Hillary Clinton Asks Obama Pledged Delegates In North Dakota To Switch

Political Radar:

Sen. Hillary Clinton made a blunt appeal to North Dakota delegates to switch their support to her, despite the fact that Sen. Barack Obama handily defeated her in the state's caucus in February.

In an indication of how tense the battle has become for each Democratic delegate, Obama abandoned the campaign trail in Pennsylvania and scooted to North Dakota for the state party's annual dinner last night, despite the fact that he's already won 14 of the state's 21 delegates as well as six of the state's seven superdelegates.

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Comments

[Plowboy]

For one who has such a strong stress on loyalty (to herself) that she consistently passed over better qualified help to choose her campaign leadership, she places very value on (other directed) loyalty!

[ScandalousCandice]

I am just sitting back relaxing and watching her whole campaign burn down at this point. everything she does now is comical. The blatant lies, the acts of total desperation like this move here. It's fun. She hasn't got a shot in hell.

Whenever someone gets this mad they get desperate. All we can do now is point and laugh.

[MiddleRoad1]

But it will stop being amusing once it starts harming the real nominee's chances. If the supers don't put a stop to this soon, they will essentially have lost the Nov election for the democrats

[Aleka]

I think it already has. Her outright lies to MI and FL especially where she directly blames him while stoking them to feel they've been "disenfranchised" shows in the polls in FL. He hasnt campaigned there but he starts in the hole b/c of how many people beleive the lie that he blocked a revote. IMO some people will always think that so I beleive that Clinton in effect threw FL to McCain.

[rzan]

I woud like to see her try this in the state of Washington. She would probably lose even more voters than she already has lost since the initial caucus in this state.

[Vern58]

More slimeball tactics.
HRC will do as well as a bald tire- no traction.
She is turning the public off with this sort of machination.

[whizkid]

I suggest the Obama supporters here take a few poltical science classes at a local college.
Or go back to get your GED.
You seem to have missed Civics.

[JohnnySorrow]

Perhaps you need to take some ethics classes.

[copesthetics]

she's trying to poach his delegates, you schmuck. seems your candidate missed out on ethics. and, i'll gladly compare résumés with you any day. i'm quite prepared to pit my education against yours, JENIUS. wiz kid, indeed.

[IslandGyal]

whizkid,
Like your delusional mentor, you are laughable. It's known that the Obama demographic is the "latte sipping, educated, liberal" type, so try again.

[MichaelTenery]

The real problem is Hillary and some of her supporters seem to have missed ethics.

[joja]

whiz --

Remind me -- which party do the Clintons belong to? The Repubs?

BTW, why don't you go take a whiz, or go play in traffic?

[HanSolomente]

Some people confuse running a long campaign with running a dirty campaign and Hillary has run a dirty campaign. I for one would have no problem with Hillary and Obama competing until the convention if she didn't feel the need to fight dirty within her own party, but she did.

You can say "if Obama can't deal with Hillary than how will he deal with the Republicans?" The answer is not only is he is dealing with her, he is winning, but he shouldn't have to be attacked using Rovian tactics coming from within his own Party and even from a former President. It is simply not right. Don't get me wrong, some of Obama supporters conduct is out of line too, but Hillary has done this personally. She is a Presidential candidate not a supporter and Bill is a former President of the United States. I expect more from them, and so should you. Hillary says she is a fighter and it's true, but what else can she do but fight? What we really need is a leader... What we need is a President. Rocky was a great boxer, but I don't think he would have made the best Commander in Chief. But maybe that's just me.

[fixbone]

amen

[MichaelTenery]

That is Hillary though, the Pugnacity of Nope.

I keep thinking of "On The Waterfront" whenever she brings up these boxing metaphors. "I could have been a contender nor a bum, which is what I am. A bum."

I wasn't alive when it first came out but it sure fits.

[Whinger]

Ask the pledged voters to switch too Hillary.

Just ask!

[nick1936]

None of these delegates are pledged they can vote for whom ever they want better learn the rules of the game before you go off half cocked

[MiddleRoad1]

Right, so its ok to disenfranchise the voters who sent them there, as Obama supporters? According to Hillary, only Hillary voters should not be disenfranchised, maybe?

[MichaelTenery]

She better learn the rules of reality, there is nothing but desperation here as delegates do not generally switch. They think this may help them, and tried it with Surrogates in Iowa, it failed. They lost one of their own delegates. And Obama gained all the Edwards delegates that switched as 6 stayed Edwards and the rest switched Obama.

She is playing with fire, and getting burnt.

[several]

Hillary keeps saying how she wants everyone's votes to count.

Now she is asking pledged delegates to ignore the will of the voters they represent and do her will instead.

The hypocrisy is truly astounding. If you see it for anything other than hypocrisy, you're so deep in denial that you're blinding yourself to the obvious.

[Abie56]

The hypocrisy is understandable if you accept she's a Bullshit Artist. You have license. In fact, such conduct is now expected of her.

Have you seen History of the World, Part 1? Remember the scene where Mel Brooks (Comicus) makes a claim for unemployment benefits?

Clerk: Occupation?
Comicus: Stand-up Philosopher
Clerk: What?
Comicus: Stand-up Philospher. I coalesce the vapors of human existence into a viable and meaningful comprehension.
Clerk: Oh, a Bullshit Artist!
Comicus: Hmmmmmm....
Clerk: Did you bullshit last week?
Comicus: No.
Did you try to bullshit last week?
Comicus: Yes.

And she bullshits daily, weekly, etc. There's a definite pattern here. An Oocasional misspoken word, misremembered story, can be forgiven or forgotten (with the passage of time), but she's demonstrated a proven ability to play with truth, her words ( misspoken or misremembered) like a stand-up philosopher, or Bullshit Artist.

Aren't her supporters ashamed? Embarrassed?

[Aleka]

Sadly, I begin to realize that they see nothing wrong with that behavior.

That is possibly the worst thing of all.

[whizkid]

sev
So Kerry and Kennedy should represent Clinton?

Their state does. The Obama hypocrisy knows no bounds.

[Abie56]

Gee whiz, Whizkid,

Kerry and Kennedy are Super Delegates, not pledged delegates. Pledged Delegates represent the wishes of voters, and Hills is asking them to disregard the vote, and act like Supers.

[c1ee]

Not withstanding the fact that several was talking about pledged delegates, while you are talking about superdelegates, i agree with your point. Kerry and Kennedy should vote for Clinton. Also superdelegates whose constituents they represent voted for Obama should vote for Obama also. In the end, Obama has won more pledged delegates, and hence he should be getting more of the super delegate count too. Or is that a tad too inconvenient for you?

[rzan]

We are talking about pledged delegates here, not superdelegates.

[IslandGyal]

whizkid,Well, she has all the super delegates from NY, when they vote how their congressional district voted, won't she lose some too, DUH!!!!

[Charmed]

hillary walked into the contest with over 200 superdelegates but that seems to escape the site of her supporters. They just keep going on and on about Kerry and Kennedy and then in the next breath it's the pledge delegates should vote for her because she is convinced that she is the only one qualified to be POTUS. Maybe hillary and her supporters should pick a side and stick with it.

[S1m0n]

There *is* no official popular vote count for the primary. Hillary is free to count whatever she likes and call it anything she pleases.

That won't change its fundamental meaning in this race: it has none.

[MichaelTenery]

Nor will it change the fact that at getting delegates she is an abysmal failure. Every convention so far 1 or more delegates gets awarded to Obama over Clinton. Usually because the final vote tally breaks in his favor or the final delegate breaks Obama's way. When she asks, like she did in Iowa she actually loses one of her delegates.

[ljsfolly]

My take on it is that Hillary and Bill both know if he can just show his face "before now" with Burkle he can get millions of dollars. If Hillary can win as they seem so desperate to have her do, just how much money can they make outta that deal? After all he pardoned a whole lot of people who have been their "friends and bundlers" for money this campaign. If Hillary loses then Bills speeches won't get top dollar and his face time for crooks goes down then what will they live on as retirement? A whole hell of a lot more money than most of us will see in a lifetime. They have given to charity, their own, and he does like to pal around with the older bush for now but other than having insulted the majority of the US citizens during the race has Bill done anything for anyone else? Oh yeah, photo op with Brad in NO. I just wish all of the clinton supporters would remember that the 90's were good because of the dot coms and not Bill. I wish they would remember he lied to us and wagged the finger at us like we were idiots and he was putting us in our place. I also wish they would for one time look at Hillary as if she was never the wife of Bill and just herself and what she did by herself not by proxy.

[Shocktheworld]

How did this strategy work out for her?

[patriotscholar]

Hillary talks about disenfranchising voters, yet she is trying to do just that. That is shameful. It shines a light on her that all can see.

[accountability]

Do you think his campaign is not doing the same thing?
Christ.
Grow the hell up and get over it.

I'd believe that you were genuinely outraged by the whole notion of political maneuvering if in fact you behaved like the little bright and shining hearted innocents and if you were not supporting someone who is a master of political gamesmanship.

[Aleka]

Oh right...the vague accusation based on nothing. *yawn*

[copesthetics]

interesting moniker for one who turns individual assumptions into unsubstantiated, baseless, and utterly moronic accusations free of any semblance of accountability. get a clue, please.

[jsinclair]

Actually,Obama's campaign is most definitely NOT doing the same thing.

He has never tried to "steal" pledged delegates from Hillary. He has never tried to disenfranchise voters by telling the people they chose to represent them at the convention (the pledged delegates), people elected BECAUSE they promised to vote for Hillary.....to ignore the will of the voters in their states and just vote for him instead anyway.

Talk about "disenfranchisement"! She is shameless.

[beright]

accountability, you're right: Obama is a gamesman, Hillary is engaging in downright dirty politics. Now live up to your own name and stop telling others to 'grow up.'

[SifSkade]

Do you think his campaign is not doing the same thing?
Christ.
Grow the hell up and get over it.
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This is an argument?

[soot]

Isn't this the same crap the HRC campaign denied it was doing when reporters raised rumors of it?

[GhostOfSchlesinger]

Yes.

Wolfson denied it. Penn denied it. Bill denied it. Hillary denied it.

And people say they'll say or do anything to win?

I say we should be fair.

They'll stop lying as soon as we turn over the keys to the Democratic Party and to the White House.

I mean really. They will.

They swear.

[kettletop]

Today was the second step in our caucus. Clinton and the Obama groups were alloted 5 minutes to give a speech on behalf of their candidate. The woman who spoke about Clinton was unprepared and befuddled. Her speech was 2 1/2minutes long and she answered questionsfor the remaining time. Everyone was respectful during her speech. Questions were respectful and appropriate., e.g. Hillary often talks about the middle class, but what about the poor? The obvious answer "She said she would appoint a Poverty Czar" screamed in my head, but this woman rambled on, clearly not on top of the news nor well versed in her candidate. Frankly it was a bit embarrassing.
The Obama representitive had a prepared speech. He is a man who first got involved in politics in the Kennedy campaign. He said he felt a similar inspiration from Barack Obama. The Cinton delegates began to shout and to boo. They barely let the man finish. They shouted and booed him three other times. The chairman of the caucus then went out and calmed people down and totally refocused attention away from the national and onto some interesting and important local issues.
One Clinton supporter got up and switced her vote to Obama,mad at her fellow delegates. Nothing changed in the allocaion of delegates to the next level.
Clinton is adding fuel to this fire. It is hurting our relationships in the democratic party. It makes me sad.

[TheRealMacDaddy]

"Cinton delegates began to shout and to boo"...looks like her supporters are beginning to mimic her behavior now.

[Charmed]

They are following in hillary's foot steps.....I have to say, because of Obama I have started to listen a lot better than I use to and try to understand were a person is coming from. I have stopped fighting back with the same rage that is directed towards me because in the end it gets nothing done. We all have to learn to listen and be more respectful and this is something that hillary supporters need to learn.

[Sabreen60]

I know that I cannot vote for McCain should Hillary win the nomination, but it's going to be really, really hard to vote her. What has happened to her integrity? Has she ever had any?

[pilotinfla]

Integrity? -- that does not compute. She is a Clinton.