who sparked the investigation are unknown, Meisner said. State troopers who raided the religious retreat were looking for the girl, her baby girl and 50-year-old Dale Barlow.

Under Texas law, girls younger than 16 cannot marry, even with parental approval.

Officials in Texas declined to comment Saturday on whether they had found Barlow, citing a gag order, but the man's probation officer told The Salt Lake Tribune that he was in Arizona.

"He said the authorities had called him (in Colorado City, Ariz.) and some girl had accused him of assaulting her and he didn't even know who she was," said Bill Loader, a probation officer in Arizona.

Barlow was sentenced to jail time last year after pleading no contest to conspiracy to commit sexual conduct with a minor. He was also ordered to register as a sex offender for three years while he is on probation.

His lawyer in that case, Bruce Griffen, said he had not spoken to Barlow in a year.

The search warrant instructed officers to look for marriage records or other evidence linking her to the man and the baby. The warrant authorized the seizure of computer drives, CDs, DVDs or photos.

Those inside the retreat did not respond to requests for comment.

The Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints broke away from the Mormon church after the latter disavowed polygamy more than a century ago.

The compound sits down a narrow paved road and behind a hill that shields it almost entirely from view in town. Only the 80-foot-high, gleaming white temple can be seen on the horizon. Authorities blocked access to the gate, keeping onlookers miles away.

The 1,700-acre property had been an exotic game ranch. It is surrounded by dusty, wind-swept land where sheep are raised and mohair produced.

Eldorado (pronounced el-dor-AY'-do) is a two-stoplight town of fewer than 2,000 people and located nearly 200 miles northwest of San Antonio. It consists of a cluster of government buildings, a couple churches and a few blocks of houses.

State officials said they did not know how many people lived at the retreat, although local officials estimated about 150 two years ago.

The FLDS has been led by Warren Jeffs since his father died in 2002. In November, Jeffs was sentenced to two consecutive sentences of five years to life in prison in Utah for being an accomplice to the rape of a 14-year-old girl who wed her cousin in an arranged marriage in 2001.

In Arizona, Jeffs is charged as an accomplice with four counts each of incest and sexual conduct with a minor stemming from two arranged marriages between teenage girls and their older male relatives. He is jailed in Kingman, Ariz., awaiting trial.

ELDORADO, Texas — Sect leaders at a polygamist compound in West Texas refused Saturday to let authorities search a temple for a teenage girl whose report of abuse led to the raid, and authoritie...
ELDORADO, Texas — Sect leaders at a polygamist compound in West Texas refused Saturday to let authorities search a temple for a teenage girl whose report of abuse led to the raid, and authoritie...
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It seems as though Texas wants to actually do something about polygamy and religious-based child abuse. Why hasn't John McCaine done anything about Colorado City? Could it be that Mormons have too much power in his state? Perhaps he doesn't want to stir up that hornets nest! Maybe this should become part of his legacy?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:26 AM on 04/07/2008
- chirps I'm a Fan of chirps 23 fans permalink

Dear God, please save us from religious nutcases. Thank you.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:40 PM on 04/06/2008
- LeonBNJ I'm a Fan of LeonBNJ 24 fans permalink

Let us hope this doesn't turn into another Waco/David Koresh disaster. Just wait them out, limit their access to the outside world so it is constantly monitored, tap their phone lines and cell phone use, but don't go in with violence. It will only kill too many and give excuses to domestic terror.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:04 AM on 04/06/2008
- SisterAnn I'm a Fan of SisterAnn 5 fans permalink

A lot of propaganda seems to be out there on this community.` Everyone seems so ready to pile on.

What about all the judges that have performed marriages for14 year olds? My sister was married at 14 to a 21 year old. We considered it a blessing because she was pregnant. Now the new thinking has me wondering if I shouldn't have the judge arrested?

The Flds are decent, hardworking people. They are self supporting and don't take welfare. There is something about a large group that is religious that bugs this government.

I guess the constitution doesn't matter, when it is ignored, if you dislike the group?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:19 AM on 04/06/2008
- Colmore I'm a Fan of Colmore 45 fans permalink

They DO take welfare. It was on TV, a special. They interviewed a man married to 3 sisters. They were on WELFARE. If they had to be self supporting, they would not have so many children.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:00 AM on 04/06/2008
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16 year old girls marrying 50 year old men? Are you serious or just an imbecile?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:14 AM on 04/06/2008
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The Flds are decent, hardworking people. They are self supporting and don't take welfare.
Your kidding me, right? Besides their kooky beliefs, which they are entitled to, they are masters of welfare fraud. Colorado City and places like that could only exist on federal largesse. Pretty Ironic. Still, I'd be willing to let that slide. It's the forced pedophilia with young girls and the mind numbing coercion and fear instilled into the 'men'.that I have a problem with.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:39 AM on 04/06/2008

Let's see, what is statutory rape? No the judge shouldn't have been arrested but the 21 year old who impregnated a fourteen year old sure should have been.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:45 AM on 04/06/2008
- jfor I'm a Fan of jfor 17 fans permalink

Right rape, underage marriage, polygamy and possible kidnapping are all OK when its done for Jesus.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:40 AM on 04/06/2008
- Nyland8 I'm a Fan of Nyland8 90 fans permalink
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It's interesting that when one reads the definition of the word *cult*, it applies to virtually any religion ...

... with the possible exception of Buddhism.

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    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:17 AM on 04/06/2008
- Amalek I'm a Fan of Amalek 137 fans permalink
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Now there has to be a political angle to this.

Is it that they held off dealing with this situation until Romney had lost the nomination?

or

They did it now to stop his being selected as McCain's running mate?

or

They did it now to get it out of the way to make room for McCain to select Romney?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:10 AM on 04/06/2008
- ylpatriot I'm a Fan of ylpatriot 7 fans permalink

we ask about romney ? while in the home state of the so-called president .... it even exists ????? and has for a very very long time ???? come now !!!!!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 10:37 AM on 04/06/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

Let's not refer to this as "religious". It's not. It's criminal, it's abusive, it's a cult. Just because they call themselves "religious" doesn't make it so. Use some judgment rather than just repeating their drivel.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:39 AM on 04/06/2008
- pitman I'm a Fan of pitman 4 fans permalink
    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 06:41 AM on 04/06/2008
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It's criminal, it's abusive, and unfortuneately, it's also their religion. In the 1880s before Utah became a state, Brigham Young, the chuch's revered second prophet (after founder Joe Smith) sent fundamentalist groups to the hinterlands; Mexico, western Utah and Arizona and Canada. He instructed them to NEVER give up polygamy, "The Principle". He told them that someday soon the LDS would sell out The Principle in order to become a state. He warned them that they would be excommunicated from the mainline church and become pariahs. He also told them that the LDS would be the apostates. The Fundies would become the ONE TRUE CHURCH, LED BY ONE, MIGHTY AND STRONG.

That and a spiritual tradition of personal revelation, and you get a church with 200 heretical branches.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:47 AM on 04/06/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

All you're doing is repeating their drivel. If there was a car in front of us and I called it a rose, you (hopefully) wouldn't be fooled. You would know that it was a car and wouldn't be taken in by my calling it a rose. Likewise, just because some cult refers to their sick, abusive and criminal behaviors as religious doesn't make it so. We really need people in society to be able to see through this nonsense. Otherwise more and more children are at risk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:39 PM on 04/06/2008
- digoweli I'm a Fan of digoweli 4 fans permalink

A state more sensitive to the way things look in the world would not have used Baptist buses to invade another religion's compound. Sometimes I don't think those folks sniffing all of those oil fumes have their brains tied down. They are cut from the same cloth as those religionists who banned Native American Religion in 1883 and made it a crime for a traditional Native Priest to pray in public up until the U.S. Congress passed a special "Freedom of Religion law for American Indians" in 1978. So much for the Constitution. Digoweli

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:18 AM on 04/06/2008
- vinny I'm a Fan of vinny 103 fans permalink
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jesus herbert christ on a stick, a sect of pedaphiles doesnt qualify as a religion...

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 02:33 AM on 04/06/2008
- Gary47 I'm a Fan of Gary47 15 fans permalink

Absolutely!

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:00 AM on 04/06/2008
- daingel I'm a Fan of daingel 2 fans permalink

Yes, but it sure as hell made me a recovering Roman Catholic.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 03:48 AM on 04/06/2008
- digoweli I'm a Fan of digoweli 4 fans permalink

Vinny, I think you ought to get out more. Not to defend the breaking of a nation's laws but it is not so long ago that this nation had to backtrack in at least three instances that I personally know of where the whole nation was wrong about what they thought they observed. This can and will be settled in court. I was merely referring to the "appearance" of having a rival church's buses used to take the children away. The image was insensitive at best and stupid at worst. That's just my opinion. Digoweli

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:49 AM on 04/06/2008
- waynesmyer I'm a Fan of waynesmyer 10 fans permalink

Gee! Golly! Whiz! I think it is time to call Mitt Romney in to help! Maybe he can help! After all, it is his church , Up The GOP (Grand Old Perverts? uh! Grand Old Pedophiles?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:13 AM on 04/06/2008

Cultism ... herdism. Same thing. We condemn these fools--and we should--but how many of you out there mindlessly subscribe to your own herds? Your own cults? If you were honest--and you aren't--you'd back off a little from the wretching. These people are no worse than you; they are, in many ways, just the same. They just drink a different Kool-Aid.

Listening, Republicans?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 01:04 AM on 04/06/2008
- Jonahson I'm a Fan of Jonahson 6 fans permalink

These despicable people are scums the of he earth. The only way to satisfy their animal lust is to make use of religion to attract innocent people, brainwash and then take advantage of them. This is certainly not the first time happening here.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 12:29 AM on 04/06/2008
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Stop with the name calling. Mormons are fascinating. I think the fundy leaders are VERY scummy. The rank and file are mostly good people, they're just acting the way they were brought up.
They don't really recruit, they just breed their own.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:52 AM on 04/06/2008
- zephyrus I'm a Fan of zephyrus 16 fans permalink

Cont'd...

These scoundrels have taken the "chosen" and moved them out to El Dorado and have built a new community from nothing. We "polygs" can build things. Uneducated and unwashed. Bleeding the Beast and then turning around and working for free....group insanity. All was built from the free labor given to "the work." Look upon the power of belief, how it controls and manipulates the minds of these men and women.

http://www.childbrides.org/photos.html

To them, this move to El Dorado and any "bleeding of the beast" was justified. The BEAST took their prophet and made him as much a martyr as Joseph Smith. They are waiting for Christ (that temple faces East, just like the other garish temples of "mainstream" Mormonism)....they are waiting for the end of the world. For years, many said this would be Waco II. I laughed loudly at that sentiment. If you knew most of these people, you'd know they wouldn't even say the word SHIT when they had a mouth full of the stuff. They are compliant and docile, much like US citizens watching Iraq and our masochistic POTUS.

The First Baptist buses taking the women and children away are a nice touch too....those Baptists can always tell who needs savin'.....you think they threw up the "GONE BAPTIZING" sign (like ol' Ned Flanders) before they made their charity run out to the compound to save these lost souls?

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:11 PM on 04/05/2008
- zephyrus I'm a Fan of zephyrus 16 fans permalink

Heaven forfend that anyone actually speak about this topic with any understanding or practical knowledge. This is a group that THROWS AWAY it's young men for watching R-rated movies and kissing girls (as 15-year old boys are wont to do). Truthfully, these young men (boys, really) compete for the affection of the young girls. So, out they go....run on over to Google maps and key in Hildale, Utah. When you were 15-years old, imagine that someone took you from a town of (generously estimating) 5,000 and dropped you off in St. George, Utah and said, "Do not ever come back ....you're on your own." All you had known was "the profit" and "the work." Now you compete with illegal immigrants to survive. If you're lucky, you might know others like you and can crash for a few weeks in what ever roach-infested place they might have to share with you. Maybe you pick up a few vices you'd never known in ignorant seclusion. Would you survive?

http://lefarkins.blogspot.com/2005/06/lost-boys-of-southern-utah.html

Among this group, welfare fraud is called "bleeding the beast." This out-right theft of your tax revenues is not only acceptable, but encouraged by this bunch. When Utah took receivership of the UEP Trust (a financial arm of this group used to control FLDS members), it was conservatively estimated to be worth in excess of $100 million dollars.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:10 PM on 04/05/2008
- zephyrus I'm a Fan of zephyrus 16 fans permalink

Errrr....PROPHET, not PROFIT....being raised as a Mormon, I get the two confused easily.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:24 PM on 04/05/2008
- aristippe I'm a Fan of aristippe 13 fans permalink

they could always start their own hardware store

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 11:34 PM on 04/05/2008
- newshawk14 I'm a Fan of newshawk14 8 fans permalink

I'm simply happy to see another cult brought low. As a society I think we have to maintain constant
vigilance against cults, and the ways that they exploit their members, I'm all for the separation of
church and state, but sometimes things go beyond the pale, and should not be tolerated. I'd like
to see the felons serving very hard time.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 09:01 PM on 04/05/2008
- tbone99 I'm a Fan of tbone99 107 fans permalink
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i think it has to do more with patriarchy than geology.LOl.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 08:06 PM on 04/05/2008
- helonias I'm a Fan of helonias 266 fans permalink
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To bad they are not members of the one true religion, the northern, deformed, 3rd day visigoths of christ the geologist.

We don't diddle the kinderfolk.

    Favorite    Flag as abusive Posted 07:52 PM on 04/05/2008
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